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    yes same here
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenEffect View Post
    mushkin hp-2 8500's
    i love this ram, right now im running @ 1200
    ram is rated to 1.35v and i a/b'd them against crucial ballistix pc-8500 *not tracers* and the mushkin pwned.
    im probably going to test some kingston hyper-x today so i will let you know how that goes.
    Are those the blue or black ones? You have a newegg link?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade5399 View Post
    Are those the blue or black ones? You have a newegg link?
    http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16820146720
    they are the blue ones, but if you have the cash, get the extremes. they are the black ones.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146677

    i got the blue *hp* modules because they were on special and had a $45 mail in rebate to bring the price to 45 bucks for 2 gigs... but i might pick up a set of these since i am looking for new ram.
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    Anyone have a link to bios 0217 bios ?? Got plenty of hangs today, when i tried to send some stuff over msn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbodream View Post
    Anyone have a link to bios 0217 bios ?? Got plenty of hangs today, when i tried to send some stuff over msn.
    Don't think there is a 0217? I've seen 0214 and 0219?


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    I noticed that the Maximus Formula has no tRC memory timing setting in the BIOS...I almost got tRFC confused with tRC in the BIOS and set tRFC to 35 thinking it was tRC...is there no tRC setting for me due to the G.Skill memory?...are the timings that show up in the BIOS dependant on what kind of memory/manufacturer you have?

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    but really... i guess you would have to call the manufacturer as there is too much involved to even begin to guess. i would just lower them until it becomes unstable then set it at the lowest stable voltage.
    my guess would be 1.8V as that's the nominal DDR2 voltage
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    Yeap no 0217 and please do not go off topic for those about discussing for memories.
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    interesting... i cant set performance level to 7 manually with pull ins disabled, setting to 6 causes a det ram error, putting it to 8 i can post and all is stable. enabling pull ins i can get pl6 at cas5 and pl5 at cas4. it appears that one has to apply the anandtech formula as it seems to be correct after plugging in all the numbers. there is no real guessing at this when the rules of the article are applied and you know your hardware, its just a matter of figuring out to turn on or off pull ins which im pretty sure is one way or the other dependant on strap. we should really read back through this and compile a table of sorts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grnfinger View Post
    I just got home from work, I had to leave early cause I'm (cough cough) sick

    Going to test some clocks and redo OS, still have the web pages wont refresh issue and Everest is being a not reporting any ram info.
    I installed some MS web via an update yesterday so that might be the cause of the web pages problem.
    CPUZ reports everything so I might just need a new version of everest.

    Going to post the main setup bios screen and maybe some pll can helpl with some ram settings

    please setting bios
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zucker2k View Post
    Just flashed back to MF bios 1004. When I first tried this bios some days back, all overclocks reverted to stock on post. This time around, it works!

    Anyway, this is 8x495, 8x498, 8x500 (E8400), with 1.51 VNB, PL7

    8x505 1.55 VNB PL7

    Edit: Full ram settings: 5-5-5-15-3-35-6-3-8-3-5-4-6-4-6

    Could someone run this identical settings in RF and let's see what the difference could possibly be? Thanks.
    I copied ALL your settings

    I set Clock Twister to Stronger, Dram Static To AUTO, PL = 7
    So lets Compare









    Why does my L2 Cache suck ass compared to yours?

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    Double post alert

    Looks like teh Rampage is slightly faster

    ( compare with Zucker2k using MF settings on page 18 )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoty View Post
    please setting bios
    Using bios 1004 here is are my 4.32GHz settings

    Extreme Tweaker
    Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
    OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
    CPU Ratio Control : Manual
    - Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
    FSB Frequency : 480
    FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
    PCI-E Frequency: 110
    DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1153
    DRAM Command Rate : 2T
    DRAM Timing Control: Manual
    CAS# Latency : 5
    RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
    RAS# Precharge : 5
    RAS# ActivateTime : 15
    RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
    Row Refresh Cycle Time : 35
    Write Recovery Time : 6
    Read to Precharge Time : 3

    Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
    Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
    Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
    Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
    Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
    Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
    Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
    DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
    Ai Clock Twister : Strong
    Transaction Booster : Disabled
    Relax level: 0

    CPU Voltage : 1.3875
    CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
    North Bridge Voltage : 1.47
    DRAM Voltage : 2.10
    FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
    South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
    Loadline Calibration : Enabled
    CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
    North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
    DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
    DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
    DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
    SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

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    Fantastic OC 4.32GHz on water at 1.3875 Vcore bios set. Thx for sharing.
    The template is using 1004 Bios right?
    Your sig shows you've updated the Bios to Rampage Formula SE Bios 0219.
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    Correct that is my Maximus 1004 bios settings

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenEffect View Post
    the only time i ever got aisuite to work was when i took the mobo out of the box for the first time and fired it up. ever since my 1st bios update, it has always crashed, even after completely reloading a fresh install.

    Quote Originally Posted by RobotDJX View Post
    yes same here
    Does this mean you both tried it with the 1004 bios and it failed?
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    Faster for me is PL8/Phases Enabled that PL7/Phases disabled.
    But i cannot use PL7/Phases enabled due to CAS 5 limitation at 450@5:6@540
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    [QUOTE=Grnfinger;2845316]Using bios 1004 here is are my 4.32GHz settings

    Extreme Tweaker
    Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
    OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
    CPU Ratio Control : Manual
    - Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
    FSB Frequency : 480
    FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
    PCI-E Frequency: 110
    DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1153
    DRAM Command Rate : 2T
    DRAM Timing Control: Manual
    CAS# Latency : 5
    RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
    RAS# Precharge : 5
    RAS# ActivateTime : 15
    RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
    Row Refresh Cycle Time : 35
    Write Recovery Time : 6
    Read to Precharge Time : 3

    Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
    Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
    Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
    Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
    Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
    Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
    Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
    DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
    Ai Clock Twister : Strong
    Transaction Booster : Disabled
    Relax level: 0

    CPU Voltage : 1.3875
    CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
    North Bridge Voltage : 1.47
    DRAM Voltage : 2.10
    FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
    South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
    Loadline Calibration : Enabled
    CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
    North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
    DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
    DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
    DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
    SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5[/QUOTE


    thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grnfinger View Post
    Double post alert

    Looks like teh Rampage is slightly faster

    ( compare with Zucker2k using MF settings on page 18 )
    @ Grnfinger: Clock Twister was on Auto for my runs on MF. I'm not behind my PC right now, but I'll run with it enabled to see what difference it makes tomorrow.

    My "write" and "copy" numbers are better than yours too. I'm sure I can duplicate your read numbers if I run everest tests a couple of times, instead of once. I also think clock twister enabled, will add a few more digits all around. I really want these results to sway me as to which bios to use; so I'll give you all the ram settings for the "secondary, as well as "tertiary" ram settings for the rampage. Could you run rams at these settings:

    5-5-5-15-3-35-6-3-8-3-5-4-6-4-6-14-5-1-5-5

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    Wonder if these to setting will help my overclocking or not ? Using a E8500.

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    Ok, one thing that I'm confused about is which phases to enable if I have the ram in the white slots and which if I have it in the blue slots? Anyone got any ideas? I want to try to get PL6 or PL7 with pulled up Phases so it's like PL6 and then lower the timings even more.

    How come you guys have a Write speed almost as high as your read speeds?


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    Quote Originally Posted by kup View Post
    Ok, one thing that I'm confused about is which phases to enable if I have the ram in the white slots and which if I have it in the blue slots? Anyone got any ideas? I want to try to get PL6 or PL7 with pulled up Phases so it's like PL6 and then lower the timings even more.

    How come you guys have a Write speed almost as high as your read speeds?
    they run a higher fsb than us.
    and try just enabling all of them.
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    How come their read and write speeds are nearly even and mine are not?



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    my newest numbers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zucker2k View Post
    @ Grnfinger: Clock Twister was on Auto for my runs on MF. I'm not behind my PC right now, but I'll run with it enabled to see what difference it makes tomorrow.

    My "write" and "copy" numbers are better than yours too. I'm sure I can duplicate your read numbers if I run everest tests a couple of times, instead of once. I also think clock twister enabled, will add a few more digits all around. I really want these results to sway me as to which bios to use; so I'll give you all the ram settings for the "secondary, as well as "tertiary" ram settings for the rampage. Could you run rams at these settings:

    5-5-5-15-3-35-6-3-8-3-5-4-6-4-6-14-5-1-5-5
    I will run them tomorrow and post the results

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    just reloaded my system again, and started from scratch making sure everything is 100&#37; stable. this is the best ive done yet for a stable system!



    5-5-5-18-3-50-6-3-8-3-5-4-6-46-14-5-1-5-5
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