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Thread: 32m Low Clock Challenge

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    Quote Originally Posted by dinos22
    heheheheh
    Well that aint no answer biatch
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinos22
    LOL to put it bluntly
    OK...then maybe you can answer my question....

    What it comes down to is that you THINK the 4mb cpu's have a huge advantage since you see the majority of outrageous clocks and low pi scores coming from them when, in fact, the cache plays MUCH lesser of a role in a 32m run vs. a 1m run. The difference - percentage wise - between the 4mb cpu's and 2mb cpu's is HUUUUUUGE in a 1m run but it's a whole 'nother story when you compare 32m's......

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    2M



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    Not exactly the same clocks, but as can be seen the difference is very small. May be sub-13mins is possible with both CPUs and 2Gb of RAM instead of my good ol 1Gb kit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
    OK...then maybe you can answer my question....

    What it comes down to is that you THINK the 4mb cpu's have a huge advantage since you see the majority of outrageous clocks and low pi scores coming from them when, in fact, the cache plays MUCH lesser of a role in a 32m run vs. a 1m run. The difference - percentage wise - between the 4mb cpu's and 2mb cpu's is HUUUUUUGE in a 1m run but it's a whole 'nother story when you compare 32m's......
    i don't test 1M much to be honest (this is a 32M challenge thread )

    but in my testing on B1 steppings there was as much as 40 seconds difference between 2M vs 4MB

    looks like Before's benches look more like half that on B2 steppings....
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    Quote Originally Posted by before
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    Not exactly the same clocks, but as can be seen the difference is very small. May be sub-13mins is possible with both CPUs and 2Gb of RAM instead of my good ol 1Gb kit.
    Thank you my friend

    So who's gonna be the first to admit they were wrong? lol........

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    Quote Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
    Thank you my friend

    So who's gonna be the first to admit they were wrong? lol........
    LOL let's see clock for clock difference

    and i think 20-40 seconds is massive lol.....it isn't to you?!?
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    Here are the good screenies to compare... same clocks, same timings; same tweaking

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    Quote Originally Posted by dinos22
    i don't test 1M much to be honest (this is a 32M challenge thread )

    but in my testing on B1 steppings there was as much as 40 seconds difference between 2M vs 4MB

    looks like Before's benches look more like half that on B2 steppings....
    And 32m's is what I was originally talking about.....40 seconds is a HUUUUUGE difference ? On a 15 minute 32m run, that's less than a 5% difference.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by before
    Here are the good screenies to compare... same clocks, same timings; same tweaking
    Wow....that's pretty damn close (Actually even closer than I thought possible)....LOL @ the Super Tulip Gardena SPD

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    OMG how the hell did you do that


    i'm gonna pretend this didn't happen

    ok it i'm going to do the test now E6600ES B1 vs E6300ES B1 at 400MHz FSB.........same settings


    Quote Originally Posted by before
    Here are the good screenies to compare... same clocks, same timings; same tweaking

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    Quote Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
    And 32m's is what I was originally talking about.....40 seconds is a HUUUUUGE difference ? On a 15 minute 32m run, that's less than a 5% difference.....
    looks like mine yours and evas definition of huge differs considerably lol


    i'm gonna have to take it back what i said about the Polish overclocker cheating as Before clearly demonstrated it is possible(well sort of....with the right RAM clocks) hehe.............it's crazy wow
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinos22
    ok it i'm going to do the test now E6600ES B1 vs E6300ES B1 at 400MHz FSB.........same settings
    ES's don't really give a very good indication in terms of final performance numbers, even more so with the B1's. You'll get a better picture with a B2 ES, but ultimately it's the retail chips that count

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    looks like i was badly wrong........i must have been comparing 1333 strap on E6300 due to high FSB benching i did with it and 1066 strap on E6600 as most of my SuperPI benching was at 3.6Ghz


    anyways here is the full story with screenshots to go


    FIRST UP E6600ES B1 BIOS SHOTS AND 32M SuperPI RUN:











    NEXT UP E6300ES B1 BIOS SHOTS AND 32M SuperPI RUN:












    BASICALLY 3 seconds difference........that's it
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    Nice testing buddy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by before
    Nice testing buddy!
    thanks for pointing this out........it was pretty ignorant of me not to repeat my testing after some time you know what i mean
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    wow I'm surprised too but then i never touched a 2MB cache chip lol

    but still if you're going for world ranked pi times 4MB cache is the key as every second counts
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    @dinos22:

    @eva2000: of course you're right... BTW a well tweaked 2M run @Spi32M easily beats an 'average' 4M run.
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    Thanks for clearing that up before

    and thanks dinos for the bios shots with your benchies, removes all doubt now really
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    Gave sub 14 another shot:



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    This thread is on fire!! I love it.
    @nicke...yah I stole your girl
    @zeus...from my testing ram mhz as a huge effect on time in 32m regardless of main or adv timings. Also booting at a tighter strap helps.
    @before...How you like the commando compared to the p5b bro?? I am thinking of getting one.

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    No your little dirty stay away from her! I will kill twitch for telling you who she was!! Damn that guy!
    Intel FTW!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiCKE^
    No your little dirty stay away from her! I will kill twitch for telling you who she was!! Damn that guy!
    Your buddy didnt tell me, I figured it out on my own

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    Quote Originally Posted by k|ngp|n
    Your buddy didnt tell me, I figured it out on my own
    Yeah sure, and the earth is flat?
    Intel FTW!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiCKE^
    Yeah sure, and the earth is flat?
    I'm serious bro...ask him. She's in alot of the modded car magazines, and guess what?? She's mine now

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    Hah she will always belong to me! But the worst part is that most users will think "Oh look at him he took the girl k|ngp|n's avatar" and not the other way around.

    Yeah I know she started to pose in a car magazine IIRC.
    But one thing is for sure SHE IS MINE! MOAHAHAHA
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