The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[Newms118]

thanks zen, but i mean when i change vcore in the BIOS, to say 1.400, when i enter windows and run cpuz or speedfan, i get a large deviation like 1.34 when idle, not under load, or if i enter 1.34 in bios i get 1.28 when idle, so if i want to get 1.4, it looks like ill have to increase vcore to like 1.5 or something, something is deff off

[iTravis]

It's been awhile since I'm using my 907. Should I upgrade to 1004 for my Q6600? It seems the 45nm has more benefits with this BIOS than the 65nm Quad and Dual.

[ZenEffect]

Why do you have to use bestbuy?

gift card. if it were me though id hold out for a q9550. i WAS going to get one last weekend but i got parts for a hackintosh build that is loading software right now

[ZenEffect]

It's been awhile since I'm using my 907. Should I upgrade to 1004 for my Q6600? It seems the 45nm has more benefits with this BIOS than the 65nm Quad and Dual.

i tried it but went back to 907 as it seemed more stable for my q6600. currently im really enjoying the rampage mod though too much to consider going back to a maximus unless i had to rma it for some reason

[ericab]

@chaosminion; giftcard...

@zen
the problem is, best buy doesn't sell cpu's; only full systems :/

....plus even if best buy did sell it; the fact that your average e-tailer sells the q9550 for $500, BB's price wold probably be astronomically higher.

[cstkl1]

rampage formula is available but at a ridiculous price
RM3.2=USD1
DFI LT X38 -T2r= RM 880
maximus formula = RM1050
maximus formula SE = RM1150
Rampage formula = RM1350?????
Maximus Extreme = RM1399

[ChaosMinionX]

Seems it needs like 1.5v FSB to get 475x8 stable....... Will report back findings.

[TheOriginalTB]

What are you NB volts and FSBT volts?

As listed in the BIOS: (not the values selected, but the actual values)

CPU: 1.480
CPU PLL: 1.616
FSB Termination: 1.456
DRAM: 2.352
NB: 1.648
SB: 1.072
SB 1.5: 1.536

Also I noted one peculiar thing - if I set all voltages to auto and boot with 266MHz FSB I get theese values: (same order as above)


CPU: 1.288
CPU PLL: 1.616
FSB Termination: 1.232
DRAM: 1.888
NB: 1.264
SB: 1.072
SB 1.5: 1.536

And if I change the FSB to 400 and up the vcore to 1.500 then I get these values (note the NB and the CPU PLL, they are still on auto..)


CPU: 1.496
CPU PLL: 1.632
FSB Termination: 1.456
DRAM: 2.368
NB: 1.632
SB: 1.072
SB 1.5: 1.536

Why do the NB and FSB T increase this much?

Also even though I select 1.5V CPU PLL, I cannot get below 1.61V when running 400MHz FSB

[Grnfinger]

hey, Grn ?

are these the ram sticks you have ??

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1196470792007

(model: TWIN2X2048-8500C5D)

since i have a 500$ bestbuy gift card, i'm looking for some different ram... im just not happy with my crucial's anymore..

how would you rate them?

Thats them, I am very satified with the ram and would recommend them to anyone. They have even done 4-4-4-12 @2.35 Altho I would not use that for 24 / 7 use

[miptzi]

I've finally managed to get the dreamed 3.6ghz in my Q6600.
400x9
just put Vcore 1.41, STRAP 400mhz, anb NB 1.5V
the biggest part of settings is AUTO

do you guys know if my 2x1gb Corsair XMS2 800mhz rev 5.2 / 5-5-5-12 at 1.9V can handle the clock of 1066????????

wich settings I should input to handle this OC???????

[ElEctric_EyE]

Anyone with a Q6600, I am noticing on BIOS startup screen that it's only seeing 2 cores. Didn't it used to say 4?
Vista 64 sees them and so does cpu-z. Maybe it's nothing to worry about?

[Leeghoofd]

thanks zen, but i mean when i change vcore in the BIOS, to say 1.400, when i enter windows and run cpuz or speedfan, i get a large deviation like 1.34 when idle, not under load, or if i enter 1.34 in bios i get 1.28 when idle, so if i want to get 1.4, it looks like ill have to increase vcore to like 1.5 or something, something is deff off

It's like Zen told ya it's Vdroop and without loadline calibration on, it will drop to an even lower level when loaded... eg my Q6600 needs 1.2 volts for 3ghz I need to set in maximus bios 1.2625 to get 1.21 volts under idle, when primed it drops to 1.2. for my Qx9650 even worse needs 1.38volts for 4ghz need to set 1.4750 to get it running smoothly...

[Leeghoofd]

It's been awhile since I'm using my 907. Should I upgrade to 1004 for my Q6600? It seems the 45nm has more benefits with this BIOS than the 65nm Quad and Dual.

If ya don't have any issues right now no need to upgrade the bios... I put it on for my 2 x 2Gb sticks and set Trfc to 60 as Tony suggested...

[Xilikon]

Glad I finally decided to buy a Maximus instead of waiting for a Rampage. I downloaded everything I need to flash back and forth between the two

Mine will be watercooled and I hope it will work better than my P5K-E which got tired of being stressed with 4 sticks and crapped the NB.

I will try to flash to Rampage and back to Maximus with 0907 version 2-3 times. If everything works, I can confirm so the OP can update the first post (it still have old informations which is confusing everyone now).

[zlojack]

Anyone with a Q6600, I am noticing on BIOS startup screen that it's only seeing 2 cores. Didn't it used to say 4?
Vista 64 sees them and so does cpu-z. Maybe it's nothing to worry about?

Does Coretemp see all 4?

[Kenski]

Anyone who tried a P5E to rampage with good results,
I'm really tempted by some posts of lower vcore, would get my QX overclock higher with less vdroop too.....

[andyr(uk)]

Anyone who tried a P5E to rampage with good results,
I'm really tempted by some posts of lower vcore, would get my QX overclock higher with less vdroop too.....

has that been done , didnt think that was the same board ?

[kup]

Yeah, P5E to Rampage works too. The second Ethernet won't work and there are a few other random things but as a whole the cross flash works.

[p2501]

Also even though I select 1.5V CPU PLL, I cannot get below 1.61V when running 400MHz FSB

It seems to be common for Maximus Formula, it likes to overvolt.

[Kenski]

May just give it a try over the long weekend,
The QX really deserves a better mobo than the stock P5E, that and the endless memory glitches/compatabilty with anything more than a modest overclock would've seen me changing the mobo soon anyway,
Thanks for the replies.

[Newms118]

t's like Zen told ya it's Vdroop and without loadline calibration on, it will drop to an even lower level when loaded... eg my Q6600 needs 1.2 volts for 3ghz I need to set in maximus bios 1.2625 to get 1.21 volts under idle, when primed it drops to 1.2. for my Qx9650 even worse needs 1.38volts for 4ghz need to set 1.4750 to get it running smoothly...

thanks again leeg. i guess i just feel a vcore of 1.34 is too much to get the q6600 at 3.2 ghz. i know i must need more though because with everything set auto except 9x355 FSB and 1.34 vcore, i get prime95 errors after 20 min.
under this load the vcore drops b/w 1.304 and 1.296. any other voltages i should adjust? my ram is running 1:1 at 10xx (1083 if i remember)

[Sources]

Well I was a bit bummed to, but he re assured me it was a fluke and to keep cranking these things out the volts. I ordered 2 2x1 kits and one kit came as a dual sided and the other as a single sided. I heard that the dual sided performed much better. He said he would exchange my defective one plus the other good single sided one for 2 new dual sided sticks.

Thats is GREAT customer service.

Thumbs up for CRUCIAL !!!
The Reps name was Brian.

@Sources:

damn that sucks! i cant believe your stick died seeing that your only pulling 912mhz and pushing 2.12 volts! i have the balistix and im pushing 2.26 volts @ 560MHz, mabye i should take a lesson from you ? :/

@Teko:

i had some nb/sb reading problems when i updated to the maximus rampage bios. a simple FULL uninstall and reinstall of everest fixed the problem. (make sure you backup your "Everest.ini" file before you do it if you have any custom settings...)
also, why not try the rampage bios ? everyone's been having amazing results...

[Spyrus]

CPU GTL from 0.63x had it in Maximus now is it worth for 0.67x?
Does it allow lower vcore? Some of you have done it already.

[Renegade5399]

Hey guys, heads up if you have DDR2 800 or 1066 Tracers 1GB sticks:

Link

Crucial has removed X38 and X48 from the compatible chipsets list for these sticks. Call them up yourself and ask them. On 3/7/08 the Engineering department invalidated the compatibility spec. The lady I had on the phone said she saw a "note in the system" dated 3/7/08 stating this.

[Renegade5399]

Having trouble with your DDR2 800 or 1066 Ballistix Tracers?

See here.