FSB 602 is easy? ASUS P5BDeluxe Chip 965C2 FSB 602

[Rudyn]

Nice, definitely getting this for my Allendale system

Thanks Andre

[Sage]

can you see the c2 revision anywhere printed on the board? or would it be below heatsync?

damnit.. was looking at getting one of these boards next week.. now i dont know what to do

[Spacemaster]

Eny beter performanse with memory bandwidth than C1?

[misteroadster]

André can you explain me the poor pi time ?

14.65 is really slow for 3.6ghz regardless of the memory timings, i've got 14.1 at 9X400 4/4/4/4 (DDR1000), 14.3 at 9X400 6/6/6/6 (DDR1000).

I've done same 14.65 with : 9X387 (DDR966) 6/6/6/18 and without os optimisation.

Is this the results of the FSB war between Asus and Gigabyte ?
Quartz modded ?

Sorry for this thread crapping but it's impossible for me to reproduce your time with the worst timings possible and 9X400, i just need an allendale to match

[Tony]

I would still like to see max dual channel, and the poor performance at these high fsb's is kida killin the point of running them.

Don't get me wrong 600fsb is nice but if you are forced to run 1 dimm and timings as slack as a bulls @$$ whats the friggin point??

[AndreYang]

I would still like to see max dual channel, and the poor performance at these high fsb's is kida killin the point of running them.

Don't get me wrong 600fsb is nice but if you are forced to run 1 dimm and timings as slack as a bulls @$$ whats the friggin point??

Did you make DDR2 1200 memory to me? I am glad that I help you test dual channel DDR2 1200.

[misteroadster]

Even with one stick and the worst timings possible , i can't do 14.65 @ 9x400 (DDR 1000).

Asus and gigabyte are not fair for us, those 600Mhz FSB seems not real.

André can you compare max cpu clock on this mobo and another retail , i think it should do 150Mhz better because of unreal frequency caused by changing the quartz.

Edit : BTW andré, why don't you create a new thread or updated this one when you reached 610 Mhz ?
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=121143
Do you think this result is unfair to publish it here ?

[jmax_oc]

Fake like coolaler on this thread :
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=114600&page=4

[cpulloverclock]

I prefer a real FSB with a NB rev C1 than a C2 at 600FSB + and very poor scores...

no comment

too bad

[Fixxxer]

I prefer a real FSB with a NB rev C1 than a C2 at 600FSB + and very poor scores...

no comment

too bad

QFT

[Blacklash]

Thanks for the info, Andre.

I don't think I will be buying anymore mobos for awhile though. I already have too many.

[AndreYang]

Fake like coolaler on this thread :
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=114600&page=4

So you think CPUZ Verified is faked?

Don't forget the key point. This is not 965C1 chip. P5B Deluxe 1.04G 965C2 will be stronger than 965C1.

[Dumo]

Nice ...Now those PC8888 rams got their mobo

[775911]

Are real applications like dvdshrink and maybe winrar equally bad?

[Rubiconx3]

Wow i wish mine could do that. Maybe ill pick up that new revision

[theteamaqua]

i tihnk its real but this guy makes a good point:

Shouldn't the thread be titled "602 FSB is easy on cherry picked hardware"?

Not trolling, but thread titles like this give the wrong impression. Or maybe we're supposed to just treat all XIP reviews with a grain of salt?

is this one of those xip skill only thing? or just knowledged people with the same setup that can reach 600fsb , too??

also tony from OCZ suggest that its running at 1600fsb strap , so the performance is extremely poor

[Blacklash]

I am rolling back to 975x and an E6600 myself. I don't feel like doing a clockgen up to my OC everytime I boot to avoid the 1333 strap post 400FSB.

I tested as others have, and my rig is definitely faster by setting 399 x 8 with the required voltages for 3.72 in the BIOS then doing a clockgen up to that speed in windows.

[jmax_oc]

So you think CPUZ Verified is faked?

Don't forget the key point. This is not 965C1 chip. P5B Deluxe 1.04G 965C2 will be stronger than 965C1.

Look your spi time.
Although in 9x400 ram 600MHz 6-6-6-18 single we can't do bad like you.

Can you explain why ?

[hicookie]

i tihnk its real but this guy makes a good point:




is this one of those xip skill only thing? or just knowledged people with the same setup that can reach 600fsb , too??

also tony from OCZ suggest that its running at 1600fsb strap , so the performance is extremely poor

yup,cherry pick, and the asus'rd version,if 602 is "easy",push more fsb to 650 is not that hard,right??or asus 'rd can push that, and andre post the results, like last time

[Tony]

i tihnk its real but this guy makes a good point:




is this one of those xip skill only thing? or just knowledged people with the same setup that can reach 600fsb , too??

also tony from OCZ suggest that its running at 1600fsb strap , so the performance is extremely poor

I don't think 1600 exists yet but they can losen the internal latency tons to get it running that high.

the MCH is being pushed real hard and i doubt it would even run dual channel, infact it won't run a 1gig dimm even as the load is too high.

This 600fsb is just marketing BS for me...real performance is from 467 and upto 533 and everyone knows it

[AndreYang]

Look your spi time.
Although in 9x400 ram 600MHz 6-6-6-18 single we can't do bad like you.

Can you explain why ?

P5B Deluxe in high FSB is not faster than FSB 400 because ASUS change memory low timming for high FSB.

Tonly already said in few weeks ago. Everyone knows it.

[AndreYang]

yup,cherry pick, and the asus'rd version,if 602 is "easy",push more fsb to 650 is not that hard,right??or asus 'rd can push that, and andre post the results, like last time

Who said P5B Deluxe cannot be over FSB 500+ in 2 month ago? So now?

Can you promise P5B-D 1.04G Retail is hard to over FSB 600 when it would be available on the market?

I will see many people can do FSB 600 when P5B Deluxe 1.04G is coming on the market.

[Revv23]

Hey Andre, this is pretty nice. Good work and thanks for the preview.

Can you tell me, will chips that hit an FSB wall be helped at all with the C2 chip? Or did you have to try a few different chips before you hit 600fsb? My e6300 runs 510x7 stable at 1.45 but it wont boot or clockgen to 520, no matter what.

Wish people would stop bashing on this, all we ever talk aobut here is how high a boards fsb can go, then andre makes 600 and we all tell him it doesnt matter.

P.S. - A bit off topic but can anyone tell me if hte vcore/vdroop mods help getting your cpu fsb up? Thanks.

[AndreYang]

Hey Andre, this is pretty nice. Good work and thanks for the preview.

Can you tell me, will chips that hit an FSB wall be helped at all with the C2 chip? Or did you have to try a few different chips before you hit 600fsb? My e6300 runs 510x7 stable at 1.45 but it wont boot or clockgen to 520, no matter what.

Wish people would stop bashing on this, all we ever talk aobut here is how high a boards fsb can go, then andre makes 600 and we all tell him it doesnt matter.

P.S. - A bit off topic but can anyone tell me if hte vcore/vdroop mods help getting your cpu fsb up? Thanks.

Some 965C1 FSB is not better, such as my P5B-D 965C1 modded MCH is only up to FSB 540~550 1M.

I don't think my 965C2 is the best. Many people will be over FSB 600 when they got retail box P5B-D 1.04G 965C2.

[jmax_oc]

P5B Deluxe in high FSB is not faster than FSB 400 because ASUS change memory low timming for high FSB.

Tonly already said in few weeks ago. Everyone knows it.

Lol don't say so stupid words.

6x600 memory@600 is ALWAYS quicker than 9x400 memory@600.

So : your 14.6xx second at spi 6x600MHz can't be real

Don't try to explain me life and overclocking. I'm sure that you don't know me.
I don't trust you when you say that you reached 600MHz

Next time, at 6x600MHz, please show us a 14,0xxs time at spi
It's better to make us accept your fakes