My Dual Harper - Asus Z7S WS living review *56K warning*

[Movieman]

Depends on weight really, I can get a 2kg package sent to the US for 12€ which is okay, but anything above that and it gets evil (35€ for 5kg).

And yeah, German is a tough language to learn, wouldn't wanna do it - had enough trouble with French, but sometimes it pays off to speak a lot of languages.

Lets see, at todays valuations 12 euro's is probably $1,274,739.00 US..
Nope, can't do that..

[fungry]

excellent! i want a pair too xD hahahahaha. They look fantastic jcool.

keke

[karl_eller]

Hmm how much to send a couple of those over here to Aust? Thermalright HR-07's are about AU$30-50 a pop (say 17-30 euro), which is a bit steep for RAM coolers.

Eller

[fungry]

Hmm how much to send a couple of those over here to Aust? Thermalright HR-07's are about AU$30-50 a pop (say 17-30 euro), which is a bit steep for RAM coolers.

Eller

wow that is pretty expensive... I am currently selling my pair away haha but you are in Australia. Bah,,, unless you plan on waiting till july for the pair xD.

[jcool]

Great news guys: Asus finally released a new Bios fopr the Z7S WS just this morning.
Will flash asap and tell you how it goes. Hopefully my Dual Harper can now unleash its full potential.

Edit: Wow, some cool new features there, including an option called "SF Bypass" which is the dreaded Snoop Filter, yay. Now I only need to find out if it has to be enabled or disabled...

[fungry]

awesome jcool! Hope it does unleash the power of your rig. Good luck !

[jcool]

You bet it does
First run Cinebench R10 @ 3,00Ghz gives me 39s

[2fink]

You bet it does
First run Cinebench R10 @ 3,00Ghz gives me 39s

congrats... hopefully everything runs fine and you can unleash the power completly!

[Gen]

congrats... hopefully everything runs fine and you can unleash the power completly!

39s, nice! makes me even more jealous hehe. if this bios fixes most of the problems i think it would be a hard choice between it and Intel's SK, especially since it's $170 cheaper here in Canada.

[jcool]

Most of the problems? I had no problems whatsoever, except for the lame performance. And now that the performance is fixed, too, I just love this rig

HCC WUs complete in ~3:20 at 3,2Ghz which seems about right (considering it's crunching 8 simultaneously ) and Cinebench is down to 36-37s.

Benches/1st Post Edit and so on later/tomorrow when I get the Yeon Yang cube.

[Bobsama]

Most of the problems? I had no problems whatsoever, except for the lame performance. And now that the performance is fixed, too, I just love this rig

HCC WUs complete in ~3:20 at 3,2Ghz which seems about right (considering it's crunching 8 simultaneously ) and Cinebench is down to 36-37s.

Benches/1st Post Edit and so on later/tomorrow when I get the Yeon Yang cube.

Nice!!! So the Z7S is going along nicely. Now, you better not take it off the grid! Normal maintenence is only once every 50,000,000 points!

[fungry]

Nice!!! So the Z7S is going along nicely. Now, you better not take it off the grid! Normal maintenence is only once every 50,000,000 points!

hahaha! and jcool, very nice !

[jcool]

Nice!!! So the Z7S is going along nicely. Now, you better not take it off the grid! Normal maintenence is only once every 50,000,000 points!

The rig has been lying on a wooden table for the past weeks, crunching all the time. I can see some strange burn-like traces on the table already
So I think she deserves a day off, don't you

[fungry]

I think you should mount wheels xD

[jcool]

Some benchies:





Now that's what I would call 0wn4ge



All benches at 430*7,5 which is my 24h stable crunch setting

[Bobsama]

Some benchies:

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Now that's what I would call 0wn4ge

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All benches at 430*7,5 which is my 24h stable crunch setting

That IS 0wn4ge! You, my good sir, are XTREME.

Congrats on such an awesome system! Also, you can give her a day off... but only this once! Get her in a case, and then she'll be even better!

[jcool]

Thanks for the heads-up
I must say I am really pleased with the setup now and I would recommend it to anyone who is able and willig to spend that much. Of course, two Q6600@3,6Ghz are equally fast and cost less, but where is the fun in that

Also considering the points-per-Watt ratio of this setup, it seems hard to beat. Gotta think about the environment, what with all those freaks and their phase units
8 WUs in 3:20h average with ~570 WCG points claimed per result totals about 1425 WCG points or 203 BOINC points per hour of runtime, with a power drain of ~250W running HCC, so that makes 5,7 WCG/0,812 BOINC points-per-Watt or 34200/4885,7 WCG/BOINC points per day/6KW.

Is that in any way remotely correct? I hate maths

[Movieman]

Thanks for the heads-up
I must say I am really pleased with the setup now and I would recommend it to anyone who is able and willig to spend that much. Of course, two Q6600@3,6Ghz are equally fast and cost less, but where is the fun in that

Also considering the points-per-Watt ratio of this setup, it seems hard to beat. Gotta think about the environment, what with all those freaks and their phase units
8 WUs in 3:20h average with ~570 WCG points claimed per result totals about 1425 WCG points or 203 BOINC points per hour of runtime, with a power drain of ~250W running HCC, so that makes 5,7 WCG/0,812 BOINC points-per-Watt or 34200/4885,7 WCG/BOINC points per day/6KW.

Is that in any way remotely correct? I hate maths

looks good to me..

[msimax]

glad to see it working for you are you going to do any direct benches against skulltraill i would like to see that

[[XC] riptide]

We need vcore mod!

[klajd]

Did you receive a new bios from Asus , ?

[Gamekiller]

Great news guys: Asus finally released a new Bios fopr the Z7S WS just this morning.
Will flash asap and tell you how it goes. Hopefully my Dual Harper can now unleash its full potential.

Edit: Wow, some cool new features there, including an option called "SF Bypass" which is the dreaded Snoop Filter, yay. Now I only need to find out if it has to be enabled or disabled...

Did you receive a new bios from Asus , ?

[fungry]

Excellent jcool. Glad to hear that the new BIOS definitely and for sure... increased your performance. The fact remains, I am still hearing voices to go out and purchase a dual quadcore setup -.-...

hahahaha.

[redmodel]

This is great news, I have mine sitting in a box waiting for the new bios.. but I can't put it together for another couple of weeks until i finish my current project.

Is that cinebench 64 or 32bit?

I think i was getting worse numbers on the dseb-dg board with dual e5450s. Although, that had 667mhz FB-Dimms. Which I am thinking i should probably sell and replace with 800mhz now.

Did you have hardware Prefetcher off too?

it also doing a quick glance, it looks like I can put on the HR-05/FX cooler to replace the northbridge, and not have to mod the HR-01-Xs

but the cooler on the NB is pretty hardcore looking as it is. It'd be a waste not to use it on something else.

[jcool]

glad to see it working for you are you going to do any direct benches against skulltraill i would like to see that

Maybe if Wes has some time, some day
Even though ST can't handle that kind of FSB as it seems

We need vcore mod!

That wouldn't help me I'm afraid. I tried yesterday with mult 7 if I could go higher and I can't. Prime smallFFT reboots, which means my CPUs are at their FSB limit. Small wonder considering they only get 1,07V VTT. So me, I'd need a VTT setting to go further.

@klajd: No, but I sent the Asus Techsupport everything we found out (about the SF and such) and it seems we were heard. Friend of mine discovered the file on the Asus ftp yesterday morning and thankfully, he told me.

@redmodel: No, both HW prefetcher options are set to enabled. I tried again with the new bios and couldn't find any differences in Nuclearus, Cinebench etc. so I left them on. Just set SF Bypass to enable and you're good. I also have EIST/C1E enabled, so it goes down to 2560Mhz and 1,05V or something
Bench is 64bit like it says in the screenshot
The HR-05 IFX will fit the NB with unmodified HR-01 X, but its bottom plate has a surface area vastly smaller than the IHS of the 5400 northbridge. Friend of mine uses it and says it works well, but I'm not a friend of small coolers on large heatspreaders.

On another note, it seems that my Z7S is NOT cheating about the mem speed, benchmarks indicate there is no throttling or wrong divider involved.

However, a friend's Z7S is cheating somehow. He runs his 667 FBDimms at a reported 412Mhz (which can't be true obviously) and gets horrible ram bandwidth benches, less than me at stock 333.
So be careful with clocking 667 FBDimms too high, at some point the mobo will reduce performance. However it seems to generally be able to clock the mem higher than other boards.