Yes mate, pure garbage !!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by lowfat
I'm very angry about asus support.....:mad:
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Yes mate, pure garbage !!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by lowfat
I'm very angry about asus support.....:mad:
These are my settings, but it doesnt post with this even though they are just rated ram speeds. they are not my 24/7 settings, im just testing my ram to see how much they will oc. I use bios 0901 atmQuote:
Originally Posted by donmarkoni
edit: im using a i7 930 cpu.
Code:Target CPU Frequency 3003MHz
Target DRAM Frequency 2006MHz
LN2 Mode: Disabled***
QPI Loadline Calibration: Disabled***
Sync Mode [Enabled]
AI Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU level Up [Auto]
2D Performance Booster [Disabled]
CPU Ratio Setting [21.0]
CPU Turbo Power Limit [Disabled]
>CPU Configuration----------------------------
CPU Ratio Setting [21.0]
C1E Support [Disabled]
Hardware Prefetcher [Enabled]
Adjacent Cache Line Prefetcher [Enabled]
Intel(R) Virtualization Tech [Enabled]
CPU TM Function [Disabled]
Execute Disable Bit [Enabled]
Intel(R) HT Technology [Enabled]
Active Processor Cores [All]
A20M [Disabled]
Intel(R) SpeedStep(TM) Tech [Disabled]
Performance/Watt select [Power]
Intel(R) C-STATE Tech [Disabled]
C State package limit setting [Auto]
C1 Auto Demotion [Enabled]
C3 Auto Demotion [Enabled]
----------------------------------------------
BCLK Frequency [143]
PCIE Frequency [100]
DRAM Frequency [2006]
UCLK Frequency [auto]
QPI Link Data Rate [auto]
Memory Configuration Protect [Disabled]
>DRAM Timing Control--------------------------
CAS# Latency 8 [8]
RAS# to CAS# Delay 9 [9]
RAS# PRE Time 8 [8]
RAS# ACT Time 24[24]
RAS# to RAS# Delay 4 [Auto]
REF Cycle Time 72 [Auto]
WRITE Recovery Time 10 [Auto]
READ to PRE Time 6 [Auto]
FOUR ACT WIN Time 24 [Auto]
Back-To-BackCAS# Delay 0 [Auto]
Timing Mode 1N [1N]
Round Trip Latency on CHA 59 [Auto]
Round Trip Latency on CHB 61 [Auto]
Round Trip Latency on CHC 62 [Auto]
WRITE To READ Delay(DD) 8 [Auto]
WRITE To READ Delay(DR) 8 [Auto]
WRITE To READ Delay(SR) 18 [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(DD) 7 [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(DR) 7 [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(SR) 7 [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(DD) 7 [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(DR) 6 [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(SR) 4 [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(DD) 7 [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(DR) 7 [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(SR) 4 [Auto]
----------------------------------------------
CPU Differential Amplitude [Auto]
CPU Clock Skew [Auto]
IOH Clock Skew [Auto]
------------ Extreme Engine Digi+ ------------
Digi+ PWR Mode [T-Balanced]
PWR Volt. Control [Auto]
Load-Line Calibration [Full]
CPU Voltege OCP [Enabled]
CPU PWM Frequency [Auto]
Extreme OV [Enabled]*
Extreme OC [Auto]
CPU Voltage 1.25 [1.25]
CPU PLL Voltage 1.35 [1.35150]
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage 1.40 [1.40]
DRAM Bus Voltage 1.654 [1.65625]
>DRAM REF Voltages----------------------------
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA [Auto]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB [Auto]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHC [Auto]
----------------------------------------------
IOH Voltage 1.111 [Auto]
IOH PCIE Voltage 1.508 [Auto]
ICH Voltage 1.111 [Auto]
ICH PCIE Voltage [Auto]
*QPI Voltage OCP [Enabled]
*IOH Voltage OCP [Enabled]
*DRAM Voltage OCP [Enabled]
*QPI PWM Frequency [Auto]
*IOH PWM Frequency [Auto]
*DRAM PWM Frequency [Auto]
---------- Spread Spectrum Control -----------
CPU Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
DRAM Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
***on-board jumper dependant
I can't get iDirect to connect either. I tried using all three settings.
Has anyone else had an issue with this MB and large file copies to an external HD?
I have a WD 1TB external drive and try to copy my backup files to the external drive say 165GB at one time.
If I copy the 2 files separately, it will be ok, but when I try to copy at the same time, it will either bluescreen or hang at a random point during the copy.
I noticed that Win7 sometimes has trouble shutting down with the external drive. When using the computer during the day, it will sometimes forget that the external HD is connected and not show in "my computer".
I never had this issue with the Rampage II board.
OK. I assumed you're using Bloomfield while aiming for high RAM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reflex1
As I said to another user couple of post ago: "I think your main problem was trying to run UnCore @ 4GHz with too little voltage. Yes, 1.4 is usually too low for 4GHz UnCore. My Xeon W3540 needs 1.4125V for it."
When UCLK freq is set to Auto it will be lowest possible speed, in your case 4GHz, and it's hard to do without increasing VTT.
Be ready to go all the way up to 1.6-1.65V if you want to find out max RAM speed while using Bloomfield.
This man knows what he's talking about!Quote:
Originally Posted by donmarkoni
Mine needs around 1.66V to push 4.5 VTT.
I'm sure you meant 1.45VTT ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by bassplayer
He certainly does know what he's talking about. Which is why I want to ask, what would you say is a safe VTT to run on D0 Bloomfield for 24/7 use? I know Intel specs say 1.35v. Does this mean that 1.35v VTT is the safest limit to run and still have the cpu last you at least the warranty period of three years? So how much are you decreasing the life of the cpu by going over?
@turtletrax
With a build that nice it's a must for you to take your time ;). You seem to be the type that do all the necessary research and homework before getting into anything. I'm exactly the same way so I like that :up:.
Glad you're also going with Indigo Xtreme. Seems to be the best thermal solution available so I picked it up from SVC a while back. I'll be installing it tomorrow so will let you know the results :)
In my experience, it's more about watching your temps and just not using anything too extreme. Over 1.35 isn't a big deal, and you'll likely upgrade processors long before it would ever die on you.Quote:
Originally Posted by spoolindsm127
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=207972
No, I meant 1.66V. Bloomfield processors are much more resistant than Westmere. Considering max VCore is 1.35 and I've run 1.7, of course I'm going to push VTT too. I've only pushed it this high on dice, though. For my 24/7 VTT is at 1.48, 1.42 as measured with my DMM.Quote:
Originally Posted by spoolindsm127
Asus support reply this:Quote:
Originally Posted by bassplayer
That thing requires a driver on the PC end to allow communication with the iPhone / iPAD. I am checking with my Asus contact on the release date of the PC driver. Will come back here when I hear back from Asus
well, they release utility without Pc driver to use it.... EPIC FAIL:eek:
Hi guys, I'm looking for some help in getting my system stable.
I can load Win7 with no probs 21x215 at 1.4Vcore and 1.35uncore, but I get BSOD after 5-10mins of Prime95 (Errors 0x00000101 and 0x00000124).
I've upped the voltages up a bit, to 1.45Vcore and 1.4uncore, which I think is the highest safe for 24/7???, , temps are good 45idle and 66under load.
Here are my bios settings:
Any help would be greatly appreciated :DCode:BIOS 0901
Target CPU Frequency 4.504MHz
Target DRAM Frequency 1715MHz
LN2 Mode [Disabled]***
QPI Loadline Calibration [Enabled]***
Sync Mode [Enabled]
AI Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Setting [21]
CPU Turbo Power Limit [Disabled]
>CPU Configuration----------------------------
CPU Ratio Setting [21]
C1E Support [Disabled]
Hardware Prefetcher [Enabled]
Adjacent Cache Line Prefetcher [Enabled]
Intel(R) Virtualiyation Tech [Enabled]
CPU TM Function [Enabled]
Execute Disable Bit [Enabled]
Intel(R) HT Technology [Disabled]
Active Processor Cores [All]
A20M []
Intel(R) SpeedStep(TM) Tech [Disabled]
Intel(R) C-STATE Tech [Disabled]
----------------------------------------------
BCLK Frequency [214]
PCIE Frequency [102]
DRAM Frequency [1715]
UCLK Frequency [3432]
QPI Link Data Rate [7723]
Memory Configuration Protect [Disabled]
>DRAM Timing Control--------------------------
CAS# Latency [8]
RAS# to CAS# Delay [8]
RAS# PRE Time [8]
RAS# ACT Time [24]
RAS# to RAS# Delay [Auto]
REF Cycle Time [Auto]
WRITE Recovery Time [Auto]
READ to PRE Time [Auto]
FOUR ACT WIN Time [Auto]
Back-To-BackCAS# Delay [Auto]
Timing Mode [1]
Round Trip Latency on CHA [Auto]
Round Trip Latency on CHB [Auto]
Round Trip Latency on CHC [Auto]
WRITE To READ Delay(DD) [Auto]
WRITE To READ Delay(DR) [Auto]
WRITE To READ Delay(SR) [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(DD) [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(DR) [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(SR) [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(DD) [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(DR) [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(SR) [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(DD) [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(DR) [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(SR) [Auto]
----------------------------------------------
CPU Differential Amplitude [Auto]
CPU Clock Skew [Auto]
IOH Clock Skew [Auto]
------------ Extreme Engine Digi+ ------------
Digi+ PWR Mode [X-Power]
PWR Volt. Control [Auto]
Load-Line Calibration [50%]
CPU Voltege OCP [Enabled]
CPU PWM Frequency [Auto]
Extreme OV [Disabled]
Extreme OC [Auto]
CPU Voltage [1.45]
CPU PLL Voltage [1.81]
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage [1.4]
DRAM Bus Voltage [1.65]
>DRAM REF Voltages----------------------------
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA []
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA []
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB []
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB []
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC []
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHC []
----------------------------------------------
IOH Voltage [1.23]
IOH PCIE Voltage [1.5]
ICH Voltage [1.1]
ICH PCIE Voltage [Auto]
---------- Spread Spectrum Control -----------
CPU Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
DRAM Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
Guys...vcore advice for 980x + R3E mobo. Now I have until now been working my way up the vcore ranges and currently have it set to 1.25v. I have set my limit at 1.35v after reading posts on the net - got 32nm 1.35v 24/7 is safe. How many people have got there vcore set to 1.4v for 24/7 use? The reason I ask this question is that the crazy OC setting to 4.0 or 4.2Ghz automatically sets the CPU to 1.4v - this would mean 1.4v is safe for long term use if the cooling is good. I am on 3.9Ghz at the moment and want to know what vcore I should limit myself at. To summarize, how many people are actually running there 980x 24/7 with 1.4v and how long have u been running it (months, weeks, etc). Really appreciate the responses;))
Intels voltage range 0.800V-1.375V Intel 980X
I've had mine up to 4.5-4.7GHz 1.45v for a few bench tests other than that it runs at 3.6GHz 1.23V 24/7, I'm a gamer and really don't need anything higher yet but I might when I add another GTX 480 for tri sli and I have a stable 4.3GHz 1.32v if needed which I ran for a few days and figured out I didn't need it, Over-clocking the cards seems to make a bigger difference right now for gaming anyhow. 825/1650/1980
For me unless I need a higher over-clock for a good purpose it's staying as low as possible.
What do you all think of BIOS 1005 so far?? Are they more stable than the previous releases and dose everything still function as it should?
:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by axlros75
Well done, Asus... well done!
I run my 980x @ 4.13GHZ and 1.3v vCore for over a month now. Runs cool and has never crashed on me.Quote:
Originally Posted by JenBell
Thanks for the replies everyone.
I was thinking of whether or not it would be too detrimental to run my 920 @ 4.2GHz 1.25v vCore and the GTs at 7-7-7-20-1N 2000MHz 1.35VTT for 24/7. I've concluded it's safe :up:
Too low vCore, IMO. VTT is probably more then enough for that UnCore speed, but it's not easy to run CPU @ 4.5GHz.Quote:
Originally Posted by rhia
Good. :up: Probably best of both paths of development 100x and 00xx. 0011 and 1004 shared same BIOS template, so you could cross-load settings into each other. 1005 could be merger of two.Quote:
Originally Posted by angel_dust
the 1005 is preferred at 0011?Quote:
Originally Posted by donmarkoni
:up:
Thanks, will try increasing Vcore and lowering VTTQuote:
Too low vCore, IMO. VTT is probably more then enough for that UnCore speed, but it's not easy to run CPU @ 4.5GHz.
A couple of questions,
IOH Voltage, what is the safe operating limits for this? 24/7
What is the consensus regarding these 4 options, that may be beneficial to overclocking?
CPU Differential Amplitude [Auto]
CPU Clock Skew [Auto]
IOH Clock Skew [Auto]
CPU PWM Frequency [Auto]
your 920 is exelente, with 4000 for uncor and 1.35v of vQPI :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by spoolindsm127
Thanks :) Now I wish I had watercooling at least...LN2 would be amazing. This chip is very strong unfortunately I'm only on air and limited to around 4.39GHz.Quote:
Originally Posted by tistou77
That is still pretty good for air, decent IMC on that chip. Anything between 3845-3849 batch code should have killer potential. I have a 3849B041 i7 920 that can do 4750 on water max and runs 4200 24/7 at 1.25v prime stable.
Yea the 384x B batches are infamous for being monster overclockers. Nice chip you have there btw ;) What's different about my chip is that it's a A batch but has crazy overclocking potential.
I need to edit my post actually, my 3949A372 runs 4.0GHz at 1.18v vCore and 4.2GHz at 1.25v vCore...very similar to your chip.
I also had a question about i7s and the individual core temps. For me I see a 5-6 degree difference sometimes between the #0 and #3 core. Is this normal? I have seen screenshots of other people's i7s and some have this pattern while some do not. At first I thought it had something to do with a component on my motherboard that was heating up a certain section of the heatsink. But I think it may just be normal right?
Yes I would consider that somewhat normal as die contact is certainly not perfect across the entire surface area, that is why some peeps here lap there sinks and the chip for better thermal contact. All chips are different as well based on where in the wafer they are cut from and binning, I have seen some strange temp readings though I do not get too excited unless it creates an issue regarding stability.
Normal.Quote:
Originally Posted by spoolindsm127
No problems at all, copy large files and groups of files all the time . Also using an Adaptec PCI card with 4 sata ports, all with no problem. System has two dozen drives connected in all kinds of configurations, ie Sata, E-Sata, USB, IDE, Network.
Quote:
Originally Posted by fuzelogic
I've got a Crucial C300 SATA III SSD connected to the Marvel SATA _6G_1 connectors on the motherboard however I do not see anything in the CMOS settings that is referencing the drive or indicating that it sees the drive. What I'm I suppose to see in the CMOS settings the indicates the the BIOS sees the drive that is connected to it?. Is there anything that is supposed to be indicated in the CMOS settings that indicates that the drive is configured properly. I am going to use the drive as the boot drive but as with a SATA hard drive I need to know that the BIOS configures the drive properly. Please respond to this post with the information as to how do I install and configure this drive.
Thanks
Looks and "feels" same to me. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by tistou77
I wouldn't go over 1.25V IOH, as it's usually not needed for 24/7. I took it to 1.4V on air for finding max BCLK. I use 1.15V for 24/7 just to be safe when gaming, but it can run 205 BCLK @ default 1.1VQuote:
Originally Posted by rhia
AFAIK, CPU Differential Amplitude and CPU PWM Frequency could give you that extra stability when on the edge.
CPU and IOH Clock Skew is used for high overclock under extreme cold.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Cool...I have the same SSD 256GB. I had issues getting the mobo to detect the SSD. I only left the SSD connected and optical drives and booted with BIOS defaults. SSD is connected to intel on-board and not the sata3 controller...better performance (dont have spare PCI-e for addin card). Also make sure that ur HDD priorities is in check for optical and HDDs (SSD should be top. For example my HDDs list 1. SSD 2. 1TB 3. 1TB...etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coolbreeze
Quick question - Will running the PLL voltage lower than normal (around 1.4) cause any degradation of my i7 970?
I can't think of a reason why lower voltage would cause degradation.Quote:
Originally Posted by darkip
Intel spec says PLL should be 1.65V-1.89V. Just curious if I might be causing any damage running it lowerQuote:
Originally Posted by sn0man
For the boards that allowed it, on the i7 920/930 a lot of people were running lower voltages on the PLL and achieving better overclocks. As long as it's stable, you should be fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by darkip
Yep. I keep mine around 1.45-1.5V.Quote:
Originally Posted by sn0man
It was at 1.5V for my 5.59GHz W3520 submission and the 5.4GHz Pi runs.
I dont have an ssd, but i have a 1tb sata_6g wd black edition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coolbreeze
connected it to the marvel controller.
in the bios where it configs onboard devices, change onboard sata6g controller to ahci mode.
U should be able to see it and the speed when marvell bios is posting or enter the marvel raid utility to verify that it sees it and using the right speed.
but even without setting it to ahci, it should still run at a reduced speed
you shouldnt have to set anything for sata drives to work.
good luck
I run 4.3Ghz 24/7 1.4v cpu ever since release of bios 0704. 0011 now and still stable with 100x linx. Like 0011 stability better than 1005 on my rigQuote:
Originally Posted by JenBell
my 980x is 100% stable: 32x133 at 1.375v
id say its safe for 24/7 on the stock cooler
but i down clock/volt it when im not playing games to save elec
:ROTF: Isn't that some :banana::banana::banana::banana:?Quote:
Originally Posted by axlros75
I'm concerned that I have damaged either my CPU, DRAM, or motherboard component.
I'm using a full watercooling loop; but had been pushing voltages a little. For some passes of LinX @ 4.3 - 4.4Ghz, I had my CPU vcore at 1.5 with an i7 930. I also ran a high overclock with close to 1.5 vcore 24/7 ... for a couple of weeks.
I'd also experimented with memory speeds / relative CPU overclock, and had set the XMP profile that loaded from my G-Skill Trident 3 x 2GB sticks. The XMP profile seemed to have inordinately high VTT/QPI - about 1.48v ... I should have known better.
Anyway - suffice to say that I may have been brash with my voltages, even though most of my temps seemed within limits and a fair way off TJ max.
Lately, I've had to tune back my overclock on my i7 930 to sub 4Ghz ... and I'm still getting strange instabilities. I can still LinX pass @ 4Ghz, but I'm getting system freeze in my gaming applications at that overclock. I've eliminated my GPU's and PSU from any potential problem ... and right now I'm testing the system running just two of my three RAM sticks. LinX is now stable happily at 4.2 Ghz again, but with 4GB or RAM (dual channel).
I'm really only a newbie; but my thoughts are that I have degraded my memory controller on the i7 930. I can't hold clocks as high, and overclocks that were stable are now impossible to hold. Is my assumption consistent with what I'm experiencing?
I did for a time run my DRAM voltage at 1.72v; but I think this is more acceptable than running my QPI at about 1.48v ... and CPU at close to 1.5.
It's not the end of the world, if I've degraded the i7 930 to the point of uselessness, it's not a big deal to replace it since it's a relatively cheap CPU. Same with the DRAM; if that's the problem. The REAL frustration is that I'm not sure where the problem lies ... perhaps I have caused some fault in the actual RIIIE motherboard? This last possibility is the one I fear the the most, it's an expensive component, and I've set it all up with the water loop - I don't want to have to do a full system build again with a new motherboard, at least not right now.
Just to reiterate, I'm getting system freezes (not BSOD) when trying to game using overclocks that were once stable. The RIIIE has proven a great overclocking board, but I may have overvolted a bit too much, stupidly. Do any of you more experienced users think that my assumption of CPU degradation, in particular the memory controller (which I think is on the CPU) is correct?
I would say it is the CPU. It is pretty hard to damage a mobo without doing it physically or running it overheated for long periods of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Toritechie
I am guessing you dont have another proc to test with? Easy way would be to find another one to test with and start to narrow down the culprit. Test with a new proc first, then if still the prob, test memory. If no go then it gets more interesting. You would then have to look into mobo, psu and so on down the line.
I havent scrapped a i7 proc yet but I did really screw a Q6600 and it exhibited extremely strange behavior close to what you describe. Zsamz has it in a family members rig running sub 2Ghz to run stable, and it was all done with a high clock, multi hours Prime run.
I hope you get it sorted :)
I don't know, I run mine @ 1.2V :D Ask me in a couple of months. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by darkip
I actually had different experience and only know that bassplayer had found it to be more stable with Bloomfield.Quote:
Originally Posted by sn0man
But if it works... :up:
@Toritechie:
I could not agree more with turtletrax, but there is one thing you can do first, just to be sure, and doesn't require additional HW. Take that 3rd memory stick you pulled out and swap with 2nd one that is still on MB. That way you will be sure there is no problem with one of RAM sticks and that third channel on CPU's IMC is dammaged.
I've just finished a long gaming session with no freezes; using my old overclock of 4.2Ghz; but just using dual channel 4GB RAM. System was rock solid, I also did a LinX pass on it without a hitch. Could I be lucky enough that the RAM stick I pulled out was a bad one? I did a windows memcheck (from the F8 menu as you boot), and it said my memory was fine ....Quote:
Originally Posted by turtletrax
Perhaps there is a reduced stress on my possibly damaged i7 930, I would imagine it'd be easier for the memory controller to manage 2 channels rather than 3 ...
hmm "a linx pass"? Define stability?Quote:
Originally Posted by Toritechie
For me, i run IBT first for 5 runs max setting. Its fast to identify whether system is more or less stable. Then reboot and run linx 75/100x for 4/6/8 hours overnight while i zzzz. 8)
If you suspect memory, run memtest overnight?
Had used Trident b4 this set, don;t remember it need 1.72 unless you are squeezing it to like 7-7-7-21-1T kind of timing.
hows 0011 for bloomfield? :) looking to play 920 d0 on ln2 for a couple days
Peoples...my CPU PLL Voltage setting is high. This is set to 1.8v at the moment, from previous responses it should be lower. Can someone give me what the default should be (1.1v or 1.25v?) and what should be my max with a 980x please? Thank u very much:-)
The default is 1.8Quote:
Originally Posted by JenBell
Allot of people including myself are running it lower without issue. Try some numbers and find a value that is stable, but you probably want to stay above 1.2
Is it just me or is Turbo mode unstable for a 930 @ 4.2? I now have it stable at 4.2 200x21 (1.325v) 2000 RAM 7-9-7-24 but would like to push for 4.5. After experimenting for HOURS I discovered the following:
1. Anything over 4.2 (x21) needs ALL C-Stepping options OFF to even boot which adds an extra 3 degrees onto the max temp
2. Anything over 4.4 needs a LOT more juice. Even 1.41v couldn't bench without BSOD'ing..
3. Anything over 4.4 runs a LOT hotter. I'm talking 90+ under 100% load compared to 76 @ 4.2Ghz. Is 90+ dangerous?
4. It HATES 22x. 21x it is.
5. Turbo mode decreases RAM latency from 40.8 to 40.0 with CL7 timings in Everest
6. Holy :banana::banana::banana::banana: overclocking can consume your life... :-/
So I bumped up to 4.3 (205x21) and 2050 RAM with slightly higher RAM timings and a small compromise in temp. Seems stable but haven't run intensive tests yet. Superpi 1M is 9.5sec if I remember correctly. Quick bios rundown for current 24/7 setup:
CPU Freq: 4.2
DRAM: 2005
Bclock: 200
PCIE: 100 (+?) 8800GT OC
Multi: 21
Cpu vcore: 1.325
QPI: 1.5ish AUTO (1.4 or lower won't boot)
PLL: 1.810 (although it runs stable @ 1.65 I heard 1.8+ for Bloomfield, right?)
DRAM: 1.65 (Recommended by Kingston for 2000Mhz)
Sorry about the lack of detail. It's 1:22am and I should be sleeping. Should I persist with a 22x or 23x multi, or stick with the 21x and push the bclock? I'm still not too sure of the impact QPI and PLL voltages make to stability. If anyone could shed any light on this it would be much appreciated! :)
Thank you and goodnight
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run memory 1600-1800mhz @ 6-8-6-4-60 needs less vtt ;)+ less stress +its just as fast:yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by Toritechie
push the cpu till it caves in lol intel will give you a new one:D
or you can give her to a freind n get a good 920 or a 950
my mom still running the q6600 that turtletrax tortured :rofl:
So am I right in understanding:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Flowerday
1. Default in BIOS is correct at 1.8v
2. People have run this as low as 1.2 (dom being one of the people who do...er...hello Dom^_^)
Can someone tell me the advantage of using less voltage in this case? Lack of voltage can also kill hardware and kind of weary of messing the hardware due to my lack of knowledge:confused:
So who made Full cover waterblocks for this board so far ? Ive seen EK and koolance
Is there difference in performance between the two ?
Don't think there's much to gain once your waterloop starts to heat up... also what's the difference between eg 32 and 35°C on the chipset here. Fun thing is that my CPU temps are almost not affected by adding the full EK block into my loop...
:rofl: Welcome to overclocking! :welcome:Quote:
Originally Posted by Phatonian71
All your 5 discoveries are pretty spot on.
And the 6th is absolutely my favorite. :ROTF:
About temps, I don't consider 90+ dangerous, but it's not recommended for 24/7.
PCI-E is OK @ 100 for BCLK @ 200.
I wouldn't recommend running 24/7 with such high VTT (QPI/DRAM) 1.5+. General opinion is that it should be kept under 1.45.
Lowering CPU PLL could help you, but not necessarily. It usually doesn't help with Bloomfield. If I interpret correctly Intel's specs, lower limit for Bloomfields is 1.65 and for Guftowns there is practically none.
In your case I recommend running CPU @ 4.3GHz 205x21 (as you already do), but drop the memory to 1640, UnCore to 3690 and tighten the latencies, so you can lower VTT.
Hi! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by JenBell
With lowered CPU PLL I gain stability with less vCore. I hope it doesn't kill my CPU until I sell it to some less extreme OC'er.
don...lowered PPL to 1.55. If 1.25 is low and 1.8 is default...1.5 is a good inbetween number;-)
Guys, why i have red PLL voltage:
http://www.abload.de/img/dsc_4396zcyi.jpg
With this new rig, I finally get to join the 4Ghz club :toast:
24hr prime stable:
http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/t...s/th_prime.png
My max temp would have been 84C instead of 87C but my ambient temp briefly went up. I'm sure my temps will be lower during gaming anyway. ;)
http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/t...us/th_pi1m.png
http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/t..._cinebench.png
What Bios ver Malik?Quote:
Originally Posted by Malik
Quote:
Originally Posted by Malik
1005, right? It warns of low voltages too. Don't worry.Quote:
Originally Posted by playground
Quote:
Originally Posted by donmarkoni
Nice catch donmarkoni :)
Should have thought of that :D
Quick update..
4.5Ghz (215x21) now stable on my 930! It took many, MANY hours nutting out voltages but I've finally got it. Here is a quick rundown:
CPU 4.523Ghz
DDR 1725Mhz 6-8-6-20
CPUv 1.437
PLL 1.88
QPI 1.45
DRAM 1.64
Hope this helps out anyone else looking to hit 4.5 on air. As you'd expect, temps are high maxing out in the low 90s in IntelBurn. Superpi is 9.0, compared to 9.7s at 4.2Ghz/2000Mhz. Thanks again donmarkoni and others for your help! :)
Bios 0802 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by donmarkoni
That's about my looking at voltages in BIOS. :ROTF: Never noticed before 1005. :D I usually use DMM to check and compare with Everest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Malik
Nice results m8!Quote:
Originally Posted by Phatonian71
heh :) so which bios is great to install in your opinion ? And second question low voltage for example 1.4V is bad for cpu ?Quote:
Originally Posted by donmarkoni
eh no voltage is like bad as long ure cooling is sufficient.Quote:
Originally Posted by Malik
vtt also.
btw u sure u want to overclock a i7 920 +gtx470+9800gt with a power hungry digital VR r3e on a hx620 on aircooling??
Been trying for awhile now to get a stable OC with QPI LLC on, LinX usualy stopped very early or around 10 runs before getting error.
Also got some fail OC messages from cold boot on startup:shakes:
Yesterday i moved the QPI LLC jumper to off and i get 20 stable on 2nd try...with tad less voltages compared to my most stable with QPI LLC jumper on:confused:
Been trying to figure why but no luck yet, guess maybe my setup just dont like QPI LLC thou CPU LLC is usualy on Full Calibration with no problems.
Think ill stick with QPI LLC off until i get my watercooling sorted and maybe try again then unless anyone got an idea:p:
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/g...nX16092010.jpg
@MariaH79
You can check and note your VTT (when it drops) while stressing with LinX, then set QPI LLC Enabled and set voltage in BIOS according to what you noted before.
If you guys noticed, the app for the iPhone was posted to the app store the other day. Unfortunately we found out that it needed an accompanying driver on the host PC to make it work, and ASUS hadn't released it yet...
Well HERE IT IS!
http://rapidshare.com/files/41896374...k_v1.00.16.zip
It seems to work great over Wifi, I haven't tried USB or Bluetooth yet. Bluetooth apparently requires you have tethering enabled on your iPhone.
The installer is bad and doesn't add start menu items, so you have to navigate to:
C:\Program Files (x86)\ASUS\ASUS Mobilink\
and launch the ASUS Mobilink.exe file manually.
I added it to my startup folder to avoid having to start it every time.
Also figured I'd share my BIOS template in case someone has a similar config, and is looking for help:
Code:Target CPU Frequency 4200MHz
Target DRAM Frequency 2005MHz
LN2 Mode [Disabled]***
QPI Loadline Calibration [Enabled]***
Sync Mode [Enabled]
AI Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Setting [Auto]
CPU Turbo Power Limit [Disabled]
>CPU Configuration----------------------------
CPU Ratio Setting [Auto]
C1E Support [Disabled]
Hardware Prefetcher [Enabled]
Adjacent Cache Line Prefetcher [Enabled]
MPS and ACPI MADT ordering [Modern ordering]
Intel(R) Virtualiyation Tech [Enabled]
CPU TM Function [Disabled]
Execute Disable Bit [Enabled]
Intel(R) HT Technology [Enabled]
Active Processor Cores [All]
A20M [Disabled]
Intel(R) SpeedStep(TM) Tech [Disabled]
Intel(R) Turbo Mode Tech [Disabled]
Intel(R) C-STATE Tech [Disabled]
C State package limit setting [Disabled]
----------------------------------------------
BCLK Frequency [200]
PCIE Frequency [100]
DRAM Frequency [DDR3-2005MHz]
UCLK Frequency [4009MHz]
QPI Link Data Rate [7218MT/s]
Memory Configuration Protect [Disabled]
>DRAM Timing Control--------------------------
CAS# Latency [9]
RAS# to CAS# Delay [9]
RAS# PRE Time [9]
RAS# ACT Time [25]
RAS# to RAS# Delay [Auto]
REF Cycle Time [132]
WRITE Recovery Time [Auto]
READ to PRE Time [Auto]
FOUR ACT WIN Time [Auto]
Back-To-BackCAS# Delay [Auto]
Timing Mode [1N]
Round Trip Latency on CHA [Auto]
Round Trip Latency on CHB [Auto]
Round Trip Latency on CHC [Auto]
WRITE To READ Delay(DD) [Auto]
WRITE To READ Delay(DR) [Auto]
WRITE To READ Delay(SR) [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(DD) [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(DR) [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(SR) [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(DD) [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(DR) [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(SR) [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(DD) [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(DR) [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(SR) [Auto]
----------------------------------------------
CPU Differential Amplitude [800mV]
CPU Clock Skew [Auto]
IOH Clock Skew [Auto]
------------ Extreme Engine Digi+ ------------
Digi+ PWR Mode [T-Balanced]
PWR Volt. Control [Auto]
Load-Line Calibration [Full Calibration]
CPU Voltege OCP [Enabled]
CPU PWM Frequency [1000KHz]
Extreme OV [Disabled]
Extreme OC [Auto]
CPU Voltage [1.36250]
CPU PLL Voltage [Auto]
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage [1.48750]
DRAM Bus Voltage [1.65625]
>DRAM REF Voltages----------------------------
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA [Auto]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB [Auto]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHC [Auto]
----------------------------------------------
IOH Voltage [1.25875]
IOH PCIE Voltage [Auto]
ICH Voltage [Auto]
ICH PCIE Voltage [Auto]
---------- Spread Spectrum Control -----------
CPU Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
DRAM Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
***on-board jumper dependant
How is this motherboard holding up with you guys and gals
I used to have asus board but they only last 2 years under full load ... I'm now using gigabyte and evga mostly
What OS you have?
Win7 x64 does not work at all.
Program does not do anything when launched, iphone cannot connect when configured to connect directly to computer assigned (static) IP via tcp/ip.
Quote:
Originally Posted by zoson
I'm running 24/7 @ 4ghz (182x22) but I was thinking today, how can the 930 use a 22x multi? 21 x 133 = 2.8ghz (stock speed), so how is it that I'm able to use a 22x multi when overclocking and with turbo mode disabled? My bios lets me select 22x just like 21x...
Also, my bios and cpu-z say 4ghz but right-clicking on "my computer" says 3.83 ghz. Since 3.83ghz = 182*21, is it just thinking I'm using a 21x multi?
Running benches such as cinebench and super pi definitely indicate 4ghz clocks and I tend to believe my bios and cpu-z over windows reporting...
So I just finished my build and everything booted up OK on first attempt... Updated motherboard BIOS to latest version (1005)... Things are going very well, except for one issue... please let me know if anyone has any ideas on this - thx.
Haven't installed any OS yet, although will be installing Windows 7 Ultimate x64. Have the RIIIE running w/4 hard drives attached to the ICH ports... 2 of those drives I would like to configure in RAID0 mode... also have 1 SATA 6Gb/s drive plugged into one of the Marvell SATA6Gb ports (just an FYI - not part of this issue)... then I have 2 more hard drives connected to a Promise FastTrak TX-2300 PCI RAID Controller card in a RAID1 config. I have the "Onboard SATA6G Controller" set to AHCI mode (just an FYI), as well as under the main "Storage Configuration" I have "Configure SATA as" RAID (rather than IDE or AHCI)... here's the issue... when configured in RAID mode, I can see the ICH RAID config during bootup, BUT I don't see the Promise TX2300 RAID BIOS at all... even in the Boot Menu in the BIOS, the "RAID: FT TX2300 Array" doesn't appear there... However, if I switch the SATA config to AHCI I can then see the FastTrak BIOS config menu during startup, as well as it appearing in the Boot Device list... of course then I can't access the Intel ICH controller RAID BIOS config (although I do see the drives attached to it)!!
The question is - how can I get BOTH the Promise PCI RAID Controller AND Intel ICH RAID Controller to be enabled and available in the BIOS at the same time?? I would like to create RAID arrays on each and currently this is not possible... Or can I just configure the Intel RAID0 array using Matrix Storage Manager once Windows is installed (is this possible and/or recommended)?
One other question - does the BIOS RAID & AHCI modes use the same driver in Windows 7? That is, can I move forward w/my Windows installation (which is not going on either RAID array, but on a single SSD) and not worry about driver/BSOD issues if I switch between AHCI and RAID modes in the BIOS later on? I realize there a registry hack to get around having the reinstall Windows, but just wanted to know if the driver was the same or not... thanks for any help!!
Here is the hardware config:
Case: Corsair Obsidian 800D
Motherboard: Asus Rampage III Extreme
Processor: Intel Core i7 930
Memory: 3x2GB GSkill Pi Series PC3-16000
Video: XFX Radeon HD 5850 "XXX Edition"
System Drive: OCZ Vertex 2E 60GB OCZ Vertex 2 Sandforce Chipset
Data Drives: 2x500GB Seagate RAID1, 2x1.5TB WD Black RAID1, 1xOCZ Colossus OCZSSD2-1CLS250G 3.5" 250GB, 1xWD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB SATA 6.0Gb/s
Optical Drives: LG BluRay Burner, Asus DVD/RW
Sound: Auzentech Forte 7.1 PCI-e
Expansion Cards: Asus U3S6 USB3.0 & SATA6Gb/s PCI-e, Promise FastTrak TX2300 PCI RAID Controller
Display: Matrix Orbital LK-204-7T-1U-USB-TCI Tri Color 20x4 Character Display
Bay Device: Akasa All In One 2 Control Panel (used for ports only, not fan/temp control)
Pump/Fan/Thermal Power & Control: MCubed T-Balancer BigNG w/Analog Sensor Hub
You don't think your QPI/Dram voltage is too high? I always though 1.45 was the max. Is this a 24/7 OC?Quote:
Originally Posted by zoson
And where is your multiplier in your template?
have you tried hitting CTRL+M during POST, as described by spoolindsm127:Quote:
Originally Posted by lonkny
Quote:
Originally Posted by spoolindsm127
On my rampage 2 extreme i had it on 1.60 24/7 to run my GT's @ 2000 7-8-7-20Quote:
Originally Posted by VoXPCS
never had problems >_<
I had a evga classy 760.. This board is much more stable (can only speak for my self).. not so much under or over volting from bios to windows. and more stable with my ram..Quote:
Originally Posted by overdoze
Well i got both and both are stable when clock properlyQuote:
Originally Posted by AceBaran
What i really dont like about this mobo is
It doesnt do 2k c8 at the correct vdimm
But does 2k c7 easy.
And again bios set voltage on dram dmm read overvolts by 0.02v on load. Recheck the sticks on 4 other boards to confirm
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...1/a99edce5.jpg
hmm ok this is the big difference on bandwidth r3e vs classy
basic..
classy main bandwidth on reduction of Cl on equal ram speed is the RTL's
rather than the subtimings of Read to Write
r3e gains bandwidth from lower Read to write than classy
uncore 4k dram 2000
R3e - RTL for any CL on R3e is best at 58,60,61
Classy - CL7 is at 53,56,58,CL8 is 58,60,61 CL9 is 61,63,64 etc
on CL8's the R3e is faster.. but when it comes to CL7 classy bandwidth is higher with lower latency
uncore 4k dram 1600
this is where the classy starts kicking r3e butt on latency
R3e - RTL 64,60,61.. on any CL's is optimum
EVGA - CL7= 2k C9 rtl's, CL6 = 2k C8 rtl's , CL5 = 2k C7's RTL's,
Vdimm Scaling
I am assuming this is the reason for r3e.. its because of the Read to Writes
r3e = 2k C8 = 1.52v , 2k C7 1.6v
classy = 2k C8 1.5v , 2k C7 1.6v
r3e = 1600 C6 1.5v.. and overclocking on this fixed preset is the same classy on vdimm
classy = 1600 C6 = 1.5v
ok this where i cheesed of with r3e
normally in any other mobo ure 2k C8 = 1866 C7 = 1600 C6 same vdimm.
And here is actually the cool part about r3e
Pro's of R3e
Its easier to clock 2000 compared to classy as the rtl's are more or less the same all out. So just the vdimm and ure qpi voltage for ure 2k rams and the 2k C8 and C9 is faster than classy
Cons of R3e
Above CL8.. on 2k .. not going to make much of a difference.
I can say this board feels better for sure.... although i couldnt explain it like you do.. since i dont know much about it.. still learning :)Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
Testing with linX gives me waaaay less bsods and much more room to experiment volt and speed wise ..
basic conclusion on the presets given.. r3e is more like noob proof up to bclk 200 for dram 2000mhz
but will also loose out to classy for PSC ram chips for 2133 and above at cpu multi 10.
btw asus has take more precautions on ocp for ure hardware
they have a 4 level ocp on r3e
one for cpu, vtt/qpi, dram and ioh..
it also has a dual llc options for vtt/qpi and cpu .. ( reason being for those not too keen to clock their ram )
and the LLC on it is pretty nifty with the 50 percent thingy.. ( afaik dfi dk x58 started this first on digital pwms)
few more notes
hmm basically for me atm my classy is beating the r3e but only after 2130mhz bclk 213 x21 dram speeds
but the tech on r3e is actually quite amazing.
This isn't part of the issue, as I'm not using the Marvell controller for RAID (only have 1 drive connected to it)... although just an FYI - I do have the Asus U3S6 PCIe card hooked up as well, and it does show up during POST. The issue I'm having is getting both the Intel ICH RAID config as well as the Promise FastTrak TX2300 RAID config screens to display during POST... if I'm in AHCI mode I see the Promise but not the Intel... if I'm in RAID mode I see the Intel but not the Promise... any ideas?? Thinking about removing the U3S6 to see if that helps but would hate to lose 2 USB3.0 and 2 SATA6Gb/s ports! I already removed my JMicron PCI-e RAID Controller...Quote:
Originally Posted by fgw
I have Win7 x64. The program launches AAHM.exe which should be visible in your task manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rubycon
After I launched it, I just switched the app to Wifi mode, entered my PC's IP, and it worked. My IP is also statically assigned by my router.
From what I've been reading you can set your QPI to anything you want as long as it's within .5v of your vDimm. The CPU can't even detect all 12GB of my ram until I'm giving it 1.425v QPI or more.Quote:
Originally Posted by VoXPCS
I have my multiplier set to Auto and turbo turned off. That means I'm using the i7 930's stock, non-turbo multiplier of 21.
its your ram i can run 7-7-7-20 1N with my super tanlent ;) but g2g to work :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
post a ss later :)
lol.. if u aint gonna do 2150 and above on bclk 215..Quote:
Originally Posted by Dom7184
not worth mentioning
lol..
Don't think anyone runs rams over 2100Mhz for benching nor for 24/7, most stop around the 2000mhz mark with tight timings. Above looser B2B reduces efficiency... I can run 2260C8 on the RE III no problem...
Classie shines with big uncore speeds... So easy on that board compared to the newer generation X58 boards... a very well designed board, way ahead of it's time !! Kuddos to Peter and the eVGA team, well done !! Too bad we can't get hold of any samples from them ever...
I dropped my multi from 22x to 20x so I could raise my base clock to 200mhz & run my ram at 1600mhz. Still 24 hr prime stable:
http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/t...prime9520x.png
http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/t...inebench-1.png
:toast:
Seems like, everybody is getting high bclk, 240+ ? is that true, or only some boards can do it ?
why do i need bclk 215 when i got a unlocked multi :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
rightQuote:
Originally Posted by Dom7184
carry on with the screenshot. with some bandwidth on everest
Think ill have to start over again, tried the above but got error on 2nd run:)Quote:
Originally Posted by donmarkoni
Think i been pushing Volts to low maybe, and QPI LLC being off compensated somehow maybe "not sure":p:
Anyways will try some more today, thou im wondering about one thing : Got some Corsair memory sticks @1604Mhz "exact name in sig",
was wondering does that count as memory OC and how much effort should i put into setting RTLīs while still within what Corsair tested or should i leave it on auto?:confused:
See some set em.. while other leave all 3 RTLīs on Auto..
Since there is still no binning on the IOH chips used on the high end boards, high Bclocks are not warranted... I've seen UD9's stopping at 220, even a REX III locking at 215 for Christ's sake :(Quote:
Originally Posted by recent
Secondly it's not only the board that's the limiting factor, a lot depends on ya CPU and cooling setup... A brilliant board can't make a crappy CPU shine...
@MariaH79
If you really want to overclock the bit out of your memory, then try tightening RTL's and watch you bandwidth. Just be careful not to damage your OS while playing with memory. ;) Happened to me twice. :D
Here are some very good threads to read (not too large): RTL and Questions about Round Trip Latency
Can I get link for Bios 1005? The one on First page does not work.
Hey guys, i have a question to solve a dispute.
How many guys are running 12GBs of 2000Mhz memory for 24/7 usage? Is it possible? And if so what kind of QPI/Dram voltage you need?
How big is the RTL effect in eg superpi 32m ? Everst is not a good indication as it can be fooled or boosted by some bios tweaks : showing big bandwith, low latency numbers, though zero gain in eg Superpi 32M
I never touched them values as they are usually pretty tight preset...
its up on the official site now m8.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hardass
http://support.asus.com/download/dow...Language=en-us
hence y disable write cache back on hdd'sQuote:
Originally Posted by donmarkoni
so far from my testingQuote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
from the default auto.. u can get about -1/-2 on 2x uncore
but say on dram 1600 uncore 4k.. the auto is very loose.. u can bring down to 6 -8 rtls
Thank you.:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by fmsam
Guys...my ICH and IOH temps are 68c and 67c. These are high compared what I've seen...any ideas on how to get the temp down?