My retail 45nm Wolfdales - E8200 + E8400

**LagunaX** · 01-12-2008, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by Glow9

What does es mean?

Can you say noob?

Ribbing aside, ES = Experimental Sample prior to retail release not to be sold to the general public.

In this forum it sometimes means "Extra Special" cherry picked processor too...

**Kain665** · 01-12-2008, 12:07 AM

Erm... who is the noob? It's "Engineering Sample"

**LagunaX** · 01-12-2008, 12:10 AM

Originally Posted by Kain665

Erm... who is the noob? It's "Engineering Sample"

Haha you caught my senior moment...my e6750ES isn't that special either...

**revogamer** · 01-12-2008, 12:13 AM

one of the retailers here in nz have gotten there E8200 4Ghz

- Got an E8200 running on an IP35 Pro @ 500x8 (1.3275v)

[stock QX9650 hsf]

http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?i...glecardbg6.jpg

**godsfist** · 01-12-2008, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by Kain665

OP: Notice the stepping on that first chip is SLAPP... hm...

Hmmmm.. I have SLAPL

**godsfist** · 01-12-2008, 12:29 AM

Originally Posted by Kain665

Erm... who is the noob? It's "Engineering Sample"

In my experience it means "Excessive Speculation"

**~~OBR~~** · 01-12-2008, 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by revogamer

one of the retailers here in nz have gotten there E8200 4Ghz

- Got an E8200 running on an IP35 Pro @ 500x8 (1.3275v)

[stock QX9650 hsf]

http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?i...glecardbg6.jpg

is it Orthos stable? I bet no!

**revogamer** · 01-12-2008, 01:05 AM

nzbleach here on xs got one of them, hes testing it now and i think he did get it orthos stable, but he still ran 06 with only 1.33v so if its not stable yet, it should be stable with more.

**CERO** · 01-12-2008, 02:45 AM

Originally Posted by jas420221

As long as the new quads (Q9450 really) see 3.6Ghz+ on air, Im all over it.

I woudnt give to much hopes on 3.6+ ghz on air, since it comes in the first place with a 8x multiplier, second limitation is the FSB wall, I saw some ES chips that are walled around 460fsb, just like the Q6600 , of course we need to see some retail results.

**nzbleach** · 01-12-2008, 03:22 AM

retail E8200 prime stable for 30 mins on blend. Havent primed any longer.

**railmeat** · 01-12-2008, 03:30 AM

Originally Posted by OBR

i can run every benches at 4050MHz ... but not Orthos stable

what good is that then?not to sound rude...

**Infa** · 01-12-2008, 05:43 AM

well not everything need the be "super stable delux orthos mega" hehe

sure its a great point where u can see what the cpu are stable as, but if you can loop 3dmark several times, play game like COD4, crysis , use your computer all day long without crash, then it seems stable to me

orthos and prime are strange sometimes, and BSOD shortly even though you have done all above..

**Polizei** · 01-12-2008, 07:40 AM

Originally Posted by Chewbenator

So it seems that the clocks are all over the place, as expected. There were alot of great Conroes out of the group that were there during release week. My e6400 can barely do 3.2Ghz stable, others even with the same batch number could hit 3.6-3.8.

I ordered my E6600 on release day. It will do 3.4GHz on 1.55v 24/7 stable, but anything much over that and it putters out. 385-390 seems to by my FSB wall no matter what voltage, on air.

**LagunaX** · 01-12-2008, 05:40 PM

HEY OBR,

I got a mediocre e8400 like you - can't do 4ghz orthos stable.
However, can do 3.8-3.9ghz orthos stable.
3.6ghz on stock volts.
Gets quite hot even at 1.45v during testing...

Need to get an aussie chip...=(

**Capt Proton** · 01-12-2008, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by Infa

well not everything need the be "super stable delux orthos mega" hehe

sure its a great point where u can see what the cpu are stable as, but if you can loop 3dmark several times, play game like COD4, crysis , use your computer all day long without crash, then it seems stable to me

orthos and prime are strange sometimes, and BSOD shortly even though you have done all above..

It is either stable or it isn't. It's like pregnancy. She either is or isn't, no half way.

**AriciU** · 01-12-2008, 07:35 PM

Who cares about Orthos stable really? It's not like you get this CPU's to "play" Orthos or think about "hmm... i'm bored... let's start up some Orthos" anyway. Your CPU will never get stressed in real life like it does with Orthos so no point in going for lower clocks just to get it "orthos stable".

**rge** · 01-12-2008, 07:46 PM

Well this is starting to suck... few months ago, psyched to get a penryn quad, but with 8 or 8.5 multi's and limited FSB, thats a total waste unless I want to take up the sport of video encoding.

Then maybe the E8500 and get 4.2+... and now thats iffy. I might still gamble $300 on E8500, though would just be for fun, performance wise I am likely to end up with zilch.

I wonder if amd was competitive if we would have 9 multis on some of the cheaper (penryn) quads like the (9x on the) q6600.

**dogsx2** · 01-12-2008, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by rge

I wonder if amd was competitive if we would have 9 multis on some of the cheaper quads like the q6600.

**dogsx2** · 01-12-2008, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by AriciU

Who cares about Orthos stable really? It's not like you get this CPU's to "play" Orthos or think about "hmm... i'm bored... let's start up some Orthos" anyway. Your CPU will never get stressed in real life like it does with Orthos so no point in going for lower clocks just to get it "orthos stable".

QFT

**g1raffe** · 01-12-2008, 08:05 PM

Ouch, feel sorry for some of you guys getting bad retail E8400's, 4ghz stable is nothing for mine, needs 1.35V, and that seems higher than most other people with retail E8400's that I have seen..

**rge** · 01-12-2008, 08:08 PM

I like seeing orthos stable because it is the only way to objectively prove to others it is a usable overclock.

I can throw up a superpi run at 4.3+ and claim I am gaming for hours without crashes with it. And maybe I am and maybe I am not, who knows.

Thats not to say I dont like seeing max fsb and max OC, that is interesting to see and test as well. But I also like to see max possible 24/7 settings, and that is best objectively shown to others by orthos, prime stable.

**rge** · 01-12-2008, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by dogsx2

Ok, that did not come out quite right, I meant maybe we would have 9x on cheaper penryns, like the 9 multiplier on q6600.

**ziddey** · 01-12-2008, 10:07 PM

I think the biggest problem with penryn is that people are expecting it to do well now. Not in a year when things mature a bit. By then, no one will really care that much about one that'll do 4.5ghz with 1.36v anymore. That is, is nehalem is a success.

**godsfist** · 01-12-2008, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by g1raffe

Ouch, feel sorry for some of you guys getting bad retail E8400's, 4ghz stable is nothing for mine, needs 1.35V, and that seems higher than most other people with retail E8400's that I have seen..

Jesus G1raffe I'm in Melbourne too and bought 3 E8400's trying to get 4GHz stable

By the way what does CPU-Z say your Vcore is when you have 1.35V in the bios?

**Speederlander** · 01-12-2008, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by godsfist

Jesus G1raffe I'm in Melbourne too and bought 3 E8400's trying to get 4GHz stable

By the way what does CPU-Z say your Vcore is when you have 1.35V in the bios?

This is why you don't buy the first silicon off the line...

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