TRUE Worth it?

[Knight203]

I've been thinking about buying a TRUE for some time and was wondering if its still worth it, is there some thing out there thats better? If so please link

[mad_skills]

There are like n+1 topics on this subject, dude - use search.
Bottom line, if you need it it's worth it. If you want high performance air heatsink take Vendetta 2 or Xigmatech or that other cloned thing...

[OdinEidolon]

xigma really rocks. all the companies like ocz, sunbeamtech, kingwin, even silenx use its HDT design (they rebrand xigma hsf with another fan).
just check
www.frostytech.com

[Khalmyr]

I guess TRUE is not that much worth it anymore...

All these other coolers nearly reaching TRUE's performance at half it's price...

Oh well, we're still waiting for a BETTER one :p

[Pneumonic]

I disagree a lapped TRUE and high CFM fans is still untouchable, if you want the performance then you pays the price

[pvtdonuts]

I disagree a lapped TRUE and high CFM fans is still untouchable, if you want the performance then you pays the price

As far as RETAIL heatsinks go, the xigma or the ocz vendetta 2 are the best performers. yes lapping the TRUE and sticking a high CFM fan on there will make it a better performer, but the price is also gonna be higher and your gains will not be as great either

[itznfb]

I disagree a lapped TRUE and high CFM fans is still untouchable, if you want the performance then you pays the price

agreed. lapped TRUE with 2 75+cfm fans is untouchable. rivals most watercooling.

[Envydia007]

I like TRUE because its sexy looking beast esp with push pull fans ! LOL

[Knight203]

What fans would be recommended for a push/pull?

[LagunaX]

The TRUE is untouchable with the following 2 conditions met:
1) washer mod (stick a thin dime or penny thickness metal washer ring between the retainer and heatsink) for tight contact
2) decent high cfm fan (Scythe S-FLEX SFF21F is a good balance of cfm vs. noise)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...s-flex&x=0&y=0

As evidence, check out the following realtemp load temps with an e8600 under load @ 4.3ghz/1.352vcore with 1 push scythe s-flex fan:

[mad_skills]

agreed. lapped TRUE with 2 75+cfm fans is untouchable. rivals most watercooling.

This is true. Most people say Vendetta 2 or Achilles and co. rival TRUE on terms price/performance ratio.
It's true but when you put in it, all what TRUE can do, no air cooler can rival it.
On terms of sheer performance TRUE is still top notch.
Even with one high cfm fan it's good, let alone push-pull combo.

[CryptiK]

Yes TRUE is worth it. Vendetta etc are annoying to install and flimsy by comparison. Then add to that the performance of the TRUE, and it should be a no brainer. There have been many reviews that compare most of the top end coolers, so just use google and search for individual's results on forums you frequent.

That's what I did, and came to the conclusion it was worth it, and subsequently bought one. Also they can handle a quad with ease, and allow you to push some serious voltages on air if you wanted to abuse your cpu, so you won't need to upgrade in either scenario.

I'm happy with mine using an Antec Tri-cool 120mm fan on medium, and no washer mod. Max load temp for me is 49*C.

If it's out of your price range just get something you can afford.

[mad_skills]

As always it depends on the individual and it's needs. If you need it you will buy it, if not you won't.
I just don't like ppl that have TRUE say Vendetta 2, Achilles & co. are worse because they perform worse with all mods on the TRUE, and vice versa, ppl with Vendetta, Achilles & co. saying that TRUE is too expensive.
You get what you pay, just figure out what will you pay for.

[LuckyNV]

As always it depends on the individual and it's needs. If you need it you will buy it, if not you won't.
I just don't like ppl that have TRUE say Vendetta 2, Achilles & co. are worse because they perform worse with all mods on the TRUE, and vice versa, ppl with Vendetta, Achilles & co. saying that TRUE is too expensive.
You get what you pay, just figure out what will you pay for.

well I've heard plenty on the quality of the other coolers, things like dodgy fan, the heatpipes coming loose etc...

The only thing I dislike about the TRUE is the scissors mount and price, but I still love it to bits

price I don't mind, I don't think I need to change this cooler ever, unless Thermalright refuse to release a Nehalem bracket

[mad_skills]

The only thing I dislike about the TRUE is the scissors mount and price, but I still love it to bits

This also can be fixed with little time needed:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&highlight=mod

[LuckyNV]

I use a 2p coin, nice extra pressure, dropped 2C and doesn't twist and turn when I change fan

I'm just a bit miffed that end users have to fix this themselves, but meh its easy to do, still fiddly when mounting, I'd prefer the IFX14/Ultima90 mounting method perhaps.

[CryptiK]

Don't think I was bad-mouthing the Vendetta per se, I have just read a few posts of owners saying they had cut themselves on it, or failed to mount it properly due to its design. I just think the TRUE does the job slightly better, is more user friendly, and the mounting design is solid, which can be further improved with the washer mod.

[mad_skills]

One sole thing that they could have improved is to leave the mounting system they used on the old 120A Ultra instead of messing about with this scissor thing. It's not bad but there is a solution in the company itself.

[Knight203]

Would it be worth it with two high cfm fans (80+) un-lapped?

[Movieman]

"TRUE Worth it? "
Yes.. next subject..

[mad_skills]

Would it be worth it with two high cfm fans (80+) un-lapped?

It depends on what revision of the TRUE you've got.
The newer ones have base finish like this:

as you can see it's pretty good and lapping is not that necessary.
Older version, like the one i have really needed lapping and after that it's rather good.

[MaxT]

How do you know which version you have? Does the new version also suffer from the lack of pressure and does it need a washer mod?

[illidan]

thats mine on picture. well lapping is not needed. as for the lack of pressure, its not unmovable, so it's better to put something between base and that scissor mount

[mad_skills]

How do you know which version you have? Does the new version also suffer from the lack of pressure and does it need a washer mod?

You can differ them due to the look of the base. Mine had very little thin cut-ins , that look like small fins and is not flat. That's the old one.
Also the color is different. The base of mine is more copper-like in color, not this bright.

[Khalmyr]

well I've heard plenty on the quality of the other coolers, things like dodgy fan, the heatpipes coming loose etc...

The only thing I dislike about the TRUE is the scissors mount and price, but I still love it to bits

price I don't mind, I don't think I need to change this cooler ever, unless Thermalright refuse to release a Nehalem bracket

I'm sorry about digging this up.

But is TR going to release a bracket for LGA 1366?
I plan on upgrading in december / january, and I'd really like to keep my TRUE