I added the comment to the Dailytech article that you already implemented the detection Cpuz
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=1772
I added the comment to the Dailytech article that you already implemented the detection Cpuz
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=1772
Awesome Franck! Thanks for replying to my PM and fixing it sooo fast You're da manOriginally Posted by cpuz
Really thnx by my side too..Originally Posted by bachus_anonym
Speedy update thereOriginally Posted by cpuz
no problem
I also noticed that ODC only concerns rev E CPUs, but I'm wondering about rev F (I guess yes ?). Anyway, if it works, I put this version in replacement of 1.33.
Concerning the validation process, as soon as a new version is released, the previous versions are not able to validate.
Kudos on getting out a new CPU-z revision out so quickly!
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Well... It's sort of like using half multies.. in some cases where you can't exactly match your memory max and CPU max. And if my understanding is correct, just like this "Odd Divisor Correct", using half multiplier has absolutely no harm to the performance as long as you know what your mem speed is going to be. Yah you won't get the "theoretically correct" memory speed, but if that's the best speed you could get with what you have - CPU multies, HTT limit, Mem limit, Divider choices (especially with non-DFI NF4 boards) - I doubt that there is any harm in running half multi and have been saying that all along.
I don't check my PMs very often.
hey thx for the cpuz update - it's finally over that some stupid ones thinking they hit 330 MHZ with their rams because of the bug
cheers
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Originally Posted by saaya
ouch.Originally Posted by SoF
also, it's a "feature" not a "bug"
Got a fan over those memory sticks? No? Well get to it before you kill them
lol....yes...seems that unless one don't understand the real meaning says it's a bug....Originally Posted by ozzimark
I'm such a newb. I thought by running 366 htt with 3/4 my mem was at 274. I'm in total disbeliefe. My comp just newbed me.
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GSkill GBGH 2x512MB 244MHz 2-2-2-5 1T@3.22v (windows)
GeIL ONE-S TCCD 2x512MB ~ 264MHz 2.5-3-3-7@2.54v (windows) ~ 303MHz 2.5-4-3-7@2.76v (windows)
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The "180MHz" setting is a struggle. I can't figure out if it is actually 180MHz (ratio 10/9) or 183MHz (12/11). cpuz assumes it is 183MHz.
In this case, 11x12/11 = 12 -> CPU/12
If it is 10/9 : 11x10/9 = 12,2 -> CPU/13
Only a memory bandwidth test would tell.
I set divider 180 on bios, so I think my mem run 223mhz, that save to test my cpu max speed at 1.52vOriginally Posted by cpuz
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GSkill GBFX 2x512MB trcd=3 trcd=4
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I changed this recently. Check this thread.
http://forum.x86-secret.com/showthread.php?t=4505
Yes, it is CPU/12 and we have couple threads here that show bandwidth and SuperPi results to prove that. I did some of those, also funkflix and one more person that I remember. I will try to dig that out... Also Everest reports CPU/12.
Thanks for changing that in CPU-Z as well, Franck
so the A64info give error freq ? I try clockgen, that also give cpu/13=223mhzOriginally Posted by bachus_anonym
I will try using superpi
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GSkill GBFX 2x512MB trcd=3 trcd=4
GSkill GBGH 2x512MB 244MHz 2-2-2-5 1T@3.22v (windows)
GeIL ONE-S TCCD 2x512MB ~ 264MHz 2.5-3-3-7@2.54v (windows) ~ 303MHz 2.5-4-3-7@2.76v (windows)
GeIL ONE-S BH-5 2x512MB ~ 244MHz 2-2-2-5@3.22v (windows)
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Where exactly in the BIOS would this option be found to see if its enabled or disabled?
Genie section?
EDIT:
Also, where on CPU-Z does it show if its enabled or not?
"Correction" under the SPD tab?
Last edited by filmbot; 04-26-2006 at 11:38 AM.
Originally Posted by seferio
I agree 100%. I am probably misusing the word "ironic" here, but it's kinda ironic reading that and looking at your sig, since you're claiming 265 htt & memCLK with a 1/2 multi. GG indeed :p
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Guess this is related, I swapped out my 146 CAB2E 0540FPMW cpu for my 148 CABYE 0543FPMW for the higher 11x cpu multiplier and came across a weird thing not sure if it's related to the Odd Divisor Correct (i don't even have it enabled) outlined in this threadOriginally Posted by Tony
When i set speeds to 11x 274HTT with 180 divider A64 Mem divider helper says my ram should be at 231mhz. But in memtest86+ v1.65 bandwidth reports 2943MB/s which i thought was way higher than usual.Originally Posted by RyderOCZ
So i boot into windows and see that cpuz reports my ram @251mhz 2-2-2-5 which would be consistent with 2943MB/s memtest86+ bandwidth reported.
Click on image for full screenie which includes A64info reporting ram should be 231mhz as well.
I see i do have an even number memory divisor of 12 as pointed out in RyderOCZ's quoted post.
Exception to the rule:
So this is the exception to the rule right ? when the 11x cpu multiplier when using 180 divider the memory is probably indeed running with 12 divisor meaning what cpuz v1.33.1 or higher is reporting for mem speed is indeed the correct mem speed ?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...8&postcount=87 and http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...6&postcount=88 and http://forum.x86-secret.com/showthread.php?t=4505
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It's not exception actually. It's something I've been trying to convince Franck (CPU-Z creator) about since summer last year. I'm glad CPU-Z 1.33 finally shows that now... It has nothing to do with Odd Divisor Correct.
At multi x11 and div180, memory speed is CPU/12 and NOT CPU/13 as it would look like from Oscar Wu's table or some monitoring software. Everest has been showing CPU/12 for a long time now. A64Info does not and I think Clockgen has not been updated either.
Ah i see... doing 32M run and yes 11x274htt 180 with 251mhz 2-2-2-5 is on track to have similar ~24min flat time as with 10x300HTT 166 with 250mhz 2-2-2-5 ram heh
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A64Info math is based on Oscar's table. I'm assuming that 180 is actualy 183.00MHz. Same goes for 140 -> 143.00MHz. Only 11 multi is problematic with 180 divider since it is on the edge (12 if you assume 183.333... or 12.02, if you assume 183.00, thus making it 13). I have proposed test to solve this dilemma but no one responded:Originally Posted by bachus_anonym
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...8&postcount=57
This post also convinced me that divider is 13:
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/show...6&postcount=40
My firiend managed to measure bandwidths, but it is only one case:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...9&postcount=59
It is importain to maintain the same memory timings in both tests. Unfortunately, I do not have CPU with 11 multi to test it.
Last edited by lukija; 05-07-2006 at 09:40 AM.
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Originally Posted by lukija
Ran 32M and definitely the ram is running 251mhz at 11x274HTT with 180 divider the time of 23min 54s is spot on for the ram it seems.
Settings used
FSB Bus Frequency: 274
LDT/FSB Frequency Ratio: 4x
CPU/FSB Frequency Ratio: 11x
RD580 HT PLL Speed: High
HT Bus NMOS Drive Strength: 5
HT Bus PMOS Drive Strength: 5
HT Bus Receiver Impendence: 5
CPU HT Bus Drive Strength: Strong
K8 Cool & Quiet Support: Disabled
CPU VID Control: 1.55v
CPU VID Special Control: AUTO
DRAM Voltage Control: 3.4v
SB PCIE Voltage: 1.8v
NB Analogue Voltage: 1.34v
LDT Bus Voltage: 1.34v
NB Core Voltage: 1.34v
DRAM Frequency Set: 180
CPC: Enabled
CAS (tCL): 2
tRCP: 2
tRAS: 5
tRP: 2
tRC: 7
tRFC: 14
tRRD: 2
tRW: 2
tRTW: 1
tWTR: 2
tREF: 4708
Bank Interleaved: Enabled
Errata 94: Disabled
Errata 123: AUTO
Odd Divisor Correct: Disabled
DQS Skew Control: AUTO
DQS Skew Value: N/A
DRAM Drive Strength: 3 (weak)
DRAM Data Drive Strength: 2 (-33%)
DIMM 1/2 Clock Timing Skew: AUTO
DIMM 3/4 Clock Timing Skew: 150ps delay
Max Async Latency: 7ns (tried 6ns but there was a long delay before booting system)
Read Preamble Time: 5ns
IdleCycle Limit: 16clks
Dynamic Counter: Enabled
R/W Queue Bypass: 16x
Bypass Max: 7x
Burst Length: 4
More tests to confirm ram is at 251mhz 2-2-2-5
Everest Home
Read = 7,191 MB/s
Write = 3,300 MB/s
Latency = 36.1 ns
Sandra 2005 Lite SR3
Buffered = 7,508 / 7,445
Unbuffered = 3,574 / 3,777
vs
10x300HTT = 3000mhz
@250mhz 2-2-2-0 7-12-0211 at 3.44v
Memtest86+ v1.65 bandwidth = 3006MB/s
FSB Bus Frequency: 300
LDT/FSB Frequency Ratio: 4x (tried 5x but system didn't boot even with NMOS/PMOS drive strength @31 so dropped it to 4x)
CPU/FSB Frequency Ratio: 10x
RD580 HT PLL Speed: High
HT Bus NMOS Drive Strength: 5
HT Bus PMOS Drive Strength: 5
HT Bus Receiver Impendence: 5
CPU HT Bus Drive Strength: Strong
K8 Cool & Quiet Support: Disabled
CPU VID Control: 1.5v (set higher due to low vcore + high vdimm issue)
CPU VID Special Control: AUTO
DRAM Voltage Control: 3.44v
SB PCIE Voltage: 1.8v
NB Analogue Voltage: 1.34v
LDT Bus Voltage: 1.34v
NB Core Voltage: 1.34v
DRAM Frequency Set: 166
CPC: Enabled
CAS (tCL): 2
tRCP: 2
tRAS: 0
tRP: 2
tRC: 7
tRFC: 12
tRRD: 0
tRW: 2
tRTW: 1
tWTR: 1
tREF: 4708
Bank Interleaved: Enabled
Errata 94: Disabled
Errata 123: AUTO
Odd Divisor Correct: Disabled
DQS Skew Control: AUTO
DQS Skew Value: N/A
DRAM Drive Strength: 3 (weak)
DRAM Data Drive Strength: 2 (-33%)
DIMM 1/2 Clock Timing Skew: AUTO
DIMM 3/4 Clock Timing Skew: 150ps delay
Max Async Latency: 8ns
Read Preamble Time: 4.5ns
IdleCycle Limit: 0clks
Dynamic Counter: Enabled
R/W Queue Bypass: 16x
Bypass Max: 7x
Burst Length: 8
Super Pi v1.5 32M
The above 23min 59.297s time managed to beat my DFI NF4 Ultra-D time of 23min 59.641s.
Everest Home:
Read = 7,142 MB/s
Write = 3,361 MB/s
Latency = 36.2 ns
Sandra 2005 Lite SR3
Buffered = 7,486 / 7,419
Unbuffered = 3,717 / 3,847
Last edited by eva2000; 05-07-2006 at 06:24 PM.
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