use blend instead of small fft.. blend puts stress on memory & cpu-nb as well as cpu
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use blend instead of small fft.. blend puts stress on memory & cpu-nb as well as cpu
New bios is out, again :)
http://europe.asrock.com/downloadsit...3(2.20)ROM.zip
crazydiamond: Priming with blend now...about an hour done.
lol
what's with all the new Bios coming out weekly
you always answer the same question with a different reply ? It's still in the OC panel. Cranck up them NB speedssssssssssssss
i had some clips laying around from a thermalright hsf (si128 i think). needed some bending to fit, and works perfectly.
new bios out! will try it asap
880G Extreme3 BIOS 1.60
http://www.asrock.com/mb/download.as...xtreme3&o=BIOS
Well, I tried the 1.60 bios, about the only thing I'm seeing now is that Instant Boot actually works :rofl:
FXT , add some voltage...
I can overclock my phenom II X2 555BE with different speed every core.Is this bug or i have broken proc???
http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/8499/ajur3.jpg
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No that's one of the nice things with OC'ing an AMD. Select the strongest core('s) and up the multi there.... with which program have you OC'ed the CPU ?
I use option on my bios. I can choose speed my proc, The option is : All , Separate (every core). I use bios 2.13a
Hi guys, i sold my good i7 920 and I'm going to buy this Asrock motherboard. Since I'm going to use my 3x2 GB OCZ Reaper 1866 MHz modules, I'm wondering if any of the old Phenoms (555, 720 etc.) are going to be able to run my Ram at those speeds and higher on this mobo. I also need to know if there is going to be any performance drop if i use 3 modules instead of 2 or 4?
I was also wondering if the Crosshair IV is any better than this motherboard. I red the following review @ madshrimps.beand this one too and it seems that there is no reason to give the extra 150$ for the Asus, or is it?
Thanks Leeghoofd, and what about the memory, I know that it's integrated in the CPU, but I haven't seen anybody try higher memory speeds.
think you interepted my charts a bit wrongly... Taken no price into consideration you can't beat an FX based mobo (being it 790 or 890FX) with a GX...GX will always be slower clock for clock
If you take price into consideration this ASrock is really amasing... I still run it as my daily rig... pretty happy with it...
Hi guys, new in XS, my pleasure to be here.
I've got this mobo with a 1055T that does 3.8 stable at 1.3875V with a Mugen/Gentle Typhoon 1850 in push/pull...
I've got a couple questions about the mobo bios:
1. Why oh why does bios raise the cpu voltage on load? Tried bios 1.80 and 2.20. It always raises 0.05V on load, so from 1.3875 it goes to ~1.440V.
Could this be normal behaviour on 890GX boards?
2. Why CnQ is sometimes enabled effectively when on bios I disable it? This mainly happens, I think, on the first reboot after I disable CnQ on bios.
Just for the record and curiousity I got:
Antec Three Hundred + Basiq 550W Modular
Asrock 890GX Extreme3 + Mugen 2 rev.B push/pull with GT + MX-3
1055T CCBBE CB 1013CPDW
G.Skill Kit DIMM 4 GB DDR3-1600 F3-12800CL7D-4GBECO
MSI R5770-PMD1G 1GB
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB SATA2
Replaced case fans with Xilence Red Wings
The CPU does 3794 (271x14) @ 1.3875V (+ 0.05 on load)
4Ghz@1.45 (1.5 on load) but freezes comp while running prime95 for 5 mins... maybe not the cpu and I need to tweak something
Memory does 1800 9-9-9-24-1T
5770 does 945/1380 for sure. GPU limit is 945, memory limit not found yet :D
It does 6.77pts on Cinebench 11.5 x64 at 3800
It idles (CPU temp, not core temps) at 31 and loads at 56 with prime95 and 59 with linx 0.6.4.
Gonna edit my signature :rolleyes:
Another thing guys, you can find bios version 2.13a here that lets you overclock each core separately, not tried it though.
^
It seems that answers to questions 1 and 2 are simply its the board, does the same thing on an 880G.
Has anyone figured out how to increase the NB voltage? (not CPU NB), I cant get high HTT on this board, with my 770T I could hit 295 no problem, with this board craps out at 274.
Regretting the purchase so far!
"Why oh why does bios raise the cpu voltage on load? Tried bios 1.80 and 2.20. It always raises 0.05V on load, so from 1.3875 it goes to ~1.440V.
Could this be normal behaviour on 890GX boards?"
This is pretty normal for AsRock's boards in general, I have had several AsRocks over the years (starting with the Dual Sata II), they all overvolted a smidgen when the CPU was under load....
It is not a bad thing unless you are having thermal problems (.05 is a very small amount) as the CPU under stress draws more power naturally, IMHO, it actually helps with stability under 100% load....certainly better than vdroop...
Getting the 890 and 1090 soon...
Laterzzzz.........
OK, maybe it's not a bad idea, you save power this way, but you should have the choice to disable it in bios if you don't like it or if it doesn't work well for you.
I don't think 0.05 is a so small bump in voltage. You could have a cpu that isn't stable at 1.38V but it's stable at 1.41V, no need to go to 1.43V necessarily. In a board labeled "Extreme" you should have the control.
Bios 2.32 in pctreiber forums.
Another thing, what's the "AMD IO C-state" option in bios for?
http://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=1001&page=12Quote:
ASRock 890FX Deluxe3 received “Great Value Award” from PureOverclock!!
ASRock 890FX Deluxe3 is a cost effective AM3 motherboard. The layout and design is quit good, the performance is excellent and the quality is also well done.
Hey, I'm wondering what the general consensus is with the 880G EXTREME3 boards.
yay or nay?
How do you actually fully disable sideport?
Advanced -> Internal Graphic Mode: UMA
Why would you want to disable sideport? Oo
AND: Where is the VCore measure point? Does anyone know?
OK didn't know that ;)
I need the measureing points! Nobody? Really?
Vcore + Vdimm measure points:
http://www.pctreiber.net/forum/amd_m...e_13299.0.html
Dziękuję
2.40 OUT
1. Added AMD Black Edition Memory Profile support.
2. Added items to adjust multiplier for each core.
http://www.asrock.com/mb/download.as...xtreme3&o=BIOS
2.41A OUT
http://www.pctreiber.net/forum/amd_m...a_13605.0.html
Changelog:
Test BIOS - Will keep the Vcore under stable value (with Thuban CPUs)
What does this mean?
that the vcore will stay put and not goup under load ?
880g extreme3 bios 1.70 released
http://www.asrock.com/mb/download.as...xtreme3&o=BIOS
1. Added AMD Black Edition Memory Profile support.
2. Added items to adjust multiplier for each core.
maybe AOD will finally work now
AOD still not working but atleast you can overclock cores seperately now. so it's going in the right direction.
I agree completely.This bios 1.40 Has NO issues whatsoever.Quote:
ASRock 890FX Deluxe3 received “Great Value Award” from PureOverclock!!
ASRock 890FX Deluxe3 is a cost effective AM3 motherboard. The layout and design is quit good, the performance is excellent and the quality is also well done.
Sorry but 290Ht and 1800Mhz max on 890FX is not good enough... ASrock needs to improve as it's almost the same price range as Asus' pro board. Maybe the reviewer needs some Chew* tips :p
880g 1.70 bios... 300 htt works now but running my 1600's at exactly 1600 (300*5.33) doesn't boot. 301*5.33 htt does boot, though 295-299 doesn't. and so 240*6.67=1600 doesn't boot either. (i think this may have been the case from the first bios but i didn't relate it to memory clocks, i was only thinking htt ref clock then). anyway i'm kinda forced to run 1333C6 it seems.
cool and quiet still seems to kick in with volts below 1.4v (?) so i still have to force steady multies with k10stat in windows. not really a problem but i was getting clock interrupt BSODs out of nowhere even at 3500 mhz.
found this
880G bios 1.71A bios dated june 23rd
Changelog:
Test BIOS - Will keep the Vcore under stable value (with Thuban CPUs)
http://www.pctreiber.net/forum/amd_m...a_13606.0.html
2.41C out.
grrrr. cant seem to get past 260 on the bus speed with this board.
I was thinking of getting the 890GX Extreme3, has anyone tried it with the 2.4 BIOS? I'd like to know max bus speed with that BIOS.
I did 328 here max stable for Wprime1024; X264HD and Cinebench... rams here cap out around 1880n though Rob has done over 1900ish...
this mobo use 2 oz copper??
2.41E @ http://www.pctreiber.net/forum/amd_m...e_13673.0.html
Changelog:
Improve CPu temperature reporting? Suggest to use OC Tuner v.23761 (or later?)
All PCtreiber downloads end up corrupt here, no idea why...
I hope ASrock is getting the ramclocks back onlien again, I seem to have lost 1800mhzC6 a few biosses back...
880G 1.71B @ http://www.pctreiber.net/forum/amd_m...b_13672.0.html
Changelog:
Chassis fan react on CPU temp. And if you want this feature, please connect your 4-pin chassis fan on Cha_Fan1 header
Hi guys, I'm trying to unlock a sempron 140, but when I turn on UCC, nothing happens, no errors, no nothing. On my old mobos with SB750 when a core is defective or absent it won't load Windows. Does this motherboard support unlocking semprons?
Yep it does via UCC... works fine here with my 555BE , unlocks happily to 4cores... sadly my sempron 140 doesn't unlock on any of my boards... always some luck involved
@Leeghoofd What happens when unlocking fails? Some message, blue screen, beep sounds, anything. Which BIOS do you use, what is the batch of your sempron?
I don't have the CPU anymore, but we tried to unlock it on 2 gigabyte boards, one MSI GD70 and finally on the ASrock.. no go... the ASrock just booted here but still with one core... the older gigabyte got into a safe boot loop...
1.4250 set in the OC tuner = 1.3520 idle, load 1.3920.
I use 1.4750 set in the OC tuner = 1.400 idle, load 1.440 its high, but its the only setting that is 24/7 stable for me.
This is on the none beta bios btw, which honestly looks like it didn't change at all :shakes:
Heh I guess thats cool, especially if you're using push pull...
Asrock 890gx trying to run raid 0 with 2xwd5000aaks win7 x64 ultimate get some nonsense of unsigned driver and it wont install on this drive during setup, go ahead runs through install looks to be going fine but after reboot/setup it crashes with bsod just after the win7 splash screen. Bios 2.40
On the oc front my 1055t is now running 3.8 all cores 14x272 ht 2448/nb 2448 lost 200mhz each core going from my asus m4a785d-m pro Ģ60 to this Ģ100 motherboard still not warmed to this thing
2.41G is out! :)
http://www.pctreiber.net/asrock-bios...19&sortby=date
Asrock makes good quality products based on my experience on a sis chipset Socket A model and on a nforce3 250 agp am2 mobo.nice buy you ve got there.
^ yes they do. good quality affordable price.
finally got my ht ref to 285. I have upgraded my ram from team elite ddr3 1333 cl9 to g skill ripjaw cl7 and updated my bios to 2.4. Now im wondering if it is the bios or the ram thats keeping me going past 260 before.
I can't go above 286 MHz, I lower every other clock and rise voltages. Could it really be the memory that stops me, I set it around 1000 9-9... just to be sure but no post. BIOS 2.41E
What is going on guys, everybody was talking how good is this Asrock, how it can reach 400 MHz HTT... NOw when somebody has a problem, nobody van say anithing. I tested my CPU, my RAM and everything else on my frend's computer and it works and OC great. This motherboard is no good for extreme OC, I know it's cheap but don't lie about OC with it.
I must say since the newer biosses I lost a lot of OC potential. I stopped dealing with the ASrock bios department. Is like talking to a brick wall...
small example : I could do 1800mhz C6 easily on 1.51beta bios, flashed a newer beta for test. Told them I lost 1800mhz C6 with 4gb : reply from ASrock : it works fine here at 1800mhz C9. Reply from me : that ain't exactly 1800C6 and it's only 2gb. I said 1800C7 works, C6 won't even boot. Reply : we can't reproduce it in our HQ as we don't have the same rams as you... sigh...
It's a good board, but the bios department needs a whoop a s s
So, you are saying that they did switch do d*ckhead mode ? :down: :gay::slapass::rehab: It is not a good board, just see at what Mecho_gruh says.Any motherboard, and I do mean ANY mb is a junk if used with a junky BIOS :shrug: This one does not even feature LLC, I refuse to buy it.
@imamage I don't know whats nice about 1.632 V, and why is this forum full of spammers 50% of all posts are "Wow, nice, super, good...bla bla"
I'll try the 1090T later on. With the 965 BE I did 325HT easily on air...
I was on 1.51Beta for the review, latest biosses haven't really impressed me... need 2.41C for 1700mhz Gskill Flare action ( at least better than the 890FX UD7 lol )
I had extreme fun on the board with the Hwbot IGP contest, got first place (thks Massman) :
http://users.telenet.be/OAP2/890GX.jpg
Rol-Co dominated all, but superpi 32m, with his 890GX in the Hardware info 555 BE competition... easy 320HT clocks (his scores beating CH IV and CH III , Giga 790FXTA UD5 setups)
http://users.telenet.be/OAP2/890GX2.jpg
get 2.42B here:
http://www.pctreiber.net/forum/amd_m...b_13704.0.html
Changelog:
Add VDoop Adjust feature like LLC feature
(well, there's your LLC)
new options:
Droop Adjust - 1/4, 1/2, disable
OVP - 250mV , 450mV , 650mV , 850mV
PSI_EN - Disable , Enabled
PSI_A - Single Phase , Two Phase
DPM Setting - Disable , 20% , 25 , 30% , 35%
VCore Offset - Disable , 0.05V , 0.10V , 0.15V , 0.20V , 0.25V , 0.30V , 0.35V
just a matter of time before 880G gets the same treatment
I highly doubt that the new bios would make it reach 330+ FSB like the Crosshair IV or the Gigabyte or the MSI boards.
my 880G has done up to 340 with every bios i tested so far
OK, lets see some stability tests prime95, LinX or whatever you want. Everybody can say "My HTT is 300,400,500". I want to see results and proof of it. Also give your BIOS settings.
Here is mine:http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=6502858.jpg
Settings in bios:CPU (4025)1.5V, CPU/NB (2800)1.45V, HT (2100) 1.3V, NB 1.35V (Oc Tuner), turbo, C&Q and C1E off. Throttle control off. Memory 1400 7,7,7,15 1T 1.75V .
Max temp 58 celsius degrees.
What have people found to be the best BIOS for a combination of FSB and RAM frequency? Depending on if my M2F not playing ball nice with my GTX460 gets sorted out, the Extreme3 looks like it'll be at the heart of the new system.
Me again guys :p: I'm tossing up if I should get the Deluxe3 or the Extreme3. The deciding factor will be the BIOS. Can somebody who owns the Deluxe3 post screenshots of all the OC options the latest BIOS has please? :)
guys using thuban with this board. at 2.4 dont we have an option to change the multiplier for turbo core?
The only option I see is to set enable, disable and auto in the bios.
Its also weird that when I use amd overdrive the max multiplier for my amd x6 1090t is only 18x.:confused:
edit.
it seems that you have to download the one that is on the asrock page. now the problem is after restart the settings I set in AOD is ignore even if I check the "apply my last settings when systems boots" :mad:
I just built one of these up with the chip in my sig. The bios was really, really well done in the 242b version I had loaded. I would go as far as to say the best overclocking bios I've seen, Including my 790FXT-UD5.
This is a secondary rig done on the cheap using up some older water cooling I had sitting idle, and I was running a little hot while waiting for more fans to show up, risking the chip, if anything, running 3.8Ghz at 58C according to HW monitor, when right before my eyes, the system shut itself off.
Well, let it cool down and maybe wait for the new fans before trying for more clocks?
System will not power up:down: Clear CMOS, remove battery+Clr CMOS, no result. So I pull the eight pin motherboard power, and the fans and drives come on, the onboard power and reset are lit, but the diagnostic led remains dark.
I was running a 1055T - 13X292@1.47V. Cooling was a spare MCR320 with three lian-li case-pulls as fans :rolleyes:, and a lightly used D-Tek Fuzion and 655 pump and new .5" ID tygon.
Yet another 890 board with under-built power delivery? I have built five systems based off ASRock in the past with no issues.
Is it worth testing it with another chip, or is the eight pin test indicative of a dead board?
I was only pushing 1.47V remember. Looking back, I feel a bit foolish for not spot-cooling that area with a 120mm hung by some stiff wire.
The board uses a 8+2 design, it should be sufficient for X6 CPUs. One thing you might want to check though is pull the MOSFET HS off. I've heard a lot of stories where theres no TIM AT ALL under there its bare metal :eek:
yes your are correct on the mosfet heatsink. Madshrimp IIRC removed the mosfet sink and there was no thermal pad.
Crazy! I sincerely hope Asrock sort that out soon or their gonna get a lot of RMAs where FETs have blown a cap, literally!
So you're telling me I should apply thermal grease between the mosfet's and its heatsink if I don't want them to blow up?
I've touched the heatsink and when the CPU is loaded (6 cores at full) it becomes quite hot, meaning heat is transferring from mosfets surface to heatsink... I suppose Asrock engineers must have already measured and taken this into consideration, I suppose! (On top of Northbridge there's TIM, according to madshrimp review).
Is there any other gain from applying thermal grease to mosfets? Maybe more stable voltage?
How common is in other boards to apply TIM on mosfets? I've read Biostar 890GX doesn't even have a heatsink on mosfets... of course it's the cheapest 890gx...
Should I unscrew my mobo again to apply TIM on mosfets? Advice!
Other thing, concerning bios 2.42B:
For me it's more stable than 2.41C and earlier bioses, while voltage in idle is lower than that set in bios, unlike earlier bioses(this seems good for my setup, could be bad for yours). I adjust the new settings like follow:
*Droop Adjust: 1/4
This is the slope of the dropping voltage when load finishes, I think. Maybe slope in raising voltage too. If I disable droop adjust, cpu freezes on the beginning of load.
*OVP - 250mV (default)
Over Voltage Protection. Not sure what it is. Maybe board won't let Vcore above (Vcore set in bios + OVP) no matter what.
*PSI_EN - Enabled (default)
PSI allows the VR (voltage regulator) to enter power-saving mode to maximize the system efficiency when in lightload conditions
0b: PSI_L flag in SVI ignored.
1b (default): PSI_L flag in SVI monitored and phase dropping enabled according to PSI_A.
*PSI_A - Two Phase
PSI Action, when PSI_EN is enabled
0b (default): IC working in single phase when PSI_L asserted.
1b:IC working in two phase when PSI_L asserted.
*DPM Setting - Disabled
Dynamic Phase Management
*VCore Offset - 0.05V (as default on earlier bioses)
Check out the new babies:
http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.as...0GX%20Extreme4
http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.as...90FX%20Deluxe4
Well, the Extreme4 looks not as good as Extreme3,
but the Deluxe4 looks awsome...
1. Yes, ALWAYS apply TIM to anything with a heatsink
2. Deluxe4 looks identical to Deluxe3, can probably cross-flash the deluxe3 if one wished.
I checked that mosfet sink and there was a thermal pad. :)
http://www.asrock.com/mb/compare.asp...890GX+Extreme3
Yes, they add Realtek instead of VIA (i dont care, i use my Audgy SE @ X-Fi).
- Its only an OC support, you can use 2000+MHz modules at any ASRock 890 board.
- Yes there is 8+2 PP design,
- Like i care, if i need it, i get an USB 3.0 HUB. ;)
2. It realy isnt identical, there are some diferences in design, some capacitors arent in the same place, and the DIMM slots are now paired other way.
Someone could try reflash it, but i would not recomend it.
But i recoment 880G to 890GX reflash.
Looks like it could work.
Who says that?Are the boards 100% identical?Anyone tried this yet with succes?
yeah i've been checking the 880G daily and nothing. all they need to change is the correct checksum for the board and that's it probably :/