X1800 Xl = Wow!

[vassmar]

Okay, so now I've tested/benched for a day or two and so far I'm pretty pleased with the card (HIS X1800XL). I got the 1.4ns mems. which was good
After a few bench rounds and some gaming I changed the stock cooler(damn that thing is loud ) for the VS-F7. The idle temp dropped ~7*C compared to the stock one, and load temp dropped atleast ~10-15*C. Here are some temp info, just for fun

50*C @ Idle_____Stock cooling @ 80%____Stock speeds
65*C @ Load____Stock cooling @ 80%____Stock speeds

43*C @ Idle_____VF-S7___________Stock speeds
41*C @ Idle_____VF-S7 + 92mm____Stock speeds
36*C @ Idle_____VF-S7 + 92mm____594/589,5 1,150V/1.905V/1.889V (rig in closed window, 0*C outside)
16*C @ Idle_____VF-S7 + 92mm____594/589,5 1,150V/1.905V/1.889V (rig in open window, 0*C outside)
27*C @ Load____VF-S7 + 92mm____594/589,5 1,150V/1.905V/1.889V (rig in open window, 0*C outside)


Well, at the moment my best 05 score is 8626 because when I try to go over 600/600 I get quite alot of artifacts (black dots at the beginning but then it gets worse) + that this is my first DFI rig and my Corsair memory don't work well at all with this mobo I can't get them to run over 210mhz and the cpu just barley do 2.4Ghz, so if I can run the mem and cpu at my old speeds(2778Mhz and 270Mhz) I had with my previous MSI mobo I'm sure the score would be higher.

So what can I do about the artifacts? I don't think it's a heat problem because from to look at the temps the cars is really cold.. unless the cooler is mounted wrong. Gonna take a look tomorrow just to be sure. I don't have high volts either so... 1,150/1,905/1,889. I've seen alot of people with much higher V, like most of you guys..
When you people bench, is the runs complete artifact free or do you just ignore them and countinue?

Other than this the card is great, abit of a differnce compared to my old 9800pro :P:

Later on I'm going to fit a big cpu copper cooler and a 120mm fan on the card, did that on the 9800pro and it worked really good.

And last... do you now any good bios for DFI with Corsair memory? Or any good tips/threads?

[Quigs]

And last... do you now any good bios for DFI with Corsair memory? Or any good tips/threads?

Only thing I can recommend is visiting the dfi-street forums. Someone there is bound to have details on how to get your board going. Could be that you need a different BIOS. Worth a shot posting over there as that is what they focus on.

You should definitly be able to get above 600 core and memory without artifacts at those temps. I don't see them on mine till I get my memory above 755+ - I don't ever see them due to the core (instead the system freezes when the core gets unstable). If you are seeing artifacts, bump your memory voltage up a notch and see if they are still there. You should be able to got to 2.25 easily - although I would not go above that. Being crazy I have benched at 1.4/2.5/2.5 - which was stable for benching - but temps were high.

Others have also posted that changing driver between 5.11/5.12/5.13 fixed artifacts. You can search for those posts if interested.

[Dazog]

5.12 and 5.13 have artifacts in BF2 at any speed.

I would use 5.11 until 6.1 come out.

[vassmar]

Ok, gonna try some of your tips guys. Tho I've tried all the cats and there's no difference in "artifact factor" lol. But thanks, gonna experiment some more now...

[robin]

I got my card to 600/600 with atitool. here's the result link

8,6k with default cooling @ 1.175/1.9/1.9V

going to do some more OC once I get a new cooler.. or get tired of waiting..

[overcast]

600/600 @ 1.175 / 1.9 has worked flawlessly for weeks for me. Anything over that eventually causes issues.

[vassmar]

Okay, I bumped up the voltages to around 1,175/2.1/1.889 and I benched at 620/690 with very little artifacts, I got 9162. Tho this is with the stock cooler + 92mm fan and the pc in a open window. And i got the cpu up to 2.7ghz also compared to the previous 2.4...

I ain't gonna bench anymore now until I've fitted a copper cpu cooler + 92mm fan.

Thanks for the mem volt tip, it really did the trick

[geforce man]

zalman vf700cu, saw temps peak @ around 70c (EEK) well anyways, here is a 05 bench for ya guys, opteron @ 11x257, mem @ 212 3-3-2-7-1t.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1617343

9k was easy, too bad i can't get my mem to clock for .

[LowRun]

This is the very best i could do, little artifacting tho'.

[Quigs]

This is the very best i could do, little artifacting tho'.

That is a great score. I would think you could get your core with good cooling a little higher. I break 10k with 680/750 on my system in benches.

[LowRun]

That is a great score. I would think you could get your core with good cooling a little higher. I break 10k with 680/750 on my system in benches.

My problem is that core doesn't like volts at all, if i take it from 1.075 to 1.095 it starts artifacting, it needs 1.170-1.175 to get rid of the artifacts but then it would freeze before the end of 3DMark most of the time, the 9704 was done at 1.175 on a lucky run

[robin]

how much voltage did you give memory?

[cadaveca]

650/675, cpu @ 3ghz.

9608. on stock cooling. Couldn't get that score with either of my GTX's on stock cooling, on thier own.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1590459

I'm happy. no artifacting in CAT 5.11, but i noticed temps are higher...even to the touch. almost seems that the card is rendering or something with the 5.11 while in 2d...temps only raise 3c from idle to load.

Catalyst 5.12 and all of teh 5.13 variations make artifacts appear, even at stock. These artifacts were less when i install the fatality zalman cooler, but they still occur at regular intervals. these artifacts seem to stem form either the memory controller itself, or one of the ram chips. I really hope a driver fixes the isue, but i am beginning to doubt.

I'm gonna go and pick up another xl and see what happens.

[LowRun]

how much voltage did you give memory?

For a 760MHz run, 2.280v is needed to avoid any ram related artifacts here.

[tansel]

thıs ıs my score wıth stock fan 1.250/2.00/2.00

[persivore]

Is this the X1800XL 3dmark2005 WR? The closest that I can find to that score is Fugger's 10295 run

Also, what drivers can I use which are futuremark approved? I've tried the 5.11, 5.12 and 5.13, and none of them show as being approved

[phoeniXfury]

Hey everyone...first time here! (been waiting a few days for account activation)

Here's what I'm getting with my X1800XL card...Built by ATI

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1545384

This is benchmark stable at 630/693, vCore = 1.175v, vMem = 2.1v, vMemIO = 2.0v, tempIdle = 48C, tempLoad = 53C

Has anyone with a Built by ATI card been able to push the voltage higher? at 1.175 volts, my games will crash randomly with VPU recover kicking in. No artifacts at all! I'm using ATI Tool beta 10. I know that the voltage could be lower than what ATI Tool reports (~12% increase). Is it possible that there is a protection in the BBATI BIOS that says if vCore is +/-10% (for example...voltage fluctuates at just below 10% and a long spike sets it off), halt all processing? setting for higher than 1.175v locks up the screen immediately. I don't seem to get it running at 1.150v...I've hear of one other person with this problem right now. I'm thinking of going with the sapphire BIOS.

Also, what drivers can I use which are futuremark approved? I've tried the 5.11, 5.12 and 5.13, and none of them show as being approved

There aren't any drivers for the X1000 series card that are FM approved yet. They are still in their early stages.

[Quigs]

Is this the X1800XL 3dmark2005 WR? The closest that I can find to that score is Fugger's 10295 run

Also, what drivers can I use which are futuremark approved? I've tried the 5.11, 5.12 and 5.13, and none of them show as being approved

That might be. The best I got was 10256, but that was with 5.13 if I recall. Not sure about approved drivers, I would just use what gives you the best score.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1581094

[l337x3r1cx]

Hey everyone...first time here! (been waiting a few days for account activation)

Here's what I'm getting with my X1800XL card...Built by ATI

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1545384

This is benchmark stable at 630/693, vCore = 1.175v, vMem = 2.1v, vMemIO = 2.0v, tempIdle = 48C, tempLoad = 53C

Has anyone with a Built by ATI card been able to push the voltage higher? at 1.175 volts, my games will crash randomly with VPU recover kicking in. No artifacts at all! I'm using ATI Tool beta 10. I know that the voltage could be lower than what ATI Tool reports (~12% increase). Is it possible that there is a protection in the BBATI BIOS that says if vCore is +/-10% (for example...voltage fluctuates at just below 10% and a long spike sets it off), halt all processing? setting for higher than 1.175v locks up the screen immediately. I don't seem to get it running at 1.150v...I've hear of one other person with this problem right now. I'm thinking of going with the sapphire BIOS.

Also, what drivers can I use which are futuremark approved? I've tried the 5.11, 5.12 and 5.13, and none of them show as being approved

There aren't any drivers for the X1000 series card that are FM approved yet. They are still in their early stages.

I have the exact same problem w/ my BBATI X1800, more then 1.15 and vpu recover when i start a 3d apps, on the 5.13's, i can't even break 600 w/ 1.15

[phoeniXfury]

hmm...one other person on Techpowerup forums has the same issue...can't go over 1.175v. I'm thinking of flashing the BIOS...thinking of using ATIflash 3.09 and Sapphire X1800XL bios from Techpowerup. Anything I should look out for?(this is my first Vid card flash...and an expensive one...so don't wana f**k it up)

I think I will start the same thread here titled "X1800XL - Maker vs. Overclockability"...can everyone input their results and I will record them in excel spread sheet as I am doing for Techpowerup forums...do some observations -->

[l337x3r1cx]

hmm...one other person on Techpowerup forums has the same issue...can't go over 1.175v. I'm thinking of flashing the BIOS...thinking of using ATIflash 3.09 and Sapphire X1800XL bios from Techpowerup. Anything I should look out for?(this is my first Vid card flash...and an expensive one...so don't wana f**k it up)

I think I will start the same thread here titled "X1800XL - Maker vs. Overclockability"...can everyone input their results and I will record them in excel spread sheet as I am doing for Techpowerup forums...do some observations -->

it should work, but downclock your GPU before you flash, let me know how the flash goes, because I'm getting a Zalman fan and i want to get more out of this chip (and i don't have an extra PCI card in case the flash gets screwed.)

[Stoneburner]

sorry for being a noob here but I have a question. The Overclocker tool ends the overclock when it it turned off... Back when i was overclocking my 9700pro i was told that it's better to keep the GPU and mem at a constant speed rather than going higher and lower depending on application and use. THat does not make much sense since laptop gpu's vary gpu clock rate and voltage ( i think) pretty dramatically based on use. So is it acceptable to keep changing around the voltage and clock rates?

[phoeniXfury]

Hmm...no...I don't think it would have any sort of damage to the hardware. As long as it's stable and kept at a low temp...everything should be fine. Even CPUs change voltage and speed dynamically.

I'm going to flash my card now...I'll be back hopefully with good results

[phoeniXfury]

okay...so it didn't work

Can someone with an XL card please send me their BIOS from atiflash...a card that can do 1.2v and higher?

[persivore]

okay...so it didn't work

Can someone with an XL card please send me their BIOS from atiflash...a card that can do 1.2v and higher?

I've attached the BIOS from my sapphire X1800XL. It runs up to 1.35v Vgpu ok, and I run the card at 670/650 for 24/7 use (1.20v Vgpu/2.05v Vdd/1.9v Vddq)