New Phenom Developments and 45nm "Stars" Cores

[Rammsteiner]

If you believe the sb600 is the fault of bad overclocking, why don't the chips overclock like hell on NF590/780?

Don't get your hopes too high lads.

*negativity mode off*

Can I remind you nForce 5 series are from way before Phenom and thus will most likely lack support for Phenom in general? Most likely the board lay-out alone is already not good enough for Phenom.

Regarding 780a, I might have missed things but I only saw like 3 OC's done thus far on a 780a board and they were all quite good. If I indeed missed something, maybe the SB600 problem is not really the problem its self, but Phenom just needs a special optimized SB. A SB which nVidia wouldn't have either? Ive no clue, but AFAIK 780a boards do great thus far, at least better than SB600.

ram, did you ever try a different motherboard...our phenoms behave EXACTLY the same...i wonder if its motherboard limit rather than the CPU

I told this a million times, YES, I do think so. I didnt try a different motherboard yet because, [looks around], there are no SB750 boards for sale yet.

The good OC's done thus far on a SB600, maybe these chips would even clock higher, maybe it's just a stepping which doesnt have as much problems with SB600 as others, maybe some steppings just suck arse. We dont know untill someone gets a SB750.

But I dont believe Phenom is just a bad clocker as long as I at least managed to get mine around 2.8Ghz but got struck by idle freezes, which is caused by the SB600. And then Im not even sure how much further I would be able to go. Fact is, if 1.3 to 1.45Vcore doesnt help, it's either the CPU not scaling well or something else. Since I could get my CPU to run around 2.8Ghz, Im 110% positive about SB750.

If it doesnt get my CPU above 2.8Ghz after all, so what. Then ive a crap stepping and Ill get another CPU. At least we do know the SB750 is doing its job then.

[EDIT]
http://my.ocworkbench.com/2008/compu.../part1/g11.htm
http://my.ocworkbench.com/2008/compu...8/part2/g3.htm

[EDIT 2}
From the AsRock features from the 2nd link:

ASRock ODE790GX-WiFi
Another AMD chipset model is ODE790GX-WiFi, which is based on the
latest AMD 790GX + SB750 chipsets. This new chipset supports the
AMD's Over Drive Extreme Technology, which is a real boost to
system performance.

Interesting...