..just moved this from wrong forum, sorry
Have any of you actually been able to increase your multiplier past 16??? This and the new 5000+ are supposed to have 'cusomisable multiplier' yet I sure can't move upwards on my DFI board on the latest bios, and it seems someone else can't on their cheapo board.
Can't seeem to find any evidence around the place
Cheers
when the 6400 was released, one of the disappointed newegg revs said the 6400 was downward unlockable only... so that at least confirms your finding, if you can trust a ne rev...
edit: found it..
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Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
8/28/2007 9:52:42 AM
Rating + 5Rating + 5Rating + 5Rating + 5Rating + 5 fast & stable
Pros: A fast 3.215 GHz, and stable at 100% load on both cores with a CPU temp of 41C (Antec900 case with a Zalman 9700 heatsink). Has a 1.424 VCore. DDR2 at 400MHz x 2 due to the even multiplier. Best bet if you need a new AM2 chip now and don't want to overclock. I've had the FX-62 at 3.215 GHz but it took a 1.6 VCore to get there, not too mention the heat...
Cons: The multiplier maxes at 16x (it's only unlocked with regards to lowering the multiplier: standard for the x2's). Would have been nice to get an unlocked multiplier since the 6400+ was released at a "premium" price compared to the other AM2 chips.
Other Thoughts: Antec 900; Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wi-fi; Thermaltake ToughPower 850W; AMD 6400+ @ 3.215GHz; Zalman 9700 Heatsink Fan; 2 x PNY 7950GT in SLI (w/ 512MB GDDR3 each); 2 x Corsair Dominator 1 GB Dual Channel DDR2 800; 3 x Seagate 300 GB SATA HDD's...
Last edited by MikeB12; 09-30-2007 at 04:44 AM.
The 6400 doesn't have an unlocked multiplier, that's why you can't move upwards. I should say it doesn't have a fully unlocked multiplier, as you can adjust downwards only. Only the 5000+ (Black edition) has the fully unlocked multiplier.
Last edited by freeloader; 09-30-2007 at 06:54 AM.
As quoted by LowRun......"So, we are one week past AMD's worst case scenario for BD's availability but they don't feel like communicating about the delay, I suppose AMD must be removed from the reliable sources list for AMD's products launch dates"
Proof?Originally Posted by freeloader
well this is some proof of the 5000+ being unlocked:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...3&postcount=53
I don't understand why the 6400+ isn't upward unlocked to be honest, why did they evenbother mentioning it in the literature? everything with CnQ is downward unlocked!
oh well. Thanks all.
I'm disapointed,
5000+ Black Edition = 2x512kb and Energy Effective
EDIT: Im confused, is it a 65nm Windsor? (Never heard of it before though)
I find ton's of different info on it, what is 100% true and what is not?
Last edited by nullface; 09-30-2007 at 02:57 PM.
just guessing, but I'd imagine it's a 89w 90nm windsor.
all the 5000's:
http://products.amd.com/en-us/Deskto...38&id=39&id=40
edit: nice... the site goes down as soon as I post a link... http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUFilter.aspx
Last edited by MikeB12; 09-30-2007 at 03:20 PM.
Its a Brisbane, if its 65nm.
I get et now
I tried both 6400+ and 5000+BlackEdition on DFI's NF590-SLI.
http://www.oohashi.jp/c-board/file/2...%2B_3755.8.png
http://www.oohashi.jp/c-board/file/2...k_3.5G_x17.png
I couldn't see over x16 multiplier in case of 6400+,
but I confirmed that 5000+B.E. is unlocked upto x25 at least within DFI's NF590-SLI BIOS.
http://www.oohashi.jp/c-board/file/5...k_upto-x25.jpg
So, I think unlocked-6400+ is just a rumor...
...I've not tried CrystalCPUID's mulitiplier changing function, though.
is that the regular 6400 or the black edition:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/20/a...black-edition/
or is the 5000 black a 6400 with unlocked multi!
Regular 6400!?
AFAIK, 6400+ does exists only as Black Edition, at least in Japan, so far.
And of course, my 6400+ described in previous post is Black Edition.
how's the overclking of 5000+BE ?
if u have chance to test under cold, that will be great.
'coz unlocked multi is the only way to solve the AMD coldbug/fsb problem.
thx a lot
maybe they forgot to update bios with black edition microcode. so no upper multiplier selectable. is it?
Is there any difference in colbug from 90nm(f3) to 65nm? Heard rumors the new 5000+ B.E is a new revision of 65nm, could anyone confirm this?
6400+ is not unlocked!
kyosen what type of cooling did you use for 5000+ OC'ing?
Last edited by Nedjo; 10-01-2007 at 12:46 AM.
Thanks for the replies, I think that's fair confirmation only the 5000+ is unlocked.. weird.
Tictac: I thought this too, but kyson can go upward on exact same board with
a 5000+
Kyson: Mine wont budge with Cbid.
LIXMARK: From what I and others have found.. absolutley, brisbane is much worse.
F3: operate @ 200 down -20c to -30c. 250htt clock+ @ ~ -10 (for me at least)
G1 brisbane: Operate @ stock down to 0 to -10 , clock vs temp, not 100% sure.
PS crap that is a nice Overclock for a brisabane, Kyson!.. 2 stepping looks interesting :p Also interested to know what cooling
Nedjo> kyosen what type of cooling did you use for 5000+ OC'ing?
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mAJORD> PS crap that is a nice Overclock for a brisabane, Kyson!.. 2 stepping looks interesting :p Also interested to know what cooling
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Though CoreTemp 0.95.4 shows -1 deg-C, it's not correct...too low.
I got 3.5G with mild water-cooling...yeah mild water-cooling,
assisted by mild running air-conditioner wind...around 18 deg-C temperature.
CPU-Z shows Vcore=1.552V, and it's almost accurate.
great results Kyson
might wanne join Victor for the 1M wr
I spoke with Chris Tom over at AMDZONE.COM and he says his 6400+ is completely unlocked, both up and down.
As quoted by LowRun......"So, we are one week past AMD's worst case scenario for BD's availability but they don't feel like communicating about the delay, I suppose AMD must be removed from the reliable sources list for AMD's products launch dates"
so need bios upgrade to unlocked upper multi?
very interesting freeloader
Perhaps that's it tictac.. shame no bios update for a while from DFI
hmm strange, according to AMD 6400 isn't unlocked!
Yes, and yes.
----- Start Original Message -----
Sent: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 21:16:33 -0400
From: ********************
To: <chris.tom@amdzone.com>
Subject: Athlon 6400 X2...
>
> I just read your review of the Athlon 6400+ X2. Good review. I was
wondering if you could tell me if that CPU has a completely unlocked
multiplier? Basically, can it go above it's 16x multiplier? Thanks for
any help.
That's the response I received from him.
As quoted by LowRun......"So, we are one week past AMD's worst case scenario for BD's availability but they don't feel like communicating about the delay, I suppose AMD must be removed from the reliable sources list for AMD's products launch dates"
I also read a month ago that the 6400+ was to have a fully unlocked multi.....most likely this will be bios related.
Agreed.
As quoted by LowRun......"So, we are one week past AMD's worst case scenario for BD's availability but they don't feel like communicating about the delay, I suppose AMD must be removed from the reliable sources list for AMD's products launch dates"
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