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    Phenom and 3DMark

    Already posted at AMD section but thought it might fit better under this section. I think its pretty interesting.

    We all know the clock situation

    but how about at the same clocks? Here is an initial comparison:

    Quote Originally Posted by macci View Post
    Here is a bit better benchmark (ran under Vista32bit without tweaking) -- single card 3DMark05!



    I have a reference score with 3GHz Yorkfield using the same GFX clocks and its 300 points less (ran under WinXP32bit though)...
    Here is another Yorkfield comparison score at 3GHZ (this one is with OVCKed FSB & RAM) (by Sampsa);


    Pretty close match, eh?

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    Very good!
    I hope AMD could return positions in TOP CPU benchmarks

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    If so Phenom will be much better than the Core 2 Q....

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    the fact that Yorkies benches at 4700Mhz on air... and Phenom struggles to do 3000Mhz is an important fact - and weird....

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    yah it look very good and some result from i benched by Phenom 9600@2.875GHz and HD3870 CF default clock
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    problem is that....is there any 5Ghz+ phenom since Yorks almost going for 6Ghz 3D @.@
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    This is not a thread about overclocking potential

    2 Quad Core CPU's running the same clock speed, with results using the same graphics card. Everyone was concerned about K10 performance, here is an example, plain and simple.

    Yorkie even has an advantage in ram speed 1142 vs 1000 at the same timings.

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    interesting...

    noob question, can the AMD Overdrive be used in other procs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyderOCZ View Post
    This is not a thread about overclocking potential

    2 Quad Core CPU's running the same clock speed, with results using the same graphics card. Everyone was concerned about K10 performance, here is an example, plain and simple.

    Yorkie even has an advantage in ram speed 1142 vs 1000 at the same timings.

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    yes that's absolutely how it goes

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyderOCZ View Post
    This is not a thread about overclocking potential

    2 Quad Core CPU's running the same clock speed, with results using the same graphics card. Everyone was concerned about K10 performance, here is an example, plain and simple.

    Yorkie even has an advantage in ram speed 1142 vs 1000 at the same timings.
    Yup can't say it better, this should ease down on the hardcore intel fans

    Thx for posting his macci

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    Interest info ,

    the sad thing is that no1 else except macci have ever seen 3ghz. . . so far as i know the average clocks are betwn 2.5-2.7 [?stable?] . PLUS the comparism done with an unreleased cpu.... [enginering sample aka the 3gigs comes only with 12 multi... right now.]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athens[2004] View Post
    Interest info ,

    the sad thing is that no1 else except macci have ever seen 3ghz. . . so far as i know the average clocks are betwn 2.5-2.7 [?stable?] . PLUS the comparism done with an unreleased cpu.... [enginering sample aka the 3gigs comes only with 12 multi... right now.]
    They have seen 3g, but not with 2500mhz NB cloks
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    Nice to know that clock for clock performance is similar, maybe even a tad better for AMD. This will be great for the normal community at large. Not gonna mean much of anything to an overclocker. I hope this ensures that AMD will be around for awhile. The consumer needs them around to give Intel some form of competition.
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    what about feauture test? they are done on amd system and not on intel system.is this make any difference on score?
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    Feature tests make no difference in scores. There should be a unlocked Phenom comming out and this should allow some 3G overclocking. Hopefully, they'll get the NB issues worked out and well see some of this from the locked versions.

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    why dont you do a 3dmark 2001 compare Macci..? This is only 3dmark 2005.., give us some other benches

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpa View Post
    why dont you do a 3dmark 2001 compare Macci..? This is only 3dmark 2005.., give us some other benches
    3DMark2001 is all about Cache speed - and it doesn't look pretty (as you can guess)
    Same goes to SuperPi. They didn't have SuperPi or 3Dmark2001SE in mind when they built this chip...

    As far as 3DMark06 goes: as long as both systems are running under Vista it should also be a pretty close match - I'll run some 06 later.

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    Nice SYNTHETIC results... I hope that translates to real world FPS!!!

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    Intrested to the '06 results
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    i gues this doesnt have the microcode update for L3 cache issue.

    Nice to see a comparison but just like intel and Super Pi, you cant only use 1 benchmark to compare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nachthymnen View Post
    Intrested to the '06 results
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    Would have thought the Yorksfield score would be better than that.
    Can you try CF and see which wins then please?
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    Ha, ha, ha......Sampsa just "lowered" his York score to much you....

    Try it with a 2900XT that I have to compare at 860/1016...
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    Quote Originally Posted by hipro5 View Post
    Ha, ha, ha......Sampsa just "lowered" his York score to much you....

    Try it with a 2900XT that I have to compare at 860/1016...
    Sure

    right now Phenom > Yorkfield clock per clock baby

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    New procesor for AMD is good only in 3D Mark ? :| what they heven't got results in super pi or c2q?
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