Take 4: Nvidia 680i SLI mobo in the house. First look downunder.

[nugzo]

I didn't have SATA/RAID Issues the first week i had the board. When they started they wouldn't stop. I have my fingers crossed that this 3rd board is ok.

[S1mon-]

Your E6300 is at 66 degrees on full load isn't that high? I was getting 62-64 with my E6600 at 3,0 Ghz with the intel stock cooler and I was really scared to burn something :P

[dinos22]

Your E6300 is at 66 degrees on full load isn't that high? I was getting 62-64 with my E6600 at 3,0 Ghz with the intel stock cooler and I was really scared to burn something :P

B1 CPUs report higher than B2.........the stock cooler is from older pentiums as well not the new ones

[Revv23]

66 degrees isnt even getting started with C2D temps.

[S1mon-]

So what temperature should I target as "dangerous" for my retail E6600 if my motherboard is pretty cool (~32-36 degrees) ?

[dinos22]

So what temperature should I target as "dangerous" for my retail E6600 if my motherboard is pretty cool (~32-36 degrees) ?

i don't know

i don't really care about temps as long as it's stable for whatever i'm benching

24/7 3Ghz conroe is more than plenty for most people....you can drop vcore and keep at at 50C and that's it if you're concerned

going OT in my own thread lol.......need to bench tonight to get a fix

[rick_fx]

So what temperature should I target as "dangerous" for my retail E6600 if my motherboard is pretty cool (~32-36 degrees) ?

At "dangerous" temps, your CPU will throttle (at 85C)

Under 85C, don't worry about the temps

[spookz]

hello fellow sydney-ian~ nice work! lucky you! i've just recieved my P5N32-E SLI mobo today~ =P

[dinos22]

here is something useful i found out just now

i received my fatbody RAM i bought on ebay recently

MIND YOU THE ****ING POSTMAN JUST HAMMERED IT IN THE LETTERBOX HALF STICKING OUT ON A BUSY ROAD ALL FARKING DAY LONG

anyways

the stick absolutely refused to work single or dual channel on both of my boards >>i tried everything..........even booting with HZs and raising vdimm and fixing up timings and all........NOTHING would work so i almost gave up on the damn sticks

i tested the sticks on both Asus P5B Deluxe and EVGA 680i

well i kind of noticed that the little gold plates were a little shorter than other RAM i had so i thought i might install the RAM all the way and then slightly release the RAM latches to raise the RAM up a little in case there was some shorting and GUESS WHAT..................RAM WORKS in both Asus and EVGA boards with this trick

picture says a thousand words

and it works LOL

who says

2.2vdimm




lol the PI time is similar to Opterons at ~3GHz heheh

here is the height difference between normal seated RAM (in the middle) and the slightly "lifted" RAM

[Viss]

Nice find Dinos, this is goin to make some people very happy

[dinos22]

500MHz FSB with 1M SuperPI

i forgot to take off CPUz validation off the computer.....will do tomorrow



DETAILED BIOS SHOTS

The motherboard has a windows boot FSB WALL at 449MHz FSB so i clockgened past that

This is with P21 bios which i upgraded through windows as i didn't have floppies lying around heheh nor the drive itself

[dinos22]

Use a SATA drive so you will have all the same issues that mostly everyone else has. Better yet run RAID. I'll send you 2 new 80GB sata drives if you need em. Then you wont be excited. Sorry i'm a little upset at nvidia right now b/c of all the issues with this exact EVGA board It's a strange thing though that NONE of the reviewers of this exact board ever experience these issues during reviews. I guess if they did, and gave bad review, they wouldn't get anymore free toys to play with.

Presentation looks great so far though. Good Job!!

When my EVGA is actually working, it smokes my Striker. You should have alot of fun with this board if you do not use SATA or RAID. It Overclocks really well.

hi mate

i've just received news from nvidia that they are about to announce a statement about the SATA problem that they are aware of it, identified it and are working to resolve it so that's good news for you and others with such problems

[mouawad]

that was announced ages ago on the evga forums, not exactly breaking news.

a fix would be breaking news

[dinos22]

that was announced ages ago on the evga forums, not exactly breaking news.

a fix would be breaking news

i got the email 14hours ago....i don't check them in the morning you know what i mean for me it was breaking 10 minutes ago

NVIDIA is aware of SATA hard drive issues involving 680i-based motherboards. We’re working on a statement that we expect to release to the public in a matter of hours, that informs people we have identified a problem and we’re working to resolve it.

.................................

I just wanted to give you a heads up that we’re working on it and we should have it for you shortly.

[dinos22]

did a fair bit of SuperPI

i will upload some pics soon but it basically boils down to this

680i from limited testing time seems SLOWER than the 965 chipset motherboard i have while operating at 1067 strap >> superPI performance of course

the RAM overclocking is roughly the same between the two boards so either my Asus 965 board is a monster RAM clocker or 680i falls short of what i've seen some other members report (that 680i clocks RAM further)

[dinos22]

ok so i'm comparing 680i times with these

screenshots are pretty explanatory with both 965 and 680i based motherboard tests

SuperPI Notes:

just in case people didn't realise yet Asus P5B Deluxe motherboard's got some issues with tight latencies such as this example

3-3-3-x 400MHz 1:1 IS SLOWER than 4-4-4-x







Another ISSUE with the board is that 4:5 RAM divider doesn't run properly so you can't take advantage of higher clocked RAM unless you can do 1200+MHz with it heheh

Dropping multiplier is an option BUT you are going into 1333 strap which has a BAD impact on performance so it's best to stay within 1067 strap (basically BOOT to <400MHz FSB and clockgen up as far as it's stable)

1M SuperPI 3.6GHz CPU + 400MHz RAM 4-4-4-8 timings FATBODY RAM


32M SuperPI 3.6GHz CPU + 400MHz RAM 4-4-4-8 timings FATBODY RAM


32M SuperPI 3.6GHz CPU + 400MHz RAM 4-4-4-12 timings G.Skill HZ RAM Default timings


32M SuperPI 3.6GHz CPU + 400MHz RAM 4-4-4-5 timings G.Skill HZ RAM Tightened timings


32M SuperPI 3.6GHz CPU + 400MHz RAM 3-3-3-4 timings G.Skill HZ RAM Even Tightened timings


1M SuperPI 3.6GHz CPU + 500MHz RAM 4-4-4-8 timings G.Skill HZ RAM


32M SuperPI 3.6GHz CPU + 500MHz RAM 4-4-4-8 timings G.Skill HZ RAM


1M SuperPI 3.6GHz CPU + 550MHz RAM 4-4-4-8 timings G.Skill HZ RAM


32M SuperPI 3.6GHz CPU + 550MHz RAM 4-4-4-8 timings G.Skill HZ RAM

[GrimReaper]

good work dino

if you got the time, i would like to see how well this motherobard does with 4gb ram

[dinos22]

good work dino

if you got the time, i would like to see how well this motherobard does with 4gb ram

hey that's a good idea

i might semistick in my fatties and HZs and see what happens

just need time

[nealh]

what is the SATA issue in nonraid...
I only have SATA drives now

[Lestat]

sata issues are involving, Raid, non raid and mixing raid and non raid.

and the statement made to the guys over at H by nvidia was that its a driver issue and i can 100% call their freaking bluff on that.

if you run regular Sata (no raid) drivers are not needed for the sata to work properly. the issues are still there but worse.
there are only two possibilities, a bios fook up or a hardware screw up.
with all that i know of sata, hardware, and mobo's and chipset, this is 98% the hardwares fault and can not be repaired by a bios or driver.

if this was true they would have released a fix by now, but they cant fix it with a bios or driver. and, now this is only me, i highly doubt it can be fixed, they will have to release a new rev of mobo as the southbridges are faulty since it doesnt happen to everyone.

they need to freakin dump that a$$hole 590 southbridge. its retarded, its the same crappy south bridge that had issues before.


dinos i am SHOCKED you have the 450mhz FSB limitation. i was unaware that 2meg L2 cpus (6400 and 6300) were suffering from this. i thought it was only 6600 6700 6800 because of the 4meg L2.

i have had 2 of these boards, both at the 450mhz issue and the Sata/Raid issue.

once again i am 100% believing that this is a faulty NB. thus they produces a sh|t load of motherboards with bad silicon on the NB and SB.

my $140 gigabye DS3 was able to run 500mhz, this board is 100% waste of money if you plan on doing any serious cpu overclocking.
its super for ram clocking, but it is total sh|t for cpu clocking.
not to mention the pci bus is not locked, and when you raise the pci-e bus the pci bus raises also.

[dinos22]

i tested TTBT + E6600ES B1 + new 190CFM fan + new PSU (Delta RPS-700-2) from some server heheheh

well results are good....CPU OCs OK but motherboard SuperPI performance is substandard......

CPU OCs the same on this board as P5B Deluxe....i mean same vcore, vdimm, frequencies and all...which is a good thing

~1.38V Load prime 3.6GHz




3.6GHz 32M SuperPI 400MHz on RAM 4-4-4-x
i think B1 stepping is a little slower than B2


3.6GHz 32M SuperPI 550MHz on RAM 4-4-4-12 plus auto (loose subtimings)


3.6GHz 32M SuperPI 550MHz on RAM 4-4-4-8 plus auto (tightened subtimings and voila 20 seconds difference in time )


3.6GHz 32M SuperPI 550MHz on RAM 4-4-4-8 plus auto (tightened subtimings with minimised SPI windows heh....few seconds gain not bad)....i feel like puking looking at these superpi times of course........seriously i've had 13m5xs with a freaking allendale at 3.8GHz and that was only because ram was 1:1 as well otherwise it would have been another 30 seconds faster )


I seriously don't know WTF is going on with this motherboard...........i also did a 3.95GHz 32M....well it crashed on the 24th loop
***3.9Ghz 32M SuperPI 14m 55.547s 434MHz 4-4-4-8



DUAL 32M at 3.825Ghz SuperPI 20m 03-13s 425MHz 4-4-4-8 >>>> i've used same vcore on all runs up to 3.9GHz and that's 1.55v bios......1.5v windows idle and 1.48v windows load.......for some reason anything past 1.55v in bios and the CPU or mobo just didn't like it..... ...i think it's motherboard as i've give this CPU as much as 1.675v with Asus P5B Deluxe without that much of a hassle



3.869Ghz DUAL 32M SuperPI 20m 430MHz 4-4-4-8 (3.9Ghz crash half way....3.88GHz completed but CPUz stuffed up and i couldn't be bothered redoing it)



4014MHz 1M SuperPI is as far as i got tonight.........4030MHz crashed on last loop

[dinos22]

Also there is a problem with PS2 mouse and keyboard……….if you are stressing the system at say 3.6Ghz 1.4V which is stable on both asus and seems stable on 680i the mouse point just starts jumping all over the place………if more vcore is added and system stressed the mouse pointer was so erratic that I had to hit reset button. I found a USB mouse and keyboard and it all went away……..

[dinos22]

i installed P24 bios guys....don't know if you've seen it on eVGA site or not

looks pretty good...i could not improve my CAS4 clocks with CAS5 before....so my highest benches were around 550MHz


check it out boys

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=163672





8M superPI 600MHz 2.5vdimm 5-5-5-15 timings




32M superPI 600MHz 2.5vdimm 5-5-5-15 timings




DUAL 32M superPI 600MHz 2.5vdimm 5-5-5-15 timings

[dinos22]

bump in clocks

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=163677





1M superPI 621MHz 2.5vdimm 5-5-5-15 timings




8M superPI 621MHz 2.5vdimm 5-5-5-15 timings




1M superPI 625MHz 2.5vdimm 5-5-5-15 timings






what the heck i just did DUAL 32M superPI 625MHz 2.5vdimm 5-5-5-15 timings DDR1250 faints lol







4M superPI 630MHz 2.5vdimm 5-5-5-15 timings





didn't have much time...........went to 641MHz and it crashed on me

[dinos22]

OK i was bored watching funniest home videos and thought what the heck i'll give my E6600 a bit of a rub

i used 180grit (mostly), a little 360grit and straight to 1200 grit for a quick finish














LOL the last image doesn't look that bad....bloody camera macro is a bit too good









oh yeah i discovered something new today.........multiple file upload with imageshack

rulezzzzzz