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    Quote Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
    oh OK, but that brings up another question - with 3 fans blowing out and only 1 blowing in, won't that create a little negative air pressure inside the case and starve the fans for air? Would it maybe be better to have the rear and the front fans blowing in and the rad fans blowing out to even it up?
    possibly... another route i was thinking of doing is having all three exhausts run at either 7V or 5V and keeping the intake at 12V...

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    sigh... just picked up a few things to add and replace...

    i bought a swiftech ramcooler (1/4" tubing ram cooling thing - don't flame lol)
    the "F" adapters are going to shoot off the 1/4" tubing to the ramcooler and the chipset.
    I can't stand those stick-on ram coolers anymore... Plus, with the addition of my sound card, there's not much airflow there for those ramsinks.

    I also picked up 4 new yate loon fans... i'm gonna ditch the AC one's...

    PM me if you want them for a good price.

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    Great Update!! jejeje Congratulations!!! (y)

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    It looks really nice considering what a squeeze it must be.
    Good choice of components.
    I'm wondering what you're doing for a res/t-line. Might have missed it but I don't think you said.
    It looks to me like you should get rid of that elbow at the pump inlet if possible. I know that a restriction at the inlet really limits performance. More so than an elbow somwhere else in the loop. Or even try get a more sweeping elbow to replace the mitre. Then again, its all low restriction blocks so....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychotic Emu
    It looks really nice considering what a squeeze it must be.
    Good choice of components.
    I'm wondering what you're doing for a res/t-line. Might have missed it but I don't think you said.
    It looks to me like you should get rid of that elbow at the pump inlet if possible. I know that a restriction at the inlet really limits performance. More so than an elbow somwhere else in the loop. Or even try get a more sweeping elbow to replace the mitre. Then again, its all low restriction blocks so....
    thx for the comments... because of the location of the reservoir (otherside of the hard drive bay) and the fact i could not elevate it because of the the 5.25 drive bays, that's as high as i could put it... warranting an elbow.

    i'm still getting tons of flow - and i'm about to post pics of some changes that may make most of you shudder... but the changes were necessary...

    let's just say i'm fed up with copper bga ramsinks popping off and not being able to just put them back on...

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    ibflamejob lol...

    it works quite well...





    with sound card:



    pending installation...


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    *shudders* FITTINGS! SO MANY FITTINGS!

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    lol to be totally honest with you it doesnt look that bad, did you notice an increase in temps and by how much if so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spawne32
    lol to be totally honest with you it doesnt look that bad, did you notice an increase in temps and by how much if so?
    thx... haven't temp-tested yet... finished that last night and had it running throughout the night for leaks - none...

    i'll post temps tonight...

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    my head is spinning trying to figure out which way the flow goes on that thing, i may have to take some advil

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spawne32
    *shudders* FITTINGS! SO MANY FITTINGS!
    HA.

    I have........2X MCW60s, that is 4, MCW30 - 2 more, Res = 2, pump =2, CPU block =2, and RAD =2 that is 14 points of connection :-P. AND a bleeder tube, not to mention the RES has 2 more ports with caps, so that is........17 openings.
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    So please return to the "Darkside of the Moon" and check your "Pulse" while you wait for the "Animals" that will be "Obscured By Clouds". And watch me wave as I say "Wish You Were Here" in "A Momentary Lapse of Reason"

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    Quote Originally Posted by phelan1777
    HA.

    I have........2X MCW60s, that is 4, MCW30 - 2 more, Res = 2, pump =2, CPU block =2, and RAD =2 that is 14 points of connection :-P. AND a bleeder tube, not to mention the RES has 2 more ports with caps, so that is........17 openings.

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    lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Spawne32
    my head is spinning trying to figure out which way the flow goes on that thing, i may have to take some advil
    ok so lemme see if can lay it out...

    .....pump........
    ..../.......\......
    ..CPU....BGA...
    ...|........|......
    .GPU...chipset
    ...\......../......
    ....radiator......
    ......res........

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    Quote Originally Posted by stormshadow
    lol



    ok so lemme see if can lay it out...

    .....pump........
    ..../.......\......
    ..CPU....BGA...
    ...|........|......
    .GPU...chipset
    ...\......../......
    ....radiator......
    ......res........
    ok thats better

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    No, I'm afraid that's entirely wrong.

    Never, EVER put blocks in parallel, especially if they're different blocks.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bloody_Sorcerer
    flowrate is for losers!
    Quote Originally Posted by MaxxxRacer
    Thermaltake is kind of like AIDS; it won't go away just by ignoring it.

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    all wired up


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    Quote Originally Posted by creidiki
    No, I'm afraid that's entirely wrong.

    Never, EVER put blocks in parallel, especially if they're different blocks.
    not in this case. 1/4" offshoot to two different blocks may have a slight effect on the main 7/16" loop but there's no "NEVER EVER" situation here...


    now a Y fitting w/ equal 7/16" tubing running parallel may be a different story... but in this case, the "F" barbs allow for a 1/4" offshoot loop... and it allows that loop to run at it's own pace. Meaning the water can enter and exit that loop at its own speed to join up with the main loop
    Last edited by stormshadow; 01-30-2007 at 12:17 PM.

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    The 1/4 offshoot wont get any water.

    Water follows the path of least resistance. It works (just about) with just the VRAM block on it...
    Quote Originally Posted by Bloody_Sorcerer
    flowrate is for losers!
    Quote Originally Posted by MaxxxRacer
    Thermaltake is kind of like AIDS; it won't go away just by ignoring it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creidiki
    The 1/4 offshoot wont get any water.

    Water follows the path of least resistance. It works (just about) with just the VRAM block on it...
    not under pressure though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stormshadow
    not under pressure though...

    Still not a good idea, you won't get the performance you want or are thinking you could get.

    Seperate pump/blocks/tubing.
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    So please return to the "Darkside of the Moon" and check your "Pulse" while you wait for the "Animals" that will be "Obscured By Clouds". And watch me wave as I say "Wish You Were Here" in "A Momentary Lapse of Reason"

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    nope.. not going down multiple pumps route with this setup...

    it works. which is really all that matters...

    it may not hit OPTIMAL flow rate or cool as good as a dual pump dual loop setup but then again PC building / modding / watercooling has a lot of compromises.

    I could get me a G70 case and put the farm in there but I was looking for a squat compact box that does what I need it to do... so i built it.

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    You will get *some* flow, because resistance goes up with flowrate, so a small % of the total will go through the 1/4 - as minimal flowrate through the 1/4 pipe encounters minimal resistance - but the curve for resistance/flowrate is far steeper and 1/4 tube is generally over 8 times as restrictive anyway, even in the most ideal conditions, so I really wonder if it'll be enough.

    Pressure has nothing to do with it, water is basically incompressible, and anyway pressure above/below the pump only affects how much restriction the pump is able to push through (the impeller creates pressure against the volute which creates flow, and the pressure differential between the inlet and outlet of the pump pulls liquid through your blocks)

    The only thing that matters to the components in the loop themseleves is flowrate.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bloody_Sorcerer
    flowrate is for losers!
    Quote Originally Posted by MaxxxRacer
    Thermaltake is kind of like AIDS; it won't go away just by ignoring it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creidiki
    You will get *some* flow, because resistance goes up with flowrate, so a small % of the total will go through the 1/4 - as minimal flowrate through the 1/4 pipe encounters minimal resistance - but the curve for resistance/flowrate is far steeper and 1/4 tube is generally over 8 times as restrictive anyway, even in the most ideal conditions, so I really wonder if it'll be enough.

    Pressure has nothing to do with it, water is basically incompressible, and anyway pressure above/below the pump only affects how much restriction the pump is able to push through (the impeller creates pressure against the volute which creates flow, and the pressure differential between the inlet and outlet of the pump pulls liquid through your blocks)

    The only thing that matters to the components in the loop themseleves is flowrate.
    listen dude - i respect your information and all but hear me out.....

    are "F" fittings the first thing people should choose to run in a setup needing multiple loops?
    No.

    Does it do the trick in a case that is barely taller than an ATX mobo?
    Yes.

    Am I getting good temps?
    I'd say so.

    My clock still stable?
    Yes.

    don't know why all the friction then...
    Last edited by stormshadow; 01-30-2007 at 01:09 PM.

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    Keep a REALLY close eye on your NB temps.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bloody_Sorcerer
    flowrate is for losers!
    Quote Originally Posted by MaxxxRacer
    Thermaltake is kind of like AIDS; it won't go away just by ignoring it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stormshadow
    nope.. not going down multiple pumps route with this setup...

    it works. which is really all that matters...

    it may not hit OPTIMAL flow rate or cool as good as a dual pump dual loop setup but then again PC building / modding / watercooling has a lot of compromises.

    I could get me a G70 case and put the farm in there but I was looking for a squat compact box that does what I need it to do... so i built it.

    Well yeah you can't argue that, well all do what we can, cause well most of us don't have a choice.
    fermiNow Dave will see FERMI where ever I go
    Quote Originally Posted by jbartlett323 View Post
    So please return to the "Darkside of the Moon" and check your "Pulse" while you wait for the "Animals" that will be "Obscured By Clouds". And watch me wave as I say "Wish You Were Here" in "A Momentary Lapse of Reason"

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