The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[Nuckin_Futs]

I'm getting anctious waiting for the Q9450 yet I hear the Xeon X3350 can do the same 4GHz with ease. If this is true, I'll got for that instead. Anybody using a Xeon 45nm quad on the MAXIMUS yet? How is the FSB to over 485? Any links to good Xeon quad reviews for overclocking on air?

[Krav]

Thanks for tips guys got loadline calibration enabled now.

Ive got my CPU core voltage @ 1.30v and my fsb termination voltage at 1.30volts also, should i be keeping these at about the same? or can i lower fsb Termination much more? I will be experimenting lowering cpu voltage more but just not sure what i should be trying termination voltage at..

[loften]

put a fan over the nb like this. it lowered my nb and sb temps 10-15 degrees.

[safan80]

Cause I know for sure just before I got the corrupted v907, S3 failed at any FSB (even stock) and divider. I realize most will not use since most here are built for benchmarking and always on, but if anybody useing as a real world app workstation can comment.

as I said in an earlier post 0903 has S3 issues I'm using 1004 and haven't had any S3 issues. I'm even able to use lower voltages.

[Krav]

put a fan over the nb like this. it lowered my nb and sb temps 10-15 degrees.

might have to try that!

[safan80]

Sorry if this has been asked before, but is it better to flash this board to the Rampage Formula BIOS, or the latest Maximus Formula beta BIOS? I have a board coming, and I want to get it set right the first time. I know the Rampage BIOS is a little dated compared to the Formula one, but I'm not sure if they've increased the FSB capability with the Formula one or not. Last I heard the Rampage one was getting higher FSB on peoples boards. Thanks

I would flash to the latest beta bios (1004) and wait for the rampage bioses to get better.

here's the difference between 0903(first pic) and 1004(2nd pic)

[Nuckin_Futs]

Sounds good so far, but what else for real world everyday use is fixed. S3/STR on a 5:6 divider is enough already. I just dont wanna' go through another BETA 907 disater.

Can any E6750/E6850 user confirm good results all around in BETA 1004? I'm really concidering that Xeon X3350 any high FSB overclock reviews yet?

[ChaosMinionX]

Sounds good so far, but what else for real world everyday use is fixed. S3/STR on a 5:6 divider is enough already. I just dont wanna' go through another BETA 907 disater.

Can any E6750/E6850 user confirm good results all around in BETA 1004? I'm really concidering that Xeon X3350 any high FSB overclock reviews yet?

Ill be using a X3350 here shortly, but my board is currently with the Rampage formula hack

[dude_500]

is "Core Voltage" under "CPU Physical Info" in EVEREST the VID? It's 1.300V on my Q6600 G0 and my actual voltage is at 1.47 so it's not the current voltage. I can't get most little vid apps to work being that I use xp 64 so I'm looking for the VID if this is not it.

[Grnfinger]

Sounds good so far, but what else for real world everyday use is fixed. S3/STR on a 5:6 divider is enough already. I just dont wanna' go through another BETA 907 disater.

Can any E6750/E6850 user confirm good results all around in BETA 1004? I'm really concidering that Xeon X3350 any high FSB overclock reviews yet?

MF 1004 is very 45nm friendly, On the Asus Taiwan FTP 1004 was listed as NON beta definately flash to it.
The Xeon is clocking better than the Q9450 from what I have seen.

[jwfitt]

Well I finally found some settings I'm happy with! Over 7 hours prime stable:

Extreme Tweaker 
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual  
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 112

DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1021 
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual 
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : 60
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disable
- Relax Level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.39375
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.35
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.30
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

NB LED Selection : NB Volt 
SB LED Selection : SB Volt 
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt 
Voltiminder LED : 

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled 
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled 

Advanced CPU Configuration 
CPU Ratio Setting : 9.0
C1E Suppport : Disabled 
CPU TM Function : Disabled 
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled 
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled 
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled 


USB Configuration 
USB Functions: Enabled 
Legacy USB Support : Auto

[Grnfinger]

I would flash to the latest beta bios (1004) and wait for the rampage bioses to get better.

here's the difference between 0903(first pic) and 1004(2nd pic)

I'm thinking the Rampage conversion is definately worth it for performance increase
My little C2D

[eSp!s0]

Sounds good so far, but what else for real world everyday use is fixed. S3/STR on a 5:6 divider is enough already. I just dont wanna' go through another BETA 907 disater.

Can any E6750/E6850 user confirm good results all around in BETA 1004? I'm really concidering that Xeon X3350 any high FSB overclock reviews yet?

Very good results with E6750 and 1004 for me
No higher OC, but very stable for me and no problems with the settings from 0903 (450x8 and 515x7), but don`t load OC Profile from another version, set settings again manually and save in OC Profile again after flash.
Also a very little bit more performance in Everest Cache/Mem bench, but it`s not much, really.

[rcjian]

First time in OC'ng. Started priming more than two hours ago using small ffts for a start. How long should I let it priming? I started my Vcore at 3.5 but it kept giving me error, so I add a little Volts at a time until I end up with 1.4625 V in bios but reading at 1.44 on probeII. Worried about the cpu temp which at 56 deg on load, should I? It is using an Arctic Cooling Freezer Pro.

Suggestions are welcome!!!


[IMG][/IMG]

[Grnfinger]

First time in OC'ng. Started priming more than two hours ago using small ffts for a start. How long should I let it priming? I started my Vcore at 3.5 but it kept giving me error, so I add a little Volts at a time until I end up with 1.4625 V in bios but reading at 1.44 on probeII. Worried about the cpu temp which at 56 deg on load, should I? It is using an Arctic Cooling Freezer Pro.

Suggestions are welcome!!!


[IMG][/IMG]

56c on load is more than ok I wouldn't worry about it.
Running prime is more of a gray area, some will ask for insane running time and others are satified with a few hours. I would run small fft's for 3-6 hours, if it passes switch to blend and run it for 6-12 hours and I would call that rock solid.

[rcjian]

56c on load is more than ok I wouldn't worry about it.
Running prime is more of a gray area, some will ask for insane running time and others are satified with a few hours. I would run small fft's for 3-6 hours, if it passes switch to blend and run it for 6-12 hours and I would call that rock solid.

Thanks! How about my Vcore? I'm jealous of those people whose CPUs are running at 1.35 v or so? Is mine at 1.4625V too high?

[cuke2u]

Thanks! How about my Vcore? I'm jealous of those people whose CPUs are running at 3.5 v or so? Is mine at 1.4625V too high?

Hi, I'd be worried about 56c under load in probe as it consistantly under reads temps at around 25c less than the actual core temps...
Chris

[rcjian]

Hi, I'd be worried about 56c under load in probe as it consistantly under reads temps at around 25c less than the actual core temps...
Chris

So which other programs to use for reading these temps that is more accurate?

[Grnfinger]

Everest is very acurate, grab the latest version and you'll be set.
Every chip is different, your vcore seems a tad high for 4.0GHz I need that for 4.4GHz, for 4.0 I can run around 1.34 - 1.35 volts

[Krav]

Could anyone tell me what i should be setting fsb termination voltage at when having cpu voltage at 1.28.

Thanks!

[initialised]

After Flashing my stable OC is no longer stable, performance monitoring apps (SpeedFan and nVidia Monitor) crash it. Guess I'll have to grab the Rampage versions of all the drivers and reinstall the apps.

[Wolf2000me]

After Flashing my stable OC is no longer stable, performance monitoring apps (SpeedFan and nVidia Monitor) crash it. Guess I'll have to grab the Rampage versions of all the drivers and reinstall the apps.

I've had this too and I'm still on the 907 formula bios. I just chose not to use Speedfan anymore and just use the PCprobe thingy. It had nothing to do with my settings being unstable as I haven't had a single stress test fail on me after that. It might be possible to just adjust speedfans settings but I never bothered.

I'm really itching to get this mod done but I don't really have the time to go through lots of time of stability testing atm Might be a while when I do.

But I wonder, when you've flashed to the Rampage bios, can one flash the bios later by the "more traditional" means ?
I'd assume it will but you guys probably know this for sure

[ZenEffect]

^ this only re-enforces what i said.

CHECK OUT PAGE 13 FOR UPDATED FLASH PROCEDURES.

[p2501]

Could anyone tell me what i should be setting fsb termination voltage at when having cpu voltage at 1.28.

Thanks!

Lowest possible setting that's still stable.

If it's stable at the lowest possible setting, then just leave it there. If not then work your way up until it's stable using OCCT in CPU setting. But considering the fact that you state this exact voltage leaves a faint suspicion that that is your stable voltage, am I wrong?

[initialised]

http://rapidshare.com/files/99518261...ormula_219.zip

Thanks for that, hopefully it will help.

I can post at ~3.8GHz and boot to windows at 3.6GHz which are both higher that before Rampaging it but it's less stable at my usual 3.4GHz (8x425) and no longer stable at 3.2GHz.

So mixed results from me.