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    AMD OverDrive 2.1.2

    AMD OverDrive 2.1.2 is now up on AMD site,

    http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_overdrive.aspx

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    nice!

    love the red and the status monitor tab, haha if u know what i mean :-)
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    I just looked for this last night.. ..I need it for my new build.. woohoo
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    Can you adjust Vcore in this version? I haven't been able to increase Vcore with either of the previous versions. I could overclock...but no voltage to do so.
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    For those of you on Server 2008, this can be forced to install. You will need the Orca MSI editor though.

    Change the launch condition to 1=1 or anything else that is always true. It will no longer at you and of course it runs fine. I just ran it on my Server 2008 install.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Particle View Post
    For those of you on Server 2008, this can be forced to install. You will need the Orca MSI editor though.

    Change the launch condition to 1=1 or anything else that is always true. It will no longer at you and of course it runs fine. I just ran it on my Server 2008 install.

    Thanks for the tip..glad to know it an be done...
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    WOW! Thanks for the link Flasker....

    I've only played with it for a few minutes (and managed to crash my system, of course... )

    But, AOD seems like a legitimate piece of OC software now! I managed to run at 3Ghz for a few minutes before it locked up, on a system that's limit was 2.812 before.

    All the voltages seem to work as they should, Memory V's have always been a problem in the past, it works fine now...

    The only thing I noticed that still seems wierd are the crazy temps shown on "TMPIN 2" (127c ?). This freaked me out from the early days, but I did the finger test and nothing was that hot so I guess it's still a fluke...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hokiealumnus View Post
    Can you adjust Vcore in this version? I haven't been able to increase Vcore with either of the previous versions. I could overclock...but no voltage to do so.
    It's up to the board,not AOD.
    As far as I know the ones with 770 chipset are not "supported"

    Love the new colors btw it still drops the voltages for the DFI

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    GUI looks ugly...

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    Quote Originally Posted by VVJ View Post
    GUI looks ugly...
    Well you also said:
    Quote Originally Posted by VVJ
    Today I got a SB750 datasheet. Frankly speaking, I'm not impressed! It’s just the same SB700. I would not waste the time and buy the best board with SB700.
    So I'm not sure how much weight I'm going to give to your opinion.

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    Heh. He probably just looked at some of the features. Big bonuses: ACC, no timing bug as with SB700 (early chips anyway), and RAID-5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VVJ View Post
    GUI looks ugly...
    marks out of ten?

    ide give her one

    and i know where i would give it to her




    serious though, i have just had to reinstal xp and vista from scratch, because of the Overdrive release before this one (that finaly worked on the AX78)


    i dont know if its just me, but whenever i use it, for anything, i corupt the bios on this board

    two or three boots later i start getting random shut offs with mem errors and so on, you know, open explorer and pop, blue screen !!

    a jedi i met many moons back, warned me about these 'on the fly' apps

    he said

    "to overclock, the bios you must adjust"

    i guess he is just right, although i live in hope of this kind of thing working well
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    I've always enjoyed AOD. It allows me to with my system settings without having to reboot for each small jump and without needing to clear CMOS after a failed attempt. I just leave the BIOS stock and OC in a test install of Windows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soundood View Post
    marks out of ten?
    i guess he is just right, although i live in hope of this kind of thing working well
    The AOD isn't your problem, your motherboard is just crappy. For example my M3A barely worked with AOD but the M3A-H that replaced it works great.

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    Can you still use the original skin in the new version of AOD? I'm not a big fan of the new black/red skins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMojoZ View Post
    Well you also said:
    So I'm not sure how much weight I'm going to give to your opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Extelleron View Post
    Can you still use the original skin in the new version of AOD? I'm not a big fan of the new black/red skins.
    Once go black, you can't come back

    There is probably a way to do it by changing the .xml config files
    The last version 2.1.1 beta was junk,it only lasted for 30 minutes on
    my hard drive. I went back to 2.1.0
    Anyway I love AOD it not perfect but better then Ntune.

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    Does this work in a Intel system with a ATI Graphics card (HD4870?)

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    Only works on AMD 700 series chipset motherboards.

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    So what can I use to OC my HD4870 more than the catalyst overdrive lets me in vista 64?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eppikk View Post
    So what can I use to OC my HD4870 more than the catalyst overdrive lets me in vista 64?
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    Hi guys I have a theory about how this Advanced Clock Calibration Tool works with the new SB750 and wanted to run it by folks here to see if its plausible or not...

    OK well I was reading soem AMD technichal documentation trying to get to grasps with the "Clock Interrupt Not Recieved..." BSOD and came across the following piece of info:

    From the AMD Phenom Software Optimisation Technical Documentation
    http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white_papers_and_tech_docs/40546.pdf
    In the previous generation multi-core processors, each core has its own timestamp counter locked to its core. Starting with AMD Family 10h processors, there exists a single clock source in the NorthBridge for all timestamp counters in a processor and these counters are incremented in lockstep. This enables the cycle counter to provide monotonically increasing values at a constant rate even when the cores are in power saving modes. This behavior of RDTSC(P) is indicated if EDX bit 8 is set to 1, as returned by CPUID function 8000_0007h. Note that an operating system can write different values to each core's TSC and can establish or correct a core-to-core skew, after which the TSCs all advance in lockstep with each other and thus maintain a constant core-to-core skew. The precision with which software can synchronize the TSCs across cores is dependent on the approach used, as well as platform factors, such as the consistency of inter-core communication latency through shared memory. This precision is typically limited to a few tens of cycles. In particular, the skew may exceed inter-core communication latencies such that inter-core observation of TSC values may not show strict monotonic behavior - a TSC value acquired from another core after the local TSC is read may have a lower
    I have felt for a long time that the problem was more to do with the chipset than it is the CPU... and that in particular to do with the out-dated SB600 southbridge.... hence the need for AMD to produce new Southbridges for the 780 chipset in the form of SB700 and a further revision to SB750 for the 780 and 790 chipsets...

    Look at what happens with the SB750 mobos and the "Mysterious" Advanced Clock Calibration (ACC) tool, the name alone suggests that it fixes an issue related to Clock timing issues...... then when you hear that the SB750 adopts a direct link to the CPU, instead of taking the customary approach of going via the Northbridge, it all suggests that AMD have got Southbridge problems, the 790 northbridge is without doubt the strongest perfoming NB available at the moment, but when its paired up with a weak SB, seems that the RDTSC(P) in the northbridge is struggling to synch the TSC's of the Cores accordingly...... this is my take on it anyway....!!!

    Obviously theres a lot more technical issues involved, but from everything that appears to be evolving from AMD at the moment, it seems as though every effort is being made to improve their Southbridge's since launch of Phenom we're now onto the 2nd revision of southbridge from AMD, first SB700 and now SB750.... each time there are improvements made to system stability with Phenom.... this latest seems to improve Phenom stability to the extent that Phenom can now clock to an almost gauranteed 300Mhz higher than stock, particularly for early silicon versions....

    Now this is the bit that seems plausible to me, that is, that the ACC and SB750 just enhacnes the north bridge RDTSC(P) so that when software tries to access the TSC of the cores in instances where it (Software i.e. OS) sets the TSC values differently and establishes or adjusts a core-to-core clock skew, after a certain amount of instances of the clock skew occuring, skew tolerances are exceeded which then causes the software to fail.... (the software in this example is the OS) and causes the "Clock Interrupt not recieved ..." BSOD error...!!!

    So I believe that what ACC does is to increase the core skew latency to improve stability, and this is done probably by either adding an additional RDTSC(P) in the SB750 chip, which then uses the now re-knowned "hidden" 6-pins on Phenom to have a direct link to the cores on the CPU to access the TSC's of the cores, or by bypassing the NB chip RDTSC(P) entirely and using a revised RDTSC(P) version on the SB750 chip.... which is adjustable using the setting in the mobo BIOS to increase core clock skew tolerance levels (-12% to +12%) this then allows for much greater OS stability.

    I suspect that many of the early Phenoms were binned at lower clocks for a fast release because of the issues related to the Southbridge/Chipset, even though the CPU itself is capable of higher clocks, it needs the proper chipset functionality to enable it to function as it was designed......

    This is my current thinking anyway....!!!!!

    And in fact as VVJ's post above seems to confirm that the next revision of Soutbridge is going to intergrate this kind of functionality.... with its integrated clock function....

    Does this make sense..... might need some smoothing out but this is how I have it in my mind....

    Any thoughts....??????
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    You might be on to something, Kazgirl


    It's definitely some sort of timing issue with the Phenoms.
    Another thing I've noticed with both of my Phenoms
    (9600be/9850be) is that running 1 core clocked higher and
    the rest clocked low is pretty easy:the OS only needs(to time 1 and not 4 cores , that's on the sb600 of course.
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    Does AOD have any issues in Vista x64 that anyone knows of? My ACC is greyed out along with my southbridge in diagram view, and I can't slide my HT multiplier down from 5 (I see it but it won't drag). This is 2.1.2.

    EDIT: I just noticed something else. I found out there should be an AODService so I went and looked and the service is missing. I then uninstalled and reinstalled in case I forgot to install "as admin" and the service is there now, but it won't start on it's own even if I set it to. If I reboot it goes back to manual start. Starting up AOD doesn't appear to start it either, and even when I manually start it ACC is still greyed out. I also noticed Windows Defender sends out system logs about the driver whenever I start it, though it doesn't appear to be blocking it in any way.

    More oddities. My cpu voltage in AOD is already at the top of the adjustment bar, but the top number is 1.25 which is the default voltage. I went into the BIOS and adjusted voltage to 1.45 and then went back to windows, and AOD shows no difference but CPU-Z picks it up. The odd thing is if I now drag the voltage bar downwards it does properly lower the voltage. So right now AOD thinks I'm running at 1.0625 voltage when I'm in fact running at 1.264 per CPU-Z. Any other gigabyte 790GX board owners see the same behavior? Memory voltage is accurate though on the slider level and the value it shows.
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