I am so confused...everyone says different things here...What should I do to get my hands on a very good and SILENT WC?!
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I am so confused...everyone says different things here...What should I do to get my hands on a very good and SILENT WC?!
theres this pump, its sold on dangerdenstore.com, called the mag 2 LE, which performs sorta crappy but is supposed to be reli small and reli quiet. Its like diameter of a mouse. 2 of them should pump as much water as a single strong pump, and silenx fans, plus decent radiator.
according to some owners review on this forum the mag is very noisy
Hmmmm... Some other review said it was very quiet.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaFrOuT
The Mag II LE is respectable for the price, but quiet it is not. It vibrates far too much to be silenced easily.
Subjective listening tests between the MCP350, MCP655, and Mag II LE put both of the Swiftech pumps *much* quieter.
if you say vibrates too much then there are ways to remedy that, proper decoupled mounting, gel pad, neoprene pad....
now if you say the motor and impeller is noisy when running (fully Bled loop), then there's no remedy to it, buy yourself a new pump.
Friend bought a Mag-II LE, loved it at first but then it got really noisy after a month or two.
Buying a cheap pump is like buying a cheap pacemaker IMO
When using the EK fittings on a storm block, am I suppose to use the original o-rings that came with the block aswell as the o-rings that came with the Ek fittings?
Upgrading from a 120mm BIX...... How about a Black Ice GT Stealth 240mm?? It's profile will fit inside my case with the fans. The 240mm BIX-II may not fit inside and if it does it will be really tight. I think I'm limited to these two choices for price and size.
Any other ideas in the $50 range for a radiator?
So far it between the GT Stealth or BIX-II 240mm rads. Would a BIP-II be a consideration as well? I don't care about the noise- just the cooling. I'm only using this for the CPU and I thought a BIX would handle it, but load temps around 50C kinda scare me on water. I'm looking for mid 40's under load.
The GTS radiators are the best bang-for-your buck by far, and they work well no matter the CFM of the fans. However, a BIX or GTX radiator will perform the best with a high (100+) cfm fan.
Not quite sure how you're getting that: the GTS is actually very restrictive, for both coolant flow, and air flow. It'll give you the best performance, with a hefty pump and a powerful fan (most likely noisy).Quote:
Originally Posted by TheJollyFellow
I've always advised that best bang for the buck is a standard car heatercore. Add the most powerful fan whose noise you can tolerate, and call it a day.
For more info:
http://www.cooling-masters.com/articles-38-0.html
(in french, use a translater)
Would the Stealth GTS 240 Black Ice also be considered "High Noise"?
if i can get a swiftech storm is it still the best cpu block ??
Its going on a E6400
Many thanks
nope. for cooling the new quad-cores, the best block out is the D-Tek Fuzion.
does that count for the E6400 (dual core ) as well then ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Ironmon1
well, I'm not sure, exactly. the old apogee and the storm rev. 2 were within 1 or 2 degrees of each other on dual core cpus, with the storm in the lead, but the Fuzion is better than the apogee. I would get the fuzion, because it should give you the about same or better preformance, much better flow (it's not impingement, so its much less restrictive), and its 25$ cheaper ;) . besides, E6400's don't need extreme cooling to be OCed to their limits; most people can do it with a Tuniq tower.
yeah got a tuniq tower on it at he moment. Hit 3.6Ghz but temps were 50c idle. Did it quickly so didnt see how low i could take the volts thou.
Just wanted to put it on water cos of noise really.
I think i will order the Fuzion
Many thanks
This apparently is now the top block, as it has been tested and shown that its better than the storm.
Swiftech Apogee - 45USD - The newest block from Swiftech that takes a step backwards in performance. It is essentially a MCW5000 respun with a new manufacturing process (cheaper), and new delrin top. While Swiftech says its the best thing since sliced bread and Television, please try to avoid it as EVERY other block on this list performs superior to the Apogee
Tested by who?
I haven't seen a test made under appicalble conditions with those results, mainly because there are so few people who actually have the know-how and the equipment and the free time.
There is a thread called "has anyone seen the D-Tek Fuzion?" its buried somewhere in this forum. Someone used scientific equipment stuff and concluded that fuzion beat storm by 0.2C at 100W (which isn't that great) but had like 1/10 the restriction or somethign!Quote:
Originally Posted by creidiki
Fuzion might well beat a storm in some conditions - its an improvement over the 6002 after all - but the Apogee is an improved 5002.
I havn't seen tests but I would take a Fuzion over a Storm for a Ketsfield, a Swifty Storm probably won't cope too well with a split die of that size.
I haven't seen data on the GT, but the standard version will be outperformed by a Storm or MP-05 (or Fuzion, likely as not) as soon as you start OC'ing seriously.
For what its worth, I bought two FuZions and one Apogee GT. The Apogee GT is being used and the FuZions are in my closet. I find Apogee GT just plain better, not to say that the FuZion is a bad block.. as in better than anything else out there.. sorry.. except for the Apogee GT. If you can find me a G5 to buy for less than $300, I'll buy it and let you know how it does. I don't dwell on theoretical exercises because I cannot get my hands on a G5. And I know for sure that a Storm Rev2 G4 is inferior to the Apogee GT on a Kentsfield.
Its my Kentsfield, so maybe the Apogee GT is better on my Kentsfield only. Whatever. The FuZions are going into lesser PCs. Just my contribution.
I will find the post about the Apogee GT... i saw it on here. and it whoooooooops but
Fuzion has higher flow I think, but with the fat o-ring the apogee gt wins, performancewise.
I'm about to buy Danger Den 4101 Water Cooling Kit! It includes TDX Universal CPU Block- could it be mounted un S775 or not?