NEWS AM2 Info

[[XC] leviathan18]

http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/01/13/am...atform_launch/


fx 62 2.8 dual core, not exactly what ive heard but perhaps they know more than me

[biohead]

huh I thought it was going to be fx65

[ChongL]

yea...what happened to going with the opteron naming scheme....

[Major_A]

How does having a 333Mhz FSB not make the processors that much faster than current 939 CPUs? Like most things I see on the Web I'll form my own opinion once they are reviewed.

[onewingedangel]

An a64 at 2.8ghz with 311fsb x9 is the same speed as one at 200x 14. The FSB is not a limiting factor due to the memory access going over a dedicated channel. It may aid those with integrated graphics, but really for the majority of people the fsb makes no difference, just the overall clock speeds.

[Major_A]

Good point, didn't look at it that way.

[[XC] leviathan18]

i dont think so an A64 with a memory speed of 667mhz is not the same as one with a memory speed of 400mhz

[Cybercat]

I think the hard drive is the main bottleneck anyway, so unless you got a couple Raptor 150s in RAID, it probably won't make much difference in load times, etc.

[[XC] leviathan18]

load times?

it will make difference in 3d mark and spi and other benchmarks and overall use it should be faster

[nn_step]

http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/01/13/am...atform_launch/


fx 62 2.8 dual core, not exactly what ive heard but perhaps they know more than me

I'm Calling Bull.. and I quote

april of 07 is the soonest it might come out from what I'm getting. I have no idea who they're talking to. 65nm 939's are due otu way before the new socket. besides april would be too soon... where is the public preview? the technology launch? they don't just dump a new socket on us without making a HUGE to-do about it for months at a time (recall 754 and the 21 months AFTER the public show and tell before it hit shelves?).

also AMD has voiced concern over DDR2 and how useless it really is. and with Intel's looming move to DDR3 it seems stupid for AMD to push something in as Intel pushes it out.

[Cooper]

i dont think so an A64 with a memory speed of 667mhz is not the same as one with a memory speed of 400mhz

I guess we`ll see some improovement.
But seriously 333MHz is very convinient for DDR2 usage and mem dividers

[wat0n]

mmm

don't trust ddr2 yet, id like to know when will we see cheap low latency rams (dont really mean PC5400UL), or if the performance boost is good enough for changing everything (got agp, so a new mobo for me means also a new vid card)

i wanna wait till we know when will amd support ddr3 before making my pocket cry

[nn_step]

Why does EVERYONE keep saying Socket M2 is Going to Be DDR2.. We went over this Already it is going to be DDR3.. Does anyone here honestly Think AMD is going to start Using a Technology that Intel itself rejected?

[[XC] leviathan18]

Why does EVERYONE keep saying Socket M2 is Going to Be DDR2.. We went over this Already it is going to be DDR3.. Does anyone here honestly Think AMD is going to start Using a Technology that Intel itself rejected?

they said the will use DDR2 667 unless you have internal info about a sudden change ???? please tell us i really doubt is going to use DDR 3 this socket if it is coming this year 2q is going to use DDR 2 not 3

[Cooper]

lol
Why would they use DDR3 - it`s very expensive so far and A64 doesn`t need THAT kinda B/W

[nn_step]

here's the thing that we've discussed over and over and over and over lately. M2 is not due out soon. infact it's not due out till Q2 2007 (check your calendar... it's only 2006 incase you didn't see that). a public preview is scheduled for April of this year. but NOTHING I say again NOTHING will hit the shelves for over a year after that. AMD does not just do a major change like this without first watching the public's reaction to it in a preview... little meet and greet witht he press.

now why do I say that? ahhh that is an answer to your first question. the other forums I belong to are AMD and MS developer forums... and things are discussed in depth with the right people about products and dates. AMD's big reason for the move is NOT DDR2, but is infact Intel's move to DDR3. even IF AMD feels presure enough to release a DDR2 memory controller on thier chips they know the results. bad news to use something Intel is about to cast aside as a standard. DDR2 is no faster than DDR even though it's got higher frequencies. Poor latencies added to the higher COST (note not retail price) of DDR2 are making AMD forget about it as thier standard. DDR3 however is cheaper, faster AND will soon be the industry standard forced by Intel.... thus making it the smart choice for AMD to make.

Any Questions?

[biohead]

Any Questions?

Dang! I absolutely thought AM2 would be out soon I was wanting to upgrade to that, oh bugger! Well I'll just go the s939 r580/rd580 route then, I'm not waiting another year for 'something big :p', a year is a long time especially with a slow system well thanks for the information man, unexpected.

[Major_A]

I'm trying to understand your logic here. Since Intel uses DDR2 AMD won't? If that's the case why did AMD and Intel both use DDR together for so long? Because RDRAM went under and Intel was forced to use DDR?

[[XC] leviathan18]

do you really think and believe amd is going to wait that long watching intel is near to release something good finally?

so this they wont release more cpus just the fx-60 i highly doub it my bets are this year we will have AM2

[nn_step]

Intel isn't going to be using DDR2 for much longer Major..
and AMD is going to release a Few New Cores this year.. The 65nm Process.. Need I say more?

[[XC] leviathan18]

http://www.amdcompare.com/prodoutlook/

better check this, 65nm is going to be used in the AM2 not socket 939 forget about that

virtualization and DDRII in the near future DDR3 is coming 2008

http://www.amdcompare.com/techoutlook/

[nn_step]

http://www.amdcompare.com/prodoutlook/

better check this, 65nm is going to be used in the AM2 not socket 939 forget about that

virtualization and DDRII in the near future DDR3 is coming 2008

Umm dude

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[Cooper]

Who is Red ? What kinda birdy is that ?

[[XC] leviathan18]

http://techreport.com/onearticle.x/9123 there are 2 links 1 is called near term and the other is called long term check both they are the "new interactive roadmaps from amd"

[Piotrsama]

Umm dude

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I see them fine in Opera.

BTW, you and "Red" have been owned by leviathan18