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Originally Posted by sin0822
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Thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by sin0822
I think they will figure it out, so far i found the most stable BIOS for OC to be F7E and F6X for Cpu PLL Personally with a D1 stepping chip cpu pll overvoltage has no affect. seems like they have fiddled wtih LLC Level2 and LLC level1 a lot, but i think they need to tune down LLC level2.Quote:
Originally Posted by stasio
Yes i can do 5.2 ghz with this BIOS, but then again CPu pLL Overvoltage i don't need.
Anyone able to install WinXP successfully? Which AHCI/IDE drivers do we need to integrate? I just downloaded the latest RST drivers from Intel. Intel RST Driver
No problem with windows XP - benched to my hearts content with XP.
OCZ Vertex 2 SSD install OS and boot as normal. Did nothing else special at all.
@1Day: I managed to install on IDE mode. Was trying to get it to install using AHCI. This will do for now. Thanks a mill!
Ok give me twenty and I will install using AHCI if I can. Thought I had actually :rofl: guess I need some sleep.Quote:
Originally Posted by maxxx
BSOD when trying to install using ACHI> must have then installed on my SSD using IDE.
Using F7 for the first time got into windows running stable 4.5Ghz on 1.296v. This is the lowest voltage I have been able to run @4.5. But I cannot seem to really do much with 48x or 50x without the pll overvoltage option (I could bench at 5Ghz on F6X). I can get into windows with 48 multi between 1.34 - 1.38vcore (in windows) using LLC Level2 but it keeps crashing with BSOD124 randomly.
Picked up a 2500k today, Seems a little better than my 2600k. Have to enable Internal PLL at 49x on this chip instead of 47x on my 2600. It also clocks 200mhz higher before I get the dreaded 4E post code and fails to boot. I guess when you reach the multiplier where you have to enable Internal PLL is the indicator of how high the chips max oc will be, 600mhz above that will the max?
Just start to test F7f BIOS with CPU PLL overvoltage option,dated 26.Jan(just before F7).
Supose to enhance memory performance.
Thank you stasio!
Have you tested CPU PLL voltage with the Internal CPU PLL setting enabled? Or has anyone tested it with a DMM?
i will do DMM testing if you like
That would be awesome! I was wondering what the CPU PLL actual voltage was when using Internal CPU PLL overvoltage set to enabled with voltage in the bios set to 1.80v.Quote:
Originally Posted by sin0822
When you use the DMM you use the ground/black wire from the molex connector for your ground/black probe? If so the problem is all my wires on the AX1200 are black. I guess I just see which wire from the fan with molex connector is black to find the ground?
Will be good to know about Auto/Normal voltage for:Quote:
Originally Posted by sin0822
-QPI/VTT
-System Agent Voltage
-PCH Core
-CPU PLL
as they always show default in ET6.:confused:
maybe a scope shot too...
GREAT news :)Quote:
Originally Posted by sin0822
haha you guys are asking a lot i have to pull the board out of the case.
I will do it just let me goto dinner with my girlfriend first ok :) I will do it tonight though.
Thank you sir! :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by sin0822
video too...:)
Of the girlfriend :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hondacity
Going to have to try F7f later!
It seems a lot of people are having the AHCI issues. Any word on if they're working on it?
hahaha can I add to all of the request above? Can you please provide where to measure those voltages and I will mod my UD7. I will put something like a Vcheck that we have actually seen in other brands :D
@bassplayer: I never got it to work with WinXP. Win7 doesn't have any problem with it.Quote:
It seems a lot of people are having the AHCI issues. Any word on if they're working on it?
@bartman1973:The review sin022 made does show where the read points are.
Double post........
ooops sorry overlooked that one ...time to mod my board tonight :D
i think intel is working closely with mobo makers right now..Quote:
Originally Posted by bassplayer
:up: :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by bassplayer
This 2500k doesnt seem to be as bad with the hypers as the 2600k was. No issues at 1600c6 but 2133 needs work.
I don't have much issue with 1600 and 6-6-6-18-CR1,only above.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by OC Nub
Btw,what you set in CPU-Z to show Max TDP?
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/4...6618cr132m.png
Oh, I can run 2133 with my hypers just not spi32m. Have to drop down to 1866 for spi32m.
http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/r...EMI/tRFC88.png
ive been using ahci from day 1. working perfectly for me with 4 hdds.Quote:
Originally Posted by bassplayer
F7f is a no go for me. Well, testing wise at least. I can't get into Windows at 54x100. F7e had no troubles at all.
@jackbrennan: Are you able to load WinXP on AHCI mode? I don't have an issue with Win7.
I haven't tried Windows XP to be honest. It's possible there is a conflict with current driver and the chipset.Quote:
Originally Posted by maxxx
Im dont think that I set anything, are you on the same version?Quote:
Originally Posted by stasio
ok i am back, so what BIOS you want me to test the voltages with F7 or F7e or what?
@jack: on IDE mode, WinXP does load. Its just on AHCI. Oh well, not every one would use WinXP unless benching.Quote:
I haven't tried Windows XP to be honest. It's possible there is a conflict with current driver and the chipset.
@sin022: Any chance you can do that on F7e?
f7e of course, because remember F7 doesn't have PLL overvoltage, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by sin0822
We wanted you to see what CPU pll overvoltage does to the actual PLL voltage (shown as 1.8 in the bios) :)
ok yea i will check, but of course i can measure the voltage being inputed into the CPU, i do not have th means to check the voltage actually being applied to the actual phase lock loop, i personally think that voltage can be applied, the board will spit out a voltage, from my earlier testing the CPu pLL was being a bit overvolted at stock, and when increased it increased. People have tried increaseing the CPU pLL instead of using CPU PLL overvotlage without luck.
http://h-2.abload.de/img/ipvo4awe.png
Oh..I see...i Thought PLL voltage had a read point similar to VTT or VDIMM and so on. We were curious what happened to the 1.8 VPLL if overvoltage setting were set to enabled.... :)
Same 1.56.3: :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by OC Nub
Did you use some additional software?
My:
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/8656/20110130103448.png
Your:
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/5...ators2500k.jpg
sin0822,also if can F7f.
maxxx can't get into Windows at 54x100.
They should work closely long time ago.:mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hondacity
On the end,new revision will be released.:shakes:
I just grabbed it from fliphippo I think and unzipped, opened and it was there. I cant think of anything I did.Quote:
Originally Posted by stasio
With F7f, yes, it won't load Windows. Tried increasing some voltages already. RAM is back down to 1600 cas7. It just freezes on the loading part.Quote:
maxxx can't get into Windows at 54x100.
i bet the TDp thing is part of hwmonitor
Got it!Quote:
Originally Posted by OC Nub
Previous 1.56.3 is dated 22.Jan and filehippo CPU-Z 1.56.3 is dated 25.Jan and 4KB bigger.
-add Max TDP
I typed fliphippo :rofl:, sry I hurt my back last week and Im on muscle relaxers and some pain meds.Quote:
Originally Posted by stasio
Never mind bro,thanks for usefull info.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by OC Nub
Well not sure what just happened but I can no longer post my system. I flashed back to F7e from F7 to get CPU PLL Overvoltage option. It worked I rebooted and setup the bios. Then I went to flash the backup bios to F7e it seemed to finish and then the computer shut off. Now it tries to post but instant shut off and then goes into a continuous boot. The computer does not stay on for more than a few seconds. All the fans start spinning up but then shut down and again. Tried clearing the CMOS but nothing will work. Could the backup bios process have caused a problem ?
Did you flash backup bios while overclocked?Quote:
Originally Posted by aver
Nope back at stock speeds. I flashed back to F7e first and then configured all my bios settings (raid and boot order) didn't touch any of the OC settings. Rebooted into the bios backup flash. It asked me to press enter to write. pressed enter it wrote 4MB to the first image then started to write a second time shut off and now it wont start.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostromo
Could try info on page 9 post #222Quote:
Originally Posted by aver
But i think that is with stock backup bios untouched.
To all you guys having ACHI issues, Cant you just install using IDE and registry tweak ACHI once installed then re enable after you enabled it in the registry?????
Thanks for the post.. Tried that about 10x now with no avail.. I wonder wtf happened and if I will have to rma?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostromo
Maybe try to pull all power from board, and pull battery?Quote:
Originally Posted by aver
Hope you get it sorted with no RMA.
hey guys just starting DMM tests, sorry i just installed MOH i have never really played a FPS before since BF2. I am done now.
Flashing backup bios while overclocked can be fatal. Because if something goes wrong with an overclock, it automatically loads the backup BIOS even if everything is fine with the primary bios. And if it can't access the backup BIOS it will loop forever.
Try NINJA Pressing Alt-F12 and keep mashing it, to see if you can get it to boot from the primary BIOS. I know that pressing it 3 times switches from primary to backup (makes backup primary), but you might not be even given a chance to do that if the board won't stay on long enough....
Ya I am not sure whats going on exactly.. It seems like the bios is corrupted and it can't get to the backup or both are corrupted.. System wasn't OC'd as it was a fresh BIOS flash .. I am not sure if the backup process just shuts down or if it prompts you.. For me it just shut down and tried to restart.Quote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
um....I can't remember exactly, maybe someone else can chime in, but when I flashed the primary BIOS, I used the DOS flasher, and it did NOT restart after the flash.Quote:
Originally Posted by aver
When I did alt-12 once to flash the backup BIOS, it DID restart after the flash.
BTW, when you flashed the primary bios, did you flash the backup bios after the VERY FIRST restart?
No ,I first configured all of my base settings in the bios so it booted into Windows then I restarted flashed the new backup right before I started to OC as everyone was pointing to F7e as being the best :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
It still 21 days old so I can return to the retailer which looks like it might be the easiest.. I have the CMOS battery out now and will let it sit for awhile and give it another go..
yea just return it, i think maybe you might have corrupted the backup BIOS, that is why they don't publish how to flash the backup BIOS, you really aren't supposed to.
BTW you have to use a PS2 keyboard to flash backup BIOS, that is how it went for me. There is also a way to short the main BIOS so that the backup BIOS works instead automatically.
It was weird caused it wrote the BIOS to the backup successfully. It then did a second write of the BIOS shut down immediately and then went into the continuous reboot. I must have corrupted the backup bios or for some reason its not able to get far enough to revert form the backup bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by sin0822
Doing some 3d benching with the new chip.
:banana::banana::banana::banana: i flashed by backup BIOS as well, I think I am going to reflash it to F3 LOL> You story scared me, i feel like maybe my backup is waiting to fail on me!
If i want to see how high i can get my BCLK, what voltage it used to gain a higher BCLK?
Well I did successfully flash my backup bios to F6 earlier in the week. I then went to F7e, then to F7, and then back to F7e. That is when attempted to update my backup bios to be F7e and blamo :(Quote:
Originally Posted by sin0822
i managed to get 107.3 on the BCLK. Any higher and the pc locks up. i increased the pll voltage, but it didnt seem to help at all.
Hi,
Sin, were you able to get around to testing the voltages?
i just got home, i had to do Sunday shopping and church. I beat MOH last night, and i have the UD7 out of the case, so i am going to do the tests within the next hour. i already did LLC tests for the UD7 with BIOS F7, they are a page or two back. I will do the LLC testing and all the other votlages within the next hour. Sorry its taking so long.
BTW i was thinking about your problem and how we have to flash those new BIOSes with @BIOS, and not with the BIOS flash, maybe that is the problem, i am going to flash my backup BIOS with F3. I am not risking killing this awesome board.
Jack i found that vcore made the biggest difference for blck, i was able to do 107.5/107.7 set. I took a screen shot, it was with BIOS F6E. I found that increasing system agent, as well as PCH voltage might have helped.
I flashed F7e to my backup and it is working much better than having F3 in backup. Before every freeze or bsod was corrupt bios and then it would flash f3 and then I would have to go flash f7e again. Havent had to flash anything since
Guys I was really thinking getting rib of this board & going back to Asus Max IV but after seeing this "4 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (single @x16, dual @x8, triple @x8, x16, x16", what are they doing going backwards? :yepp:
This my first Gigabite board & I think I'm going to hang in there giving them a chance for a good bios.
I always flash bioses with MS-DOS boot disk. It's never failed me in 10 years of flashing...Quote:
Originally Posted by sin0822
Yeah I flashed f6d to my backup on my UD5, and it never complains about anything corrupt anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eldonko
Only problem is the double post after a hard power off, and the occasional shut down after a windows reboot. But at least it doesn't complain about corruptness.
Last 3-4 BIOS's ,I flash with Q-Flash,no problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
really yea i hard you could flash normally now. Anyways I went and reflashed my backup to BIOS F3, so i flashed F3 to main BIOS, Atl+f12 with ps2keyboard, well it did a "BIOS swap" which was much different than when i first flashed my backup to F6E from F3, so what happened is that it flashed my backup to F3 and flashed my main to F7E, it wrote two BIOS images instead of one, the first time i did it it didn't do this.
Anyways I did LLC anaysis, i have to change my CPu PLL read point on my review, as that is incorrect, its actually the leg of that MOSFET next to the cap.
So here are the results, they are different from F7.
Vcore 1.4v set(DMM/CPU-Z)
LLC NO Idle: 1.382/1.344
LLC NO Load:1.336/1.296
LLC 1 Idle:1.420/1.392
LLC 1 Load:1.409/1.388
LLC 2 Idle:1.458/1.428
LLC 2 Load:1.498/1.452
Conclusion: No LLC isn't that bad but CPU-Z incorrectly reports voltages under load, LLC Level1 is the same as F7 final actually pretty good, LLC level2 is just as scary as F7 final, huge almost 100mv over what is set under load, but only 40mv increase over what it is at idle. I do not think they changed anything from F7, but there HAS BEEN CHANGE to LLC and all voltage since the original BIOSes I am thinking maybe F6X has different LLC, if I remember correctly i tested for my review with F5 or F6X or F3 i cannot remember.
QPI/VTT 1.05 set (DMM only)
QPI LLC no idle:1.081
QPI LLC no Load:1.089
QPI LLC 1 idle:1.080
QPI LLC 1 load:1.094
QPI LLC 2 idle:1.084
QPI LLC 2 load:1.096
Conclusion: They tweaked QPI since I tested it for my review, it is automatically slightly increased. There is correlation with LLC levels as expected.
CPU PLL 1.8 set(DMM ONLY)
PLL disabled:1.870
PLL enabled:1.870
CPU PLL 1.86 set
PLL disabled:1.909
PLL enabled:1.909
CPu PLL 1.7v set
PLL disabled:1.751
PLL enabled:1.751
There is zero correlation between enabling Cpu PLL overvoltage and actual voltage being fed by the board to the CPU, i didn't think there would be, also same overvotlage to CPU PLL as in my initial review. If you wanna read for yourself the read point is same MOSFET as in my pic, just the leg nearest the capacitor, basically your probe will touch the cap.
I hope this helps you guys, i cut my finger pretty badly while loading with IBT, the fan was spinning a lot faster than i thought, i actually think i got blood on the board lol.
Thanks for all the hard work. :up:
I wonder what the Internal CPU PLL Over Voltage setting actually does since it doesnt increase the voltage you were reading. Any idea?
I can push alot more, very stable system.
http://thumb5.webshots.net/t/72/72/9...5IGhfue_th.jpg
I think that it just allow the internal clock generator to work with higher multipliers, maybe it unlocks the PLLs ability to take higher voltage. Like what i am saying is that maybe the pll voltage is fixed, and even if the board pushes 1.89v it will only take 1.8v. Maybe with CPU pLL overvotlage it uses higher voltage? IDK. or unlock its multipliers+ 4-5x.Quote:
Originally Posted by OC Nub
Bah, I had my chip at 1.392 Idle vcore to 1.428 vcore for fully stable in Prime95/OCCT with RAM set at default (1333 9-9-9-24-1t). But anything higher than that, such as my specified stock settings (1600 7-8-7-24-1t), and my Vcore seems to need more, about 1.44-1.45.
I guess that's some what normal? Temps are still fine max is 75 on one core while the rest are 70-73 (though majority is around 65-70)
have you raised qpi/vtt"?
Yeah tried 1.1vQuote:
Originally Posted by sin0822
Shouldnt need more than that I would assume? Only running 2 X 4GB @ DDR-1600 7-8-7-24-1t
What memory you using, looks like G-SkillQuote:
Originally Posted by btdvox
Indeed it is. I keep getting a Clock interrupt on secondary processor BSOD which usually is vcore related but I dont know.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheHardCase
Also I cant find the F7f bios? It won't let me download it (permissions issue). Is anyone else able to?
http://www.mediafire.com/?xv1t9b0odmix7zbQuote:
Originally Posted by btdvox
First forget F7f, F7e is good.Quote:
Originally Posted by btdvox
Not sure what 8GB you have but mine is F3-12800CL7D-8GBXH
It don't like 1T at 1600, it loves 1866 @ 8-9-8-24 1T 1.66v or once you get computer stable 2133 @ 9-10-9-24 @ 1T for 8GB it's amazing...
Thanks for the test feedback, sin. Hopefully Ud5 is similar....
Remember that DES2 overvolt problem i was talking about a few pages back. Well i got a reply from gigabyte who just said AIDA 64 doesn't report the right voltage (it didn't in previous versions)
anyhow here is a link to a post i made earlier today with a Fraps video of DES 2 increasing my voltage to 1.59.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=266044
I thought you guys might be interesed. I've also sent the video off to Gigabyte so i'll let you know what they say.
how many are you are going to RMA your boards?
I'm going to wait a day or two and see if Gigabyte comes out with an announcement. If they do then i'll return it.Quote:
Originally Posted by sin0822
I get mine tommorrow give me a chance to try and break it,if i cant in a two or three weeks time its staying.
Does anyone see something?
First benchdisk was done 1 week ago & 2nd just done.
I use all 4 sata ports.
performanxe should go down as you fill up the drive. but you can still rma the board if you want. the only thing i hate is that the rma will most likely take weeks or even longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheHardCase
Look at the difference, it's huge.
Started. Overtime ehh? 1 Week & it's aready started.
Re: Intel Corporation has discovered a design issue in a recently released support chip, the Intel® 6 Series, code-named Cougar Point, and has implemented a silicon fix. In some cases, the Serial-ATA (SATA) ports within the chipsets may degrade over time, potentially impacting the performance or functionality of SATA-linked devices such as hard disk drives and DVD-drives
why not ghost that drive and then reinstall it from scratch again and retest and see what happens,
All 3 drives are Raid 0Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
On sata 1,2,3
Also I have not installed anything from when I did the first bench.
Uhh,my DVD drive disappear or letter gone a few times.:yepp:
just try it man
Ok give me time I'll reformat dinos just for you bro. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
:up::up:
My UD7 and I2600k are arriving tomorrow from the egg to a friends house on the US, im on a loop deciding what to do as ones it gets to South America i will have no chances to RMA...shoul i reject the order ?
thanks for the help guys
Sergio
I would send the board back if you cant RMA from your country.
thanks man :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Eldonko
Guess it went up, faster then the first install.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
correct my if im wrong guys
Chipset:
NOT AFFECTED
1) 2 x SATA 6Gb/s connectors (SATA3_0, SATA3_1) supporting up to 2 SATA 6Gb/s devices
(AFFECTED)
2) 4 x SATA 3Gb/s connectors (SATA2_2~SATA2_5) supporting up to 4 SATA 3Gb/s devices
3.Support for SATA RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 5, and RAID 10
NOT AFFECTED
3) 2 x Marvell 88SE9128 chips:
3.1) 2 x SATA 6Gb/s connectors (GSATA3_6, GSATA3_7) supporting up to 2 SATA 6Gb/s devices
3.2) 2.Support for SATA RAID 0 and RAID 1
2 x eSATA 6Gb/s connectors (eSATA/USB Combo) on the back panel supporting up to 2 SATA 6Gb/s devices
Support for SATA RAID 0 and RAID 1
so im my case that i use SSD as boot and 3 x HDD RAID0 can i do this with the avaiable options ? guess 4 sata ports not affected but dunno if i can combine Marvell with the others...
as per my PM
These are running off a second Marvel SATA6 controller so they have nothing to do with this issue Intel announced todayQuote:
3.2) 2.Support for SATA RAID 0 and RAID 1
2 x eSATA 6Gb/s connectors (eSATA/USB Combo) on the back panel supporting up to 2 SATA 6Gb/s devices
Support for SATA RAID 0 and RAID 1
yup just as I thoughtQuote:
Originally Posted by TheHardCase