AgenaFX ES CPUz screen shoots?

[gOJDO]

soruce:http://www.awardfabrik.de/forum/show...3&postcount=36

[The Ghost]

s7 said the pictures are fake

even thought they was taken with a Canon Canon DIGITAL IXUS 40 at 2007:01:31 23:20:42

the reason why they are fake take a look at how many threads

also look at the package and the name

[The Ghost]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=305

[gOJDO]

Damn! And I thought that we were going to see some benchmarks soon!

[The Ghost]

i wish that they was , no one wants them to be real more then me

but i have to call what i see , or seem to see

i want to be wrong , but s7 called them fake , and i think that i have to take his word , besides what i seen in the pictures

[gOJDO]

Yeap, they are fake! Only stepping A are ES. Stepping B is for the market.

[[XC] Lead Head]

Opteron 1120? AM2? SSE3 and no SSE4?

[nn_step]

Don't trust CPU-Z. It misses a lot of stuff until the authors update it.

grab CPU-Z version 1.2 and it'll see AMD dual cores as Intel chips

[xlink]

also, what's to say that stepping A wasn't a mistake and they needed another revision, rev B?

[ether.real]

2.8 stock clock is hopeful though.

[Shadowmage]

Don't trust CPU-Z. It misses a lot of stuff until the authors update it.

Completely true.

Camera shots are extremely hard to fake. I personally believe it.

[MAS]

Camera shots are extremely hard to fake. I personally believe it.

he-he
i can simply make a program which will look like CPU-Z and be able to determine any future cpu architecture

but in tis case i beleive

it's time to see K8L "at work"

privet Lexagon'u

[The Ghost]

if you go into that thread i linked to you will see other reasons why it is a fake , the numbers are not lined up corectly in the right spot

[BenchZowner]

Camera shots are extremely hard to fake. I personally believe it.

Not that hard
And whether we like it or not, everything's possible.

P.S. Talking 'bout faked pics, when you just can't line-up things right you're in trouble.
Stup1d people faking pictures to get impressions/hits/clicks

[accord99]

Completely true.

Camera shots are extremely hard to fake. I personally believe it.

Hard to fake a camera shot, but not hard to fake the image that the camera is looking at.

[kromosto]

fake or not it is not important until we see a bench

[sxs112]

L2 512K*2 ?

Kuma ES?

[MAS]

L2 512K*2 ?

Kuma ES?

or just mobo am2 with an old bios doesn't see second half of quadcore

[Helmore]

To me it looks very real, but time will tell I guess. One other thing that is odd, L1 Data and L1 Code is supposed to be 32kb per core, so CPU-Z would have to show L1 Data: 2 x 32kb and L1 Code: 2 x 32kb, not 2 x 64kb for both. This is because Agena/Kuma/entire star series only has 32kb of L1 instruction cache and 32kb of L1 data cache per core, atleast that is what AMD has always told us.

[MAS]

This is because Agena/Kuma/entire star series only has 32kb of L1 instruction cache and 32kb of L1 data cache per core, atleast that is what AMD has always told us.

you are not right
K8L and K8 has equal L1 size == 64k code and 64k data

where did you find 32kb value?

[Helmore]

you are not right
K8L and K8 has equal L1 size == 64k code and 64k data

where did you find 32kb value?

Yup you are right, I stand corrected, now just forget that I said anything. I got my information here and some other sourced which I couldn't easily find back, but as you can read here (and many more links) it seems that will "K8L" have 64kb of L1 instruction cache and 64kb of Data cache. They also state it as such:

The first significant disclosures regarding the K8L had to do with the cache hierarchy within a single core. Despite an erroneous rumor to the contrary at Daily Tech, the L1D and L1I caches remain at 64KB each, according to a senior architect at AMD. The floor plan of the K8L also tends to confirm that the L1 caches have not decreased in size. The K8L did experience some L2 cache shrinkage and initial parts will feature a 2MB shared L3 cache. Based on the cache sizes, the L2 cache is still exclusive of the L1 contents, and the L3 cache is certainly not inclusive (although this does not mean it is exclusive). Additionally, it is easy to deduce, based on information about the load/store units that the bus between the L1 and L2 caches has been widened to 256 bits. The L3 cache is extensible, and it seems likely that 4MB parts will come out, perhaps as a way to differentiate between low-end parts intended for 1-2 sockets, and the higher-end parts for 4-8 sockets.

[[XC] Lead Head]

Faking a camera shot is allot easier then you think. Take a screen shot with CPU-z open, open the screen shot up in your favorite photo editing software, save the picture, set it as the background, then kill explorer. Not terribly hard.

[gOJDO]

At least we learned how to fake CPUz screen shots. Now, mods pls lock this useless thread.

[w0mbat]

Real source is here: http://forum.effizienzgurus.de/showp...7&postcount=74

As i wrote in the K8L-Thread, these pics are from a friend whos working at AMD. In the past i got many true infos about coming AMD products from him, but also a few which were wrong. I trust him, cause hes a good friend (even he is over 40 years old^^). I dont know why he told me to hide the v-core, but i know why i he told me to do the same with the code-name.

Think again, if i wanted to fake a pic like that, i would take a quadcore, name him Agena or Altair, oc him to 3,4GHz and put a watermark an the pic with "w0mbat is the king".

[alucasa]

All these times, you were asked to provide a link to validation and this is all you came up with.

Sorry, hard to trust you.
And it is even harder to trust someone who spams around.