Guide To Current WaterCooling Components

Once again:

noisy. cores need strong fans. more specifically high static-pressure fans, in push-pull if space permits.

cool,when I bought that rad, I bought the two fans they marketed with it. They are silver and pretty and quite, and likely the wrong choice (they do not move much air). I'll design new mounting for push pull.

creidiki - thank you very much for all of your input! Much appreciated.

Chad

MaxxxRacer: Can you add a fans section to the component guide? Would be useful as it seems to be quite a common question.

maybe tubes section wil be helpful

are those good ?
7/16" ID (5/8" OD) Masterkleer General Purpose Clear PVC Tubing

will be used on 1/2 cpu , gpu block and pump

yes, they are great, and cheap too

ok thanks

here are the final items i am going to purchase probably from PEtra's Tech Shop as a support for this forum's member and also since there is not other place with nice prices and available items ;)

• AquaXtreme MP-05 PRO Limited Edition w/ Derlin MidPlate
• Swiftech MCW60 GPU Waterblock
• Laing D5/Swiftech MCP655 Inline 12vDC Pump
• Swiftech MCR-320 "Quiet Power" Series Radiator - Black
• 7/16" ID (5/8" OD) Masterkleer General Purpose Clear PVC Tubing => 12 feet
• 1/2" OD T-Fitting (for 1/2" and 7/16" ID Tubing) ==> instead of a Res.

Subtotal for Petra's Tech Shop: 257.84

any sug. or better things i can get for the same price range and from same site ? i won't mind if u can suggest anything which may be cheaper and won't decrease the performance

ddc+

with storm and mp-1 the highe head would be useful!

i can't find the DDC+ on petra's site , and i need to buy all of my stuff from one place

so should i change the vga block to MCW60 just to decrease the flow restriction ??

i would do that anyway. wont get any different gpu tems, and dont need that high restriction on the gpu!

ok thanks for ur tip :)

since the MP-1 CPU block has the same design as the MP-5 Pro LE

but it only costs 48$ , does that means that the MP-1 is the best bang for buck and that i shall get ti instead of the Storm for 80$

MP-1 ==> http://www.petrastechshop.com/aqmpuncpuwab.html

MP-5 ==> http://www.petrastechshop.com/aqmpproliedu.html

the rest fo the system i am planning to buy is in post #131

MP-1 has the same basic design yes, BUT:

Lower pin count.
No injector plates.

Keeping in mind that the non-LE versions of the MP-05 were very close to the storm, the LE with #3 plate should be equal at the least.

And the basic MP-05 is a little better than the MP-1 - more pins, and a midplate.

So youve got the whole gamut of block performance there, from mid-perforamance on a budget (MP-1) to peak performance at nearly storm levels (MP-05 SP LE or Pro LE w. #3 plate)

So, just decide how much cash you wanna spend on your CPU block, and buy the MP-05 that fits your budget (with delrin midplate pack or delrin #3 plate), or, indeed, just get the MP-1.

well if i can't find a better price to perfromance ratio block i will get the Storm for sure

but i don't want to buy it and find out that i could have got something cheaper which will differ only 1~2C @ load

ok then mp-1 is ot in my mind anymore

so from ur words the AquaXtreme MP-05 PRO Limited Edition which is 15$ cheaper than the stomr should give the same performance like the storm

if u were me which one will u get if money is not an issue ?


sorry for asking a lot and bothering u

*shrug* for myself, i would get the MP-05 Pro LE and the Delrin Midplate Pack (for the #3 jet plate).

But thats aestetics, SP LE ends up consting the same (it comes with #3 already, just make sure to spend 1$ more on the delrin version), so the difference is all the top plate material, delrin or brass?

The MP-05 is more flexible as a block, imo, with the different midplates... and larger primary cooling area than the storm its not so naked-core-centric. But in the end you might as well choose which name youd like to have more in your sig.

Your choice.

If i dont manage to grab a Storm G7 ill probably end up getting myself an MP-05 to try on my opty :)

then the AquaXtreme MP-05 PRO Limited Edition it is with the Derlin Midplate :)

Thanks for ur help

but what about teh G7 ? where r u getting it from ?

My final list till now

• AquaXtreme MP-05 SP Limited Edition w/ Derlin MidPlate
• Swiftech MCW60 GPU Waterblock
• Laing D5/Swiftech MCP655 Inline 12vDC Pump
• Swiftech MCR-320 "Quiet Power" Series Radiator - Black
• 7/16" ID (5/8" OD) Masterkleer General Purpose Clear PVC Tubing => 12 feet
• 1/2" OD T-Fitting (for 1/2" and 7/16" ID Tubing) ==> instead of a Res.
• Machined Delrin Fillport/T-Line Cap

remember, you need the delrin midplate pack (7$) to get the #3(injector) plate with the Pro, it comes with the #2(X) plact as stock. if you cant get the plate pack @ petra you'll have to go for the SP.

G7? Im in the "interest list". I doubt I'll get in (cathar will be making less than 35) but one can hope :)

No, you dont need those for the pump, theyre for the MCW55.

ops seems that i won't be able to get the #3 from petra

then i will go with the SP

@ SaFrOuT: Your order from petras looks solid, but you should consider a few other alternatives too.

CPU block
Check out D-TEKs blocks, it's the same stuff as AquaXtreme. You can buy D-TEK from vcore.dk, they also sell nozzle kits. And why all this talk about MP-05 and noone mentions alphacools nexXxos XP? XP performs about the same as MP-05, slightly worse than storm. It's cheap too, only $50 from alphacool.

Pump
I'd say this is the worst component in your list, why the D5? Sure it's better than most pumps, but I'd get a DDC-Ultra or 50Z instead. DDC-Ultra is cheapest at alphacool.com, they also sell 7/16" ID tygon (and nexXxos XP!). If you modify the original top (guide) you can save a few bucks and buy the 18w DDC w/o plexi top. (DDC-1PlusT @ alphacool)

GPU block
MCW60 is a very good block, but at petras it doesn't come with MC14 I belive? Do you already own BGA sinks? A couple of GPU blocks that performs about the same is Danger Dens maze4, AQX/D-TEKs MP-1 and Silverprops Fusion. I chose Fusion because I like the way it looks.

Radiator
It's hard to beat petras price on Swiftechs rads! The closest thing here in Europe would be cooltek from ekwaterblocks.com, he also sells the best G1/4 1/2" barbs there is!

• AquaXtreme MP-05 SP Limited Edition w/ Derlin MidPlate
  Consider D-TEK and nexXxos XP too.
• Swiftech MCW60 GPU Waterblock
  What about BGA heatsinks?
• Laing D5/Swiftech MCP655 Inline 12vDC Pump
  A DDC-Ultra or 50Z would probably perform better?
• Swiftech MCR-320 "Quiet Power" Series Radiator - Black
  A good, cheap rad! Cooltek from EKs is the closest thing here in Europe.
• 7/16" ID (5/8" OD) Masterkleer General Purpose Clear PVC Tubing => 12 feet
  I haven't tried masterkleer yet but it's supposed to be good.
• 1/2" OD T-Fitting (for 1/2" and 7/16" ID Tubing) ==> instead of a Res.
  Keep in mind that it's 1/2" OD which restricts the flow. Vcore.dk sells 1/2" ID T-Fittings.
• Machined Delrin Fillport/T-Line Cap[/COLOR]
  Probably the best fillport there is. There's no european counterpart.

Nexxxos: because hes buying from petras.

Pump: because hes buying from petras

GPU: because he's buying from... need I go on? hes having it all shipped to egypt as i understand, its gonna be a small fortune in shipping withoug using 10 different shops.

As for the barbs, MP-05 uses DD Highflow 9/16UNF thread 1/2 barbs which are the same barbs as sold by dtek *breathe*

(edited for capslock *punches keyboard*)

I know he's buying from petras. But sometimes you can get better performance at about the same price if you order from two stores instead of just one. Especially if the second store is located kinda close, like german alphacool. I'm not sure that's the case this time but he should at least consider it.

CPU block/Pump
Petras also sell the 50Z? An 18W DDC + NexXxos XP from alphacool and the rest from petras would probably give better performance at about the same price? He can probably get nexXxos XP locally too.

GPU block
Even if he's buying from petras he needs to cool the GPU mems? I just pointed out that if he don't already own memory heatsinks he should add a pack of MC14. I also mentioned a few other blocks that's equally good. I'm not saying he should choose one of them instead but at least he should consider them.

Barbs
I know that AQX/D-TEK use 9/16-18" NPT barbs. But MCR-320/cooltek, DDC-Ultra use G1/4". (and maybe the fillport too?) EKs shipping is really cheap, at least to Sweden. So maybe a cooltek rad from EKs would be cheaper than a Swiftech from petras? I don't know but he should consider it.

EDIT: Btw crediki what's that hi-tech gun/space ship in your sig?

Aye, to sweden. But i think i talked to him about shipping costs - or another dude from egpyt, and I seem to remembers its terribly expensive. And from what I understand someone else is actually buying the stuff from him, so keeping it simple is a concern.

Well, if he tells us it isnt then lets go crazy, DDC-Ultra and EK barbs and whatnot. Id still take the MP-05 over the Nexxxos tbh, but its a good alternative.

Well, thats why I havent been suggesting the stuff youre mentioning at any rate. As for the barbs, EK ones are very good, theyre nearly 7/16ID. You cant actually get 1/2ID G1/4 because the walls would have to be ~ 0.2mm thick or something.

The ship in my sig is an Armageddon-class Battleship from EVE-Online, screenshotted just after having blown up something BIG (hence the 'splosion)

thanks for the info, really helped :)

Well if he's only gonna buy from one store, petras sure is the one! If he sold 18W DDCs with delrin tops, ThermoChill or Coolingworks rads and more barbs and stuff it would be the ultimate wc shop!

I'd also choose MP-05 over XP since XP has a lots of narrow elbow channels in the top thanks to the stupid mounting mechanism. It looks kinda boring too. It's biggest advantage is that it's cheap and easy to get in europe.

EKs barbs are almost perfect. If they had a slightly bigger ID, a slightly sharper tip and where made of copper they would be perfect. :)

@ andersson.J as creidiki mentioned ( Thank you ) i live in Egypt and those stuff are for me personally and not gonna sell them ( maybe if i got them with a nice shipping + taxes + cutoms cost i may start getting other kits for selling but not this kit )

so the point is that i can only buy my stuff only from one site either from the USA or UK and nothing else and for sure i think USA is the better option

Petra also can ship directly to me while every other site in the USA will force me to ship to a friend and then he ship it to me which will cost more

so about the CPU block and GPU block and Rad i am pretty happy with those selections and if i will change anything it will be the cpu to Storm but i will follow creidiki and get the MP cause i trust him, and yes i already have ram sinks on my vga which came with teh VF-700 ( not the perfect solution but still enough )

about the pump Petra's have AquaXtreme 50Z-DC12 so will this be better than the MCP655 with the MP-5 in the lopp and a MCR-320 rad ?
if yes then i will get it cause i think 9w is for sure better than 24watt but will it be able ot handle the high res. cpu block and large Rad + the vga block

Also i have a friend who live in Netherlands and he can get me the stuff with no shipping or tax or cutoms costs but teh problem is that i haven't found anything good their to convinve me save and buy from NL and not the USA with the extra cost

can anyone living in the NL suggest me w/cing setup from any site there which SHOULD be as good as the one above form the USA or atleast not far behind ?

just foudn this site http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/cat/491 bt i can't find a complete setup that will match the one i have chosen from PEtra

Nah, esp with the recent 50Z batches being noisy, i say take th D5 for your triple rad. The head on the 50Z would cope with that loop fine though.