K10 Scores starting to surface

[savantu]

At this level of business you've got the company bet on it..
The answer is no, your not allowed to fail and if I had $$ I'd buy AMD stock tomorrow!

...

That's blind faith territory ; Intel failed with Prescott altough it was supposed to be a killer.

You can have a superb product ( Alpha ) and still go down under , far larger companies crumbled in this space ; why whould AMD be exempt ?

K10 will offer sizeable benefits over K8 in the server arena , altough this will be obvious only when it ramps up the clock.But that's about it ; it won't obliterate Core , not to mention Penryn.

[Hornet331]

i hope later today we see some gaming benches, im curious about the performance of K10 in games.

[kemo]

well until I can play a DX11 game on my Cellphone

well you need to buy a cellphone first my friend

[savantu]

You on the other hand were graced with foresight on birth ?

How about we tone it down a tad and wait for more results to come in ? you know, cinebench/superprime/superpi produce really fashionable numbers, ay . But what do they mean in "real world" (if it even has a meaning of its own) performance ? not a great deal .

If amd has failed, then so be it . "Better luck next time" .

Cinebench is portrayed as representative of commercial 3D rendering SW ; that is pretty real world.

After all , what's real world ? 3Dmark ? Games ?

If anything , tests like the above show which core has more oomph , even if the results are semi-worthless for real world.

[oohms]

Just because AMD can't release anything that beats a conroe/kentsfield does not mean they will just "suddenly die"...
I guess if worst comes to worst they can go back to the days of the K6, where they were vastly inferior to intel in terms of performance.

[nn_step]

well you need to buy a cellphone first my friend

already taken care of that one (I use it as a modem when I travel)

[Motiv]

Cinebench is portrayed as representative of commercial 3D rendering SW ; that is pretty real world.

After all , what's real world ? 3Dmark ? Games ?

If anything , tests like the above show which core has more oomph , even if the results are semi-worthless for real world.

If the results are correct, then AMD looks like it will be without a paddle in the home market. If this is the case, they better had hope that when put in typical servers, it performs exceptionally well.

I'm just hoping these chips are "broken" revisions and the 3Dmark Phenom is the actual speed. I wont be holding my breath though.

[RaZz!]

Cinebench is portrayed as representative of commercial 3D rendering SW ; that is pretty real world.

After all , what's real world ? 3Dmark ? Games ?

If anything , tests like the above show which core has more oomph , even if the results are semi-worthless for real world.

ye, but you have to consider that:
- only cinebench and wprime were used to measure the performance. this is just a very small amount of benchmarks at all
- this is just ONE source that shows us its benchmark-scores. if more and different sources report the same performance numbers than we can say that the results are representative (almost).

we won't know for sure until barcelona is officially launched and credible review-sites put it to the acid test.

[savantu]

lmao!

What's to laugh about ?

Have you heard of Fusion , Silverthorne ?

The purpose of such devices is to move the PC as we know it on the cellphone. Current cellphones are slowly going uphill into PC territory ; this will advance at a very rapid pace once system-on-a-chip devices appear next year.The whole point is to move x86 down , into cellphone territory and this is the purpose of Silverthorne early next year. ( Iphone 2 will use it according to rumours )

This is real and is happening now ; both Intel and AMD are preparing for the 2010-2012 generation , by that time , cell phones will be more powerfull than current PCs.Add 3D glasses to them and all my multimedia needs are satisfied.

/End off topic.

[RaZz!]

What's to laugh about ?

Have you heard of Fusion , Silverthorne ?

The purpose of such devices is to move the PC as we know it on the cellphone. Current cellphones are slowly going uphill into PC territory ; this will advance at a very rapid pace once system-on-a-chip devices appear next year.The whole point is to move x86 down , into cellphone territory and this is the purpose of Silverthorne early next year. ( Iphone 2 will use it according to rumours )

This is real and is happening now ; both Intel and AMD are preparing for the 2010-2012 generation , by that time , cell phones will be more powerfull than current PCs.Add 3D glasses to them and all my multimedia needs are satisfied.

/End off topic.

yep, our current gfx-cards consume 200w+ and need a bigass cooling solution and you're talking about cellphones that are faster than our current pcs by 2010-2012?

even if this would be true, who could afford these cell phones? talking about premium deluxe highend ultra extreme prices

c'mon, i can't believe you're serious about this...

[Slay0r]

Cinebench is portrayed as representative of commercial 3D rendering SW ; that is pretty real world.

After all , what's real world ? 3Dmark ? Games ?

If anything , tests like the above show which core has more oomph , even if the results are semi-worthless for real world.

imho real world is different from user to user . I'm essentially a gamer, even though my job wants me sat at a pc all day for obvious different reasons . Bearing in mind that I am a fanboy of performance, I'd pass a SPI 1M 15sec pc for one that takes twice or three times as much to complete the loop, if the latter, afterall, ran cpu intensive games at a higher frame rate when compared to the former .

Given that the above has little chances to reflect reality, that's the way I see it .

[Hornet331]

more on topic:

can anyone provide benches for Friz Chess Bench, CPU Mark 99 with xeons @ 2ghz ?

[SOLDNER-MOFO64]

woooooow hold on.....am I right in saying you guys are arguing over an early K10 benchmark submitted by an INTEL fanboi?

You can't pay attention to a bench from people who jumped ship to intel and have licked their a$$e$ ever since.

I could bench a Q6700 and show you 28second Pi 1M times......big deal.

to common sense

[Hornet331]

woooooow hold on.....am I right in saying you guys are arguing over an early K10 benchmark submitted by an INTEL fanboi?

You can't pay attention to a bench from people who jumped ship to intel and have licked their a$$e$ ever since.

I could bench a Q6700 and show you 28second Pi 1M times......big deal.

to common sense

i didnt know you know that 84036980 dude, who posted the benchmarks... so everyone who posts something "negative" about amd is a intel fanboy...

btw. nice ninja edit on the 18 secs to 28 secs.

[SOLDNER-MOFO64]

i didnt know you know that 84036980 dude, who posted the benchmarks... so everyone who posts something "negative" about amd is a intel fanboy...

btw. nice ninja edit on the 18 secs to 28 secs.

lol...no no not everyone.....just the INTEL fanatics who submit K10 scores

yeah, I'm ninja-like alright

[Slay0r]

woooooow hold on.....am I right in saying you guys are arguing over an early K10 benchmark submitted by an INTEL fanboi?

You can't pay attention to a bench from people who jumped ship to intel and have licked their a$$e$ ever since.

I could bench a Q6700 and show you 28second Pi 1M times......big deal.

to common sense

my common sense fails to understand how one could be "fan boy" of either company, never mind "jumping ship", unless there were lucrative reasons in the background .

it's like me turning down a ford mustang for a fiat panda (given that money wasn't an issue) because fiat is an italian brand . what the .

[STaRGaZeR]

AMD ppl appears! Have been a long time without them in this thread. Only informal remains in silent

Now we have some real numbers, more to come in the upcoming days. As spected, K10 seems to be a disappointment. And that really sucks. No competition to Intel = Intel wont innovate as fast as they do with the C2D.

AMD BAD!!!

[SOLDNER-MOFO64]

my common sense fails to understand how one could be "fan boy" of either company, never mind "jumping ship", unless there were lucrative reasons in the background .

it's like me turning down a ford mustang for a fiat panda (given that money wasn't an issue) because fiat is an italian brand . what the .

Put it this way, when I see an AMD user post K10 benches I'll believe them, or atleast someone with some credibility.

[Motiv]

Put it this way, when I see an AMD user post K10 benches I'll believe them, or atleast someone with some credibility.

And if the benchies are true, then AMD could well be in very big trouble.

[kemo]

my common sense fails to understand how one could be "fan boy" of either company, never mind "jumping ship", unless there were lucrative reasons in the background .

it's like me turning down a ford mustang for a fiat panda (given that money wasn't an issue) because fiat is an italian brand . what the .

Italian is Italian , how can you turn down a fiat ,,,




some people will favor a product over another one due to a good past experience ,, the other type of fan boys those who pays more to get less either stupid people or retarded ,,, you should only buy whatever will give you the best for your budget and always hope for better competition and better performance with every advancement

[Slay0r]

Put it this way, when I see an AMD user post K10 benches I'll believe them, or atleast someone with some credibility.

fair enough, i still fail to see how one can only either be amd or intel. I have both in my house, does that make me an untrustable bad e-person ?

Italian is Italian , how can you turn down a fiat

well, if i was to choose between italian brands, i'd be more prone to buy off alfa romeo or ferrari(i wish).

you should only buy whatever will give you the best for your budget and always hope for better competition and better performance with every advancement

[Thesavage]

Already got my Alfa

[mAJORD]

Soo anyway... now you've all stopped being b1tches at each other (yeah right!)

..here are some some:

1Mb K8 (Windsor) Super pi @ 2ghz , with DDR2 667, to serve as some sort of comparison, since the opty's must be running reg'd 667.




And a 32bit cinebench 10 single CPU score..



So this should give a rough idea of the single core performance delta if these benchmarks are a true representation:

5% faster at super pi

somewhere between 0 ann 7% faster @ cinebench, depending on how much K8 scales in 64bit version.. (anyone?)

If someone with a socket F opty system lurks out there on 64bit would like to do the same.. would be good.

[Ubermann]

Well this was just sad!
They wont earn 1 buck on these..i bet price will be really really cheap cuz thats the only reason for going with these ones over Intel.

At least the AMD vs Intel fight is over and now we have to wait for 2009 or so when they fired the whole crew and make a good product.

[[XC] riptide]

Somebody somewhere has to start posting up a full suite of K10 benchmarks for 3 reasons.

1) To get a clear picture of whats what.

2) To get an idea of overclock ability.

3) Cos I'll go banannas waiting and wondering.