Good design, good overclock, good pipe-The MSI P35 Neo2-FR overview

[wyemarn]

Anandtech just reviewed this board.

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3169

Not bad considering the price.

[NickS]

Mines extremely stable.. see sig for settings. I love the board so far. It's been great!

[ownage]

Mines extremely stable.. see sig for settings. I love the board so far. It's been great!

I just got mine up and running, second boot 9x445fsb and booting into windows with my e6600. No vdroop, not even a bit
I still use the stock 1.3v bios, so i think its not bad for only 10minutes of experience with this board.


I changed the overclocking jumpers on the motherboard from 333strap to 266strap. Now performance isn't even that bad. although i would have preferred to have this as an bios option instead of changing jumpers.

[jon5]

Is 266 the best place to set the strap jumpers for overclocking? I have this board on the way the egg.

[NickS]

I have them @ 333, haven't played much.

[AndrewZorn]

I just bought one of these... what's the advantage of moving over the jumper?

[HDF_Aeronautica]

HI!!
I have this mobo for 2 weeks and I am really very agreeable. Is accompanied by an e4400, and although I have cooler stock I could do 333x10 very easily. And now I have it running 266x10 with 1.175v.

Les story that makes 2 weeks that I have Intel, come from a mother with AthlonXP VIA chipset

The negative:
1-Double booting annoying
2-Unable to lower the vcore unless 1.175v
3-Cant change the last digit of timmings to less than 9 (x-x-x-9).
4- Missing memory ratio 4:3 or 1:1,33
5-At overcome think that the 300, fsb voltage of NB automatically rises to 1.45vy can not get off (re-set)

Nothing important about what gives this mobo for money that is (here in argentina U$S S162, the same as P5N-E SLI or P6N-SLI)

Now a question:
I have doubts as to the operation of Jumpers and its necessity in the OC. If I change the strap to 266 my micro stari in 2666mhz? Excuse my ignorance.

I wish to comment that I have read that there is a limit fsb for each position of the jumper of strap, to which there is a significant drop in performance. I believe that with the strap at 200, the limit is on 380, fsb, 266 limit around 450 bus.
Here is developed in a little more detail:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mai...latinum_8.html

Perhaps here is the advantage of the strap jumpers not?

PS 1: is my first post
PD 2: forgive my poor English

[@rne]

I just bought one of these... what's the advantage of moving over the jumper?

If you have set the jumper to 266Mhz, the performance decreases when you are over ~430Mhz FSB.

I've tested the Board here, klick for a chart to compare the jumper results:
click!

[jon5]

Nice work Arne. Looks like 333 is the best.

[AndrewZorn]

If you have set the jumper to 266Mhz, the performance decreases when you are over ~430Mhz FSB.

I've tested the Board here, klick for a chart to compare the jumper results:
click!

wow, i didnt expect the answer to be so simple... thanks
cant wait til thursday... new PSU, new ram, new watercooling setup. right after a new video card. with a new CPU, i'd basically have a new computer... which i am thinking about selling this B3 and getting a G0. after i lap it and put it on water if im still getting piss-poor overclocks i will.

[@rne]

Thanks guys, no problem

And a max FSB of 550Mhz with only 1,35V VTT FSB and 1,45V NB isn't that bad huh?
click!

[ownage]

Thanks guys, no problem

And a max FSB of 550Mhz with only 1,35V VTT FSB and 1,45V NB isn't that bad huh?
click!

Nice review!
I didn't expect a performance drop because you choose to use the 266strap with a jumper
I'm just below 530fsb, my memory is holding me back

[clon22]

Thanks guys, no problem

And a max FSB of 550Mhz with only 1,35V VTT FSB and 1,45V NB isn't that bad huh?
click!

Wow! Neat...

[clon22]

Juz a an 8800GTS/512 to test.
Testing my E4300 on it.
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3..._3d06_stoc.jpg
This board is good.
I'm still using v1.1 bios currently.
Which versions do you guys like so far.

[monographix]

1.
I got this board and i placed an 8800GTX in the white PCIE slot thinking that this is the 16x (#1) and the card was crawling at 9fps in 3dmark06 WTH ... i went to bios and changed the PCIEx4 speed controller from auto to 4x and disabled "Auto Disable DIMM/PCI Frequency" and 3dmark06 run 85-35 fps showing normal function

Is there a chance that the physical 16x is the yellow one ???


2.
with any bios version above 1.3 the CPU (Q6600) voltage options in the cell menu start from 1.300v, the only bios from the ones i tried (1.3, 1.4, 1.5, 1.6, 1.76) that gives correct values in this field is v1.3 . The actual voltage the CPU receives seems to be right (aprox 1.260?), looks like its just the menu options that are labeled wrong, for example the 1.300 option corresponds to 1.252-1.272 of actual voltage. Again, WTH?


3.
I have two sata drives. Is it normal that in AHCI mode they are detected only in two of the four ports? ("3" & "4" i think)


4.
Also, is there a way to get rid off the annoying USB scan beeps on POST ?
And is it possible maybe to disable (or selectively disable) those usb checks anyway altogether ? (or speed them up. i have lots of usb stuff on)

[wyemarn]

Juz a an 8800GTS/512 to test.
Testing my E4300 on it.
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3..._3d06_stoc.jpg
This board is good.
I'm still using v1.1 bios currently.
Which versions do you guys like so far.

Nice chip you got there. I've no problems hitting more than 500mhz FSB for this board.

[ownage]

Juz a an 8800GTS/512 to test.
Testing my E4300 on it.
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3..._3d06_stoc.jpg
This board is good.
I'm still using v1.1 bios currently.
Which versions do you guys like so far.

W00t, nice e4300.
Thats how i like it

[NickS]

1.
I got this board and i placed an 8800GTX in the white PCIE slot thinking that this is the 16x (#1) and the card was crawling at 9fps in 3dmark06 WTH ... i went to bios and changed the PCIEx4 speed controller from auto to 4x and disabled "Auto Disable DIMM/PCI Frequency" and 3dmark06 run 85-35 fps showing normal function

Is there a chance that the physical 16x is the yellow one ???

Top one is 16x.


2.
with any bios version above 1.3 the CPU (Q6600) voltage options in the cell menu start from 1.300v, the only bios from the ones i tried (1.3, 1.4, 1.5, 1.6, 1.76) that gives correct values in this field is v1.3 . The actual voltage the CPU receives seems to be right (aprox 1.260?), looks like its just the menu options that are labeled wrong, for example the 1.300 option corresponds to 1.252-1.272 of actual voltage. Again, WTH?

That's just vdroop. Overvolt more to compensate.

4.
Also, is there a way to get rid off the annoying USB scan beeps on POST ?
And is it possible maybe to disable (or selectively disable) those usb checks anyway altogether ? (or speed them up. i have lots of usb stuff on)

Nope, happens on all newer MSI's

See red text

[monographix]

See red text

is it surely vdroop? 1.300 seems to be the lowest volt option in the menu, with bioses after v1.3. Its not a measured voltage, just the setting option

[[XC] 4X4N]

V1.1 is still the best bios I think.

After about a month or so of using this board, I have to say I like it. Very easy to set up and has good onboard sound. Could do without all the damn led's though. Haven't tried any real high fsb with it. I'm currently running a q6600 @ 8x450 with no issues. Vdroop gets higher the more voltage you give it. 1.375v in bios with be about 1.39v at idle and drop to 1.37v at load. But to get 1.43v at load I have go to 1.4875 in bios. Also, the vcore jumps around a little. 1.4785 set in bios jumps anywhere from 1.42-1.45 at load. My DS3-R droops a lot more but the vcore stays very steady after the droop.

[clon22]

Nice chip you got there. I've no problems hitting more than 500mhz FSB for this board.

W00t, nice e4300.
Thats how i like it

Thanks guys.

[clon22]

Personally, I still like v1.1 best too.
Anyone tried measuring the voltage?
The newer bios seems to have a slight vdroop.

[[XC] gomeler]

Does anyone know if there is a working Windows FSB utility? About to start benching with this board and was hoping to eek out a few more MHZ once in Windows.

[[XC] 4X4N]

Setfsb works. link

[wyemarn]

Personally, I still like v1.1 best too.
Anyone tried measuring the voltage?
The newer bios seems to have a slight vdroop.

Can you share with us why you think 1.1 is the best? Better OC? More stable?
Currently I'm using 1.7 Beta 6 and I thinking of going back to 1.1 to push higher.