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    OPB's tweak which helped him to do the
    Thread on Coolaler forums: http://forum.coolaler.com/showthread.php?p=1889672
    Seems like a very good find, but does it work for everyone? Does anyone have the theoretical explanation?

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    1st step:
    - Make the pagefile exactly 512~512mb under the partition you place super pi 1.5mod.
    - Make a new folder named whatever you like , make 3 files which size can be about { 600m(628666368)--->maxmem (I set), and pplus 32m..}x 3

    2nd step:
    - Use winrar to make the single rar files ...so it will be smaller or equal to 2gb, if you fail during compress....you know your setting ddefinitely haas problem on it.
    - Run the window of super pi 32m (or even 1m) set the size you wanna run...and leave the dialogue there.

    3rd step:
    - Cut this rar file and paste @ C:/ for 3 timess.

    ** check with task manager for the available memory size...so let the system idle for at least :

    20seconds for 1m
    45 second for 32m

    1m need to be greater than 460m

    suggestion from OPB..:
    you will need to do above BEFORE you use setfsb or clockgen to OC your FSB and change your memory parameters from memset.

    Good luck.
    **you also can use cut-paste -copy ...this is what I will try to do the experiment with CDT-V

    the file is like this...
    632m(about) need 3 of them...no ned to be exactly, but need to be only 3..
    cuz not like you stated above..that would do it like 6 or more...that would completely mess the sequential compress action up.

    when you run super pi, you need to choose size right?
    after you choose , the dialogue will show:

    "now start to calculate"
    just stop there and do whatever need to do

    reason:
    cuz at that moment, you system has about to prepare some elements need to running super pi size you set...very important.

    you cut the file , your ram is tempoarily store that img some address,
    certainly you always cut from D to c..I did say from where you place the super pi folder right?

    so after you paste on c...right click your mouse...can you do one more...two again?...
    it will ask you "overwrite it..."
    ok ..you need one folder.. only one for entire CDT-IV

    why ? becuase you need to make it into a rar files..
    so only ...ONLY make a folder ..and you will need to find 3 files are about 632m( 600m+32m is the hint for thinking why..but doesn NOT have to be 600+32..(I can have 598+34? right?...)

    so the best way is you only make it once for 632mb for instance, then copy it into the folderright? then re-name the original to othername and copy into that folder...so now your folder has how much? 1264mb? so the one remain out side the folder still 632mb right?
    so rename again and "cut it and paste into that folder...
    now, if you install winrar already, right click that folder, and make a whatever name of the rar file...there we go, after done...you know what to do...

    **All this way above is NOT must do like this...it's only one of the 1000 ways...to form you a 1.8g~2.0gb single rar file....

    but why I give the hint for 3x(600mb+32mb) to form that single rar?...haha..

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    for everyone:
    if you wanna integrate Copy-waza, please, after you do Cut and paste , copy from c to D and then you will need to paste @ d over-write for 2 times..., you will get the most surprised result.

    here we go for elementry scool dialogue



    will post real procedure during making this.

    during the initial small file make up:



    1st step completed; First C.I formed
    2nd step initializing:
    see that difference between available memory and system cache?



    then...
    ** Anti-derevitive?lol 3 times from wherever to D


    Finalize the final step of CDT-iv...Cut...(Dereivitive in calculus?)



    the final step, idle and let system balance, close the task manager and you're redy to go.



    EDIT: massman your post is a bit confusing, i removed some free spaces and comments in regards to the tweaks author :P
    And i hope you dont mind if i replace the pics with thumbnails since they are quite large -Saaya
    Last edited by massman; 10-30-2007 at 07:34 AM.
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    My way of doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by massman View Post
    you cut the file , your ram is tempoarily store that img some address,
    certainly you always cut from D to c..I did say from where you place the super pi folder right?

    so after you paste on c...right click your mouse...can you do one more...two again?...
    it will ask you "overwrite it..."
    This is what confused me on that overwriting stuff.

    So, in summary it would be:

    1. Setup OS with maxmem, pagefile, etc, OPB Cleaner and then reboot
    2. Open SuperPI and prepare to start 32M
    3. Create 3 x 632Mb files in a folder (location important?), then RAR them into 1 .rar located in the SuperPI partition
    4. Copy that .rar file to C:\ 3 times
    5. Copy that .rar file to xxxxxxxxxxxx(?) 3 times from yyyyyyyyy(?)
    6. Copy that .rar file back to SuperPI partition 3 times from C:\
    7. Wait for taskmanager to balance
    8. Run PI

    Never heard of the copying it 9 times, so can you advise me on step 5 above?
    Last edited by T_M; 11-06-2007 at 01:33 AM.

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    It is 9 times total like I mentioned.

    Quote Originally Posted by T_M View Post
    So, in summary it would be:

    1. Setup OS with maxmem, pagefile, etc, OPB Cleaner and then reboot

    2. Open SuperPI and prepare to start 32M
    3. Create 3 x 632Mb files in a folder (location important?), then RAR them into 1 .rar located in the SuperPI partition
    4. Copy that .rar file to C:\ 3 times
    5. Copy that .rar file to xxxxxxxxxxxx(?) 3 times from yyyyyyyyy(?)
    6. Copy that .rar file back to SuperPI partition 3 times from C:\
    7. Wait for taskmanager to balance
    8. Run PI
    1. Why reboot though? I didn't reboot and nor did Kev so there was no reboot in the method he mentioned. What happens if you don't reboot, any change?

    3. Doubt it. I always have one 3x632MB RAR made already in the SPi partition.

    4. From SPi partition to another partition, yup.

    5. Copy it from SPi partition to a folder on that partition, i.e. if SPi partition is D:\ then copy the RAR you have on D:\ to D:\CDT\

    The rest is right as they mentioned and what I ran.

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    After all the good advice from KTE, i thought i might finally see some better results, so i tested again last night (albeit a bit faster) on QX6850 @ 3600MHz (8 x 450), DDR3 running 12xx 6-8-6-15-xxxxx:

    1. Create 3 x 632Mb files then RAR them into 1 .rar located in the SuperPI partition. Setup OS with maxmem, pagefile, diagnostic mode, OPB Cleaner and then reboot
    2. Open SuperPI and prepare to start 32M
    3. Copy that .rar file from SuperPI partition to OS partition 3 times (overwriting, with pause in between to rest taskmanager)
    4. Copy that .rar file from SuperPI partition to SuperPI:\CDT folder 3 times (overwriting, with pause in between to rest taskmanager)
    5. Copy that .rar file from OS partition to SuperPI partition 3 times (overwriting, with pause in between to rest taskmanager)
    6. Wait for taskmanager to balance at 56xxxxx / 56xxxxx
    7. Run PI

    Tested using 8M first:

    No tweak: 2m 58.547s
    CDT tweak: 2m 57.000s
    Single 4Gb file copy: 2m 56.859s

    Tested second with 32M:

    No tweak: 14m 11.188s
    CDT tweak: 14m 01.969s

    So, my results are still no better than copying a single large file from one unrelated partition to another.

    Am i going wrong by pausing in between each file copy?
    Last edited by T_M; 11-07-2007 at 08:43 PM.

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    Tim how long do you pause

    make sure your available and system cache don't drop to standard idle figures otherwise you will probably see no benefit

    probably a good idea to have Windows Task Manager Performance Tab open so you know where you're at
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