X1800 Xl = Wow!

[cantankerous]

Well now definatly stable with this setting.

585/750 with 1.15/2.00/2.00 V

(01) 27,479
(03) 15,692
(05) 8,342

All benches pasted in 1 boot, and played a 2 hour game of AOE III

Can you possibly do more than one completion of each bench test? Maybe 5 plus? What about playing another game for 2 hours other than AOE III?

Thanks for the info though, im taking notes on all these speed/voltage settings to see if they will duplicate on my card when it finally arrives.

[dnottis]

I wish I could figure out how to run my core over 700Mhz.

..buy an X1800XT!

Got mine coming!

[Astennu]

I have seen the problem in Q4. Not in HL LC or other games. Now its clearly Q4. And its only there When i raise my clocks above standard.

CAn someone post a pic of hist sapphire card that can do more than 1.2v ? I have seen XL cards that have only 5 power bloks sitting next to the red heatsink. @ mine one is missing. XT cards have all the 6 power blocks. Macci was also saiying that he would need a hard mod to go above 1.4. So my hope is on the hardmod now. I hope that could work for me ass well. I'm gonna do a totaly fresh install as soon as the 5.11 drivers are here. They sould be here in a week or so ?

[deathman20]

Can you possibly do more than one completion of each bench test? Maybe 5 plus? What about playing another game for 2 hours other than AOE III?

Thanks for the info though, im taking notes on all these speed/voltage settings to see if they will duplicate on my card when it finally arrives.

I did 3 more tests heres what I got, all was done in 1 boot but going from 01 to 03 to 05 back to 01 and such through the tests

585/750 with 1.15/2.00/2.00 V

(01) 27,532
(03) 15,634
(05) 8,381
(01) 27,479
(03) 15,789
(05) 8,331
(01) 27,329
(03) 15,843
(05) 8,299
(01) 27,432
(03) 15,724
(05) 8,362

All done on 1 boot. FYI this is a fresh install only a week old when I got my new system. I am playing with more options now since I know where it sits at least stable.

Oh ya played a 5 hour game of AOE @ 1920x1200 res with everything cranked today (multiplayer). Ahh so much fun, worked without an issue. Now I'm back at my place and seeing if temps really affected the OC being in a slightly cooler climate.

[deathman20]

I have seen the problem in Q4. Not in HL LC or other games. Now its clearly Q4. And its only there When i raise my clocks above standard.

CAn someone post a pic of hist sapphire card that can do more than 1.2v ? I have seen XL cards that have only 5 power bloks sitting next to the red heatsink. @ mine one is missing. XT cards have all the 6 power blocks. Macci was also saiying that he would need a hard mod to go above 1.4. So my hope is on the hardmod now. I hope that could work for me ass well. I'm gonna do a totaly fresh install as soon as the 5.11 drivers are here. They sould be here in a week or so ?

Yup I see what you where saying with the power blocks, as soon as I saw it I finished my post and took some pictures.

Missing 1 Pulse PA0511.101NL 0513-Z China, Looks missing the 7 capacitors 3 different types of 2 caps and 1 other cap. Looking at both sides of that heatsink.

Oh and just took a closer look at this post http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=106
macci only has 5 power blocks also. But I do see one thing missing on our boards. Some pins over by the DVI connectors.

Heres the 2 pics

[dnottis]

Yup I see what you where saying with the power blocks, as soon as I saw it I finished my post and took some pictures.

Missing 1 Pulse PA0511.101NL 0513-Z China, Looks missing the 7 capacitors 3 different types of 2 caps and 1 other cap. Looking at both sides of that heatsink. Now my next question, where can I buy these?

Off someones dead X1800XL... didnt Fugger crack the core on his!

[deathman20]

Off someones dead X1800XL... didnt Fugger crack the core on his!

Hehe, i changed my commit after seeing Macci's XT card, he doesn't have those on his card either so that leaves a question still, what does ATI have up its sleave with some more power?

[cantankerous]

hmm it looks like the solder on both ends is present so attaching one of these may not be so hard afterall. If it was attached is there wiring/traces leading to and from it going anywhere else on the card?

[perkam]

GHZ, why arent you using the driver heaven tool ??

Perkam

[deathman20]

also the amount a few of you have had to drop clocks to get it stable from where it "would" run, for instance deathman20 from 641/801 bench passing to 585/750 stable, that just seems completely wrong, far to large a gap between bench passing and stable clocks, something else to me is screaming to be found at fault.

Ya I have no clue why that happened. I havn't figured out why yet but I'll try too

[Sentential]

Ya I have no clue why that happened. I havn't figured out why yet but I'll try too

Maybe this has to do with the faulty/missing metal layer that prevented it from scaling higher than 600mhz?

[deathman20]

Maybe this has to do with the faulty/missing metal layer that prevented it from scaling higher than 600mhz?

Whats this? First time hearing this part.

[perkam]

Maybe this has to do with the faulty/missing metal layer that prevented it from scaling higher than 600mhz?

I'm afraid there isnt a lot of truth to that. XL has same core as XT, just different cooler. As time goes on, 700/700 with an artic silencer should be a snap, for about $200 less than an XT which is 625/750.

Perkam

[deathman20]

Ok I got to ask this question. When testing does anyone know what tests seem to crash or do VPU recovery more then the others?

I know that 01 for me seems to be the pickest and I mean REALLY picky. If 03, 05 and rthdribl show no articats/crash during any of the tests mean something?

Anyways just ran a some new tests all done with 1 reboot and done one after anohter in the order shown.

1.25/2.0/2.0
(05) 8,599 & 8,542
(03) 16,002 & 15,988 & 16,012
(01) VPU Recover! Again and again, im really not starting to like anything that 01 gives off as a test anymore.

This time the testing seems to be closer togeather point wise, then my other test I posted earlier. Also I'm trying to keep memory out as being a factor in the tests so I just left it at the 750 speed I had previously. Just now I'm really starting to question the ligitamacy of 01 benches though. Maybe its other hardware interfering with it, maybe it happens to be some things im running in the background or something but its really getting to me, and at this rate, I'll just stop using 01 as a benching and us 03, 05 and rthdribl as my main ones for testing.

[G H Z]

I'm afraid there isnt a lot of truth to that. XL has same core as XT, just different cooler. As time goes on, 700/700 with an artic silencer should be a snap, for about $200 less than an XT which is 625/750.

Perkam

I've only seen one XL @ 700Mhz core. I have tried everything to get mine there, just won't do it even running loaded @ 10-15° under pelt. It does 661 on air and 668 on the pelt. If I hadn't seen one XL running 700Mhz I'd say ATI BIOS locked the XL's because they do have the same core as the XT.

One thing is for sure the BIOS is setting clock limits because we see very different speeds available in Control Center between these cards on the same driver.

[Astennu]

Yeah tis strange that XL's also lack the cap. May be its there for the R580 ? But i have seen pictures of cards that have all 6 of them.

Also my card artifacts in Q4 on standard Clocks + standard cooler. So i'm gonna try returning it.

If u whant to stress test. Use HL LC HDR. Or other HDR games. Q4 was also fine. And ATi Tool render window realy kickt out the crap of mine card. That ons did stress the card like no other game did. Only u can't use artifact scanning that just is not working on R520 cards. And u can try rthdribl_1_2.

XL cards could run 700 if you can upp the voltage to 1.3v. And cool it propperly like the XT stock cooler would do. I hope i can get a new card that is not as buggy as this one was......

[deathman20]

Well before I went to work I wanted to test again to make sure those settings work so I ran 2 tests of 05. First one had a VPU recovery on the nature one, and the second test crashed 05.

This is very strange, very strange indeed, last night it worked but this morning it didn't . All voltage rails are solid, CPU is a rock as well as the ram with over 24 hours Prime and Memtest, tested.

[perkam]

It does 661 on air and 668 on the pelt.

So the cat's out of the bag, lets see those under pelt scores, GHZ

Deathman, YGPM

Perkam

[Bobbo]

This is my atempt on oc the X1800XL.
It is on stock air cooling.

[Nunyabiz]

This is my atempt on oc the X1800XL.
It is on stock air cooling.

Wouldnt 05 run?

[Bobbo]

too much heat from the card so I tid not try to run 05.
Prehaps later tonight when it gets colder outside.

[spajdr]

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640/1500 with sapphire X1800XL, all benchmarks works with no problem, except with test Wings of Fury in 03 hangs, all other tests works heh. 8837 in 3D Mark 05
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AMD Opteron 144 @ 2800, 311x9 1.57V, Thermalright XP-120, DFI NF4 Ultra-D 603-3, NF4 Cooling w/Freezer, 1GB Mushkin PC4400 DCH, Radeon X1800XL + Zalman VF700Cu

I will post my results tomorrow when i got mine piece of sapphire too

[spajdr]

too much heat from the card so I tid not try to run 05.
Prehaps later tonight when it gets colder outside.

Got sapphire piece too?

[Bobbo]

No it´s a Gecube.

[deathman20]

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640/1500 with sapphire X1800XL, all benchmarks works with no problem, except with test Wings of Fury in 03 hangs, all other tests works heh. 8837 in 3D Mark 05
on
AMD Opteron 144 @ 2800, 311x9 1.57V, Thermalright XP-120, DFI NF4 Ultra-D 603-3, NF4 Cooling w/Freezer, 1GB Mushkin PC4400 DCH, Radeon X1800XL + Zalman VF700Cu

I will post my results tomorrow when i got mine piece of sapphire too

Nicely done OC. If he could pump up the ram to maybe 775 that should take him over 9k in 05. I know I hit 8,933 with 641.25/801 on my system.

Got some Q's if you could ask him...

1) What voltages is he running that at?
2) Is that stock cooler on there?
3) Can this speed be reached right after a cold boot? Theres a few of us that seem to have this issue of going right up to speed after a cold boot. I'm just curious if it happens to him also.
4) What drivers are ya using?

Otherwise keep us up to date and best of luck