Mounting Thermochill PA120.3 in Silverstone TJ-07

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I just ordered my new water system from jan tech. Should arrive sometime friday!! YAY!

Anyways, I have a new Silverstone TJ-07 Case. its Shiny! thats besides the point.

My questions are:

Anyone mounted one in this case?

How should I have the air flow?

And I am supposed to mount this on top, will I need to drill extra holes, ect?

Any help is most appreciated.

Edit: Also, I need Ideas for my pump and res also

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See in the Silverstone models, hard drives and PSU go in the bottom..

And this unit WIDE enough for 2 psu side x side in the bottom..

THose 2x 120 fans in the bottom house 2x apartments for hard drives.


What if I remove those, and put the radiator on the bottom,, having air come in the side, and out the other side..

?? Any ideas?

[Clay]

Looks nice sofar... You might check the watercooling case gallery. For idea's. Looks like you might be able to mount your rad inside inderneath. (Pending powersupply placement.)Looks like it might be a close fit though.

Edit: I typed this before you reposted.(Sorry) You'll have to try to fit it all in and see what'll werk. It still might work.

Edit2: It's wide enough for 2# psu's? (It should fit LOL) You may want to move your drive bays.(Like you said) Still havin' the rad inside might be nicer than mounting it on top or on the back. (My case is much smaller and I'm still tryin' to figure what exactly I'm gonna' do.Probably on top on mine)

[zoob]

Yeah mounting the rad on the bottom to have it go through the side and out the other would be great. Keeps it isolated from the rest of your components, and ensures fresh air to the rad

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Yea I am hoping that I can mount it on the bottom. Ill have to take measurements tonight.

I think I would get great cooling if I could do that.

3 x 120's pulling in , and 3x 120's pushing out..
And none of the air leaving the bottom, and It would recieve all clean cool air.
Its like a dream!

[creidiki]

fans in push-pull are pointless on the PA. extra noise for zero performance.

[clokker]

Yes, there is easily enough space (both end to end and side by side) to mount your PSU and a 120.3 rad in the lower chamber.

[septim]

minus those 90degree bends of course...

[clokker]

minus those 90degree bends of course...

Which had zero impact on the loop's performance.

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Clokker do you mind showing me some more pictures?

Hoping the rad comes today. But my question is, any ideas for my hard drive mounts that I have to take off?

Creid: So... just have Pull then? Or Push?

Septim: Guessing 90 degree bends are bad...

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Which had zero impact on the loop's performance.

Do I have room to mount the rad inside the case, and then have the 3x 120's mounted outside the box? and push air in.. ??

[clokker]

Clokker do you mind showing me some more pictures?
Not at all, see here.

Hoping the rad comes today. But my question is, any ideas for my hard drive mounts that I have to take off?
The drives will have to go into the upper optical bay area. Lots of ways to do that.
Creid: So... just have Pull then? Or Push?
There is a marginal difference between the two, use whichever way you like.
Septim: Guessing 90 degree bends are bad...

Yup, no doubt about it- 90 deg fittings will lessen the flowrate.
If you have a marginal setup, they could be the straw that breaks your camel's back.
If not, you won't see any temp difference at all.
Use 'em if you need to, don't use 'em if you don't.
Either way, the difference is negligable.

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Awesome. Thanks for the fast replys!

What is mounted in your case?

[mitftw]

fans in push-pull are pointless on the PA. extra noise for zero performance.

Right, just stick to push..

[creidiki]

No, pull.

[anodynejd]

What temp differnece are we looking at depending on if the fans are push vs. pull? Come on guys it doesn't really matter unless it changes the temp of the water. Which I doubt a fan in the push vs. pull would do. Just aim the air out of your case and you should be fine.

[creidiki]

Youre looking at up to 1-2c with fans @ 5v, in favour of pull.

Please dont insult me by implying that I would give a toss about anything but performance or silence.

Also, the best temps are achieved with the radiator blowing INTO the case, breathing fresh air from outside.

[septim]

Youre looking at up to 1-2c with fans @ 5v, in favour of pull.

and at more volts, another few degrees still in favor of pull...

originally posted by clokker:
Which had zero impact on the loop's performance.

Yup, no doubt about it- 90 deg fittings will lessen the flowrate.

you're contradicting yourself...

[anodynejd]

Youre looking at up to 1-2c with fans @ 5v, in favour of pull.

Please dont insult me by implying that I would give a toss about anything but performance or silence.

Also, the best temps are achieved with the radiator blowing INTO the case, breathing fresh air from outside.

Wow that much of a difference uh. I didn't mean to insult you about you suggesting something for performance. In fact you have a reputation for being a little overkill on what you will do for performance. I just thought that there wouldn't be much difference between push and pull that's all. And IMHO 1-2 degree's isn't anything to get my panties in a bunch about when water cooling. Chances are it isn't going to hurt my hardware any or give me any real overclocking benifit so all it does is feed my ego a little bit knowing my water is 1-2 degrees colder. But I guess that is why this place is xtreme.

[creidiki]

well, 1-2c means you can run pull @ 5v and get the same temps youd get with push @6.5v, say.

considering we routinely spend 30-40$ more over a "good" waterblock and get a storm/mp-05 le instead to gain 1 degree @ load, 1-2c for free is pretty good value for money where I come from...

[exhausted mule]

1-2 degrees difference in say, 6 components will add up....


buts that's not the point.

with a beast of a case like that one i would consider removing the drive bays and having intakes on the rads with an exhaust either straight across or out the back.

there's alot you can do with a big case.

[anodynejd]

well, 1-2c means you can run pull @ 5v and get the same temps youd get with push @6.5v, say.

considering we routinely spend 30-40$ more over a "good" waterblock and get a storm/mp-05 le instead to gain 1 degree @ load, 1-2c for free is pretty good value for money where I come from...

Maybe thats why I was so supprised that the fan orientation would net that big of change. My perspective is a bit different than yours I am coming from air cooling to water cooling. So to see some people complain because they didn't get 1or 2 degrees cooler seams kind of funny to me considering you all are getting great temps compared to what I am used to with air cooling.

[septim]

Also, the best temps are achieved with the radiator blowing INTO the case, breathing fresh air from outside.

his case has his rad up front, to breathe cooler air from front into rad into case
the cooler air of course cools the PA rad a little better, than having warm air go through rad-fan-out of case...

now with 3 intake through rad, the other case fans would be air outlets...

there are lots of fan rad orientation, pros and cons, so basically its your setup
and you get to decide for the better or worse of your case temps...

[jimmyz]

how you layout your cooling system has as much impact as the components you use . shortest loop , coolest air wins every time.