DDR2 is nearing the End of it's life Cycle.. So why is it impossible for you to understand that AMD is going to wait 6 more Months to release a DDR3 Proc..
Socket S1 (the upcoming Mobile socket) is going to Be DDR2
But M2 is going to be DDR3
DDR2 is nearing the End of it's life Cycle.. So why is it impossible for you to understand that AMD is going to wait 6 more Months to release a DDR3 Proc..
Socket S1 (the upcoming Mobile socket) is going to Be DDR2
But M2 is going to be DDR3
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About the timings thing a few pages back, the Crucial Ballistix PC2-6400 sticks are rated at 33310. I'd know, i have a set.
lol... That couldnt be further from the truth. Infact DDR2 is just now starting to kick off, we have atleast 2 years to go before DDR2 is "on its way out". Hell half of the MFGRs havent even geared up for mass-ddr2 production yet.Originally Posted by nn_step
I dont get why you are being so insistant about AM2 being DDR3... Ive said to you personally that it is not. You can choose to believe what I am telling you or not, but it will not change the facts. This summer you will see for yourself that it does not use DDR3.So why is it impossible for you to understand that AMD is going to wait 6 more Months to release a DDR3 Proc
And in addition why would they want to use DDR3? Have you even seen the kind of latency it has? You think people are complaining now about 4-4-4..ha Id love to see people's reaction when they find out that Samsung GC16 is like 9-8-8-25 (id have to check). The best DDR3 for timings out of all of them is GC20 which sports 7-7-7-21
S1 is, rather was to be the Sempron socket which I believe they canned for a unified AM2 socket. M1 is the socket you are thinking of (the mobile one) which was also (I believe) canned for the reason aboveSocket S1 (the upcoming Mobile socket) is going to Be DDR2
But M2 is going to be DDR3
Its honestally closer to being like BH5. The new chips we released are far closer to being TCCD than is D9 (has both in front of me)Originally Posted by perkam
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Again with the DDR3 crap? Just stop it!Originally Posted by nn_step
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just forget about it or this thread is going to be closed again... he can believe whatever he wants...
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Thank you Leviathan... All we can do is wait and see
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IIRC, SPDs were made to be lower, so one could have his system bootActually even today, DDR400 2-2-2-5 is still only MANUALLY set
However, many SPDs today are infact DDR400-2-2-2-5.
editedOriginally Posted by nn_step
I don't see what his reason is besides "doesn't make any sense for AMD to use something that Intel is discarding." That's a horrible reason, plus AMD officially states on their website that they plan DDR2 usage for 2006.. I really thought he was high or something when he wouldn't give it up after that![]()
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forget about that.... keep the thread cleanOriginally Posted by Repoman
as i said he has some reason to believe that so time will say which one is wrong or right
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check the attachment for proof of ddr2 usage, tested stock 2.4 ghz
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That image is so Grainy it can be fake..
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http://www.lighterra.com/papers/modernmicroprocessors/
Modern Ram, makes an old overclocker miss BH-5 and the fun it was
Will you give it up
I used to think you knew what you were talking about too..
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I still know what I used to..
The only difference is I disagree with alot of People about M2
I will admit That S1 will be DDR2 but M2 is supposed to be DDR3
Fast computers breed slow, lazy programmers
The price of reliability is the pursuit of the utmost simplicity. It is a price which the very rich find most hard to pay.
http://www.lighterra.com/papers/modernmicroprocessors/
Modern Ram, makes an old overclocker miss BH-5 and the fun it was
That's right, it MUST be a conspiracy for people to FAKE M2 is DDR2, just so everyone would start buying a lot of DDR2 before it debuts to drive DDR2 sales, so they can make billions of dollars.Originally Posted by nn_step
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A wiseman once said, "If Bible proves the existence of God, then comic books prove the existence of Superheros."
Conspiracy????![]()
http://www.vr-zone.com.sg/?i=3119
I'm not part of the gang that seems to be ganging up on you nn but there are several sources here that are pretty hard to just dismiss.Socket M2 processors will support Dual Channel DDR2-667 memories with a low latency of CL3 and HTT is raised from 200MHz to 333MHz.
CHange the word SPDs to JEDEC reference design, it would strengthen what you are sayingOriginally Posted by thephenom
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nn_step, there are so many facts around here, why do you still insist on DDR3.
that AMD roadmap clearly showed what's going on, ddr3 2008, ddr2 2006, and yet you stick to your stubborn idea of M2=ddr3.
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Strange I only Counted 184.. Then I lost countOriginally Posted by 3NZ0
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Fast computers breed slow, lazy programmers
The price of reliability is the pursuit of the utmost simplicity. It is a price which the very rich find most hard to pay.
http://www.lighterra.com/papers/modernmicroprocessors/
Modern Ram, makes an old overclocker miss BH-5 and the fun it was
fx62 already?![]()
My thoughts are FX-60 @ 65nm not 90nm
Fast computers breed slow, lazy programmers
The price of reliability is the pursuit of the utmost simplicity. It is a price which the very rich find most hard to pay.
http://www.lighterra.com/papers/modernmicroprocessors/
Modern Ram, makes an old overclocker miss BH-5 and the fun it was
i just want something new from amd before conroe comes out, i think it would be awesome if conroe came out and still underperformed the latest amd CPU.
Are 65nm Dual Cores with some Refinements not enough for you?
Fast computers breed slow, lazy programmers
The price of reliability is the pursuit of the utmost simplicity. It is a price which the very rich find most hard to pay.
http://www.lighterra.com/papers/modernmicroprocessors/
Modern Ram, makes an old overclocker miss BH-5 and the fun it was
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