**Official DFI LanParty UT P35-T2R Review/Overclock/Guide Thread**

[C-N]

what multi did you use?

7 to start then 8 when it died.

[fireice2]

ouch

i guess its dangerous to venture into 600fsb.

[Tancoll]

What CPU?

Try some clock gen voltage 3.60 3.75 also play with the GTL's would be my guess.

One E8400 and one E6850.
The last one did 540 on air with the previous owner

CPU.

Doubt that.
2 CPU's exacly the same place.

[mrcape]

Be careful with the wolf guys, I don't know if I just got unlucky or what but I had a nice E8400 & it lasted 6 hours @ 600fsb then it went super nova & I never had it over 1.4v.

CN

$hit! How the hell could it die with only 1.4v?

[CERO]

Is this board better then the X38 version?

[CERO]

Before i get this board I need to know , When I mount the TRUE vertical ( and yes I need to mount this way for the best performance) it would hit the stock NB cooler, so I want to replace the Stock NB with a Thermalright HR-05 IFX or IFX/SLI, the SLI probbly would hit the GFX as I need to use the main PCI-E for 16x lane that would not help, but how about the NON SLI? would that work without hitting the Thermalright-120 Extreme?

[turtletrax]

@turtletrax: bro can you post your bios settings on that please...Thanks!

Dude! That's great, I bet it feels good to find stability that low vcore. I'm still jumping all over the place with quick tests and trying for fast superpi 1m before I lock it down.

So what were all of the final voltage settings to get that stable? Did you manually set the sub timings or leave it all at auto? What about the fine clock fine delay, did you mess with that?

If you have the time I'd love to see your bios.

Thanks Turtle!

I will Be back with settings in a little bit guys

Be careful with the wolf guys, I don't know if I just got unlucky or what but I had a nice E8400 & it lasted 6 hours @ 600fsb then it went super nova & I never had it over 1.4v.

CN

Sorry to hear that C-N....

E8500: January 25th 2008 - Jaunary 25th 2008

[GripS]

Before i get this board I need to know , When I mount the TRUE vertical ( and yes I need to mount this way for the best performance) it would hit the stock NB cooler, so I want to replace the Stock NB with a Thermalright HR-05 IFX or IFX/SLI, the SLI probbly would hit the GFX as I need to use the main PCI-E for 16x lane that would not help, but how about the NON SLI? would that work without hitting the Thermalright-120 Extreme?

It DOES fit vertically. You just need to have it rotated correctly. If you have it mounted veritcally and the heat pipe is hitting the NB flip it around. Worked for me anyway.

[karateo]

Does anyone know when a new official bios is going to be released?
I need the beta's features (new VTT tables) but on an official bios in case something goes wrong (warranty).

I really want to play with my E8400 but my bios keeps me back on finding stable settings.
I have only found max boot fsb 560 until now.

[MikeMK]

Yup, I would like to know exactly the same thing. My QX9650 just arrived, and i cant decide whether to try the beta, or stick with the last official.

[soundx98]

Is there a blank template for the Bios someone can link to?
What is the preferred program for stability testing? Orthos? Prime95v255?
Prime 95 under processes (CPU time) shows twice the real elapsed time.
Cause of the Dual cores I would imagine.
Custom 800MB for each 1G stick?

Appears to me that the latest Everest versions show the most accurate and complete temp/voltage information (and it corresponds with CoreTemp 0.96.1.)

Air-Cooled (you can call me a pansy) with the Zalman 9700 I have Core 1 running about 10 degrees hotter than Core 2.
Remount HSF or is this common to have?

Definitely all about the GTLs for me (60, 59, 60 NB) and tRFC at 36 (40 wasn't stable for me). 5-5-5-15 and almost everything else on AUTO.

4400MHz with CPU-z validation
http://premium1.uploadit.org/soundx9...00Verified.JPG

4300MHz runs great but Core 1 craps out after an hour (heat probably) while Core 2 keeps chugging along for hours (aborted it after 4/8)
http://premium1.uploadit.org/soundx98//4300-Detail.JPG

Super Pi at 11 secs
http://premium1.uploadit.org/soundx98//SuperPi.JPG

Ran the rig overnight for 8 hours at 4300 looping a movie.
No issues at all and very responsive.

I would bet I'll wind up at 4200MHz 24 hour stable unless I can lick the heat issue on Core 1.
I'll try and post an SS later.

So far I am really impressed by the E8400's performance.

I also think the Everest Stress is pretty nifty for monitoring temps
http://premium1.uploadit.org/soundx9...tress-Test.JPG

I wouldn't worry about flashing the 109 Bios at this point.
I couldn't even get into the Bios without flashing to it and the Tmod/Loggan CD did a superb job of making it easy for me.
http://csd.dficlub.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1525
hats off to those oldfahts

Pick up a spare Bios Chip (much cheaper than a CPU) and keep an Official Bios on it in Case of Armageddon.
Great idea to have one of the around anyway with a DFI board.
(plus a Rosary, prayer shawl, and a couple of Nuns)

Thanks for all the words of encouragement.
(Campbell I got so much wood I could poke your eye out from here)

My Command Rate is at 2T instead of 1T.
Did I miss a setting?

[C-N]

Is there a blank template for the Bios someone can link to?
What is the preferred program for stability testing? Orthos? Prime95v255?

DIY Street style OCDB template attached.

I use OCCT for quick testing & Prime for the long runs.

CN

[soundx98]

Not only getting senile but seem to be going blind as well

Thanks much for the help C-N

[Praz]

Carl

Prime95 version 25.6d. This version fixes the load sharing issue and the labled thread corresponds to the actual core.

2T is where it's at for Intel chipsets. To run 1T with any appreciable ram speed will require more NB and memory voltage then most are willing to use.

[Delirious]

I have the e8400 and just purchased this board and it wont post. Here is what i posted on the DFI forums and they basically suggested i get a 65nm cpu to get it to boot and then flash or get a new cmos chip thats already been flashed.

Anyone know where i can get a new cmos chip with the latest bios?

Here is what i posted:

i just purchased this motherboard and recieved it yesterday, however its hooked up to my test bed now and refuses to even post. It just goes into an endless power cycle with a post code of 1b.

Test bed consists of:

Intel e8400
x800xl
520w ocz powersteam
generic floppy
WD 20GB pata
plextor plexwrite cdr drive
Gskill 4GBPQ (2x2GB)

The mobo and parts are setup outside of a computer case.

Tried:

only using one stick of memory, tried each stick seperately in all 4 slots.

clearing the bios for 30 min to 60 min several times (removed battery and unplugged power cable).

A different power supply, seasonic m12 700w.

Put the x800xl in the second x16 slot instead of the first slot.

Removing stock intel HS and reseating the CPU.

Checked all jumpers on the board to make sure they were in the right place.

The only thing i can think to try next is borrow another stick of ddr2 from a friend and see if that works.

Any suggestions?

[C-N]

I have the e8400 and just purchased this board and it wont post. Here is what i posted on the DFI forums and they basically suggested i get a 65nm cpu to get it to boot and then flash or get a new cmos chip thats already been flashed.

Anyone know where i can get a new cmos chip with the latest bios?

Brother Esau can probably help you out with the chip pm him.

If you like to live dangerously (like me / too impatient) you could hot flash your BIOS chip in another board.

CN

[mrcape]

Hey C-N is your 8400 definitely dead?

http://www.ocxtreme.org/forumenus/sh...9&postcount=52

[C-N]

Hey C-N is your 8400 definitely dead?

http://www.ocxtreme.org/forumenus/sh...9&postcount=52

As a do do.

I got another one today, not quite so good but close enough 4 me.

The funny thing is that first one ran hot compared to this one either that or its a BIOS thing as I was on 1224 with the last one & I'm on 0109 now

CN

[Brother Esau]

John whats that funky stand for your DMM that you posted that one time?

[Praz]

John whats that funky stand for your DMM that you posted that one time?

The SMD probe? They can be bought from AG Devices.

[Sepander]

FSB testing. I dont wanna push it too much.

[BlueAqua]

Had some more fun tonight, didn't break any records, need better cooling for that.


Q745A372
Max FSB, boot from bios.


Nice and stable 595Mhz FSB.


Max Mhz.


Setup:

[turtletrax]

Here is my settings for my low voltage run @4.05Ghz.


Anything not listed was run default setting.

>CPU Feature:
 
Thermal Management Control.......... - Disabled
PPM(EIST) Mode...................... - Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal.................. - Disabled
CIE Function........................ - Disabled
Execute Disable Bit................. - Enabled
Virtualization Technology........... - Enabled
Core Multi-Processing............... - Enabled
 
>DRAM Timing:
 

CAS Latency Time (tCL).............. - 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD)........... - 5
RAS# Precharge (tRP)................ - 5
Precharge Delay (tRAS).............. - 15
All Precharge to Act................ - Auto
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC)............. - Auto
Performance Level................... - Auto



MCH ODT Latency..................... - Auto
Write to PRE Delay (tWR)............ - Auto
Rank Write to Read (tWTR)........... - Auto
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)............. - Auto
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)......... - Auto
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)........ - Auto
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD).......... - Auto
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)......... - Auto
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP).......... - Auto
ALL PRE to Refresh.................. - Auto

>Voltage Settings:
 
CPU VID Control..................... - 1.26250v
CPU VID Special Add................. - Auto
DRAM Voltage Control................ - 2.15v
SB 1.05V Voltage.................... - 1.070v
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage............. - 1.55v
NB Core Voltage..................... - 1.57v
CPU VTT Voltage..................... - 1.25v
Vcore Droop Control................. - Disabled
Clockgen Voltage Control............ - 3.45v
GTL+ Buffers Strength............... - Strong
Host Slew Rate...................... - Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control............. - Enabled
CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt................. - 71
CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt................ - 70
North Bridge GTL REF Volt........... - 70
 
Genie BIOS Settings:
 
Exist Setup Shutdown................ - Mode 2
Shutdown after AC loss.............. - Disabled
O.C. Retry fail counter............. - 0
CLOCK VC0 divider................... - Auto
CPU Clock Ratio Unlock.............. - Enabled
CPU Clock Ratio..................... - 9
Target CPU Clock.................... - 4050MHz
CPU Clock........................... - 450
Boot Up Clock....................... - Auto
DRAM Speed.......................... - 333/800
Target DRAM Speed................... - 1080MHz
PCIE Clock.......................... - 105mhz
PCIE Slot Config.................... - 1x 1x
CPU Spread Spectrum................. - Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum................ - Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum................ - Disabled

[kberguy1]

I was able to install the replacement Corsair PC-10000 memory and get it working right away. Kudu's to Corsair for replacing my PC-9136 memory with the top PC-10000 kit at no cost. I also want to thank everyone for the suggestions they posted for me.

The new memory is currently at 544 MHz using 5-5-5-5-12 timings and 2.23 vDIMM. I have left most of the other settings for DRAM timings on auto, and know I can get a more performance once the memory is "dialed in".

It looks like this memory will help me get my Q6600 above 3400 MHz on air. I am an hour into testing with Prime95 at 3480 MHz (435 x 8) and I am quite happy with that.

Unfortunately, I am a bit of a newbie when it comes to sorting out memory timings. What memory timings have the biggest impact on performance? What do you change first? What timings/voltage should I be able to run with these?

Does anyone have experience with this memory and the DFI P35 UT motherboard? If so, what settings were you able to use?

My new E8500 processor is supposed to arrive by next weekend, and I hope to get a much better overclock from it. Here's hoping I get one from a good batch...

At least with only one stepping produced we don't have to worry about whether the mail order places are sending out the "right" one.

[pumbertot]

unfortunately I had to sell this board as it just wont play with this QX9650 ES
clocks like crap. hoping the SIIF is better with it.