The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[UnSeenSVK]

hallo mate can you explane me this?..


.i used same everest..shows 11C...

core temp 0.96.1 showing core 0 12C core 2 16 ....
when i running 3dmark06 core 0 shows... 17C and core 2... 16C

look

http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ddddui7.jpg

Sounds like a Penrn core and this is normal for any TM capable CPU's since P4 ^xx. This saves power and reduces heat at idle or light load.

2 methods can do this and one is more responsive then the other. 1) is TM1/2 w/ C1E & 2nd) is EIST (Intel branded thermal control; Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology).

EIST is BIOS and chipset controlled so it uses more system resorce and is slower in responding since it has to go through chipset and back. TM2+C1E (C+P State) is much quicker as it is on die and reacts almost seamlessy. Now C+P State only gives the low and high multi at any time, nevedr inbetween. Whereas EIST will step multi from low to high and so you will feel this lag as it steps .5 (for Penryn) each time 1 hole number for Conroe & Prescott).

So in CMOS, disable EIST and enable TM and C1E mode. If overclocked, ASUS ACPI BIOS will automatically disable EIST for you as it is known to be unstable at FSB over 400 anyways. (Only Penryn 1600's will utilize this at 400FSB right now.

Now ASUS does not fully comply to C+P State as it is designed when you take vcore and multi out of AUTO. This is where the vcore would reduce to match the multi when idle or light load. But reducing at least the multi will reduce some heat and wear too.

I went more into this for all so others wll have a better understanding of C Stete and P State functions for ACPI (Advanced Configuration Power Interface).

If in the end, you want fixed multi, then just disable C1E wich reads the VID and Ratio from TM table off CPU. Now it can run full throttle but still have overheat protection of TM (Thermal Management). In this mode, CPU ratio will only reduce n case of high heat to protect itself and or allow you to enter S4 or power down.

Hope this helps!

[icecpu]

Can some one tell me what is the safe temp for the maximus northbridge , my show at 54C , Voltage is at 1.55,thanks

[M-XXXX]

And my overclock on this mobo:
http://shrani.si/?46/d8/2GRgwoEA/4ghz.png
(i have inserted picture, but it doesn't work)

[Lestat]

And my overclock on this mobo:
http://shrani.si/?46/d8/2GRgwoEA/4ghz.png
(i have inserted picture, but it doesn't work)

it doesnt work cuz your picture is too large. if you read the little warning that comes up it clearly states the file your trying to upload is too large.
its a png file @ 500kb.
pictures can only be 200kb

save it as a jpg and resize it since the picture doesnt need to be your entire desktop nor 1280x1024

[M-XXXX]

I will remember this! (I thought it just make link to picture from the internet- I'm used this from other forums)
Its still in png, but is under 200kb

[ZenEffect]

anyone try flashing to the rampage formula bios? i see that the beta is up on the asus website but im a too skirred to try myself... im wondering if anyone else has had success with this

[bro20000]

Hi have just got this board and i wanted to know whats the different between a rev 1.02g and a 1.03g! Have got the 1.03g and my friends got the 1.02g!

[Eastcoasthandle]

i used same everest..shows 11C...

core temp 0.96.1 showing core 0 12C core 2 16 ....
when i running 3dmark06 core 0 shows... 17C and core 2... 16C

look

http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ddddui7.jpg

The problem apparently is starting to getting recognition. Remember, you are not the only one with this problem. Do a google search using the words "E8400 temperature problem" and see what comes up

Hi have just got this board and i wanted to know whats the different between a rev 1.02g and a 1.03g! Have got the 1.03g and my friends got the 1.02g!

1.02g = motherboard with waterblock on north bridge chipset
1.03g = motherboard with regular copper heat sink on north bridge chipset
from what I know.

[iadstudio]

anyone try flashing to the rampage formula bios? i see that the beta is up on the asus website but im a too skirred to try myself... im wondering if anyone else has had success with this

With a non-removable bios chip it will take a brave person to try this.

[Orbitech]

Ok I couldn't wait so I purchased myself a G0 and put it in my Formula..

I'm using the following settings in the bios for 3.6GHz

BIOS 907

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 120
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-961
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 6
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 42
Write Recovery Time : 7
Read to Precharge Time : 7

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) :Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : light
Transaction Booster : disabled
Relax level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.4000
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.70
North Bridge Voltage : 1.71
DRAM Voltage : 2.20
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.50
South Bridge Voltage : 1.200
Loadline Calibration : Enabled

CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-Ref
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto


NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled


I ran SPI 32M and 2 hrs prime and it seemed to be stable. Then tonight I noticed my temps at core 0/1 were bigger than core 2/3 and after a SPI32m it produced an error.. Especially core 0 can reach 10-12Celcius higher than core 2/3. Core 1 is 5-6Celcious higher than core 2/3.. The fact is that cpu0 which depicts by far the higher idle/load temp is the only one that causes the instability even at 1.4vcore.. It reaches at 75C-78C sometimes and of course causes instability, while the other cores don't have problems whatsoever. Cpu1 reaches max 70-71 cpu2/3 max 68-69..

I tried to up the vcore to 1.425 and 1.45 but it only made cpu0 reach 75-78C quicker.. So the problem seems not to be the vcore but the hight temp that only this core depicts under load..

So what do you think is the case here? Do I need to test something else in the settings? Or are we talking about a uneven cpu surface? It could also be my Ultra 120 extreme that has the problem..

What do you suggest me to do in order to reach a stable 3.6GHz O/C?

[v3rax]

I bought an open box Maximus Formula from a local retailer.

The BIOS it had on it was the 907... I could not change any settings in the GURU without getting a NO POST.

SO...I thought maybe a bad bios flash, so I downgraded to the 903....NOW, I can OC all I want, everything worked great to OC manually.

So.... I upgraded to the 907 again, flashed it the same way as the 903 that worked, .....NOW, I can't get it to post if I change anyting in the OC section of the BIOS.

Any ideas why the 907 will not let me even raise the FSB to 375 without a no post, yet the 903 will allow me to OC to 3.6..??

[FZ1]

I bought an open box Maximus Formula from a local retailer.

The BIOS it had on it was the 907... I could not change any settings in the GURU without getting a NO POST.

SO...I thought maybe a bad bios flash, so I downgraded to the 903....NOW, I can OC all I want, everything worked great to OC manually.

So.... I upgraded to the 907 again, flashed it the same way as the 903 that worked, .....NOW, I can't get it to post if I change anyting in the OC section of the BIOS.

Any ideas why the 907 will not let me even raise the FSB to 375 without a no post, yet the 903 will allow me to OC to 3.6..??

What are your components? I used 0903 and 0907 and didn't see any differences in performance, temps, etc

[v3rax]

I have an e8400, HIS HD3870, Ballistix PC6400 (2gb), PC P&C 750w silencer

Im guess if there is no difference It wont really matter if the 907 works, but I am just curious why the 903 will aloow me to do whatever I want in the BIOS and it boots fine, but when I put the 907 on, I can't post if I change anything at all..... the 907 will bott up and run fine as long as I keep it set to "load defaults" but as soon as I try to change anything in it, "NO POST"

I flashed the 907 the exact same way I flashed the 903, so I don't think it would be a bad flash...and I have tried the 907 I downloaded from the ASUS site and the one that is listed at the beginning of this forum, both did the same thing.

[arfett]

907 BIOS
12 hours prime (64 bit version) stable on blend and small fft tests


Here's a 10 hour run on blend. When I first got this chip it primed 12 hours but I didn't take any shots of it. I'll update with a pic of small fft for 10-12 hours when I prime again.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : 9
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: AUTO
5-5-5-15

DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Disabled. Relax 1.

Since my board overvolts/undervolts a lot of settings I will list the actual voltage the board gives rather than the setting I put it on:
CPU Voltage : 1.352
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.610
North Bridge Voltage : 1.5
DRAM Voltage : 2.35
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.46
South Bridge Voltage : 1.1
Loadline Calibration : Enabled. without this on I was getting .3 vdroop drops!
CPU GTL Reference : .63
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.55

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Disabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled (enabling this makes prime 95 fail all cores in under 60 seconds!!!)
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

[arfett]

So what do you think is the case here? Do I need to test something else in the settings? Or are we talking about a uneven cpu surface? It could also be my Ultra 120 extreme that has the problem..

What do you suggest me to do in order to reach a stable 3.6GHz O/C?

Your northbridge voltage is looking REALLY high to me and might be adding to the heat around the CPU. I have 1.5v running through my NB and it runs 400mhz just fine. I'm also assuming you're using DDR2-800 ram, you might want to try running it at 800mhz for a while and see if you still fail the stress tests. Prime95 the system for at least 8 hours and if it passes then you know the RAM was being pushed too far.

[UnSeenSVK]

HALLO MATES ..CAN Somebody help me?..

i can t change in bios mhz of ram..there is only 800mhz..1000MHZ...934mhz...and 1111MHZ...but i wanna change to 1200MHZ...where can i find it?..

[arfett]

HALLO MATES ..CAN Somebody help me?..

i can t change in bios mhz of ram..there is only 800mhz..1000MHZ...934mhz...and 1111MHZ...but i wanna change to 1200MHZ...where can i find it?..

Change the FSB strap to northbridge. Each strap has different settings for RAM speed. If you can't find what you're looking for you'll need to lower or raise your FSB.

[Wolf2000me]

What's the usual threashold for northbridge temperature on this board?

[eSp!s0]

I tested C1 and EIST last days and I can say, that EIST does nothing, when VCore is set manually. And C1 does clockrates down by using smallest multiplicator in Idle.
But lowering VCore does not work with VCore set manually.
All in all you can say, that EIST is useless when OCing. C1 lowering multiplicator does even work with 500x7 for me and I`m using it while OCing, no problems.

[WFO]

Here are my settings for 417 X 9. So far it's 48 hours folding stable. I tried 423 X 9 and it would boot to Windows but failed prime95 immediately. I would have had to use over 1.5 vcore for stability. That was more than I wanted to put through it for 24/7 use. Core temps, 44,45,44 & 42. NB 30C. Ambient 70F.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 417
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 103
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1002
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto
Secondary Info 8-3-5-4-6-4-6
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled relax level 0
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.475 Bios 1.456 Windows
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50 Bios 1.61 due to overvolting
North Bridge Voltage : 1.43
DRAM Voltage : 1.96
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.100
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference :
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Enabled
Execute Disable Bit : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Auto

[Robin77]

Can some one tell me what is the safe temp for the maximus northbridge , my show at 54C , Voltage is at 1.55,thanks

It's around 96 C. I posted in this threat a link to original Intel thermal design spec sheet, whre you can find this value. I habe 69 C unloaded and around 76 loaded. This are values from 100% stable overcloced. So your NB temps are pretty good and u needn't care.

[Grnfinger]

It's around 96 C. I posted in this threat a link to original Intel thermal design spec sheet, whre you can find this value. I habe 69 C unloaded and around 76 loaded. This are values from 100% stable overcloced. So your NB temps are pretty good and u needn't care.

Your NB idles at 69c???
personaly I would care ALOT unless your looking to replace that mobo in June

I would rather hear what Asus has to say on the NB temps not Intel

[WFO]

Your NB idles at 69c???
personaly I would care ALOT unless your looking to replace that mobo in June

I would rather hear what Asus has to say on the NB temps not Intel

Agreed. If you read this thread (item 3) http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=162085 , you would know that Anantech (raju) found that over 47C on the NB caused instabilities. Having read Raju's posts on many boards, I would not question his conclusions.

[Mauri Antero]

So far I'm frustrated to board since it wont go over 536fsb no matter what i do, that isnt the cpu that blocks me there since I've tried my e6850 with ss and dryice and 8400 pros and 536fsb is the max to get.
Otherwise nice mobo

[nut311]

I found Maximus 1.03G mix with Crucial 8500 my board doesn't work 1200mhz mem speed, i try vdimm 2.45v 1200 5-5-5-15 system freeze

any advice? what BIOS maximus good for OC ?