ATi R600 Card Re-Design In Progress

[[LCN]Knowledge]

Old joke becoming true?

tt LMAOOOOOOOOOO hahahaha, gosh man i guess i on my pants.

God these videocard of today are just ridiculously BIG, i mean 12 inches? in a few months we will have to use feet and meter for the length... and Ultra Tower Cases

[Sheik]

Was going to be longer than a 8800GTX

Darn I'm going to need an ATI Crossfire certified case as well now

[Revv23]

Few, i thought it was a core redesign, which would have meant big delays.

This is just a PCB redesign, i feel like they just had a long pcb for the beta cards, and the shorter one was bound to happen... i mean reall, no way they would have release a 12 inch card

Too bad about the 8 pin power plug, would be nice if its compatible with current 6 pin power plugs like the 8800. No one likes having to upgrade a psu just for new connectors.

[ANP !!!]

Soon you'll plug your motherboard in your Graphiccard...J/K...or am I ?

Quote of the Year

[Syn.]

Sadly you may be correct

Why dont they make a GPU Co-Porcessor and just stick on a Quadfather mobo and then they can release GDDR4 sticks of ram for us to stick in the slots. Maybe even do an Intel and glue two GPU's on to one base and have constant crossfire?

That should make some room in our cases dont you think?


Oh and they are probably thinking that the reason why ATi is not releasing the cards now becouse they have to redsign it, who ever said the design was finnished in the first place? Its all bla bla we will still see X2k cards in time for Vista.

[artissco]

Soon you'll plug your motherboard in your Graphiccard...J/K...or am I ?

and you will need another quad-core cpu for yor videocard....

[ahmad]

It is a card redesign and not a GPU redesign...

[Eastcoasthandle]

Why are we not seeing digital PWM

[K404]

Heh thats the least of our worries!

I reallllly hope the "2x4" pin connectors are 2 molex, and not a new type of plug. An ATX revision just for a GPU? Well....i`ve heard worse

[LenniZ]

dude.. the 8800GTX is frikkin long and the R600 was supposed to be LONGER?!

omg, I miss the X800XT, loved that card.

[rapty]

Makeing them all a bit to long, Widening would be more sensible and as the guy mentioned above Digital PWM's would cut down alot of the clutter the amount of Power and Space they are takeing for one upmanship games is getting beyond the point of worth while for the Consumer even if it is a new generation.

[Mr. Popo]

Isn't it possible to design a single GPU dual PCB video card? I mean, instead of making them longer, just cut them in half.

[satein]

Isn't it possible to design a single GPU dual PCB video card? I mean, instead of making them longer, just cut them in half.

Yes, it is possible. But with such not a complex PCB. Also, 2 stack PCBs would cost more on assembly line and more problem on QC, QA and testing too. The assembly process would be far more complex to a single PCB design as you need to handle both the card and stack them up each other.

[Turtle 1]

dude.. the 8800GTX is frikkin long and the R600 was supposed to be LONGER?!

omg, I miss the X800XT, loved that card.

Were did this come from. Who says R600 was suppose to be longer than G80gtx? This whole story smells of AEG. The cards sent out to game developers aren't indicative what a retail card would be like. This is more AEG prapaganda. Much like the other distorted information put out by AEG concerning companies that employ AEG.

There has been a little negative talk about the length of the G80gtx. So Aeg or NV fanboys make up stories about ATI's cards being 12" long and ATI is redoing them to be = to or shorter than G80gtx.

ANYONE got a link to a R600 finished card. The game developers can't talk about the cards they recieved as they are under nda. Those cards were put out simply for the purpose of debugging games.

The VR-Zone gets things wrong way more than the inquirer. Were did Vr-Zone gets its info? It seems to me the editor of VR-zone is employed by AEG. If you know Some of the Companies that Employ Aeg . It fits with what the Vr-Zone puts out.

[Revv23]

Were did this come from. Who says R600 was suppose to be longer than G80gtx? This whole story smells of AEG. The cards sent out to game developers aren't indicative what a retail card would be like. This is more AEG prapaganda. Much like the other distorted information put out by AEG concerning companies that employ AEG.

There has been a little negative talk about the length of the G80gtx. So Aeg or NV fanboys make up stories about ATI's cards being 12" long and ATI is redoing them to be = to or shorter than G80gtx.

ANYONE got a link to a R600 finished card. The game developers can't talk about the cards they recieved as they are under nda. Those cards were put out simply for the purpose of debugging games.

The VR-Zone gets things wrong way more than the inquirer. were did Vr-Zone gets its info. It seems to me the editor of VR-zone is employed by AEG. If you know Some of the Companies that Employ Aeg . It fits with what the Vr-Zone puts out.

Thank you, i agree completly. Just what i said.

[Turtle 1]

Thank you, i agree completly. Just what i said.

I try to read everyones post. You can never tell when you can pick up a gem.

You snook one in on me now this post makes no sense.LOL

[Vengure]

Cards are getting more and more rediculous they need to use lower nm chips or somthing to increas effiency :-p

[Dimitriman]

"shorter" is quite an ambiguous term here don't you think?

[rapty]

lol depends on how you use it

[Revv23]

I try to read everyones post. You can never tell when you can pick up a gem.

You snook one in on me now this post makes no sense.LOL

Hey no i wasn't calling you out, you explained alot better then me and it's good to see not everyone is buying into this PR game.



AS for didgital PWM, its more expensive, hotter, and harder to design. Not to meniton it may not free up as much space as you think as the card will still need just as many traces.

[DilTech]

Were did this come from. Who says R600 was suppose to be longer than G80gtx? This whole story smells of AEG. The cards sent out to game developers aren't indicative what a retail card would be like. This is more AEG prapaganda. Much like the other distorted information put out by AEG concerning companies that employ AEG.

Ah yes, you again...

Just thought I'd be the one to tell you, AEG is no more. Go ahead and run a search. Here's the beyond 3d thread where they talked about AEG and their website and whatnot... Try any of the urls for AEG.

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showth...t=26199&page=1

Their website was AEGInfo.com, notice the old site is gone, since then it's been registered to someone else. That's because AEG isn't there anymore.

This use to be their other website.
http://www.aegmarketing.com/
It's now a entertainment marketing company.

Both are no longer with AEG Internet marketing.

There has been a little negative talk about the length of the G80gtx. So Aeg or NV fanboys make up stories about ATI's cards being 12" long and ATI is redoing them to be = to or shorter than G80gtx.

I'm going to just flat out say it... At it's smallest it'd be equal in size to the 8800GTX.... That's at it's smallest.

ANYONE got a link to a R600 finished card. The game developers can't talk about the cards they recieved as they are under nda. Those cards were put out simply for the purpose of debugging games.

You won't see a picture of a card from any developers. Developer cards generally never leave the office of the developer, and no developer is going to risk their job, or being sued, on being the first one on the net with a "picture" of the R600.

Also, they're not just for the purpose of optimizing games on them, they're for debugging the cards. Finding anything wrong with them and reporting back to ATi.

The VR-Zone gets things wrong way more than the inquirer. Were did Vr-Zone gets its info? It seems to me the editor of VR-zone is employed by AEG. If you know Some of the Companies that Employ Aeg . It fits with what the Vr-Zone puts out.

No one gets things wrong more than the inquirer...You're talking about a site who said china was going to buy out microsoft for gods sake. The same site was swearing the G80 would be a 48 pixel shader non-unified part til what, 3 weeks before launch?

VR-Zone was the ONLY site who handed up the correct specs on the 8800GTX, where they only had ONE aspect wrong, the ram.

Yes, they've gotten things wrong, but they've gotten a lot right too.

To say this is just an AEG and NVidia coverup has got to be....well.....I'd say the dumbest thing you've said yet, but your next post is going to be even worse anyway.

[Turtle 1]

Hey no i wasn't calling you out, you explained alot better then me and it's good to see not everyone is buying into this PR game.



AS for didgital PWM, its more expensive, hotter, and harder to design. Not to meniton it may not free up as much space as you think as the card will still need just as many traces.

I was referring to your edit. You did it befor I seen your final reply. You know what I mean. I know you weren't calling me out. Its just that when I edit 99% of the time its spelling. What you edited wasn't a bad thing in anyway. You just reconsidered it. But I replied to what you edited out. LOL

[rapty]

Ah yes, you again...

Just thought I'd be the one to tell you, AEG is no more. Go ahead and run a search. Here's the beyond 3d thread where they talked about AEG and their website and whatnot... Try any of the urls for AEG.

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showth...t=26199&page=1

Their website was AEGInfo.com, notice the old site is gone, since then it's been registered to someone else. That's because AEG isn't there anymore.

This use to be their other website.
http://www.aegmarketing.com/
It's now a entertainment marketing company.

Both are no longer with AEG Internet marketing.



I'm going to just flat out say it... At it's smallest it'd be equal in size to the 8800GTX.... That's at it's smallest.



You won't see a picture of a card from any developers. Developer cards generally never leave the office of the developer, and no developer is going to risk their job, or being sued, on being the first one on the net with a "picture" of the R600.

Also, they're not just for the purpose of optimizing games on them, they're for debugging the cards. Finding anything wrong with them and reporting back to ATi.



No one gets things wrong more than the inquirer...You're talking about a site who said china was going to buy out microsoft for gods sake. The same site was swearing the G80 would be a 48 pixel shader non-unified part til what, 3 weeks before launch?

VR-Zone was the ONLY site who handed up the correct specs on the 8800GTX, where they only had ONE aspect wrong, the ram.

Yes, they've gotten things wrong, but they've gotten a lot right too.

To say this is just an AEG and NVidia coverup has got to be....well.....I'd say the dumbest thing you've said yet, but your next post is going to be even worse anyway.

lol

[Turtle 1]

Ah yes, you again...

Just thought I'd be the one to tell you, AEG is no more. Go ahead and run a search. Here's the beyond 3d thread where they talked about AEG and their website and whatnot... Try any of the urls for AEG.

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showth...t=26199&page=1

Their website was AEGInfo.com, notice the old site is gone, since then it's been registered to someone else. That's because AEG isn't there anymore.

This use to be their other website.
http://www.aegmarketing.com/
It's now a entertainment marketing company.

Both are no longer with AEG Internet marketing.



I'm going to just flat out say it... At it's smallest it'd be equal in size to the 8800GTX.... That's at it's smallest.



You won't see a picture of a card from any developers. Developer cards generally never leave the office of the developer, and no developer is going to risk their job, or being sued, on being the first one on the net with a "picture" of the R600.

Also, they're not just for the purpose of optimizing games on them, they're for debugging the cards. Finding anything wrong with them and reporting back to ATi.



No one gets things wrong more than the inquirer...You're talking about a site who said china was going to buy out microsoft for gods sake. The same site was swearing the G80 would be a 48 pixel shader non-unified part til what, 3 weeks before launch?

VR-Zone was the ONLY site who handed up the correct specs on the 8800GTX, where they only had ONE aspect wrong, the ram.

Yes, they've gotten things wrong, but they've gotten a lot right too.

To say this is just an AEG and NVidia coverup has got to be....well.....I'd say the dumbest thing you've said yet, but your next post is going to be even worse anyway.

1) So AEG has gone anonymous and have changed their anomlous big deal their still around.
2) Your statement: I'm going to just flat out say it...[ At it's smallest it'd be equal in size to the 8800GTX.... That's at it's smallest]. I would say you just broke NDA.
3) Again I ask whom do you work for.
4) No one here cares about the cards sent to Game developers for debugging. I am surprized you haven't reported the clock speeds of those cards. Even tho we know that it wouldn't be indicative of retail cards.

[rapty]

why do you care about ATI NDA's, ATI Fanboy?