AM2 X2 4600+ with DDR2 667 brief test...

[arisythila]

I think it is a software/memory problem.. I think with better memory it will perform ALOT better.

[s7e9h3n]

Looking at Innovation Silicon's PDF news...

http://www.innovativesilicon.com/en/..._isi_final.pdf

They have designs for 65nm z-ram completed as of 2005. This is what i'm thinking we'll see from AMD Q1 '07.

We'll be seeing quad core 65nm Opteron parts buy late q3/early q4 THIS YEAR. Socket F will be going into full swing......

[[cTx]Philosophy]

I think maybe its driver related bus wise, but what do I know..
This is a newer mobo and all, maybe just the driver support for it and a newer amd cpu is not all that great at thit point..

Im just guessing, To me this has been what we've all been waiting for for a long time, and now that we have preliminary results, with no real evidence of the final hardware..

I am gonna wait and see before I dismiss it all as dissapointing news to me..
Every step amd has made as far as new platforms have been a good one, what would make this one a step backwards?

[zabomb4163]

We'll be seeing quad core 65nm Opteron parts buy late q3/early q4 THIS YEAR. Socket F will be going into full swing......

In that case amd looks very attractive this year.

[TurboDiv]

OK im thinking of upgrading this summer so that I can play with my new system. IF you are in my shoes, will you upgrade to AM2 after seeing the benches or just get a socket 939... I don't want to wait after the summer for Conroe cause there is no time to play around after that, Q1 07 is far away ...

[SamHughe]

OK im thinking of upgrading this summer so that I can play with my new system. IF you are in my shoes, will you upgrade to AM2 after seeing the benches or just get a socket 939... I don't want to wait after the summer for Conroe cause there is no time to play around after that, Q1 07 is far away ...

Yes, you can get a great Socket 939 system and play everything you want for a loong time. New platforms almost always buggy and over-expensive when they are first released. Socket 939 is a tested, proven, great platform and will be around for a long time.

[Ruroni]

There are hundreds of of announcements like ZRAM...why are you so sure that this one will become reality ?

In fact , such a design hasn't even taped out.It's still on paper.

Well, as the site states, it is going to be put to use by AMD.

http://www.innovativesilicon.com/en/...n_pr_final.pdf

And its working, on the metal. And s7e9h3n suggests we'll be seeing 65nm this year in the form of multicore. So come this fall AMD will be coming at Intel with a baseball bat.

[ozzimark]

Yes, you can get a great Socket 939 system and play everything you want for a loong time. New platforms almost always buggy and over-expensive when they are first released. Socket 939 is a tested, proven, great platform and will be around for a long time.

it's probably a good thing that not everyone feels the same way as you

if it wasn't for the guys who love testing and playing with new hardware, how would the bugs that make it through the mfg's be found?

as some others might say- this is xtremesystems, not maturesystems

[nn_step]

it's probably a good thing that not everyone feels the same way as you

if it wasn't for the guys who love testing and playing with new hardware, how would the bugs that make it through the mfg's be found?

as some others might say- this is xtremesystems, not maturesystems

Exactly, I would rather deal with those issues now than to have some noob find it six months later..

[arisythila]

hehehe... yeah... Bugs are what we live for....

[ceevee]

We'll be seeing quad core 65nm Opteron parts buy late q3/early q4 THIS YEAR. Socket F will be going into full swing......

Wow that would be really cool.

I was reading at Anandtech however:

"AMD's real transition to 65nm won't occur until far into 2007. When it does happen however, the move to 65nm will bring about smaller die sizes, faster switching transistors and lower power consumption for AMD, just as it has for Intel."

and also this at Anandtech which would seem to support the testing results Victor has gotten so far:

"As you've undoubtedly heard and maybe even seen elsewhere, AMD's AM2 platform has not been performing very well in development over these past couple of months. Just before IDF, AM2 samples were still performing lower than their Socket-939 counterparts, which was beginning to worry us and AMD's parters a bit. However we're excited to report that AM2 performance has finally started exceeding that of Socket-939. The performance gains we've been hearing and seeing are generally 5% or lower at the same clock speeds using DDR2-800"

It will be interesting to see what happens...

[pcdoc1]

Exactly, I would rather deal with those issues now than to have some noob find it six months later..

And when do you think you may deal with anything? You don’t test, you don’t post any real results that you accomplish (except what you occasionally PhotoChop as currently displayed in the Extreme Bandwidth thread), you continually post crap that you cut & paste from somewhere else with little to no comprehension of what you read and how it relates to the topic at hand, and you are now approaching 6000 post in 7 months of bullshyt and nonsense… Clearly any noob has a better chance of finding a problem than you do… By the way, how often do you change that sig because you’re always waiting on something!

Edit: I apologize to the posters in this thread for going OT. I’m just so fed up with this guys bullshyt I’m not taking it anymore…

Must need another drink… Regards-

[VictorWang]

I found that... something wrong with my mobo.
maybe the that makes the OS cannot read the right data from the Bios and cause the performance down.
'cos I've noticed that...
during OS installation, my HDD's capacity displayed was only 1/4 of the real capacity.

[thunderstruck!]

And when do you think you may deal with anything? You don’t test, you don’t post any real results that you accomplish (except what you occasionally PhotoChop as currently displayed in the Extreme Bandwidth thread), you continually post crap that you cut & paste from somewhere else with little to no comprehension of what you read and how it relates to the topic at hand, and you are now approaching 6000 post in 7 months of bullshyt and nonsense… Clearly any noob has a better chance of finding a problem than you do… By the way, how often do you change that sig because you’re always waiting on something!

Edit:I apologize to the posters in this thread for going OT. I’m just so fed up with this guys bullshyt I’m not taking it anymore…

Must need another drink… Regards-

Finally, someone had to say it.

[ozzimark]

I found that... something wrong with my mobo.
maybe the that makes the OS cannot read the right data from the Bios and cause the performance down.
'cos I've noticed that...
during OS installation, my HDD's capacity displayed was only 1/4 of the real capacity.

maybe try running something like HD tach? that could be what's up, but i'd honetly be surprised if it made up for ~7-9 seconds in sPI 1m

at any reate, thanks for the heads up

[artissco]

I found that... something wrong with my mobo.
maybe the that makes the OS cannot read the right data from the Bios and cause the performance down.
'cos I've noticed that...
during OS installation, my HDD's capacity displayed was only 1/4 of the real capacity.

hmm 1/4... lol, maybe all system running 1/4 of real power

[mesyn191]

I don't think HD performance is related to SP1m performance, or for that matter 3DMark, etc. The fact that it can't properly recognize your HD space hints at some serious BIOS issues and that could be the cause of these problems.

[cky2k6]

Finally, someone had to say it.

double that

[Charloz24]

double that

me too.....

[Dimitriman]

I found that... something wrong with my mobo.
maybe the that makes the OS cannot read the right data from the Bios and cause the performance down.
'cos I've noticed that...
during OS installation, my HDD's capacity displayed was only 1/4 of the real capacity.

I had that one before and it ended up being a problem with my windows XP cd, are you using an original WinXP?
You should try installing using another windows disk imo.

[Blacklash]

Anand preview:

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=2738

[savantu]

AM2 WILL be a healthy boost in performance.

really ?

[The Coolest]

From the looks of that review on anandtech, it won't be a healthy boost.
Maybe all it needs is some good, low latency DDR2-800. I bet with tighter timings we'll see better performance, but hardly earth shattering.

[dave_graham]

guys...it's an EVT spin. not final silicon.

sorry to disappoint you but i've seen other figures that are much closer to the truth of the shipping product than this.

for reasons stated here i cannot nor will not release the information.

dave

[n91htmare]

There is absolutely no point in dumping your money in the AM2 socket right now. If you are getting a new computer, then yes, go AM2 for future upgrades.
But if you are thinking ot making the switch to AM2, I think it's money down the dump. Just wait till AM2 has better processors to go along with it because all the reviews I have seen, the 939 performs just as well as the AM2...

But if your moto is to blow money down the drain then go for it