Naked Phenom

[Oese]

i'd suspect hairdryer is not hot enough.. pan-frying method sounds as horrible then burning with a pocket torch..

whatever, i think its completely useless as in my case i neither got better overclock nor better temps.. won't do it again..

but if you like the adrenaline, you can try.. i'd think it's an effect comparable to a bungee jump at least and i think bungee jump is safer :p

i'll look for some pics

[enteon]

you are really brave trying this

too bad it doesn't result in lower temps...
but maybe that's good for we can get lower temps without putting our cpu at stake.

Naaah!! screw that soldering where did all the fun go

[LIKMARK]

Remember unlidding my Opty 165, that was scary. Need to be a adrenaline junky to do this. Congrats for doing it without destroying the cpu though.

BTW: That's one big die!!

[Oese]

hehehehe it was hot and smelled like burning plastic, my body was shaking and honestly i was a bit surprised that it booted like always after that procedure

it was an desperate attempt to getting more plausible temps and perhaps better oc, my dfi was showing me 18°C core 1, 24°C core 2 and 28°C cpu diode idle, 38°C core 1 45°C core 2 and 75°C cpu diode under full load

but afterwards still the same... these temp measures are totally useless..

[NickS]

Any advice on how to heat the CPU up? I actually have another dead phenom on my table

I saw someone do this. They put a blob of thermal paste in the bottom of a pot. Then they stuck four razors in the CPU, one on each corner, to pull upwards slightly on the core. Then they stuck the CPU down on the thermal paste, IHS side down, and pushed down a bit.

Fired up the stove. Heard a few snaps, IHS was free.

[karbonkid]

It's not intended to be taken off - why would AMD be bad?
btw FYI Intel has been doing this for longer period.

Lol, it's not that they're bad, just that this is slightly disappointing. I'm just bitter because i didn't expect AMD to go down this route, especially as the BE is designed for OCing.

[Oese]

karbonkid: i'd appreciate better temps with ihs more than a worse temps that becomes better if ihs is taken off..

best case is good temps with ihs, ok no tweaking that direction anymore, but if it runs cool without why do you call back the old days??

what i'd appreciate are more accurate temp readings, far more important for oc than an ihs easier to take off but with horribly bad thermal paste...

[karbonkid]

karbonkid: i'd appreciate better temps with ihs more than a worse temps that becomes better if ihs is taken off..

best case is good temps with ihs, ok no tweaking that direction anymore, but if it runs cool without why do you call back the old days??

Because I'm strange like that . But yeah, I guess you're right...

what i'd appreciate are more accurate temp readings,...

Yeah, AMD really needs to sort out its issues with temp. readings - have the Brisbane temp. sensor issues been solved with Phenom?

far more important for oc than an ihs easier to take off but with horribly bad thermal paste...

AFAIK, AMD used to use Shin-Etsu Microsi (G-571 is what they used to recommend using on Athlon XP, but by the time A64 came around, I wouldn't be surprised if it was newer, and better, stuff) under its lids, and that's good stuff, better than AS5 imho.

[Oese]

AFAIK, AMD used to use Shin-Etsu Microsi (G-571 is what they used to recommend using on Athlon XP, but by the time A64 came around, I wouldn't be surprised if it was newer, and better, stuff) under its lids, and that's good stuff, better than AS5 imho.

mmh thats new to me and surprising as i never really trusted in that crumbly dry paste..

but i dont know, can be that you're right, as i always wondered why amd is ruining its processors with a bad paste.. perhaps it wasnt that bad

[breakfromyou]

at least it's symmetrical?

stop pushing volts to those phenoms! they wont do 3 GHz, so stop trying :p

honestly: why so many dead phenoms?

[Vassili]

Maybe this methode works:
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/402/2/

[JumpingJack]

Lol, it's not that they're bad, just that this is slightly disappointing. I'm just bitter because i didn't expect AMD to go down this route, especially as the BE is designed for OCing.

No doubt AMD put the BE out for the OCing experimenter, but I doubt either AMD or Intel expect (nor intended) people to pry off the IHS just for that extra few degrees.

The interfacial mate between die and IHS is important that both players engineer the best thermal transfer process into their packaging for that technology.

It's only disappointing to the point that we cannot pry the damn thing off