Jerky playback of 1080p with phenom 98/9950 BE

[ea6gka]

player is KMPlayer 1433. i have both of these cpus and i cant watch a single 1080p movie without stuttering etc. 720p is fine but it is on my old laptop too...what is going on?

OS is XP X64 , vista X64 , 8 gb of ram , nvidia 260GTX...

please help

[NaMcO]

You're probably not using GPU acceleration and 2.6Ghz doesn't cut it for 1080p. I had to overclock my media center's 4850e to 3.0Ghz in order to play 1080p perfectly because FFDSHOW doesn't support GPU acceleration. I guess 2.8Ghz is enough, but i set it to 3.0 just in case.

I was getting audio/video desync with 1080p, everything 720p was just fine.

[ea6gka]

you mean KMPlayer doesnt use hardware acceleration?

[soundood]

what is the 1080p source? is it x264? or blue ray?

just for your info, i am running 1080p 25 fps, x264 (Matroska) smoothly with a x2 5200+ and a 9600gt.

KM Player isnt the end all either, i dont use it, i use media centre lol with some codecs

give us more info?

[Particle]

Video codec is important. HD-DVDs, Blu-Ray discs, and x264 all rely on the H.264 codec which is extremely taxing in 1080p. At modest bitrates of around 12-15Mbps, you'll be swamped on a K10 up to around 2.8-2.9GHz. Even then it's just barely enough.

If your media is in MPEG-4 (xvid, divx, WM9, etc) then you'll be alright even at stock speeds.

[soundood]

How does this look on your 1080p set up?

[Manicdan]

i watched a movie that was encoded at 7mbit average h.264. some parts went over 100mbit input bitrate and demolished my cpu. i found out my 3ghz duel core can do about 20mbit before crying. id figure a 2.5ghz quad could do almost every blue ray rip out there, but until i have one theres no point assuming

[ea6gka]

what is the 1080p source? is it x264? or blue ray?

just for your info, i am running 1080p 25 fps, x264 (Matroska) smoothly with a x2 5200+ and a 9600gt.

KM Player isnt the end all either, i dont use it, i use media centre lol with some codecs

give us more info?

it is a X264 movie , 1536 kbit/sec ... what was the name of that codec package, CCCP or something?

i will try some other codecs and will report back

9850BE is at stock...


GOD BLESS THE SOVIETS

install the CCCP and while KMP still has jerky playback , WMP 11 with the matroska codec loaded plays flawlessly . Cant believe the KMP falls short

[soundood]

k-lite codec package works a dream too, needs a bit of configeration, but aftert that its fine, glad to hear its working ok

[demonkevy666]

I use media center for TV, DVD, cause I have tv tuner but I haven't tried recoding a digital shows yet. tuner supports 1080I/P TV.
I don't get many though.

[funnyperson1]

Is Cool and Quiet disabled? I know Anandtech has had stuttering issues with video when C&Q is enabled.

[tbone8ty]

what about using VLC player? the new version is pretty extensive with settings....plays my 1080p .mkv files flawlessly


which codec r u guys recommending for .mkv play back in WMP?

[ccl2003]

You're probably not using GPU acceleration and 2.6Ghz doesn't cut it for 1080p. I had to overclock my media center's 4850e to 3.0Ghz in order to play 1080p perfectly because FFDSHOW doesn't support GPU acceleration. I guess 2.8Ghz is enough, but i set it to 3.0 just in case.

I was getting audio/video desync with 1080p, everything 720p was just fine.

I can play 1080p movies smoothly using the onboard vga of my Asus 780G and X2 5200+ @stock 2.7Ghz. No stuttering or lags whatsover and I am using KMplayer also.

[mesyn191]

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VLC is ok but still needs lots of work, AFAIK MediaPlayer Classic (the one distributed with CCCP) is far and away the best one out at the moment. CCCP is also probably the best codec pack available currently too. K-Lite Pack is pretty good though, just needs configuration for some things after install whereas CCCP works with almost anything with no effort after install, I think the support is a bit better for CCCP right now too.

[Manicdan]

theres a new box that came out just this weekend from western digital, its dirt cheap compared to other models and does only whats needed. for 100$ it plays 1080p near perfectly in all cases. just check out best buy for one.

[mesyn191]

theres a new box that came out just this weekend from western digital, its dirt cheap compared to other models and does only whats needed. for 100$ it plays 1080p near perfectly in all cases. just check out best buy for one.

?

His current hardware is fine to do what he wants, he doesn't need to spend money just switch to different software/codecs.

[tbone8ty]

still think VLC player is better and not changing. IMO..... but thanks for heads up on CCCP

[Omastar]

still think VLC player is better and not changing. IMO..... but thanks for heads up on CCCP

The latest release of VLC kinda sucks for me. It gives me weird crash to desktop errors when I play raw DVDs, quite a bit.

[Mechromancer]

I HAVE THE SOLUTION:

1) Download and install CCCP
2) Download and install the new FFDSHOW Beta which has been MULTI-THREADED for some time now:http://www.afterdawn.com/software/vi...rs/ffdshow.cfm

This FFDSHOW will install over the one that came with CCCP and fix you right up. Your problems will be solved. I had the same problem with a 6.64GB 1080p Blu-ray rip and my 3.0Ghz Opteron 185. One core is not enough to handle the decode. Two cores at even 2.6Ghz are on this old CPU now. Try out my solution. I guarantee it will work perfectly for you. Have a nice day.

[User9498]

I HAVE THE SOLUTION:

1) Download and install CCCP
2) Download and install the new FFDSHOW Beta which has been MULTI-THREADED for some time now:http://www.afterdawn.com/software/vi...rs/ffdshow.cfm

This FFDSHOW will install over the one that came with CCCP and fix you right up. Your problems will be solved. I had the same problem with a 6.64GB 1080p Blu-ray rip and my 3.0Ghz Opteron 185. One core is not enough to handle the decode. Two cores at even 2.6Ghz are on this old CPU now. Try out my solution. I guarantee it will work perfectly for you. Have a nice day.

Very interesting. I indeed will have a nice day if your suggestion works. I'm having trouble with only a few 1080p titles. My setup is a Gigabyte 780G and a BE-2400 overclocked to 2.9GHz. Otherwise most Blurays operate just find with Matroska and HDTV pump installed, playing on VLC and WMP.

Like has been already stated, a 780G/790FX X2 or Phenom combo should be more than Bluray capable with multi-core and hardware decoding software support. Iron Man looks and sounds amazing. The only problem is some tearing under fast moving scenes. Several other Blurays experience occasional video and audio stuttering. I was convinced my main problem was slowish DDR2 and a lack of sideport memory. So I'm hoping yours is the complete solution.

BTW, I don't know if anyone else has experienced this with the BE-2400... it's fixed at 1.250VID no matter where the FID is set. I confirmed this with a Kill A Watt and again with a multimeter.

[ea6gka]

well back with a new problem , if i leave CnQ enabled the playback is still troublesome...disabling CnQ is fine even with a 12GB 1080p movie. What i noticed is that CnQ although raises the voltage to 1.3V while the movie is playing the frequency is stuck at 1250MHZ. It doesnt go to 2500MHZ as it should despite the fact that vcore reaches 1.3V. I checked that with cpuz 1.48 , maybe a cpuz bug?

but still with CnQ enabled the processor cant decode the 1080p content

[soundood]

this problem has been well documented in Anadtech article about cool n quiet

here it is, makes some good reading,

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=3344&p=3

along with this one, which is more specific

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3430&p=6

[RhoXeD]

Core AVC = best HD decoder on the net probably.

my 3800+ x2 @ 2.5 can play any 1080P rip i have tried.

[ea6gka]

this problem has been well documented in Anadtech article about cool n quiet

here it is, makes some good reading,

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=3344&p=3

along with this one, which is more specific

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3430&p=6

these articles made me sad tbh. AMD needs to find a solution asap

[Manicdan]

Core AVC = best HD decoder on the net probably.

my 3800+ x2 @ 2.5 can play any 1080P rip i have tried.

i used that to play back 100mbit parts of a file, and yeah it did great for not making it choppy and skipping data, but its method seemed weird where it faked 80+fps to do it.

and i hate coreavc for watching 720p, upscaling sucked, i just used FFDshow