The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[Yay for Cheese]

I successfully changed my MF into a RF but I'm starting to have some DET DRAM problems. My old stable settings on the MF won't work and I get the DET DRAM hang when I set the FSB higher than 380 or so. It's either me screwing up mobo conversion process or there's some new thing in the BIOS I don't get yet.

[Signal64]

God I hate to sound like such a noob but need advice on pushing an E6850 past 460FSB.

I think that just might be the limit on the E6850's I have as I've tried on a few boards now.
Currently trying with the Maximus Rampage conversion on a 1.03g board (BIOS 219).

I'm trying to keep under 3.6Ghz due to cooling at the moment and more interested in trying to push FSB for memory performance.

I'm testing out some Patriot PC28500 2x2GB sticks and trying to get to 500x7 or 533x6.

[dootiez]

I successfully changed my MF into a RF but I'm starting to have some DET DRAM problems. My old stable settings on the MF won't work and I get the DET DRAM hang when I set the FSB higher than 380 or so. It's either me screwing up mobo conversion process or there's some new thing in the BIOS I don't get yet.

Same here. I just converted my Maximus Formula to Rampage Formula bios and my old stable settings on the MF won't work as well. I, too, am getting alot of DET DRAM hang-ups. Right now, I'm just running on default till I get a better handle on new settings.

Any advice on how to tweak the Rampage Formula Bios?

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And how do I flash back to Maximus Formula?
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Running on:

-Quad 6600 GO stepping
-Kingston HyperX 4 gig DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)

[XtremeTiramisu]

Same here. I just converted my Maximus Formula to Rampage Formula bios and my old stable settings on the MF won't work as well. I, too, am getting alot of DET DRAM hang-ups. Right now, I'm just running on default till I get a better handle on new settings.

Any advice on how to tweak the Rampage Formula Bios?

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And how do I flash back to Maximus Formula?
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Running on:

-Quad 6600 GO stepping
-Kingston HyperX 4 gig DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)

You can try the flash method I posted above and replace the RF bios to MF bios of your choice. Type in the same command with the change to the MF bios name. It should work.

I don't get any DET RAM hang until I've reached ~460+FSB. Overall experience seems a bit more stable than MF bioses I've tried but performance wise, it's roughly the same in term of bandwidth from Everest. Performance level 7 = MF AI booster set to auto or disable 0. However there are more finer tuning options in the RF bios to help users squeeze a bit more bandwidth before the next unstable configuration.

It will take a lot of your time to find the exact best stable/performance configuation with all the extra fine tuning options that Asus has ever had to put in a bios. Prepare to reboot a lot of times and run countless everest benches to find the answers the usability of each finer options.

I think RF bios gives me much less DET RAM occassions than MF bios. I'm currently benching at 470FSB * 8 at performance level 7 and NB volt set to 1.67 in bios....yes it does need this high to even use OCCT/Prime95 to bench. Quad 6600 G0 at *8 multi does put a lot more stress on the NB than stock *9. Those of others who has 45nm e8x00 will luckier in OC in this case....I hope the new 45nm Q9x50 with its 8 or 8.5 multi will be more likely to bench stable at 470+fsb.

[gurusan]

What sort of voltages are people needing to run 470fsb on a dual core?

I'm coming from a P5B and P5K, which both did 470fsb with 1.4V NB...so am I being too conservative on the voltage?

[Grnfinger]

enable all pull-ins and set PL8
you will get better bandwidth and latency

[XtremeTiramisu]

enable all pull-ins and set PL8
you will get better bandwidth and latency

Good call but that's essentially set PL7 and dissable all pull-ins.
I realized this cos after I've change first couple pull-ins to enable on channel A and B I see 77888 77888 for PL. It does increase the bandwidth and latency at the cost of system stability depends on which FSB strap you're currently running and the corresponding FSB.

[Grnfinger]

Compared to PL7 disabled, PL8 enabled is faster

PL7 disabled


PL8 enabled


Notice the huge jump in L2 Cache

hard to argue

3.4GHz Prime blend stable

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 478
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1147
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 35
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Enabled

CPU Voltage : 1.40
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

Skew set to AUTO

[HellasVagabond]

Can someone give me a complete list of changes for the memories ? Considering that they are not maxed out at 1066MHz ( I wanted 1:1 ratio ) so they are running at 890MHz......
Ideas ?

[gurusan]

your L2 cache bandwidth is much higher than mine, yet mine has almost twice the latency. Is this because you have a wolfdale chip?

[Grnfinger]

yeah 8400 are not that great on L2 and you also have a 69% OC

[gurusan]

I thought it was the bus speed and not the % oc that mattered in terms of cache speeds and latencies.

Anyway that doesn't seem to slow them down as they are faster clock vs clock

[Stanley Pain]

My account finally got validated. I've been following this thread for a while now.

The Rampage 219 bios defintely allows for a high FSB OC on my Q6600 G0. Previous best was around 425FSB, now I can pull over 480.

I'm still working on getting everything as high as possible but stable. Right now 480 x 8 with PL=6 seems to be the sweet spot. I can get the CPU to post at 4.2GHz, but it's not stable.


Thanks to everyone involved in this awesome mod. Can't wait to see some new BIOS to play around with.

[Clemmer]

Dear proffessionals,

Question:

I am currently running a Maximus 1.3 Rev MB. (1004)
4 x 1 GB Corsair Dominators Pc2-8500 C5 (1066)
Q6600 w/go

Does anyone have BIOS settings for this type of config?
Should I make it a Rampage board?

Thanks!

[andre X_X]

dont even bother flashed P5E3 Deluxe to Premium.. you'll ended up with dead mobo
my P5E3 Dlx cant boot right now... all fans spinning but no boot

[gurusan]

sorry to hear that

[BigGaroupa]

Having problems pushing my OCZ Reaper 4x2GB DDR2 rated @ 4-4-4-15 2.1v.

-CPU Q6600 @ 3.6GHz 4hours Prime95
-If I push my RAM past 800MHz 1 of the Prime95 threads will fails within minutes
-I've tried DDR2-961 @ 5-5-5-15 no go
-Also I noticed my CPU isn't stable unless I push 1.5v is there a workaround?

Any ideas how to push my RAM higher?

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800
DRAM Command Rate : AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : STRONG
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.500
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

[Stanley Pain]

dont even bother flashed P5E3 Deluxe to Premium.. you'll ended up with dead mobo
my P5E3 Dlx cant boot right now... all fans spinning but no boot

Oh man . Dead motherboards are never fun

[kiwi]

dont even bother flashed P5E3 Deluxe to Premium.. you'll ended up with dead mobo
my P5E3 Dlx cant boot right now... all fans spinning but no boot

Can you try asus bios recovery?

[Dostoyevsky77]

HellasVagabond, good to see you here as well as Nvidia forums!

I have problems when I try to run my 4x1GB at 1:1. This board is finicky with it. I need much more vNB and more vDIMM just to POST. Perhaps your problem is trying to stay at a conservative speed.

Try the 6:5 in the 333 strap. That seems to work best for me with 4x1 (sigged).

Oh, and my vNB is 1.49 and vDIMM is 2.18 (2.2 stock).

[HellasVagabond]

Been here since a long time ago but i rarely ever post...I just watch
I am getting help over at OCZ Forums as well as here....This mobo is somewhat weird...

[ante_ante]

Can someone help maybe with my crucial ballistix pc8500 rams.
Having hard time to get them stable over 1000mhz. I know these sticks does 600mhz + but when i´m setting it in bios i only get DET DRAM. Any clues what i should try out ??

[Eastcoasthandle]

DRAM Voltage : 2.00 ??? why not 2.10V for that ram? From what I've seen that ram is rated at 2.15V (depending on circumstance)

[andre X_X]

how do i use asus bios recovery (asus crash free) when nothing appears in screen? its the black screen of death... if you have other way please help

[andre X_X]

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