i believe aux is pwm. i take it you're using speedfan? if you isntall the abit software i believe it says pwm
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i believe aux is pwm. i take it you're using speedfan? if you isntall the abit software i believe it says pwm
What's PWM? Power Mosfet?
AUX = PWM = output devices on the MB. The blue PWM heat sink is located near the audio header.
Thanks for the responses guys, would you happen know what Temp1 is and System? I'm guessing Temp1 is Northbridge and System is southbridge? or near the ram slots? System is always very low.
SYSTEM = case temp.
i did everything ok till stage IV.....and it freezes while booting and installing USB devices......it doesn't detect USB keyboard or mice......maybe should try PS/2 ?Quote:
Originally Posted by WSX
Blue heatsink? I can't seem to find it. Btw, I'm on IP35 Pro.Quote:
Originally Posted by furballi
This is an Abit IP35-E thread. On that board the PWM heatsink is blue. On your board it is copper. Same location.Quote:
Originally Posted by aoch88
Thanks. It means the power mosfets :)
windows should detect your USB devices, I didn't have that problem, the worst case scenario is that you may HAVE to do a clean install of windows if this method is not working for you, at least you tried, and I hope you did a backup of your important data.Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
yes reinstall is needed and yes backed up all data. :)
sorry It didn't work for you man, but at least you know with a clean install everything is fresh and you should not be having any O/S related problems further down the line ... good luck with your new mobo!
Hi everyone just purchased the IP35-E from newegg for an awesome deal. Ive heard the board can be VERY picky with ram. Maybe it better now with board/bios revision? Anways, I currently have a Gigabyte P965 DS3 MB (Version 1) with an e6400 thats running at 3.6ghz stable with gskill F2-6400PHU1-1GBHZ ram. I'll probably be getting a Q6600 and hoping to get near my 3.6ghz i have with my current setup. I am wanting a 2x2GB memory. What is working well for this MB? I've heard that you don't want any memory that is speced over 1.8V? Is this memory descent:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231122
I'm not worried about ultra tight timing as much as i am that i will stop me before i get to my 3.6ghz goal.
Any help would be appreciated.
thanks,
Ncage
rubbish, plenty of people are running RAM that needs more than that (although you may have to boot using only 1 DIMM to let you increase the RAM voltage to the manufacturer's recommended voltage).Quote:
Originally Posted by ncage1974
Well they didn't specifically say don't go over 1.8V with any modules...they just recommended getting modules rated at 1.8V rather than the modules that are rated 2.1-2.3V.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heidfirst
I pulled it out from under my desk and set the CMOS battery out and the jumper to clear one last time. Waited a while then put them back to normal and close it up for one last try. It booted and the keyboard worked. I don't know if it was the board or something wrong with what i had it in (two PS/2 ports and hard to see with <4in to the wall) or how I had it in (all the way?). Whatever--I'll RMA once I can get a temporary board.
Anyone else? Any strong recommendations for 2x2GB kits ?Quote:
Originally Posted by ncage1974
what bios do i need for a 8400?
latest i guess...
question about DEP Data Execution Prevention
what is good for ABIT IP35-E?
DEP configuration for the system is controlled through switches in the Boot.ini file. DEP can be configured by using the System dialog box in Control Panel.
The Boot.ini file settings are as follows: /noexecute= policy_level Note policy_level is defined as AlwaysOn, AlwaysOff, OptIn, or OptOut.
OptIn: This setting is the default configuration for Windows XP. On systems with processors that can implement hardware-enforced DEP, DEP is enabled by default for limited system binaries and programs that "opt-in." With this option, only Windows system binaries are covered by DEP by default.
OptOut: This setting is the default configuration for Windows 2003 SP1. DEP is enabled by default for all processes. A list of specific programs that should not have DEP applied can be entered using the System dialog box in Control Panel. Network administrators can use the Application Compatibility Toolkit to "opt-out" one or more programs from DEP protection. System compatibility fixes, or shims, for DEP do take effect. Also note that Windows silently disables DEP for certain executables, such as those packaged with ASPack. [2]
AlwaysOn: This setting provides full DEP coverage for the whole system. All processes always run with DEP applied. The exceptions list to exempt specific programs from DEP protection is not available. System compatibility fixes for DEP do not take effect. Programs that have been opted-out by using the Application Compatibility Toolkit run with DEP applied.
AlwaysOff: This setting does not provide any DEP coverage for any part of the system, regardless of hardware DEP support. (except in Windows Vista Ultimate[citation needed]
Bios 15, using a e8400, temp reading seems off, I got 65c at 1.328 and 4050mhz idle.
The old cpu showed with bios 15 acurate with core temp but really off using everest.(using bios 11 both showed same temps)
Now both show same temps at 65c using bios 15.
Priming using Orthos temp went up to 85c at start up and now at 86c.
Not sure if this is a bios thing, block not make proper contact, ihs and cores not properly in contact, a flawed ihs, or sensor malfunction.
;)
My GPU show the same temps as before though.
My only experience of DEP was when I was clocking an AMD64 on DFI Ultra D (I think).Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
I started clocking on Windows 2000 and found my max overclock (roughly 3Ghz I think)
I then installed XP SP2 (with default clocks for the install) and started clocking it back up again, but it wouldn't boot at the same settings as 2k would. From what I recall, it was a good few 100Mhz short - something like 2.6Ghz - 2.8Ghz.
Long story short, I found that disabling DEP in XP got me back the same clocks as 2k. I used the /execute command (instead of the default /noexecute=OptIn) to do this.
It was very weird.
I'm worked with a few E8400 CPUs. Those with non-flat heat spreader will run HOT by at leat 10C. The easiest fix is to lap the heat spreader but that would void the warranty.Quote:
Originally Posted by flopper
Use the VID on the box plus 10%. This should yield 60C max under Orthos and a decent CPU cooler (Big Typhoon or equivalent).
The nominal overclock for these chips is 4.0-4.3GHz.
Yea,Quote:
Originally Posted by furballi
well, I use bios 15, on my e6750 I got around 32c idle and around 42 load.
Used core temp 0.96.1 to see temps.
Installed the 8400, temps all haywire, at stock vcore its 62c!
Set to 4184mhz and vcore 1.352 and running orthos its 85c...
Since I use watercooling the temps are off and either its a bios issue or the IHS isnt making contact properly.
The first time I removed the waterblock and sure enough the contact was not good. Re-seated the block and made sure its a contact, turning the bolts all the way and still no go.
You're not going to be able to get the metal to yield by crushing down on the bolts.
I think the heat spreader is soldered to the chip. Therefore, you must lap both surfaces if they are not smooth and flat.
Also check the temp at stock vs overclocked settings. If there is a huge discrepancy, then the HS is not making good contact. If the change in temp is small, then the temp sensor is wrong.
Yea,Quote:
Originally Posted by furballi
checked using orthos at 4200mhz,
run for 30min, temp went from 68c to 95 and stayed there.
from stock vcore to 1.4 for 4.2ghz the temp difference is around 6c.
so seems the ihs/core seems alright and the temp sensor is off.
Currently im overclocking at 3.2Ghz ( 400FSB & 1.315vcore in bios , all other voltages are left in stock )
My windows idle vcore is 1.280 and loads at 1.232 ( about a week ago it was at 1.240 ) during full load my PWM temps shoot as high as 70c with a decent fan blowing over it.
are the above values pretty normal ?
mobo undervolts 0.05v at least.....mine also.
Which CPU? Check the flatness of the PWM heat sink. You may not have sufficient airflow to the proper region.Quote:
Originally Posted by Demo
just changed to E6550...why suddenly lovest vcore in bios is 1.325v?
nobody?
Tell me please , did you've change GTL?Quote:
Originally Posted by flopper
And can you tell me how you've set VTT, MCH and ICH voltages?
I'm still stugling with my mobo na OC my chip.
lowest selectable vcore in bios depends on the VID of the cpu.Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
use coretemp to see the VID of your cpu.
vid is 1.3375v but look i saw e6750 with 1.35v and some gigabyte mobo and there you can change vcore below 1.2...this irritates me......
yes, but on ip35(-e) its not possible.
for example i am testing a e8400 atm with VID 1,0375 and lowest selectable vcore in bios is 1,2250V. thats really stupid.
i also tested other cpus on that board like e2140, e2180, and celeron 430, and the lowest selectable vcore was always different. e.g. 1,325v for the e2140 if I remember correct.
yeah really stupid mobo indeed :(
maybe bios update in the future can help in that aspect.
but as is, if you select the lowest vcore and enable c1e, at idle how much lower is vcore?
I set my vcore to 1.5v and get about 1.35v at idle. Works out perfectly the way I want it
i just want to use low vcore like 1.25v and below like i saw in gigabyte's mobos...etc.....
How so? This motherboard was released long before intel released the latest round of CPU's. I'm fairly certain if there isn't a bios update already there will be one in the near future. This motherboard is one of the best bang for buck motherboards out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
The lowest Vcore available in BIOS = VID on the CPU box. Use C1E and EIST to further reduce Vcore and core speed. You must stick with the default CPU multiplier when running C1E and EIST.
I'll be testing this board out at the end of the week, as both it and an E6750 will be arriving soon on my doorstep.
Will post some OC results...
Someone tried Bios ver 1.5 yet?
or 1.4 with E2160 stepping L1 ?
I have the abit ip35-e and i have a question about updating the bios...
i know there are 2 ways to do it:
1) just installing it through the DISC-ON-KEY when rebooting
2) from a flopy drive
my question is, is there any other ways to do it? for example installing/burnning the bios through your OS?
thanks for helping!
one more thing...
i cant get over 411*9 with my E6600 is this the maxed fsb i can get with this MOBO/CPU?
or i just have to raise the MCH or the CPU voltage?
my currect overclocking settings are:
411*9
1:1
1.5775 - cpu
2.10 - ram
1.3500 - vtt voltage
1.650 north bridge
and memories are standing on their stock timing 4-5-4-15, 2T (i got a kit of ocz platinum with XTC spreaders 800mhz 1gb *2)
and thanks again for helping P:
best boot to dos and flash using awdflash. You can do this with a USB pen drive anyway.
where can i download this bios update? can u link it to me please?
I don't know boxerown, that north bridge voltage looks a little too high to me. My Q6600 OCed to 3.6 (400x9) didn't need anything changed but the vcore (CPU) from 1.21v to 1.35v. Maybe that's the max your cpu can handle?Quote:
Originally Posted by boxerown
maybe but ive increased the nb cause i thought thats might be the problem i also placed a 120mm fan on it so the temps suppose to be pretty good for this voltage. i also thought that the RAM kit i have may effect in a negative way i mean that also might be a problem.
for checking this case i gotta have substitutional parts - and i dont have so its pretty hard to decide.
other opinions?
Nope. I have the same problem with this board and an E8400. The MCH needs high voltage once you go north of 400 FSB. Really sad. I think I'll switch to a DFI board because of that and vdrop.Quote:
Originally Posted by renozi
Good to know. Mine doesn't like to go beyond 420 FSB on my E6750, .1 voltage increase on MCH. Been thinking about using one of my spare 40mm fans on the NB cooler to help things a bit, but this is a silent build (Scythe Ninja, 120mm Yate Loons @ 5v, etc.), so ...Quote:
Originally Posted by techguy2k5
...yeah, if anyone has a Thermalright HR-05 for sale, holla back. :up:
even if you drop the multiplier, it won't go higher? the OP of this thread hit 500fsb using 7x on a e6300.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaYp146
Nope. Just tried to Orthos blend @ 457x7 (3.2 Ghz) and froze within a minute.Quote:
Originally Posted by aiya
I'm content sitting @ 3.36 Ghz (420x8), but it's an E6750. Was expecting more out of it...
And my temps are fine, barely break 51C in Orthos blend. VRM temp in Speedfan stays below 50C.
I'm not OP but I can attest to easy 500fsb with my e6400. stock motherboard volts
someone try new bios yet?
16 ?
im asking for - bios 15
the 16 is beta ?
I'm using 15, but can't tell you if it's any different from 14 or others because I flashed to 15 as soon as I installed my board. But to me doesn't seem like there's any stability issue or anything. Q6600 at 3.6GHz just fine and dandy. :)
For those saying nb needs high voltages above 400 i fold at 450-470 and i only moved my nb up one notch runs 100% stable.
What Vcore are you on? My set up stable at 450 Mhz 1.5 Vcore, i didnot try more, i think i have a golden chip!:yepp:
you have not double post - right ?Quote:
Originally Posted by renozi
do you have some e2160 for test ?
It only double boots when I put in new overclock settings. And, no sorry I don't have any e2160 to test.
any of you guys with e8400s hit 500fsb? with default and/or lowered multiplier?
I hope to tomorrow when my G.Skill PC8000 4GB kit comes in. Shooting for 525+ FSB 1:1, as this RAM should be good for at least that (some have had it in the 550-570 range though).Quote:
Originally Posted by aiya
sweet, i look forward to your results :)Quote:
Originally Posted by techguy2k5
Hi All,
just flashed my bios last night to 16 from 15(w/c i didnt used for oc'ing) and noticed something really really strange happened. here's how it goes.
my e2140 has a wall @ 445 on bios 12 and flashed it to bios 15 but didnt have time to oc bec of work. then just last night, i saw bios 16 is already released and so i thought ill give it a try. Lo and behold, 450, 460, 470 fsb on bios! :clap: :clap: :clap:
This got me pretty excited and did some short benching, orthos and superpi.
BUT, all the time that i was benching, i didnt noticed that my fsb went back to its stock speed but my vcore and vdimm are still 1.5 and 2.2 respectively in windows. :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug:
So, i just put back my settings on default again.
Question:
1)Did you guys experience this on 16?
2)Does this really happen? I mean it does to me but is it normal what just happened last night?
Looking forward for some clarification.
Thanks
you disabled C1e and EIST ?
Bios V16 version.
Quote:
1. Update CPU Micro code.
2. BIOS compiled date: 02/29/2008.
final version?
I did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrewv
Looking at your screen shot i think i have a golden chip or something, my E2140 is stable at 3.6 with 1.5Vcore in BIOS. I dont like to run tests like Orothos/Prime as we gotta Disable EIST. I just play crysis for 2-3 hours if it is stable nothing can move it, however this is my personel opinion, people at anandtech also stress their hardware playing crysis. I also read somewhere people stressing with ATI Tool etc all stable, crysis crashes in 15 mins lol :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by dragonhunter
I have that too. Let's run some benchmarks to see if it is some kind of reporting error from CPU or NB to CPU-ZQuote:
Originally Posted by NormanABates
CPU-Z & SetFSB shows my CPU at 266 Mhz, when bios showed 504 Mhz.
:( SuperPI 8M run confirms it. FSB is 266 Mhz.
Now, thats 1 confirmation. But i wonder why that happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spacehead
That bios is buggy :banana::banana::banana::banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by NormanABates
I tried to flash to ver 12 with that bios and it corrupted my BIOS chip.
Also my own stupidity was to flash from Vista with unstable settings :clap:
Spacehead,
Did you make a mistake by flashing back your bios to orig version(12) or it just happened?
Im just wondering if will i have trouble flashing back my bios to 12.
I have this board now and I'm intrigued as to why 1:1 seems the most popular memory divider. Is it because people have low multi CPUs so they need a high FSB, then by necessity need to run 1:1?
The reason for my intrigue is that this board has no NB Strap or option to change the tRD - it changes with the memory divider. I'm getting much higher performance in SuperPi and all 3DMarks with a higher divider (or should I say multiplier? ;)) and this is due, I believe, to the lower tRD rather than the higher memory frequency thus:
340 Mhz FSB
1:1.25 = 425Mhz, Mem 4,4,4,12, tRD 6
1:1.5 = 510 Mhz, Mem 5-5-5-15, tRD 5
The second option is faster in all benchmarks. Theoretical memory latency is about the same (~9.4ns @ 1:1.25, ~9.8ns @ 1:1.5). Static Read Delay (tRD) is down to 14.7ns in 1:1.5, from 17.6ns in 1:1.25.
I wish this board had tRD control.
Interestingly, opening the BIOS in ModBin6 shows a hidden option "NB Strap", presumably allowing separation of the NB Strap setting from the memory divider. However, unhiding this option and writing a new BIOS resulted in a bad flash. From what I can tell, this is due to the fact ModBin6 does not support these 8Mbit BIOSs, or at least the versions we have available to us as Joe Public don't, despite the fact I can open, modify and save the BIOS correctly.
There's a special trick to it with these newer bioses. I believe rebelshaven has a writeup on it. I've never looked too far into it myself, but since I'm getting my rma replacement of this board on Tues, I figure it might be interesting. For my old dfi board, there's always been rebels haven releases to "unlock" additional straps, not that it did anything on the p965. Still is proof of concept I suppose
I'm on the site now reading up.
Since I b0rked a flash the first time round, I have a spare BIOS chip so I'm good to go when modding BIOS without fear. :rolleyes:
mistake, My bad, I think :)Quote:
Originally Posted by NormanABates
Hey, do the bios!
But I think you can't change strap faster than it is.
I would still love to run my memories 1:1 and use lower strap to get best performance.
If I recall right, Memset 3.4 crashes when performance level is set lower.
Yup. That's my reason for wanting to do it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spacehead
OK I managed to unhide and enable the NBStrap option in the BIOS, but sadly it doesn't allow independent MCH straps.
e.g. I set 1:1 memory and the 800 strap, but it boots as if I had selected a 1:1.66 memory divider. MemSet confirms the memory as 333Mhz and the "Performance Level" (actually tRD) as 3.
Still, I learned a little about how to unhide and enable BIOS options.
So you got it to flash right? So if memory runs 333 Mhz and your FSB is 333 MhzQuote:
Originally Posted by Jimbo Mahoney
then it is 1:1 and lowest strap enabled !!
Try something like 450Mhz 1:1 and see what the performance level is when you set strap to 1066 ??
Rebelshavensforum is down...
Something like 8x486 1:1 with 1333 strap (1.25) would be nice
Yes it flashed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spacehead
Yes I had the option there.
BUT the FSB was 200 and the mem was 1:1. So it doesn't work. The Strap is 'hardwired' to the memory divider.
So this board needs super memory that can take 1200 Mhz or even 1400 MhzQuote:
Originally Posted by Jimbo Mahoney
to get its full performance
sad and bad engineering :(
I'm not sure there are many P35 boards that allow tRD to be changed in the BIOS. I know some of the DFI boards do, but they are more expensive. (At least more than the IP35-E that I have).Quote:
Originally Posted by Spacehead
Using the cheapest memory I can get in the UK (just about) - some OCZ 6400 - I am able to run the 1:1.5 divider to get a tRD of 5 @ 340 Mhz FSB, which is already pretty good. Of course if you have a CPU with a low multiplier, you're a bit more screwed...
I've found BIOS 16 beta 1 to be the most stable, and best for overclocking. It took my E8400 over 4.5GHz, and also doesn't have the annoying double-boot that is found in the BIOS 16 final version.
Would someone care to share their 24/7 bios settings? I have this board and an 8400 on the way. I might fiddle a little and see what the 8400 is capable of but my primary concern is to get this new build set up as fast as possible with maximum stability. It's been a while a while since my last build so I have little idea what most of the settings available on these intel chipsets do. Thanks.
Hi
As I ask in this thread (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/....php?t=182197), is this MB capable of +500 fsb normally? (not hand-picked o very few ones). Im going to purchase a mobo and use with a good e6300 so I want good FSB. The memory Id use is normal one too (ddr800-ddr1000). Is this board better than a Gigabyte DS3R?
Regards!
i didnt know this. thanks anyway for letting people know.might try this later.Quote:
Originally Posted by ghost_recon88
The lowest you can run memory on this board is 1:1Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeroX
So you need mem that can do atleast 1000 , preferably 1200 Mhz, but then your TRD will suffer a bit if you can't put mems to 1.2 or 1.25
I guess that this board would do 500 Mhz, not much over it, and your CPU must not have that FSB wall, I still don't understand what that means.
But I have been having troubles getting my CPU to run @ 6x500 Mhz or 7x500 Mhz, 501 Mhz seems impossible, any advice on this?
PS. Does ICH voltage help with higher FSB ?!
Thats what people here at xs call a wall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spacehead
Sorry to change the subject, but I was going to get this board to go with an e2160, 8800gs and 2gb Corsair memory. From looking at this thread, it seems like that would be a good setup. Any suggestions? Any issues with this board I should know about?
All in all it seems like a killer budget board.
Also, does this board support RAID? Some newegg review says it doesn't, but I don't see how this could be true.
No RAID on the IP35-E, but there is ICH9R RAID on the IP35.
I've read of a few people achieving 500FSB on this board with E8400 CPUs ... not sure where people are reading it's not up to the task.
But yes, some are certainly better than others. Mine's having trouble breaking 420 FSB on my E6750 ...
So the IP35-E does not have ICH9R RAID? What SB does it use?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobsama
great thread guys! after reading, I ordered one and love it so far. only testing a xeon 3065 right now. just bumped the vcore a little and vdimm 2.3 no prime yet or anything
IP35-E has ICH9Quote:
Originally Posted by iadstudio
IP35 & IP35 Pro have ICH9R
New bios v.17
Download.Quote:
1. Fixed C1E and EIST function.
2. Fixed the 7600GT Graphics card compatibility problem.
3. BIOS compiled date: 03/27/2008.
thanks for the info :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by major_john
can anybody confirm is that measuring point correct and the resistor value really controls VPLL?Quote:
Originally Posted by suffocatio
And how can you have 2.4 VPLL ? doesn't that burn the chip??
Default voltage from that reading point is 1.53V and after penciling the highest I got was 1.84V, didn't help much, 1.7V now.
Still can't get to 500 FSB with my Q6600. Got 452 MHz FSB before mod, after mod 460 MHz FSB, so I don't know if that even has any effect as the stability is so low.
^ Please, any gurus out there?