ATI cards now has positive LOD app

[hipro5]

Three X1800XT cards in my hands now..........One Club 3D and two Gigabytes......So on I have tested the Club 3D and one of the Giga's........Club 3D default VGPU and Vram > 740MHz core and 864MHz rams........Gigabyte > 714MHz core and 927MHz rams.............

Now some LOD testing with DEFAULT clocks.......

LOD = 0 I get 335 marks in 2k1 nature
LOD = 3 I get 422,2 marks
With some other tweaks, I get 431.5 marks
LOD = 4,5,6,7,8,9,10 gives me NO MORE......

I'll be back........

[SIOUX]

Three X1800XT cards in my hands now..........One Club 3D and two Gigabytes......So on I have tested the Club 3D and one of the Giga's........Club 3D default VGPU and Vram > 740MHz core and 864MHz rams........Gigabyte > 714MHz core and 927MHz rams.............

Now some LOD testing with DEFAULT clocks.......

LOD = 0 I get 335 marks in 2k1 nature
LOD = 3 I get 422,2 marks
With some other tweaks, I get 431.5 marks
LOD = 4,5,6,7,8,9,10 gives me NO MORE......

I'll be back........

you should be seeing around 385 stock no lod hipro

[dinos22]

see if Anisotropic Filtering Optimization and Trilinear Filtering Optimization give you any more points as well

[STEvil]

So how long until we get some of the other missing options too?




D3D on the left, OpenGL on the right.. the settings I run on the IGP320M for this laptop lol


There used to be an even better tool back around the time of the Radeon 64mb DDR VIVO SE.. but I forget the name of it

[hipro5]

Some updates..........

Default VGPU = 1.27Volts when 3D running, goes to 1.36Volts
Default Vdd and Vddq = 2.1Volts
DON'T trust the ati overclocking utility for the Vrams.....It shows(for start) 1.8V which is bull...........
I'll be back.....


EDIT: I'm back.........

I must confess I'm a bit dissapointed about the X1800XT.....DEFAULT score in 2k5 was 9353 and with LOD and tweaks went to 9467(or something like that).......The 7800GTX default was 9999 marks.....I don't now if I did something wrong!..........
ALSO using the ATI overclocking tool my nerves got so tend that I was about to break the card.....TOO BAD proggie........I set at 1.45VGPU, it "takes" it as I meassure the VGPU and when the bench starts, poofffff it goes down to 1.37VGPU - it's default - I couldn't play with big steps, it just got down to defaults....I had to pick and save-pick and save-pick and save every 9MHz as for the rams and a bit lower as for the GPU.......
Anyways the cards are gone now. The guy who brought them to me, had to put them in their place first thing in the morning........He'll bring me some others to test and pick the best of them BUT I think that I'll wait for the X1900 one.............I'll see............

Any tips for the next VGAs will be acceptable.....

[hipro5]

you should be seeing around 385 stock no lod hipro

It might have been 385, but I think I show 335......I'm bit tired though....

[IvanAndreevich]

Don't get too stressed, hipro. X1900XT is coming out anyway

[Viss]

With the ATI lod, do the points keep scaling all the way with every increase in lod up to max value? 10 or 15 or whatever it is?

Ran 0 up to +10 last night on same settings. Highest overall on 1 setting was using +2. Best score i got is all tests at +2 and nature +3. Higher then +3 and all tests go down. Other then nature on +3 i do not get that much extra in either test compared to 0, only 2 or 3 fps in some tests.

EDIT: I'm back.........

Any tips for the next VGAs will be acceptable.....

I used the method Sioux and Eva suggested and it works fine. Stock Nature is around 380 (no lod). Goin from 0 to +3 in Nature gains me about 45/50 fps. Thats around 1000 points (as 10 x fps low + 20 x fps high + 20 x fps Nature = score).

What i used is:

1) Disable Ati hotkey poller and Ati smart in services.
2) Only use Atitool to set volts, do not do this in OC-tool it doenst work ok. Also volts OC-tool shows are of, ATItool is much closer.
3) Set clocks in 2D tab OC-tool by typing them, not with slider. If you change core/mem make sure youll set the other one again manual before save.
4) ATItool beta 11 works fine for me as wel to OC core/mem, the previous version(s) didnt.
5) Cat 5.13.

[M.Beier]

Sadly I ran out of AS5, so I couldnt use my 3700+ which is a nasty clocker (IHS off..)
So I used an old 3200+ winchester, which only did 2600mhz...
Combined with 520/540mhz @ 643.5/666mhz on my new x850XT (no mods :P) - stock timmings on gfx, no tweaked OS, winxp 32bit daily use.. - I got 35xfps in nature @ 01SE with LOD +4

CPU held me back, 40mhz on GFX-mem gained around 5-10 fps, which simply aint enough =)
- Strong timmings = 600mhz max @ mem, and 66mhz more is to perfer..

- everthing watercooled with 20 deg water (didnt turn on the chiller, aint got any issulation yet)

[Viss]

Does +4 gain you anything over +3 in any test? All mine go down over +3. Me best result so far is everything at 0 except for nature.

[GOESA]

Does +4 gain you anything over +3 in any test? All mine go down over +3. Me best result so far is everything at 0 except for nature.

I gained 3-4 fps with +4 over +3, but I might have to test that again Was just a quick test and haven't bothered trying it since, im just glad with my new 01se score in sig

/Grau

[metro.cl]

can anyone help me with the other ati tray tools tweaks?? i enabled only to more and used lod +1 +5 and didnt get more than 100points in 3dmark01.

any tips??

[perry_78]

Havent read the whole thread, but LOD tweaks were available for quite some time with ATI drivers now - just look at the installaiton .inf file in windows/inf.

[charlie]

Havent read the whole thread, but LOD tweaks were available for quite some time with ATI drivers now - just look at the installaiton .inf file in windows/inf.

[ahmad]

Good stuff!

Now all we need is for ATI to make the screen flicker and we can call the playing ground even

[Geforce4ti4200]

I didnt know about LOD for ati cards when I broke records with the scores in my sig. Ah well its only good for inflating nature and a couple fps in dragon. My scores were with NO lod. Ive retired from 3dmark and too lazy to spend days tweaking to get a couple hundred marks more. Im too busy enjoying my games

[M.Beier]

I dont gain any in drago low... - Only gfx clocks & timmings matters - as far as the GFX goes..

[W1zzard]

maybe i should make an atitool cheating edition with easy psnulling and stuff?

[G H Z]

Not a bad idea W1z, but the only reason I would want any effort into something like that is to force Futuremark into fixing their system detection engine used prior to running a bench, That way we can eliminate the tweaking/cheating/whatever you want to call completely.

[W1zzard]

sounds like a plan .. give me some ideas

[metro.cl]

maybe i should make an atitool cheating edition with easy psnulling and stuff?

that would be nice

[Ozan Baseski]

It would definitely be interesting

[5-Clicks]

When I put the LOD at +3 or +5, my score goes down by about 50 points! What's the deal?

[dinos22]

When I put the LOD at +3 or +5, my score goes down by about 50 points! What's the deal?

interesting

have you tried +10

also can you knock up a compare page between LOD=off and LOD=+3/+5......to show differences in scores in detail

[Cpt Twitchy]

I dl'ed it but I cannot find it in ATT. Sorry for my n00bness but I just cannot find it.

EDIT found it. Didn't read whole thread as I am feeling really crappy right now and noticed it atop this page after posting.