ASUS P5Q3 Deluxe discussion

[TheGoat Eater]

I gave up on mine as far as OCing it is concerned
gonna build my dad a nice rig with it

[blossa]

I gave up on mine as far as OCing it is concerned
gonna build my dad a nice rig with it

Yeah, I am thinking about the same. With three different CPUs I have reach about the same FSB, none of theese FSB are good enough for top results.

[TheGoat Eater]

I am really frustrated about it... ARGH!

[Sav]

hi guy
I (re)buy a new ram kit...wait for mushkin pc14400.

stay tuned for tests

[BNDMOD]

I use 1402 atm. With 1306 I could go higher but that was with a different CPU so... The settings are rather simulair between the BIOSes anyway.

For CPU and NB clock skew, 400/200 seems to work the same as 200/normal.

that config don-t work for me :s into vista it crash :s

[Fitseries3]

i have found that my gskill HZ's work great on this board, just how they should. however, a good friend of mine has the same board and same ram and he cant even get the stock 1600mhz to run stable. theres something fishy going on here.

[BNDMOD]

i have found that my gskill HZ's work great on this board, just how they should. however, a good friend of mine has the same board and same ram and he cant even get the stock 1600mhz to run stable. theres something fishy going on here.

YEah Gskill HZ work great here too... i can run stable with stock vdimm 7/7//7/18 at 920 mhz.... more camming :p

[faina77]

Hi Guy,
I use bios 1402, with this setting for 621Mhz
VNB:1.4
NB GTL:0.54
Vcpu:1.38
Pll:1.54
VFSB::1.32
Vdim:2.00

E8600
2x1Gb CellShock Pc12800
P5Q3 deluxe
Galaxy 1Kw



http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=416737

[BNDMOD]

Hi Guy,
I use bios 1402, with this setting for 621Mhz
VNB:1.4
NB GTL:0.54
Vcpu:1.38
Pll:1.54
VFSB::1.32
Vdim:2.00

E8600
2x1Gb CellShock Pc12800
P5Q3 deluxe
Galaxy 1Kw



http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=416737

Thank for your share, so i must think that is the e8600 don-t cross over 580 fsb?

[TheGoat Eater]

It is working - and really well now

[Amurtigress]

Hi people,

I have finally gotten my system stable, and after some thorough research I am coming to the conclusion that the board is perfectly fine, except for a stupid BIOS bug.

We all know it, when you're setting the memory timings manually for the first time, the AUTO entries are being changed to display the default memory timings. What's extremely irking and a spoiler to me, too, is that the defaults of the P5Q3 Deluxe board are 5-5-5-15. This is ridiculous tho, as we all know, the crucial timings are roughly doubling for DDR3 RAM. So we are setting our timings to something like 9-9-9-24. All fine and well, the problem in my opinion is the ACK# to ACK# Delay (tRRD) setting. It is not stored in the SPD, hence there's only ASUS faulty default of 5 clocks. And this is exactly what did not allow me to get prime stable, and potentially was driving lots of others up the wall.

Setting ACK to ACK delayed to AUTO will always put it at 5 (DDR2 typical!), while 8-10 is required for DDR3. You can find that, for example, in the forums of the OCZ support or at Corsair. So I think I have a good professional backing up for my thesis.

Another step to getting our board stable is tRFC. 60 is often not enough either. Corsair for example programs their SPDs to 41 in the XMP profile, which is usually ignored by the BIOS. Dual Channel requires twice the SPD's programmed value, so I recommend 82 or more for stability.

You can roughly determine your instability cause by the kind of issue you have. Too tight tRFC usually leads to sudden bluescreens and system resets, while the too tight tRRD is giving you errors in Prime 95, Orthos 2004 or OCCT.

Another factor is the Common Performance Level. The BIOS has a tendency to recommend lower values than 9, but at least 9 should be set manually. I am using 11 myself right now.

I hope this helps. Here's a lil screenshot of my memory settings....if you need to see more, let me know.

[BNDMOD]

Good to see that... i reach estable 400-410-420-430-440 right now, but i-m always testing for me
But i want to joing to the 600 FSB club :P

[Sav]

hi guy, today I've corrupted the bios but the die hard bios work very well on this mobo

[blossa]

hi guy, today I've corrupted the bios but the die hard bios work very well on this mobo

When this happens, you may be asked for a special BIOS-file to load. To save some time you can take what ever BIOS-version you want, rename it to what-file-you-have-been-asked-for, put it on an USB-stick and it load from there.

@faina77: Can you test how high you can run SP32M?

[BNDMOD]

Dam i-m tryin with a old bios to reach 600 fsb but i can-t.. what i must believe? cpu or mother?

[Sav]

it's possible that you wrong the memory divider.

What's your PL?
I can set 10 but is not stable...PL11 more stable

[Amurtigress]

sav, BND_MOD:

Try setting tRFC to 82 and tRRD (Act to Act delay) to 8-10

And read post 661 on this matter, further up on this page (page 27).

Should help....

[GAR]

I cant believe people are still buying this junk. Stop buying this board. LOL j/k how is this board coming along, i had it for 1 week, i wanted to kill myself, it drove me crazy :/

[BNDMOD]

I have test PL AUTO and 11 and 7 and all :p nothing work...

I-ll read that post thanks... i-ll try all again and i let you to know..

[BNDMOD]

well i have try all this

i Overclocker Tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 07.0
FSB Frequency: 600
PCIE Frequency: 100
FSB Strap To North Bridge: AUTO
DRAM Frequency: All Speed
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS Latency: 7-8
DRAM RAS to CAS Delay: 7-8
DRAM RAS Precharge: 7-8
DRAM RAS Activate to Precharge: 18-24
RAS TO RAS Delay: Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO-82
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read To Precharge Time: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Dynamic Write Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
DRAM Write Training: Disabled
MEM OC Charger: Auto-Disable
Ai Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO-PL 11-7

CPU Voltage: 1.3v-1.4
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): Auto
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): Auto
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.54-1.6
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.4-1.6
DRAM Voltage: 1.9-1.96
NB Voltage: 1.4-1.55
NB GTL Voltage: Auto or 0.545
SB Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: Auto
Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew: AUTO-200-400
NB Clock Skew: AUTO-200

nothing work :s into OS with setFSB i get 5Ghz validation and 580 max FSB :s no more :s

[Amurtigress]

nothing work :s into OS with setFSB i get 5Ghz validation and 580 max FSB :s no more :s

Try setting RAS to RAS delay to 8-10. It is the same setting that's called ACK to ACK delay in memset, I had that confused.

A default value of 5 should almost be impossible. These timings usually DOUBLE when going from DDR2 to DDR3 and it seems ASUS is using DDR2 defaults here....

Another lil change, up the Write to Pre delay prolly to 24 and increase tRFC beyond 82. Upt o 110 is possible.

If that doesn't help your OCing capabilities are prolly exhausted.

I am running my Q9300 at FSB470, but seriously, I am happy with it. Four cores are a lot of calculation power.

Let me know how it works with the new settings. My best guess is the RAS to RAS delay.

[Sav]

sav, BND_MOD:

Try setting tRFC to 82 and tRRD (Act to Act delay) to 8-10

And read post 661 on this matter, further up on this page (page 27).

Should help....

thanks, but it's possible run 1600 memory with this setting?

[Sav]

I confirm, with tRFC to 82, tRRD 8-10 and PL11 I have more stability but I had to change also memory divider and lose in memory read....







I think that with 2x1 gb (gtr) Pll 10 is possible if I set high memory divider.


@faina77
Validate is not a good "stabiliy" test

[Amurtigress]

[QUOTE=Sav;3287639]I confirm, with tRFC to 82, tRRD 8-10 and PL11 I have more stability but I had to change also memory divider and lose in memory read....

Sav:
Depends. One pair of my Corsairs works at 1600 when using the XMP profile.

But four modules...bear in mind that the P45 is only specified by intel to run four modules at 1333. ASUS' 1600 specification almost ONLY means one pair of modules...using four 1600s makes you lose overclocking ability anyway. it is a law of physics. If you are putting more load on the same lines to the chipset it will diminish the signal quality. My CL9 modules max out around at 1440, maybe some CL7 modules might make it that far.

[Sav]

yes, but I use 2x2Gb

I think we must find a correct memory divider according with fsb frequency.

Now with high tRFC and tRDD I can do this:





With old setting I can't do spi or everest because I had freezing