AMD Shanghai/Deneb Review Thread

[Rammsteiner]

I want to see some gaming results for denab, compared to core i7

Although it would be interesting, why?

Core i7 wasnt even meant to be competitive that way. i7 can be included nonetheless, but rather if they at least have Agena, Kentsfield and Yorkfield included. i7 is seriously the last priority IMO

[JumpingJack]

Although it would be interesting, why?

Core i7 wasnt even meant to be competitive that way. i7 can be included nonetheless, but rather if they at least have Agena, Kentsfield and Yorkfield included. i7 is seriously the last priority IMO

The comparision is going to be made regardless, it is inevitable. I don't think he has to worry about whether i7 will show up in the reviews.

Agena, and Yorkfield will also no doubt show up ... review sites take one of two tacts ... they either compare top bins or they compare like price points ... it will be interesting if they take the time to generate any Yorkfield benchmarks with comparable price points that Deneb will show up with....

[villa1n]

Although it would be interesting, why?

Core i7 wasnt even meant to be competitive that way. i7 can be included nonetheless, but rather if they at least have Agena, Kentsfield and Yorkfield included. i7 is seriously the last priority IMO

For some of us, it is between an i7 and deneb? I don't see why you would exclude them from the results, even if for the most part they match yorkfields.... The more data the better

[Rammsteiner]

For some of us, it is between an i7 and deneb? I don't see why you would exclude them from the results, even if for the most part they match yorkfields.... The more data the better

No, what I said i7 is, at least for me though, the least interesting. What Im saying is that before they add i7 to the tests, they should at least include Kentsfield/Yorkfield. i7 is fine, but at least put those in it as well

Or am I saying weird things now?

[villa1n]

No, what I said i7 is, at least for me though, the least interesting. What Im saying is that before they add i7 to the tests, they should at least include Kentsfield/Yorkfield. i7 is fine, but at least put those in it as well

Or am I saying weird things now?

Yorkfield for sure, kentsfield is not too relevant anymore, bigger process, and all but EOL. But I think any sane review would match a pricepoint, and throw in top bins, to create contrast, of price and performance. A review without a yorkfield i agree wouldn't be as fully relevant as i would like it to be, but I can see the logic behind it as well.

[Motiv]

No, what I said i7 is, at least for me though, the least interesting. What Im saying is that before they add i7 to the tests, they should at least include Kentsfield/Yorkfield. i7 is fine, but at least put those in it as well

Or am I saying weird things now?

If the i7 is the best chip in the desktop environment, of course they should put it in a review.

Review sites should always put a Price per performance charts in, so people know what they are getting for their cash. The i7, will no doubt struggle at the moment in this regard.

[Rammsteiner]

Yorkfield for sure, kentsfield is not too relevant anymore, bigger process, and all but EOL. But I think any sane review would match a pricepoint, and throw in top bins, to create contrast, of price and performance. A review without a yorkfield i agree wouldn't be as fully relevant as i would like it to be, but I can see the logic behind it as well.

Yeah, Kentsfield is less important but might be interesting since they sell very cheap but shamefully didnt know they were EOL so in that case it's indeed quite questionable.

If the i7 is the best chip in the desktop environment, of course they should put it in a review.

Review sites should always put a Price per performance charts in, so people know what they are getting for their cash. The i7, will no doubt struggle at the moment in this regard.

This was basicly what I was aiming at as well. But mainly first Yorkfield, then i7. But i7 is a desktop platform so should be included as well. Also the price of i7 920 ain't too bad IMO, the CPU is thus far priced the same as pre-order Ph II 940, but the rest of the platform is priced higher, although then again it depends on what you get, whether you OC etc.

Anyway, lets not go the platform price comparison way again since it depends on a lot of factors actually

[maroon1]

I know most bencmark tested are application used for sever

But in media encoding and 3d rendering which are used by many normal users, the 2.7GHz Shanghai performed worse than 2.66GHz Xeon (look at the tech-report review)

[maroon1]

I want to see some gaming results for denab, compared to core i7

Why not compared to Yorkfield ?

I don't even think that deneb is going to be better than Yorkfield

[Motiv]

Why not compared to Yorkfield ?

I don't even think that deneb is going to be better than Yorkfield

better is relative.

Is the top bin deneb going to be 'better' than the top bin yorkfield. No.

So under your logic, we might as well not bother reviewing it.

What we care about here is, is it new and shiny? Is it relatively cheap for it's performance and if so, does it overclock?

It's all about price per performance, or to some price per watt.

The top performing CPU is great to know but most on this forum like to see those results, while buying a cheaper but better overclocking chip.

[Ghostbuster]

Phenom II 940 BE http://www.donanimhaber.com/AMD_Turk...lari-11898.htm



More here http://www.donanimhaber.com/DH_Ozel_..._de!-11889.htm

[spursindonesia]

Yeah, we all know that Nehalem is still king of the hill performance wise, but we just want to know whether Deneb can be the quadcore for the masses, replacing Q6600, quadcore champ for the poor OCer out there. If it's good enough, Yorkfield price will be adjusted, Nehalem might see adjustment too, everybody wins.

[Macadamia]

Idle 26 degrees? :O

AMD's yesterday during a Phenom ıı meeting we also have news on the way. The Company for promotion of the Phenom 940 ıı Black Edition işlemcili system and the for a short time pass the time of the opportunity to have conducted. In 3GHz working Phenom 940 ıı THREATENING processor in addition to the Foxconn 790GX chip setli A7DA-S coded anakartının and dual graphics işlemcili Radeon HD 4870 X2 graphics card system used mini tests verified.

Phenom ıı işlemcileriyle performance point more competitive and ambitious solutions sets the stage, THE AMD the same time power consumption and down the noted. 140 Watt TDP have to the level of the the 2.6GHz and the 'working Phenom 9950 model to the contrary 45nm production technology, the level 6MB memory 3 with and equip 3GHz in the Phenom of the 940 ıı THREATENING TDP of the level of 125 as a watt set.

New production technology with the speed aşırtma ambitious point that it is often voiced the AMD Phenom processors ıı quite to work on cool as it prepares. In 3GHz working four core processor temperature wait state HWM blackbox program is very 26 as. Dragon Also platform, Spider platform pitcher the least more quickly will be six also was also highlighted.

Note: processor work frequency to 3400MHz took OVERDRIVE the temperature in software is very 35.5 as evidence. Apparently according to current data high hours of the pace of Phenom processors ıı new production technology of the estimated contribution than the cool to try.

[Ghostbuster]

Idle 26 degrees? :O

Its Turkiye.. so ambient temperatures there are different.. Those in the tropics may have different idle readings. Heck, even my retired ancient Northwood 2.4GHz shows 25C on light loads...

[STaRGaZeR]

Its Turkiye.. so ambient temperatures there are different.. Those in the tropics may have different idle readings. Heck, even my retired ancient Northwood 2.4GHz shows 25C on light loads...

Since when Turkiye is in the tropics?

[malice85]

Its Turkiye.. so ambient temperatures there are different.. Those in the tropics may have different idle readings. Heck, even my retired ancient Northwood 2.4GHz shows 25C on light loads...

You're not serious on that one, aren't you?

[informal]

You're not serious on that one, aren't you?

Hey hey it must be a bad sensor readout or a cold country j/k
Anyhow,for a while we've known PhenomII runs very cool,even OCed+overvolted,so this just confirms that information.

[Rammsteiner]

Hey hey it must be a bad sensor readout or a cold country j/k
Anyhow,for a while we've known PhenomII runs very cool,even OCed+overvolted,so this just confirms that information.

It's there about 15~20C outside according to my sister. Still doesnt say a lot about ambient, although it's most likely not 25~30C but most likely ambient would be 18~22C I guess.

[eric66]

Idle 26 degrees? :O

who translated this lol and turkey isn't cold country actually it is far from cold

by the way author of this article says that you can expect everything seems that phenom won't dissappoint

[Hornet331]

giving idle temps without ambient temps is worthless.

But it looks like they used a scythe orochi as cooler for this one.

[Ghostbuster]

some tests

We know the sauce, and it was fishy... one of the graphs was found to be fake.

[Oliverda]

source: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...167502&page=18

[eric66]

anyway some news about prices fastest deneb will be cheaper than slowest nehalem

[malice85]

giving idle temps without ambient temps is worthless.

But it looks like they used a scythe orochi as cooler for this one.

Honestly I can't recognize anything, maybe I finally need some glasses Concerning those temps, I'm sure you can guess the ambient down there

[Ghostbuster]

I hope sxs112 would show us more... maybe benches?