I agree with you.pity because it was appeared to be rock solid,was gaming for 3 hours without any problems 4.2@ vcore 1.28, maybe i will put a few more volts through it.take care bud
regs
paul
anyone else notice that the ga-ep45-ud3r f7 bios just went back too f7a beta?
Seem to have figured out the hi temps on this thing. After reapplying thermal paste half a dozen times or so and trying different brands/types I turned the 120 facing up towards the top and temps went down considerably, also they evened back out within 1c to 2c of each other. I quess it wasnt making even contact. To test it I tried 4.5ghz at 1.45v and reached 72c max before failing Prime one core. A step in the right direction anyway.
System passes memtest, but still crashes during OS install
[QUOTE=calpolyarc;3722882]Thanks mreld3r... very helpful. I entered the values you suggested... first thing, when I entered 1.34 for VTT and MCH Core the CPU and MCH References automatically changed to .848.... Is that ok or was I supposed to try and keep them at .76?
I was able to get into windows just fine up to 450x9 and run my typical software without any noticeable problems. I ran into problems though with memtest and prime blends (they failed immediately)... prime small fft's ran fine on a short 10 minute test but my temps during that were: 70/66/58/58 and the cpu read 71. This is too high correct?
Due to the memtest and prime blends errors I assume the RAM settings need to be tweaked?
you may wanna ask Jor or someone else for help getting a lotta ram stable, I only use 2 gigs here. And its not hard to get 2 gigs stable. I just wanted to help you get started. There a lotta very smart people in this thread that can help you a lot better than me. As far as the temps are concerned; Im not much help there either. I dont worry about temps. As long as it doesn't shut down on me, im happy. Especially during small fft's and IBT. I gotta old-timey cooler.
Oh yea, the refs are supposed to change with the Vtt. You may need to adjust the mch/ref to help pass prime-blend and memtest and maybe some more mch core?
Thanks mreld3r for your help getting me started and your honesty.
would Jor or anybody else mind helping me get my 8 Gb's of RAM stable? My current settings and most recent questions/concerns are up above in post #2788.
Here are my specs:
Q9650 in EP45-UD3P w/ Xigmatek HDT-S1823 HSF
4 x 2 Gb Gskill DDR2 800 / 5-5-5-15 / 1.8-1.9v
Quadro FX 1500 GPU
Corsair TX750W PSU
Thanks!
Do more people have problems with the latest bios F7 for the EP45 UD3R?
Cause everytime when i flash to that version and load optimized defaults and after that customize settings in bios everything is fine, but whenever i turn off my pc and turn it on again (cold boot) it goes into a reboot loop 2 or 3 times and then it says checksum error and puts the original bios back (thank g(od)igabyte for dual bios).
Any ideas?
I have UD3R with bios F7, and works well for me.
No reboot problems, so far.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=2754
Hmm which revision? I got 1.0
Same here.
As Cyfer stated, no problems for me either....I just installed another 4GB of RAM last night in a Revision 1.0 UD3R MB with the F7 bios and an 8500 chip. I've tried most of bios versions out there and none have caused me any big issues (but some have worked better than others of course), but F7 seems to be pretty stable for my setup. I'm currently running at 4.16Ghz (8 x 520).
LDN
Does anyone else have a rebooting issue?
If I clock my system up really high, let's say 4.275 Ghz... If I reboot, it goes into some endless rebooting cycle, and resets the cmos (completely, not just the oc settings).
E8500
8GB G.SKILL DDR2-800 Pi Black (1.8-1.9)
EP45-UD3P F9b BIOS
The ram doesn't seem to be an issue. In windows I pass testing. The problem is the system simply won't reboot or shutdown properly, never mind S3 working properly. Is it a lack of voltage somewhere?Code:MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
CPU Clock Ratio ...........................: 9.5
CPU Frequency............................: 4.275 GHz
Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) .............: 475
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:100
C.I.A.2 ..................................:[Disabled]
Advanced Clock Control
CPU Clock Drive...........................: 700 mV [Default]
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 700 mV [Default]
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0ps
MCH Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0ps
DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ...............: 2.00D
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 800*....... 950
DRAM Timing Selectable .................: [Manual]
Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................4*...... 5
tRCD .........................................4*...... 5
tRP'...........................................4*...... 5
tRAS........................................12*...... 15
Motherboard Voltage Control
Load-Line Calibration.....................: Enabled
CPU Vcore….……….......1.25000V*...: 1.41250
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: Normal
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: Normal
CPU Reference.……….....0.76V*.......: Normal
MCH/ICH MCH Core….1.100V*...........:1.460
MCH Reference….…….0.76V*.............: Normal
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V*...........: Normal
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V..............: Normal
ICH Core…………...……1.100V..............: Normal
DRAM DRAM Voltage …1.800V*............: 2.0V
DRAM Termination ..…0.900V*.............: Normal
Channel A Reference 0.900V*.............: Normal
Channel B Reference 0.900V*.............: Normal
Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Disabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Enabled]
Right now I'm at my power saving settings, default clocks + power saving bios options, and it reboots and S3's properly.
maybe that's working with 2 x 1gb sticks but not with my 2x 2gb ocz hpc reaper 1066 and e8400e0, using 445 cpu fsb and 1068 mhz on ram, my pc posts on the 333 latch 2.4b untill 1.26v mch which is not enough to be stable . When i go above 1.26v the computer just loops.
The memory controler on this board when using 2 x 2gb is just 2 buggy on the 333 latch using bios f8
Anyone got 580FSB prime stable on the UD3P ? (not talking about pi runs or cpu-z screenies) I'm currently on F4 bios but having a hard time to stabilise it in Memtest test 7. After a few passes it starts to give some errors...
Might be the limit of this board. Maybe a newer bios warrants higher clocks...
This is my rock solid setup; primed, has encoded, and done a bunch of other stuff for about a week now almost always at 100% load. Not a single crash yet. I won't say fine tuning is done yet, as I frankly haven't found the time to adjust all settings to the lowest levels possible without compromising on stability; my obsession. :rolleyes: Maybe this helps those struggling with 8GBs, I don't think this board has a single problem handling that.
I'll do some quick synthetic benches, hopefully later today.
Here goes:
System:
Gigabyte EP45-UD3P
Q9650 Vid. 1.250v @ 8.5 x 518
4x 2GB G.Skills F2-72004GBPCL4-D @ DDR2 1036 5-5-5-12, PL9 2.00D (400 strap)
Vista x64 SP2
Quote:
MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Turbo
CPU Clock Ratio ...........................: 8.5
CPU Frequency............................: 4.403 GHz
Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) .............: 518
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:100
C.I.A.2 ..................................:[Disabled]
Advanced Clock Control
CPU Clock Drive...........................: 1000 mV [Default]
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 1000 mV [Default]
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0ps
MCH Clock Skew (ps)....................: 50ps
DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: [TURBO]
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [400]
System Memory Multiplier ...............: 2.00D
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 800*....... 1036
DRAM Timing Selectable .................: [Manual]
Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................4*...... 5
tRCD .........................................4*...... 5
tRP'...........................................4*. ..... 5
tRAS........................................12*... ... 12
TRD is set to 9.
Motherboard Voltage Control
Load-Line Calibration.....................: Enabled
CPU Vcore….……….......1.25000V*...: 1.4250 (Load 1.392v)
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.500v
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1.500v
CPU Reference.……….....0.76V*.......: 0.760v
MCH/ICH MCH Core….1.100V*...........:1.560v
MCH Reference….…….0.76V*.............: 0.760v
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V*...........: 0.850v
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V..............: 1.650v
ICH Core…………...……1.100V..............: 1.200v
DRAM DRAM Voltage …1.800V*............: 2.21V
DRAM Termination ..…0.900V*.............: 0.850
Channel A Reference 0.900V*.............: 0.850
Channel B Reference 0.900V*.............: 0.850
Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Disabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Disabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]
Can anyone confirm if ether F9a or F9b on the UD3P fixes the S3 bug?
I had to RMA my board because I couldn´t run bus 333, 400 or 450 and ram 2x1, 2x2 or 4x2 in dual channel at 1066 or 1080 no matter what, singel channel just fine or any 1:1 in dual channel.
They couldn´t fix it so I got a new board, rev 1.0.
Just about to set it up for some short test. :D
ghostleader,hope this one works perfect for you.good luck
Not sure about the S3 bug, but after loading the 9b bios (from v.8)i was able to get 1:1 with patriot pc2-6400 (4-4-4-12) ram and q6600 at 400 FSB and mostly stock voltages--something i was unable to attain before despite a lot of effort and tweaks with timings and voltages.
Not sure what changed, but clearly 9b is shaping up to be a very good bios for those with a q6600 and ddr2-800 ram. One side note, following the bios update windows 2003 server is now reporting 3.5 GB of ram whereas pre-update it posted the full 4 GB. I'm pretty sure i didn't make any OS reconfigurations that would have caused the drop.
hmm seeing this , i've tested my board on deafult settings, and with cpu running @ fsb 333 and memory @1066 no problems, I only hope that a new bios will solve this board problem with 2 x 2gb ram and the 333 strap, and will allow better performance level on the 400 one (ofcourse for 2 x 2gb ) .
Thank you, I have done some test at those bus speed and ram speed that I had problem with and it seams okey with this board. :)
I did a short LinX run with my E8400@450 4,50 2x1 ram@1080 555 15 tRD 9 Turbo, XP SP2 32bit and it worked just fine. :up:
I did run a Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro (PWM control) in that test and I most say that I was impressed by its performance, have to see if it can hold of my E8400 with 4Gb or 8Gb, I doubt it, it had 75C :eek: with 2Gb, think I have to put my watercooling back on.
http://www.arctic-cooling.com/catalo...WM_pic_300.gif
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...08055515tR.jpg
Now I move on to 2x2, 4x2 and Windows 7 64bit. ;)
If you looked at my sig, I have 2x2gb Gskill PI PC28800's. Hoss, also had 2x2gb OCZ 1066 RAM and had the same exact issue. Using less then 1.34MCH fixed our problem, bios F7/F8 and F9B, revision 1.1 board. We also both have Q9650's, so if your dual core chip causes it to not be able to boot over 1.26MCh then I am not sure what you can do, sorry:shakes:
I have countless sets of ram for this mobo.most i can get is 1100mhz@ 5 5 5 15 - i am looking for the ultimate 2 gig set that will further embellish this great motherboard, a set that will hit 1200+ and also achieve tight timings at high speeds.
any suggestions would be great,still looking,i should be able to get another set if i sell my adata 8500 & crucial tracers 8500 - think i will keep my g.skill but would love a great 2 gig set.thanks in advance for any help provided
regs
paul
the best 2x2GB set that hits 1200 and beyond is the g.skill 9600's but they will cost you.newegg has them at 269$
Yup, on cold boot it happens to me sometimes when running at 538 x 8 on my e8400 & ud3r with F7 (and F6a). It's annoying. Only away around it is to boot at a lower FSB (500) and OC within the OS. Tried various ref voltages, cpu term, vvt, etc without any luck. Changed memory (2x2GB Mushkin Redline) as well. S3 doesn't work either since F4 (i think). Bah, it's no big deal - once I OC in windows, it's still rock stable at 4.3 GHz.
I didn't have any issues with F7. Or F4. F8 was horrible. Constant freezing. The F9a and F9b are great. The F9a has a new RAID BIOS (not sure why it was downgraded in the F9b). If I had to recommend one it would be the F9a. It has been the most stable and overclocks the best and the RAID BIOS boots much faster.
I am still :brick::brick: trying to get this q9650 stable at higher overclocks. Are most of you guys with this CPU using LLC? I am able to get it stable with LLC enabled but have been trying to not use it.
i always use LLC enabled,but thats just me
i don't think is the cpu, cause its a great one, i think it's the motherboard which is rev. 1.0 and that's why i guess i can go only as high as 1.26v on the 333 latch. Youre ram is better than mine and maybe they are more stable with less mch volts.
Anyway some problems still are with this motherboard , why making available mch volts up to 1.6+ when u can use a max of 1.34 or 1.26 in my case. There must be some issues causing this loops after passing a certain mch lvl .
The strap is broken. About 5 to 10 pages back there was some discussion about this. Jor thinks that Gigabyte will never fix it because it would just cause a different strap to be broken. In the beginning I had the same issue and you do but it was 434FSB instead of 435. You can boot at 434 and then use ET6 to adjust the FSB if you wish, it works that way.
so heres where i am at now. i think its so close i can smell it...
i've ran memtest overnight with these settings (471% complete or something) without errors, but im running into problems with prime small fft's. is it safe to assume that not having enough vcore would cause it to crash fairly quickly? because i started with 1.3875, ran prime small fft for two hours before a crash. bumped up to 1.4, ran again but crashed at the same spot @ two hours. bumped one more notch to 1.40625, and again, crash at two hours. since i was running small fft's it cant be the mch/ram thats failing, correct? i mean, it passed memtest overnight.Code:******Gigabyte EP45 UD3P******
Q9650 489 X 9 4401MHz
Robust Graphics Booster.........................[ Auto ]
CPU Clock Ratio.................................[ 9 ]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio............................[ 0 ]
CPU Frequency 4.35GHz...........................[ 489 x 9 ]
******Clock Chip Control******
CPU Host Clock Control..........................[ Enabled ]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz)........................[ 489 ]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz).....................[ 100 ]
C.I.A 2 [Disabled]
******Advanced Clock Control******
CPU Clock Drive.................................[ 1000mv ]
PCI Express Clock Drive.........................[ 1000mv ]
CPU Clock Skew..................................[ 0ps ]
MCH Clock Skew..................................[ 50ps ]
******DRAM Performance Control******
Performance Enhance [Standard]
Extreme Memory Profile (XMP)....................[ Disabled ]
(G) MCH Frequency Latch.........................[ 333MHz ]
System Memory Multipler.........................[ 2.00 ]
Memory Frequency 1066...........................[ 978 ]
DRAM Timing Selectable..........................[ Manual ]
CAS Latency Time................................[ 5 ]
tRCD............................................[ 5 ]
tRP.............................................[ 5 ]
tRAS............................................[ 15 ]
******Motherboard Voltage Control******
Load-Line Calibration [Enabled]
CPU Vcore [ 1.200 ]...................[ 1.40625 ]
CPU Termination [ 1.20 ]...................[ 1.34 ]
CPU PLL [ 1.50 ]...................[ 1.570 ]
CPU Reference [ 0.766 ]...................[ 0.888 ]
MCH Core [1.1 ]...................[ 1.400 ]
MCH Reference [0.760 ]...................[ 0.928 ]
MCH/DRAM Refernce [0.900 ]...................[ Auto ]
ICH I/O [1.500 ]...................[ Auto]
ICH Core [1.100 ]...................[ Auto]
DRAM Voltage [1.800 ]...................[ 2.10 ]
DRAM Termination [0.900 ]...................[ Auto]
Channel A Ref [0.900 ]...................[ Auto]
Channel B Ref [0.900 ]...................[ Auto]
******Advanced BIOS Features******
CPU Multithreading..............................[ Disabled ]
Limit CPUID Max to 3............................[ Disabled ]
No-Execute memory Protect.......................[ Disabled ]
CPU Enhance Halt (CIE)..........................[ Disabled ]
C2/C2E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
C4/C4E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
CPU Thermal Monitor.............................[ Disabled ]
CPU EIST Function...............................[ Disabled ]
Virtualization Technology.......................[ Disabled ]
what do you think? im going to bump the Vtt and cpu ref each one notch and test again.
previously, i was 10 hours prime blend stable with 480*9 w/ 1.3875vcore bios @ those same settings.
You are pushing to much MCH, your VTT might be a notch or so too high. My guess is that your failing prime because of the VCORE. Also, I have heard that the 2.0D(400mhz) latch is much better then the 2.0B(333). I am running the 476FSB at 1.30VTT/1.30MCH, Hoss runs 482 with 1.28VTT/1.30MCH. Try getting rid of those auto voltages too, I put what I think you should try in bold.
Edit: I just want to add, that I had the exact same issue with Prime crashing after two hours exactly. With the blend it was crashing at the 16k-20K section everytime. I reluctantly had to raise my vcore. I can actually run 9x473FSB at 3 notches lower vcore then I am at right now, with my chip going over 9x473FSB starts the vcore on a huge upwards tumble. 9x480-485FSB might be your sweetspot.
What are the biggest differences between rev1.0 and rev1.1 on EP45-UD3P? How about OC potential?
wich is the best (stable) strap for 500 over fsb?
They should both OC the same. The rev1.0 does seem to be less quirky, that may be CPU related and not the board. The NB on the 1.1 hardly gets warm to the touch which makes me wonder if it is making good contact. This 1.0 NB gets very warm without a fan on it. The 1.1 NB HS is turned upside down.
hi lads
just wanted to ask if anyone has managed to go 500 fsb+ with an e8600 as i am struggling to get past 440, thank god i have 10x multiplier but i have seen go beyong 500+
would be interested to know what your settings in the bios are,appreciate any help with this.
regs
paul
Hi, recently I've just purchased the EP45-UD3R along with a Q9950. I was looking through the bios and the memory settings are really confusing to me. Can someone explain the memory dividers to me please.
(G) MCH Frequency Latch.........................[ ???MHz ] <-- not sure this setting
System Memory Multipler.........................[ ??? ] <-- not sure this setting
Hey, this doesn't have to do with overclocking:
If I want to raid, what would be better to use on this mobo? The Gigabite sata connectors (purple) or the south bridge sata connectors (orange)?
Does anybody know the difference between these two types of sata ports?
Have you disabled all this :
******Advanced BIOS Features******
CPU Multithreading..............................[ Disabled ]
Limit CPUID Max to 3............................[ Disabled ]
No-Execute memory Protect.......................[ Disabled ]
CPU Enhance Halt (CIE)..........................[ Disabled ]
C2/C2E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
C4/C4E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
CPU Thermal Monitor.............................[ Disabled ]
CPU EIST Function...............................[ Disabled ]
Virtualization Technology.......................[ Disabled ]
3.0 volt ? nice tip :p
You can set MCH Latch to Auto and choose from all the available Memory multipliers for all straps, or Set to one strap close to or above your FSB and use only those Multipliers.
You can of course use lower then FSB Strap, and it will be better but much harder to keep stable
Each Strap has a pre-defined set of Memory Multipliers for it. Here are what those are for each >>
http://i43.tinypic.com/xoedef.png
[QUOTE=Leeghoofd;3729193]Have you disabled all this :
******Advanced BIOS Features******
CPU Multithreading..............................[ Disabled ]
Limit CPUID Max to 3............................[ Disabled ]
No-Execute memory Protect.......................[ Disabled ]
CPU Enhance Halt (CIE)..........................[ Disabled ]
C2/C2E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
C4/C4E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
CPU Thermal Monitor.............................[ Disabled ]
CPU EIST Function...............................[ Disabled ]
Virtualization Technology.......................[ Disabled ]
hi
yes all of these are disabled,apart from no-execute memory protect,quite strange as i have lowered he multiplier to 8x and tried 500fsb and it will not boot,even relaxed the ram timings abd run that slower to see if it make a difference,hots a wall literally,must be something silly
dont quite follow what that guy above recommended - 200fsb and volt 3,0 makes no sense to me.
regs
paul
I own the EP45T-UT3P (DDR3 version) and i have a problem with stability at 500 FSB.
What i did was to first set al values manually on BIOS (left side) the adjust MCH ref(0.7v), CPU ref(0.76v) and voltages(CPU=1.2v-LLC Enabled,MCH=1.3).CPU is @3G (6x500)
The problem is that is stable with 2 gigs of ram but not stable with 4 ( i own a corsair kit 2x2 GB DDR3 1600 9-9-9-24 1.8v).
I will come back with a template later after i get home maybe u can get a better look and give me a tip...
Where should i look??
Thanx
I couldn't pass up picking 2 4870 512MBs at a good price. :)
Should I sell my UD3P and get a DFI DK X48-T2RSB plus or a LT X48-T2R? :confused: The prices are close.
How much performance will I be losing when I crossfire at 1680*1050 max AA and max FF? :shrug:
Thank you :up:
I need to give more than 0.08 over the required voltage, my board's DDR3 Vdimm fluctates like hell... strange while the DR2 version is rock stable...
Eg with 1.65 Corsair 1600C8 I7 dimms I need to set 1.72 to get 1.65 in reality, with the OCZ 1.9 Dimms I need to set 2.04 to be stable at 1600mhz C7.
For 4gb I need 1.32-1.34Mch NB voltage at 500FSB-1600Mhz...I'm totally blocked at 580FSB Hyperpi Stable, I can boot higher (600FSB) but the rig is far from stable... same counts for my DDR2 board...
I keep MCH reference just a tad below 0.75, 0.7 is too low here
Static tRead Value [10] do you set that setting manually or is it still on AUTO ?
Static tRead Value [10] do you set that setting manually or is it still on AUTO ?[/QUOTE]
i will have a look at that..talk soon
regs
paul
I gave up with my P5Q-e and jumped onboard with a UD3P. Now I'm once again lost in the world of a new bios. I've never had a gigabyte before so this is a double whammy. Basically, I was prime stable on my P5Q-e at 470*9. I'm aiming higher than that now with my Q9650.
I've got Bios F7. Good choice or bad?
I've installed easytune but I'm not exactly sure how it works. When I load it up it shoes different values than those I've set in the BIOS. Why is that? Should it do that? EDIT- I've found a link explaining why easytune shows different values than the bios! Very helpful!
Now, what value(s) does one adjust when a particular core fails. On my P5Q-e I could adjust the reference for core 0/2 and for 1/3 seperately. What's the equivalent settings on the UD3P? My starting point has been Jor3Bler's template for 489*9. I am only running 2gb though, so perhaps I could reduce some of the MCH values?
Sorry for being such a noob but I really feel like one right now!
opinions on f8 bios? im currently on f5 and was wondering should i upgrade to f8. thanks!
I think that most of my instability problems are caused by the fact that the NB is overheating. I can't keep my finger on it more than 2 sec even at 1.32v. I changed thermal paste but i think without active cooling it won't get anymore stable than this. Next week ill try to a vent aroudn there to see if it changes something.
Im on the new f8 and to be honest; I cant really tell a whole lotta difference.
The s3 is still broke and my results (overclocking) really are about the same.
But it is really easy to change the bios on these boards with a usb stick.
Only problem is that you have to re-do all your settings. Which I can now do with my eyes closed after trying many new bioses. There is no change log with a new bios so why it is "new" is a mystery. I really haven't found a bad one yet, except the f7 ( i think it was) that gave error messages with ET6. Other than that "I" really haven't noticed much difference since f4.
^thanks for the input +1
Now onto another question. Are you guys able to run your memory at 1T command rate?
I have mushkin redlines 2*2gb pc8000 and I've changed the command rate to 1T in bios but cpuz still shows as 2T.
No matter if it works or not in the BIOS - you never would be able to boot at 1T with 2x2GB DDR2 memory at this speed.
I'm currently trying for P95 Blend stable. I'm on BIOS F4 with a 1.0 revision board. I can get it stable for about 50 mins before 1 core will fail in the large FTT test. I can pass Small FTT though :confused: I'm pretty sure I just need to tweak the NB somehow. Here are my current settings, any idea on what I need to tweak? I can run 4GHz totally stable with 1.2500v vcore set in the BIOS (CPU-Z 1.248v under load).
4.1GHz stable
Code:Robust Graphics Booster.........................[ Auto ]
CPU Clock Ratio.................................[ 8 ]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio............................[ + 0.5 ]
CPU Frequency 4.1GHz............................[ 483 x 8.5 ]
******Clock Chip Control******
CPU Host Clock Control..........................[ Enabled ]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz)........................[ 483 ]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz).....................[ 100 ]
C.I.A 2 [Disabled]
******Advanced Clock Control******
CPU Clock Drive..........................[1000mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive................[700mV]
CPU Clock Skew..........................[150ps]
MCH Clock Skew..........................[150ps]
******DRAM Performance Control******
Performance Enhance.............................[ Standard ]
MCH Frequency Latch.........................[ 333 ]
System Memory Multipler.........................[ 2.00B ]
Memory Frequency 1066............................[ 966 ]
DRAM Timing Selectable..........................[ Manual ]
CAS Latency Time................................[ 5 ]
tRCD............................................[ 5 ]
tRP.............................................[ 5 ]
tRAS............................................[ 12 ]
******Motherboard Voltage Control******
Load-Line Calibration...........................[ Enabled ]
CPU Vcore [ 1.25 ]...................[ 1.28725 ]
CPU Termination [ 1.20 ]...................[ 1.34 ]
CPU PLL [ 1.50 ]...................[ 1.57 ]
CPU Reference [ 0.760 ]...................[ .848v ]
MCH Core [ 1.100 ]...................[ 1.340 ]
MCH Reference [ 0.760 ]...................[ .848v ]
MCH/DRAM Reference [ 0.900 ]...................[ 1.050v ]
ICH I/O [ 1.500 ]...................[ 1.500v ]
ICH Core [ 1.100 ]...................[ 1.00v ]
DRAM Voltage [ 1.800v]...................[2.100v]
DRAM Termination [0.900v]...................[1.050v]
Channel A Reference [0.900v]................[1.050v]
Channel B Reference [0.900v]................[1.050v]
I have the Mushkin Redline pc2 8000's also, had a hard time getting things stable with them so switched it out for gskills and went with the 5:6 devider. Haven't seen a clock skew in other guys templates set like yours. Your vcore looks great. I was able to do 4.0ghz on my 9550 at 700/700/0/0, any higher and needed 800/900/0/0. Never messed with the DRAM a/b reference or DRAM termination so not sure about those.
Hi Guys, I'm trying to get 3.6GHz stable and my 4th core failed Prime after 7:52hrs. I wasn't home to check then but when I stopped at 15:17hrs later, the other 3 cores were all fine. I'm going to lap my cpu in hopes of achieving lower temps. If you have any suggestions in the mean time that would help me get stable, it would greatly help. Thanks!
Temps:
load
0, 72
1, 69
2, 72
3, 69
idle
0, 49
1, 45
2, 49
3, 45
Code:MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Fast
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.60GHz
Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 400Mhz
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100
C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]
Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<<
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<<
DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.50A
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1000MHz
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]
Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................ 5
tRCD ......................................... 5
tRP'........................................... 5
tRAS.......................................... 15
Advanced Timing Control
tRRD........................................... 4
tWTR.......................................... 4
tWR............................................ 6
tRFC........................................... 52
tRTP........................................... 3
Command Rate (CMD) ....................: 1
Driving Strength Profiles
Driving Strength ............................ 800MHz
Channel A
Static tRead Value.........................: 7
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Channel B
Static tRead Value.........................: 7
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Motherboard Voltage Control
Voltage Type.………... Manual
CPU
CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.238V
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.20V
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1.50V
CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: 0.76V
CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......: Does not have this option
MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.24V
MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; 0.76V
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: 0.91V
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: 1.50V
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: 1.10V
DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.0V
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: 0.91V
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: 0.91V
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: 0.91V
Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Disabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]
Integrated Peripherals
Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled]
LLC Enabled
Set MCH Reference to ~0,840 when CPU Term is 1,20, then bring CPU Term back to what you want it.
It should not be that hard to get it stable at 3,6 with bus 400.
You can check out my post 2120, it was the MCH ref who was the make or break.
this weekend i try to improve my max fsb...and thanks to my new crucial ballistix tracer i've managed to do this:
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/531818.png
with setfsb i've also seen 660, but not validated yet. maybe a little adjustment at vtt or gtl ;)
Well with the settings bellow:
I can run stable orthos or prime until the FFT`s 768 or 896 around 1h of test. When within that zone the computer restart, but the curious is if i run just this FFT`s on custom test i pass without problem.Code:******Gigabyte EP45 UD3P******
E8500 500 X 8.5 4250MHz BIOS F7
Robust Graphics Booster.........................[ Auto ]
CPU Clock Ratio.................................[ 8 ]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio............................[ 0.5 ]
CPU Frequency 4.0GHz...........................[ 500 x 8.5 ]
******Clock Chip Control******
CPU Host Clock Control..........................[ Enabled ]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz)........................[ 500 ]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz).....................[ 102 ]
C.I.A 2 ..................................................[Disabled]
******Advanced Clock Control******
CPU Clock Drive.................................[ 700mv ]
PCI Express Clock Drive.........................[ 900mv ]
CPU Clock Skew..................................[ 0ps ]
MCH Clock Skew..................................[ 0ps ]
******DRAM Performance Control******
Performance Enhance .............................[Standard]
Extreme Memory Profile (XMP)....................[ Disabled ]
(G) MCH Frequency Latch.........................[ 400MHz ]
System Memory Multipler.........................[ 2.00D ]
Memory Frequency 1066...........................[ 1000 ]
DRAM Timing Selectable..........................[ Manual ]
CAS Latency Time................................[ 5 ]
tRCD............................................[ 5 ]
tRP.............................................[ 5 ]
tRAS............................................[ 15 ]
******Advanced Timing Control******
tRRD............................................[ 4 ] Auto
tWTR............................................[ 4 ] Auto
tWR.............................................[ 8 ] Auto
tRFC............................................[ 68 ] Auto
tRTP............................................[ 4 ] Auto
Command Rate (cmd)..............................[ 2T ]
******Channel A Timing Settings******
Static tRead Value [ 11 ] ................[ 9 ]
tRD Phase0 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase1 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD 2rd (Differnt Rank) [ 6 ] ................[ Auto ]
tWR 2wr (Differnt Rank) [ 6 ] ................[ Auto ]
tWR 2rd (Differnt Rank) [ 5 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD 2wr (Same/Difft Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ Auto ]
Dimm 1 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto ]
Dimm 2 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto ]
DDR Write Training..............................[ Auto ]
******Channel A Driving Settings******
Drive Strength Profile..........................[ Auto ]
Data Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto ]
cmd Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto ]
ctrl Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto ]
clk Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto ]
Data Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ]
cmd Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ]
ctrl Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ]
clk Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ]
******Channel B Timing Settings******
Static tRead Value [ 11 ] ................[ 9 ]
tRD Phase0 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase1 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD 2rd (Differnt Rank) [ 6 ] ................[ Auto ]
tWR 2wr (Differnt Rank) [ 6 ] ................[ Auto ]
tWR 2rd (Differnt Rank) [ 5 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD 2wr (Same/Difft Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ Auto ]
Dimm 1 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto ]
Dimm 2 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto ]
DDR Write Training..............................[ Auto ]
******Channel B Driving Settings******
Drive Strength Profile..........................[ Auto ]
Data Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto ]
cmd Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto ]
ctrl Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto ]
clk Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto ]
Data Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ]
cmd Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ]
ctrl Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ]
clk Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ]
******Motherboard Voltage Control******
Load-Line Calibration [Enabled]
CPU Vcore [ 1.25 ]...................[ 1.42500 ]
CPU Termination [ 1.20 ]...................[ 1.34 ]
CPU PLL [ 1.50 ]...................[ 1.61 ]
CPU Reference [ 0.760 ]...................[ 0.878 ] ET6 Show 0.815
MCH Core [1.1 ]...................[ 1.30 ] Tested 1.28-1.38
MCH Reference [0.760 ]...................[ 0.808 ] ET6 Show 0.72 Tested 0.74
MCH/DRAM Refernce [0.900 ]...................[ Normal ]
ICH I/O [1.500 ]...................[ 1.570 ]
ICH Core [1.100 ]...................[ 1.200 ]
DRAM Voltage [1.800 ]...................[ 2.140 ] Tested 2.1-2.18
DRAM Termination [0.900 ]...................[ Normal ]
Channel A Ref [0.900 ]...................[ Normal ]
Channel B Ref [0.900 ]...................[ Normal ]
******Advanced BIOS Features******
Limit CPUID Max to 3............................[ Disabled ]
No-Execute memory Protect.......................[ Disabled ]
CPU Enhance Halt (CIE)..........................[ Disabled ]
C2/C2E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
C4/C4E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
CPU Thermal Monitor.............................[ Disabled ]
CPU EIST Function...............................[ Disabled ]
Virtualization Technology.......................[ Disabled ]
Any suggestion to get stability beyond that?
Got my voltage down a bit and and modified my clocks to max out my new ram ( G.Skill PI 1100mhz). Actual core voltage under load is 1.338v DMM
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/326...0323190726.pngCode:******Gigabyte EP45 UD3P******
Robust Graphics Booster.........................[ Auto ]
CPU Clock Ratio.................................[ 8 ]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio............................[ + 0 ]
CPU Frequency 4.35GHz............................[ 484 x 9 ]
******Clock Chip Control******
CPU Host Clock Control..........................[ Enabled ]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz)........................[ 484 ]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz).....................[ 100 ]
C.I.A 2 [Disabled]
******Advanced Clock Control******
CPU Clock Drive..........................[700mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive................[700mV]
CPU Clock Skew..........................[0ps]
MCH Clock Skew..........................[0ps]
******DRAM Performance Control******
Performance Enhance.............................[ Standard ]
MCH Frequency Latch.........................[ 333 ]
System Memory Multipler.........................[ 2.40B ]
Memory Frequency 1066............................[ 1162 ]
DRAM Timing Selectable..........................[ Manual ]
CAS Latency Time................................[ 5 ]
tRCD............................................[ 5 ]
tRP.............................................[ 5 ]
tRAS............................................[ 15 ]
******Motherboard Voltage Control******
Load-Line Calibration...........................[ Enabled ]
CPU Vcore [ 1.25 ]...................[ 1.38125v ]
CPU Termination [ 1.20 ]...................[ 1.28v ]
CPU PLL [ 1.50 ]...................[ 1.45v ]
CPU Reference [ 0.760 ]...................[ .835v ]
MCH Core [ 1.100 ]...................[ 1.320v ]
MCH Reference [ 0.760 ]...................[ .850v ]
MCH/DRAM Reference [ 0.900 ]...................[ auto ]
ICH I/O [ 1.500 ]...................[ auto ]
ICH Core [ 1.100 ]...................[ auto ]
DRAM Voltage [ 1.800v]...................[2.000v]
DRAM Termination [0.900v]...................[1.000v]
Channel A Reference [0.900v]................[1.000v]
Channel B Reference [0.900v]................[1.000v]
Nice Mysterfix!! Looks like you were able to keep your temps down also.
That's only at idle, temps hit mid to low 50's during IBT and Prime but they skyrocket to 70şc+ during LinX testing. :shocked:
Edit: Yes I'm using bios F9b
A little hint: In order to test the stability of your system you will need to run the FULL MEM or MAX STRESS options, as you can see you are only using half of your ram for testing so that isn't a real test.
http://i39.tinypic.com/qrlmjb.png
...
Another note is to hit print screen before the test ends to take full loaded for real volts and temps (example: Linx 25 passes take SS on the 24th pass).
Hope that helps :up:
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Thanks for thre the tip but I used what was available. I'm not a vista expert so if you can tell me what to do to get more available ram I would greatly appreciate it. BTW I measure voltage under load using a digital multimeter to get a more accurate reading, software rarely gives correct readings.
Ahh, was looking at your real temp in the picture, read 67 max, for these 1.21 vid chips that seems to be the norm. Mid 50's in prime is good.
I still get high temps so I just don't run real temp anymore when priming. Maybe what I don't know wont hurt.... my cpu . :eek:
@Ghostleader - Do you use any active cooling on your NB?
Just ran LinX. Closed out everything but real temp and this was the max mem when selecting all. Opened cpuz and ET6 after the test was finished. Dont know how to make it use anymore. This is using 2x1gb of memory, vista 32bit.
OC Nub: With 2GB and Vista that's about the maximum you're going to be able to test with LinX. Vista needs a few hundred MBs for itself to run.
OK bro, I shut down all my open programs and I was able to squeeze a few hundred more mb's out for testing, even took a SS of full load on the last test and just after for you Jor3lBR.:D
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/241...0323233254.png
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/755...0323233356.png
My voltage drops a bit under load and it fluctuates when I'm doing things. Idle voltage is 1.345v, + or - .005v but under load is constant 1.338v. CPU-z and other software will only report what it gets from the board, problem is there's no way to calibrate the boards sensors to report proper readings. I trust my multimeter much more and yes, I have fresh batteries in it.:D
Is W7 better for ram? Maybe I'll try testing with that instead of Vista.
Is it just me or do the Q9650's run a little warmer than say a Q6600?
I have replaced the TIM and taking of the blue "Gigabyte" plate and have a 40mm fan on it.
If you want to use all memory you should push the "ALL" button next to "Memory to use" and LinX gonna use all available free memory except 5Mb.
If you already have done this and you only get 2920Mb free memory your system is using a lot of memory, you should be able to get ~3500Mb available.
If you´re in the mood you can disable and stop "Superprefetch" and/or go to diagnostic mode and see if you get some more memory free, if not, don´t bother, it´s stable enough.
Btw, any improvement with F9b compare to the others.
Nice overall OC. :up:,
I'm thinking of getting one (an upgrade from my current Foxconn MARS). What are the common issues of this board or things which I need to worry about? I have watercooling running so heat shouldn't be a problem :)
Ghostleader, I did use the all option and F9b seems to be the most stable for me but I've only tried one other bios which is F6 because it was on the board when I bought it.:rolleyes:
I may give your other suggestions a try later when I get home from work, thanks.:up:
My new board (RMA my old, they couldn´t fix it, got a new) came with F4 and I running some test with my Q6600 and ram config 4x1 (PC9600) and 4x2 (PC8500) just to see how much stress the board can take.
Gonna do the same with my Q9650.
After that I probably flash it to F8, F9b or a official F9 (which maybe have arrived then) to see if I can squeeze out some more.
Ghostleader, F8 was the worst bios of all that I tried. Would try the F7 or F9b.
Can someone get me a link to where to measure with a DMM for vcore on the UD3P :)
I've had a google but it didn't bring anything up, and this thread is a bit too long to browse through! :p:
Thanks..