lo Micha good clocks mate :)
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lo Micha good clocks mate :)
right then.
i have tried everything, still no joy:down:
even flashed to 1102 bios and tried that ,no joy back on 1303 now.
could it be the balistic memory holding me back? i dont seem to be able to get over the 3.0ghz mark.
i got to 3.1, but i could not get it stable running occt for just a few minutes failed,
i tried upping the vcore and the 1.2 to try and compensate, but it would not run occt.
do you think i will have a better chance of getting to 3.4 with different memory and maybe a different cooler,if so could you please suggest which memory i should buy ,and what air cooler would you suggest.
thanks for all your time and effort. i am new to all this overclocking ,but i do want to learn, i have spent over 2 weeks trying to get to the 3.4 mark, i just need some guidence from the pros.
i have tried numerous settings (other peoples templates) with no joy,the only thing different in my setup is the memory and cooler?
regards
Nice man! Please post your BIOS settings :D
If you run it at x9 and lower the FSB to get the same processor frequency you can cut the NB voltage if it's pushed and improve the NB timing margins. And if you're on the stock cooling for the NB the lower the better. Whether you detect a real world performance hit from a lower FSB will depend on what you're doing. I can't discern any difference at all but I'm running a FreeBSD desktop on my Striker instead of FPSs. YMMVQuote:
Originally Posted by Dudeguy
:) thanks for the info.Quote:
Originally Posted by howard
I've been working a bit around ... and finally at 9x, and 1345 (something near that... as 1333 is a fsb hole) it working flawelessly, and i've putted the voltage (except vcore) to auto , so I guess the MB by default will not super duper overclock it...
Everest say :
VCore : 1.4
FSB VTT : 1.36
NBC : 1.33
SBC : 1.52
guess it's fine, i've got a big fan blowing the mb straight (so no hot issue) :)
but thanks for the reply :) appreciated :D
Well I saw you are stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by [VII]
I do not know your settings yet so please have a look at the following and give us your suggestions.
NB and mosfets cooling is very important.Code:AI Tuning: Manual
Nvidia GPU Ex: Disabled
LinkBoost: No linkboost option here. Use 1303 BIOS
CPU Multi 9
FSB - Memory Clock Mode: Unlinked
x FSB - Memory Raio: N/A
FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1400
Actual FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1400
MEM (DDR), Mhz: 900
Actual MEM (DDR), Mhz: 900
Vcore Voltage:1.55 up to 1.6
Memory Voltage:2.2 Actual 2.25 Never use auto with SLI mem (gives 2.35)
1.2v HT Voltage:1.5 or less better use auto here.
NB Core Voltage:1.45 exactly and never change this no matter what. Actual 1.52.
SB Core Voltage:1.5 or auto
CPU VTT Voltage:1.45 or even more
DDRII Controller Ref Voltage: +10
DDRII Channel A Ref Voltage: +10
DDRII Channel B Ref Voltage: +10
tCL (CAS Latency): auto
tRCD: auto
tRP: auto
tRAS: auto
Command Per Clock (CMD): 2
Advance Memory Settings
tRRD: AUTO
tRC: AUTO
tWR: AUTO
tWTR: AUTO
tREF: AUTO
tRD: AUTO
tRFC: AUTO
Async Latency: AUTO
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Internal Thermal Control: Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E): Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled security
Virtualization Technology: Enabled makes no O/C difference
Enhanced Intel Speedstep Tech: Disabled
LDT Frequency: 5x
PCIEX16_1 Frequency (Mhz): 100
PCIEX16_2 Frequency (Mhz): 100
PCIEX16_3 Frequency (Mhz): 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, Mhz: Auto defaults at 200
Sometimes lower and auto settings are better.
Better use SLI expert for your memory timings or try other dimms.
This mobo needs SLI dimms even if you do not enable SLI memory.
Check your dimms once every time you think you change your OC settings, before entering Windows.
Memtest DOES NOT work with Striker.
Never use it.
Use the memory test that comes on a Vista DVD.
You get access by pressing tab after post booting from a Vista DVD or any disk with a Vista installation.
You only need two passes to check your dimms.
He was already stable Marios a few post ahead (403), but thx for ya input :) also note he's runnign a quad which needs a different setup then the dual cores....
some stuff :
My Striker also ran fine with non SLI ram (Gskill PC6400Hz , same with PC6400PK, PC8000HZ all non SLI) only ram that gave me weird beahviour where the OCZ PC8500 SLI ones lol
I always disabled SLI support for the ram as it gave more probs then it should solve ( I did this from 0402 on but never tried enabling it afterwards ) according some users... Also the Striker ran usually better with the ram undervolted then running it at the settings prescribed by the manufacturer...
Memtest (DOS) ran fine with me though, dunno where that comes from, you referring to the winblows version ?
I saw VII is stable and I saw his great mobo with water everywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
In my case after one year with my Striker, having checked lots of dimms I realized that memtest doesn't work.
I wrote it on another forum 6 months ago.
Now there is an ASUS statement about this problem on ASUS frequently asked questions.
So please try the memory test that comes with Vista DVD.
You do not need to install Vista.
Only boot from a Vista DVD.
This is for everyone
Just check it yourself.
Overclock your mobo in a way that boots to BIOS but you are unstable in Windows XP or Vista, or you get a restart when you try to enter Windows.
Now run the bootable version of memtest for a while.
You are most probably not going to get any errors.
Memtest only gives errors in case your dimms have serious problems.
Now boot from a Vista installation DVD and press tab tab tab tab until you get a black screen with two options.
The second one is the memory test.
Just run this once or twice, as is without any changes and see what you get.
This is a nice and quick tip to check our overclocking before we enter windows.
Memory errors may harm our installation and on the other hand, it is the only case where pressing the power button for 4 seconds does not recover our BIOS.
I found this to be a great overclocking tool.
Of course there are dimms without EPP that work OK.
Though I think EPP dimms work better with Striker.
Two more suggestions.
Stick with 1.45v NB and DDR2@900MHz.
There are exceptions though like extreme cooling or FSB:MEM=1:1 (sync).
Well K thx for the tip , my post wasn't intented to contradict your findings , just another point of view, only ram that behaved erratically where the Corsairs 6400C4, which sadly many many users owned at that time due to Corsairs well known reputation.
But as a non Vista User I have to rely on something before I enter windows after setting up an OC... and I still use memtest and goldmemory from the hirens boot cd (which I always keep up to date... till now no corrupt installs yet ( crossed fingers )
And for quads indeed the it's best to stick with 1:1, sadly we recommend many settings to other users but not all mobo's can run the same setups many many others can , even with identical hardware... 680i is a spooky chipset to me...
@leeghoofd
could it be the balistic memory holding me back? i dont seem to be able to get over the 3.0ghz mark.
i got to 3.1, but i could not get it stable running occt for just a few minutes failed,
i tried upping the vcore and the 1.2 to try and compensate, but it would not run occt.
do you think i will have a better chance of getting to 3.4 with different memory and maybe a different cooler,if so could you please suggest which memory i should buy ,and what air cooler would you suggest.
thanks for all your time and effort. i am new to all this overclocking ,but i do want to learn, i have spent over 2 weeks trying to get to the 3.4 mark, i just need some guidence from the pros.
i have tried numerous settings (other peoples templates) with no joy,the only thing different in my setup is the memory and cooler?
regards
Do you have a B3 or a G0 stepping quad?Quote:
Originally Posted by didineedthis
I believe you cannot expect great overclocking from B3 stepping quads on Striker Extreme.
G0 according to his sig!Quote:
Originally Posted by Marios
hi thanks for your response,Quote:
Originally Posted by Marios
i have the go stepping quad my set up is in my signature,
if it is my memory ?.could you suggest a decent memory to get.
regards
i got my striker yesterday..:banana::banana::banana::banana:ing board came with 1305 installed..and it wont work wit my corsairs pc8500, i get the test mem error..it just freezes during bios splash screen, now i have to get a cheap stick of non epp memory to boot the system and flash back to 1303, thank u asus!!
Those dimms are great for your Striker.Quote:
Originally Posted by gastoncapo
SLI is not enabled by default, so EPP is not your problem.
Just use one dimm to boot and then the other one.
Sometimes Strikers do not boot easily the very first time.
You need to know a few things.
Check how to clear CMOS your BIOS.
Boot to BIOS with the clear CMOS button pressed down and the jumper on pins 2-3, as if you want to clear cmos.
This tip works every time.
Do not save anything when in BIOS.
Just power off, replace the CCMOS jumper on 1-2, boot again in BIOS and keep 1305.
You may flash any BIOS you want later on.
Do not enable memory SLI, unless you know this mobo.
Later on you should enable it, because you overclock better and you get better bench results with SLI enabled.
Though you need to lower a few volts from the defaults (NB vdimm), and do not try to overclock your memory @1200MHz right away.
Check your dimms with Vista memory test (have a look at my previous post) @900MHz 2.1-2.2v and NB @1.45v.
Your dimms are among the best I've seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by didineedthis
Unless they give errors on vista memory test, after two passes, @vdimm 2.2v, NB@ 1.45v, @900MHz, do not change them.
You have a very good rig.
Sometimes I've seen rigs that have a metal backplate to support the CPU cooler.
This metal plate might push the pins that come out of the mosfets and destroy your mobo.
So please check your rig.
I cut these pins short on the back of the mobo, so they do not touch the supporting metal backplate.
Use plastic washers between the metal plate and the mobo.
Another problem with those big CPU coolers is that they do not provide good airflow on the NB and the mosfets.
You need to find a way to cool them efficiently.
A few tips. Use paste on NB and washers on the back of the mobo to get a tight contact between the cooler and the NB. Also use three ASUS fans on all NB and the two mosfet coolers.
Use water cooling like [VII] did.
His rig is amazing :up:
The best I've ever seen in my life.
@marios
thank you for your prompt reply.
i have managed to over clock to 3.262
1450 (725) 9x but it is unstable:down: and the system keeps restarting its self, can you have a look at my settings below and see if you can suggest anything to get it stable.
my temps were mid 30s idle but my motherboard was around 43?
AI Tuning: Manual
Nvidia GPU Ex: Disabled
LinkBoost: No linkboost option here. Use 1303 BIOS
CPU Multi 9
FSB - Memory Clock Mode: Unlinked
x FSB - Memory Raio: N/A
FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1450
Actual FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1450
MEM (DDR), Mhz: 725
Actual MEM (DDR), Mhz: 725
Vcore Voltage:1.38125
Memory Voltage:2.0
1.2v HT Voltage:1.55
NB Core Voltage:1.45
SB Core Voltage: auto
CPU VTT Voltage:1.40 or even more
DDRII Controller Ref Voltage:
DDRII Channel A Ref Voltage:
DDRII Channel B Ref Voltage:
tCL (CAS Latency): 4
tRCD: 4
tRP: 4
tRAS: 12
Command Per Clock (CMD): 2
Advance Memory Settings
tRRD: AUTO
tRC: AUTO
tWR: AUTO
tWTR: AUTO
tREF: AUTO
tRD: AUTO
tRFC: AUTO
Async Latency: AUTO
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Internal Thermal Control: Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E): Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled security
Virtualization Technology: disabled
Enhanced Intel Speedstep Tech: Disabled
LDT Frequency: 5x
PCIEX16_1 Frequency (Mhz): 100
PCIEX16_2 Frequency (Mhz): 100
PCIEX16_3 Frequency (Mhz): 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, Mhz: Auto defaults at 200
regards
didineedthis
@didineedthis
the D9's need a bit more voltage on this board, try bumping your volt on the vdimm to 2.1-2.15.
Also your Vcore is low for this board with the droop and drop this board has. Try bumping your vcore some as well. SB core needs about 1.6-1.65 for stability in my experience with 680i also.
On top of that you try 415 or 425FSB ( 8x for the CPU) 830 or 850 for the ram ( try to run in sync ) and if needed drop timings to 5-5-5-15 2T , disable legacy USB and lock SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, Mhz: 200 ( not auto )
Most users have to set 1.55 in bios to get 1.42 - 1.45 when under load for the CPU... plz do so as you seem to insist on keeping ya VCore so incredibly low set in the bios which refers to 1.28 or so when under load, fine for 3ghz but for higher it will require more...
Also most users run into trouble when reaching 360 and more FSB as the holes become more and more apparent... go straight for 415 or 425FSB...
Some users on a german forum site have had good succes with only Vcore, ram and SB set manually, rest on auto though sadly not all boards respond as good as Turricane3's...
Do you have added cooling mate for the NB and co ? (and not those crappy Asus fans they deliver in the box ) plz do so before continuing to OC... the NB heats up the heatpipe ; which results in more heat for the SB and PWM, reducing stability big time...
thanks for your replys. i think you are right on Leeghoofd.
i need better cooling before i will be able to get a stable clock over 3ghz.
i am on air cooling, there are fins over the northbridge, how would i cool the nb? obviously a fan of some sort ,because i do not want to go on water.
could you sudgest some cooling for the nb and sb ?and how i would go about installing them.
i am pretty sure once i have sorted the cooling for the nb-sb i will be able to get a stable overclock.
once again thanks for all your help
regards
didineedthis
Well some repleaced the PWM's via thermalright HR09 coolers and the NB and SB with Thermaltake Spirit coolers...
I placed a fan shroud so I could place some fans over the NB and PWM are... though not all CPU coolers allow this
3rd option is to place a Sidefan ( preferably 120mm or bigger) in the case sidepanel being centered on the NB....
I wasn't as happy as I'd hoped I'd be with the 09s. At least one of the FETs is completely uncovered with the 09 (top row, one of the ends, don't remember which end), and as Thermalright admits on their page the solution even for the other FETs doesn't and can't provide more than minimal contact with the FETs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
(It's possible to ram some extra foam under one end of the 09's expansion clamp to try to get minimal contact between the completely uncovered FET and the heat sink, I have no idea how well it worked but don't expect it did much other than insulate the FET from any air cooling it might have had, and I abandoned that approach when I changed CPU coolers)
I pulled the 09s and replaced them with adhesived-on swifttech BGA heat sinks. They run warm so they work, and everyone gets cooled.
An HR-05 and an HR-05SLI round out the chipset cooling. YMMV of course...
[QUOTE=Leeghoofd;2597253]Well some repleaced the PWM's via thermalright HR09 coolers and the NB and SB with Thermaltake Spirit coolers...
@leeghoofd
is this what i am after mate http://www.thermalright.com/where_default.htm
and i will need 2 of these right http://www.ciao.co.uk/Thermaltake_Te...#productdetail
would you sudgest getting rid of the artic freezer, if so which air cooler is the best mate.
regards
didineedthis
AI Tuning: ManualQuote:
Originally Posted by didineedthis
Nvidia GPU Ex: Disabled
LinkBoost: No linkboost option here. Use 1303 BIOS
CPU Multi 9
FSB - Memory Clock Mode: Unlinked
x FSB - Memory Raio: N/A
FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1450
Actual FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1450
MEM (DDR), Mhz: 900
Actual MEM (DDR), Mhz: 900
Vcore Voltage:1.55 Start at 1.55 and try lower volts after success.
Memory Voltage:2.15
1.2v HT Voltage:Auto
NB Core Voltage:1.45
SB Core Voltage: auto
CPU VTT Voltage: auto
DDRII Controller Ref Voltage: +10 or auto
DDRII Channel A Ref Voltage: +10 or auto
DDRII Channel B Ref Voltage: +10 or auto
tCL (CAS Latency):
tRCD: AUTO
tRP: AUTO
tRAS: AUTO
Command Per Clock (CMD): AUTO
Advance Memory Settings
tRRD: AUTO
tRC: AUTO
tWR: AUTO
tWTR: AUTO
tREF: AUTO
tRD: AUTO
tRFC: AUTO
Async Latency: AUTO
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Internal Thermal Control: Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E): Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled security
Virtualization Technology: Enabled makes no OC diffenerce
Enhanced Intel Speedstep Tech: Disabled
LDT Frequency: 5x
PCIEX16_1 Frequency (Mhz): 100
PCIEX16_2 Frequency (Mhz): 100
PCIEX16_3 Frequency (Mhz): 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, Mhz: Auto defaults at 200
SLI mem disabled
Did you check your dimms with a bootable vista dvd ?
No large fan can replace a small fan on top of each cooler (NB, and two mosfets)
Hello,
I also have a Striker Extreme. I don't like this board, but here are my results.
450FSB stable on C2Q and 1303 BIOS.
I have an aircooled rig, so this was far as I could push it.
3DMARK06 - 14865
WIN VISTA
QX6700 @ 3.6GHz / 450FSB
Striker Extreme
DDR2 @ 420MHz 3-3-3-2-1T
Single XFX 8800 Ultra @ 710 / 1150
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4005345
Everest CPUID
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6...stcpuidvb9.jpg
Everest MEM
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/4...restmemyl4.jpg
Super PI 1M
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/5482/superpion8.jpg
My rig
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/6231/seap1.jpg
Enermax Galaxy 1000W
QX6700
Striker Extreme
2x 1GB Corsair Dominator 6400 C3DF
1x XFX 8800 Ultra Extreme Edition
1x WD Raptor-X 150GB
Creative X-FI Fatal1ty
[]'s
Simps
@simps
whats the coolers you are using mate
cpu,nb/sb looks very impressive. how have you mounted the fan on the northbridge, without taking the finf off?
also whats the box with the 3 fans in .
fine bit of kit
regards
didineedthis
thanks for your sugestions,Quote:
Originally Posted by Marios
i ran the vista dvd no errors there.
i tried these settings mate, and i still have the problem of the computer restarting.
blue screen appears now and again after reboot.
i think it would be best to get my cooling sorted out, before i try to go any further, as i am sure this is causing the problems and holding me back.
if i get the cooling sorted ? at least i have a solid platform to work off. and we can remove the cooling from the equasion then.
i just need to know which is the best air cooler to get? and the best cooling for nb/sb ? as you stated a large fan is not as good as a fan directly above the nb/sb.
regards
didineedthis
what size power supply are you using? it could be that it doesnt have enough power and thats what is causing stability problems and forcing the computer to reboot. just a suggestion :)
Striker Extreme Bios 1401
How are people liking this bios now? Anyone else tried it yet?
hi , thanks for your reply , i am using a 650 watt psu.Quote:
Originally Posted by andymg350
regards
didineedthis
I just ordered a Q6700 as everyone knows is 2.66 Gh GO Quad with a 10x multi (to replace the X6800 I am selling).
My question is given the Striker's features (I just bought it new), will I be able to easily hit 10x360 stable on air?
I have a thermalright ultra 120e with a silverstone FM121 fan so I,m not too concerned about cpu temps but NB temps concern me.
Is 3.6 feasible as mentioned above or will I have challenges reaching it?
Thanks
Well if ya striker does 360Mhz you will be fine, if not you will have to go the 9 multi way, some had succes with 415mhz FSB and 830mhz ram then, my boards works with 425FSB and 850 on the ram, mine never worked with 450FSB with 900mhz ram couldn't get that one stable at all...
Good luck mate keep us posted what gives, you can try 1305 bios but most peeps had less OC's with 1305 and reverted back to 1303 or 1301...
1305 worked crap with my E6600 though was pretty fine with the E6850...
I have one question I read there are Q6700 GO's out too ? or did I misread that ?
Yes the Q6700 is a GO (all of the Q6700 are GO steppings) and is available. Its the same as the new Q6600 except the 10x multi. Ever since the 680i boards have issues with Quads in general, I figured it would be easier to get 10x360 than 9x400 to get to my planned 3.6.
Has anyone tried the 1401 beta yet with a quad? I have downloaded it but not flashed it yet (won;t have my quad until friday regardless).
My ram runs fine at 1066 although I typically run it at lower speed tighter timings for better speed.
well for a start change your bios from 1305 to 1303, 1301 or if your feeling adventureous (spelling) try the 1401 bios. second i dont understand why you paid the extra for the Q6700 when the Q6600 performs just as well and is able to reach some of the highest overclocks around.
If your NB temps concern you during overclocking you could always buy an aftermarket passive cooler like thermalright ones or fix a small 40mm fan on top of the original passive cooler, its surprising how much of a difference a small fan can make.
I have a pair of thermaltake extreme spirit II's that I used on the nb and sb of my asus p5n32-e. also with the p5n32-e, the highest fsb I could get with a q6600 was about 360. 360x9. Thats only 3.2 ghz. So I figured with the striker, I could hit 10x360 (which is what I;m looking for) with a higher default multi.
Also I sold my X6800 for what it will cost me for a Q6700 so I broke even. Its not like I need anything else right now.
I sure glad you guys have had luck ocing a quad on your striker boards. Because I have no success..Went back to my E6850. Because I could oc the quad to make up the difference of my OCed 6850...Ive tried every bios setting in this thread to with no success..Chip has been tested on a P5K Dlx to 3.6g...
Is it true that some striker boards just dont like the quads....
Not sure about specific strikers not liking quads but they do have issues with 4gb ram and overclocking with a quad
Why do you say that, i had no problem with 4x1Gb or 2x2GB and clocking a quad, all the bios settings I posted in this thread were with 4GB ramQuote:
Originally Posted by Robilar
you got the latest 1401 Linflas 28/1107 build ? I only got the 26/11 edition and the QX9650 is ordered... it would be nice to test it on the Striker if my friend will allow me ( as he bought me board )
No, I will wait a bit until it is out, as I am happy with things on my rig ATM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
I have been pondering finally pulling the trigger on an EE chip, have never felt they were worth the money, but now with the low multi high FSB on all the other Yorkie's seem the only option for the 4.5GHZ range. I have moved to Oregon in the last 6 months, and know a few guys at intel so get the chips for 1/2 of MSRP, so may have my contact get me one after the holidays.
If you ever sale your striker PM me I will buy it ...Quote:
Originally Posted by linflas
Will do, I actually have the one board, but 2 full retail kits, all the accessories and such, sound card, fans, cables, etc...Quote:
Originally Posted by gmod
hi guys, im having big troubles trying to overclock my q6600 g0, i cant overclock it for :banana::banana::banana::banana:!! im beginning to think its because of my 4 gigs setup, check my sig for system specs.
everything is at stock!
Maybe I'm missing something here and you guys are just trying for the hell of it... but... didn't you see the threads about yorkfield not working in a 680i? Long story short, doesnt work. Erratic behavior and/or locked in to low multi. ES samples worked, but retail do not, apparently. Only wolfdale (dual core) 45nm will work.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcoffey
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=167216
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=166762
Fantastic! Now I can sleep tonight! :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by mcoffey
Just to pu my 2 cents in. I have EVGA 680i and just finished tying to use a q6600 GO that is supposed to overclock nicely. Well it does NOT on my EVGA. The best I could get was 2700 and temps are NOT a proplem. Even tried 1.60 Vcore... I think its a chipset proplem.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Badge56
i think i got the same problem with my striker, it only works on stock with my q6600 g0, even if i raise the volts..or try whatever settings..it wont go up! not even 1333..NADA..i guess ill have to rma the board and get a x38 to overclock this :banana::banana::banana::banana:.
I have manage to get my striker to 3.2 on 1.5 volts on the sriker. This is all on crappy thermaltake watercooling. I am going to be cooling the chipset with thermaltake items and the cpu with new watercooling setup so I will post my results soon.
you got wich build of 1401 there are 5 circulating mate... I don't have the latest sadly and my QX9650 is still not here...Quote:
Originally Posted by mcoffey
Hipro5 has a RETAIL yorkfield and it works fine at stock clocks according to him.... zo ZeroOne the Striker might have the advantage here over the reference boards...
Here's my pm to him lads :
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Lo there sir Hipro5, is there any chance to get 1401 bios build 28/11, I have seem to have the 26/11 edition and my QX9650 should be here next week...just want to know if it will run at stock , will wait for the final unlocked bios ( according pmp soon )
If not I'll have to wait final (beta bios)
Anyway thx in advance
ps :
For us Euros beat them 6ghz benchies !!!
Yes it works BUT ONLY stock....
Hi Everybody,guess this is my first post on XS.
Last week I got a Striker Extreme as getting 1st on a competition and actually got it now.So Usually without doing something bad I read the forums on XS.:D
I'm noob-ish on Intel OCing since this is my first Intel since day 1 in 2000.(Miss AMD so much)
I have decided to use my existing rig except for CPU+RAM+Cooler.
I have already got 2 x 2GB OCZ SLi Ready edition PC6400 RAM kit.(Got it for $110 with a $30 rebate :D, Which I cant resist)[WARNING-OCZ forums say these RAMS will NOT boot more than 1400 FSB what-so-ever,so limited OCing]
I'm planning to get a Q6600 GO and a Zalman CNPS 9700 LED.
Now I have read about the VDroop pencil mod,linflas magic settings,1303 BIOS etc. and about 60 pages of XS threads with Striker and Q6600.(Still reading and saving )
I need following help from you guys if you are willing to help me.(I feel you will)
Need to find the 1303 BIOS for striker Extreme.The FTP ASUS link was a no no.
I live in Sri Lanka where there aint Quads and things.Have to import from LA,CA,USA.So can anybody tell me a e-reselller or a reseller in LA who sells Q6600 G0 or how to identify them B3 or G0?
I feel like Thermalright ultra 120 extreme is better than Zalman CNPS 9700 LED and I noted that I have to buy a fan separately for that.I'm on a tight budget now so money is a problem too.Anyway since it cooles 3~5 C more,I hope to stick with Zalman.Is it good idea?Can anyone tell me who is a good reseller other than newegg to buy one of these coolers for cheap?
Any help on these things will be greately appreciated by me,a humble noob.
http://users.pandora.be/OAP/Striker/SE1303.zip
QO Q6600 will have SLACR code mate , I think it's rare still find a B3 in the USA at the big online shops
Also as a cooler I kindda like the Xigmatek 120mm version ( look alike of the Thermalright Ultra 120 or eXtreme) but with a fan included at almost half the price of the thermalright plus fan... And it's a pretty good performer too....
http://www.xigmatek.com/product/air-hdts1283.php#3
Thank you very much for the BIOS and the help.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
I just asked about the Q6600 B3/G0 problem coz one of my friends imported a one,month ago bought from new egg had the B3 revision(I definitely saw SL9UM not SLACR)So I was wondering of it.BTW I saw clubIT.com sells exactly G0 s.
Thanks once again FYI.I'll check with the cooler.
To Leeghoofd
Sir I checked with the cooler,and as I read It performs like 4 c higher than a Ultra 120 extreme.Also I would just have to lap the base If I buy it(HDT sux IMHO).But unfortunately I wasn't able to find a reseller of it. :S
Could you please give us your settings on how you got to 1900? That would be so sweet :)Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
-Stigma
[QUOTE=Leeghoofd;2611177]http://users.pandora.be/OAP/Striker/SE1303.zip
QO Q6600 will have SLACR code mate , I think it's rare still find a B3 in the USA at the big online shops
@zcexve
if you want the go slacr mate you can get one from here
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/131823
its in the uk though, this is were i got mine from and it is defenetly the go
regards
can the ASUS P5N32-E SLI oce quads like the striker?
Any progress with your QX9650?Quote:
Originally Posted by mcoffey
Did you check with 1401 BIOS?
The BIOS is OK on my E6700 so give it a chance.
Leeghoofd has been helping me out so I thought I'd post some of the results here
setup:
Striker Extreme (1303)
core 2 quad Q6600 batch# L727B407 pack date 11/08/07
4gig Corsair TWIN2x2048-6400C 800mhz DDR2 (4-4-4-12 2.1v)
Asus en8800gtx (single im poor :( )
2x WD raptors (150 gig)
X-fi Fatality
CoolerMaster 850 SLI ready p-sup
The CPU is cooled by the Zalman Resorator (liquid) The rest of the systme is on air
9*333.3 = 3000mhz
FSB - Memory Clock Mode: Unlinked
x FSB - Memory Raio: N/A
FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1333
Actual FSB (QDR), Mhz: 333
MEM (DDR), Mhz: 800
Actual MEM (DDR), Mhz: 800
Vcore Voltage: 1.55
Memory Voltage:2.1
1.2v HT Voltage:1.6
NB Core Voltage:1.45
SB Core Voltage:1.55
CPU VTT Voltage:1.45
DDRII Controller Ref Voltage:AUTO
DDRII Channel A Ref Voltage:AUTO
DDRII Channel B Ref Voltage:AUTO
tCL (CAS Latency): 4
tRCD: 4
tRP: 4
tRAS: 12
Command Per Clock (CMD): 2 clock (2T)
even 1 tick above that and the system wont boot past the windows logo
I've tried the linflas voltages from earlier in this thread too. I played with 8 and 9 multipliers as well as looser mem timings nothing seems to work
333FSB can be done with less voltages too mate on the chipset... did you try the other settings with 2 sticks just to give it a shot ? lower voltage for the ram ( have you tried 2.0 volts ? ) Also does your CPU need +/- 1.4 volts for 3ghz ? Seems a bit high, can you tell us your VOD plz ( read out by coretemp )
For 333FSb this worked fine for me
1.2v HT Voltage:1.45
NB Core Voltage:1.40
SB Core Voltage:1.50
CPU VTT Voltage:1.40
With my settings above coretemp reads VID = 1.2375 ill try to lower the voltages to your settings here ill post resultsQuote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Edit:
Boots fine with the lower voltages you mentioned above ill post later if it crashes
VID in CoreTemp is NOT the vCore!!!! Use a proggy like Everest to read the vCore! VID in CoreTemp is the INTEL set vCore your particuar CPU needs to operate 100% stable @ stock clocks! Each CPU is set independantly by INTEL, based on how it performs itself!Quote:
Originally Posted by GreyPaws
Yeagh, I'm one of those guys who can't get his Q6600 up above 3.0 (333x9) either. I let go on an AWESOME Xeon that could hit 3600 on this board, and now i'm certianly regretting it - being a gamer. I've got an sli setup with the 8800gtx and have 4GB of OCZ ram installed. I've even tried using a 2GB set of Corsair Dominator and still can't get past the 333 hump.
Kup listed some FSB holes "from 400-424, then from about 450-474" with a hint at the lower FSB holes. Woudl those just happen to start at 334?
I don't have another board to test this Q6600 on, but I don't think it's a stellar overclocker like some people got. I've tried every setting recommended here for Q6600, and 333x9 is ALL I can get. So I've been thinking about going back to a Dual core, just to get some Mhz back.
Along those lines, you folks are saying that the Striker Extreme isn't overclocking a 1333 FSB chip worth a crap?
Yeah, I do believe they start around there too. Basically where a strap change comes into effect, you'll find a hole for about 25MHz (in my finding).
Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
I just asked him that to get a knowledge of his VID as he used 1.45 ( 1.55 set in bios) volts to run his Q6600 at 3ghz, it will prolly do that on his VID voltage, so he can set a lower value for CPU Vcore to see if it remains stable, which he is testing right now... and I told him to lower voltage settings too for his mobo as those were good ( for me) to run 425FSB and he only can get 333FSB stable ( bummer )
But thx for the warning :)
My striker did 445FSB with the E6850 for 4ghz stablke operation though I needed to limit the ram speed to 1000Mhz, 1066Mhz speed didn't work for me while it did nicely with the e6600...Quote:
Originally Posted by Khaotic
Some weird stuff going on there...
I think the Striker has problems with the G0 core, not just the Quads. My E6600 could pull just shy of 500MHz FSB but would not do more than 425MHz FSB with the E6850...
I've seen that almost all of the striker setups with quads are using the Q6600. I just got my Q6700 in and am hoping to be able to run 10x360 stable on air.
My question is with the higher default multi (10x for my chip as opposed to 9x with the Q6600), will it be easier to get a stable 360 FSB state with the striker and my quad?
Robilar,
I sure hope so, but from what i'm seeing - probably not. I've got a Striker Setup that has pretty much turned my hobby into total frustration. Random lock-up and blue screens and with my shiny new G0 Q6600 333 is the highest FSB i've been able to hit.
What I would like to see is a chart decvised to show us what/where these holes are. Someone mentioned where the strap changes. Well, exactly how do we figure that out? I'm not hardware DUMB, but i'm not a chipset scientist either.
In the beginning i heard that the 680i doesn't like CPUs with 4MB of cache. So Conroe's were doing worse than Allendales. Now, with new BIOS' the Conroe's are doing OK but now the Quad Cores are sucking. Well, I tried the 1401 that someone linked to from this thread.
It didn't let my Quad Core POST at 333x9. So now i'm back to 1303.
I've thought about getting a brand new E6400 and throwing it on my Striker Extreme (bought WAY back when they were still new) and seeing what it can do. In face, give me some feedback, what do you folks think an Allendale E6400 would do on this board?
I can hit 500 fsb with my dual core on air so you can assume that 500 fsb is feasible (at a 7x multi
The issues are with quad cores not with dualQuote:
Originally Posted by Robilar
How high is you Motherboard temperature guys?
(measured by Asus Probe II)
Mine is at stock 34 celcius on watercooling.
Is that normal?
Yes but Khaotic asked what he could do with an E6400,, a dual core...Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLeO
I lowered the voltages on everything and still fine at 3.0 Everest says my vcore is 1.34 actual on load I think I can go lower
What you got set in Bios mate . seeing ya VID is only 1.25 or such you can try to set 1.3250 in bios wil drop to 1.275 or such under full load...Quote:
Originally Posted by GreyPaws
Glad you got it stable mate... :up:
I got my PC running, so I'm overclocking too.
I've tried the 3.8 settings from Linflas, but it won't boot :(
Tried almost every other setting here posted, also just a black screen.
So I almost gave up, but tried one last thing.
Everything on auto, but:
FSB: 1800
MP: 8
Memory: 900
CoreVoltage: 1.55
And wtf?! it boots!!! \0/
Running Prime95 right now.
(running Vista 64bit, it sucks to press F8 each time I boot, so I can use Core Temp :S)
---- Update -----
Damn, after 17 minutes of prime an error and reboot :(
Yeagh, kindof a thread jack to ask for the opinon on that in here, but i'm kind of at my end with this Q6600. Sure it's a great chip, but not a great combo on this board. I'm a gamer, and want to GAME. Since most games aren't even properly threaded to take advantage of 2 cores let alone 4, i think i'll go back to two until the next great SLI board comes along. Along those lines, I want the most bang for the buck. I got rid of all my older Core2Duo chips, so now i will have to take my chances with a new one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robilar
Well I loved my E6600 on this board, but the E6850 worked at 4ghz ( E6600@3825) though I couldn't run my ram above 1000mhz with this cpu not even with 400FSB, which the E6600 kindly did allow me ... prolly some limitation of that NB/bios together with the 1333FSB CPU's...
some german users are having a blast with the new E8500 CPU at 4ghz too...
Right now, I'm running Prime95 at 3712 too and it's been running for 15 minutes stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by nugzo
Hope it'll keep this way.
Question Nugzo:
Is your 1.5v in your BIOS or in Windows?
I have in BIOS 1.62 and at LOAD it's 1.504.
So let me get this right. Going with a 1333 FSB processor on the Striker Extreme is a bad idea if overclocking is the goal? So is it same to presume then that the 4MB cache CPUs that run with 1066 are good to go for overclocking with the Striker?
I want to pull the trigger on a new processor, but which one.....
So that's why i'm asking the quetsions about a 4MB cache proc versus a 1333FSB proc versus a 2MB cache proc.
Khaotic I got a smooth 445FSB to get 4ghz with the E6850 (1333FSB CPU) funny enough my rig wouldn't be stable with the ram at anything above 1000mhz, apparently the older generation allowed me to get better ram clocks... also weird is that with 1305 bios the 1333FSB CPU ran perfectly smooth though with the Q6600 later on I had to revert back to 1303 to get a good OC... the 680i is like a woman to me, works and is nice when it wants to , can be a :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: on a bad day :)
Totally agree with you there.
So a 1305 BIOS in place rocked for the 6850. But like I'm seeing here, you neeeded the 1303 to OC your Q6600.
So, with that logic, the FSB holes don't exist with a 1333 processor using 1305? Hmm. Decisions decisions.......
YESS!
Got 3.825 stable with Linflas' magical settings!!
I don't understand why it works now and this morning just had black screen.
Anyway, primed several hours and played Counter-Strike Source without any problems.
Great!!
I've set vcore in BIOS to 1.625v
CPU-Z shows 1.536 idle and 1.50 at load.
Shall I set the vcore lower or should I leave it like this?
........and thats similar to what i'm seeing here. I can go for days and see no problems whatso ever. Then, out of the blue, a BSOD or lockup. Sometimes only once, other times almost every hour for a few hours at a time. Then, it's all back to normal for - oh - however long.
I've ran memtest for HOURS and I've ran just about every other CPU stability test I can think of. Prime, Everest, SuperPI. none of those crash or error.
I've heard theories that 4GB of RAM is just BAD on these boards, and i've heard that 4GB of RAM is BAD with a Soundblaster X-fi.
I'm hoping the next gret SLI set from nVidia doesn't draw as much fire as this did. So, nothing against the 1333 FSB CPU's, but the good ol' E6400 or E6600 is looking like my best bet for stability.
I yanked my X-fi just to test as well as yanking 2 sticks to only get 2 gigs still no diff I'm playing with low voltage settings nowQuote:
Originally Posted by Khaotic
Here are the current BIOS numbers so far stable for 20 min or so done the PI calc and WCG is running at 100% on all cores as I type this:Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Vcore 1.325 Everest reads 1.28 on load
Mem 2.0
NB 1.35
SB 1.50
CPUVTT 1.30
seems to be stable @ 9*333 for 3.0 you think i can lower MB voltages some more?
ok well after 3hours of all 4 cores at 100% (WCG) i'm at 58c (CPU) 73 70 68 67 (core 1,2,3,4) 42c Mboard
I think you pretty nailed it there GreyPaws... looks good mate too bad it doesn't seem to want to go higher, but look it like this you got qx6850 performance out of a much cheaper CPU...
Are you on a stock cooler? or some alternative CPU cooling? Cause this is mine on WCG @ 3.6 on waterQuote:
Originally Posted by GreyPaws
Sorry bout the large size
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/6945/wcgak8.jpg
My cooling is not that great I have a Zalman Resorator cooling the CPU the rest of the board is on air. I was thinking about upgrading the cooling but I have no Idea what direction to go. Any tips would be appriciated.
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreyPaws
Hi Grey, we got about the same setting except for 2 thing,
I've got a bit less temperature (not much... my max on 1st core is 70 at worst)
But what make me more worried is that :
Vcore 1.325 Everest reads 1.28 on load
.... mine is 1.5 idle.
I would like if you want, (and can ?) could you try encoding video ?
Everest was running super stable for me (at even less) but when I was encoding video (TmgEnc Express) it was freezing my comp after a while.
It was freezing after about 3h of straight encoding.
:) but for anything else it's super
I think I have Pinnicle studio somewhere otherwise I dont have anything I can encode with unless you count the movie maker that comes with windows.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dudeguy
I've had World Community Grid BIONIC client running for 3 days on these settings now. 100% CPU utilization for over 50 hours now no crashes.
Hello!
Just got my new Striker Extreme today, along with some new memory and some new 8800 GT's, and once Vista is done updating, I plan on overclocking this stuff :)
So am thinking of using the settings below for my:
Striker Extreme
E6600 (On a Waterkeg)
2 x 8800 GT eVGA OC (On WaterKeg)
2 X 2GB G.Skill PC-8000 5-5-5-15 (Vista was grumpy about having both of these installed when it was installing... guess I have to apply some Vista patch)
2 150GB Raptors RAID 0
Soundblaster X-Fi
Vista 64-Bit (Installing as we speak :p)
Of course some of the settings below need some tweaking for my actual system, but I think it should be a good starting point, do you agree?
Quote:
Originally Posted by linflas
I wish I had a better understanding of these actual settings so I wouldn't always have to ask :( Guess I am a bad studier (that really isn't a word...)
Natalia, I have basically the same setup, same ram, etc.., only diff is I have 8800GTX's
Try this for 3.6 with that ram.
AI Tuning: Manual
Nvidia GPU Ex: Disabled
LinkBoost: Disabled
CPU Multi 8
FSB - Memory Clock Mode: Unlinked
x FSB - Memory Raio: N/A
FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1800
Actual FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1800
MEM (DDR), Mhz: 1000
Actual MEM (DDR), Mhz: 1000
Vcore Voltage:1.525 for actual of 1.42
Memory Voltage:2.05
1.2v HT Voltage:1.45
NB Core Voltage:1.5
SB Core Voltage:1.65
CPU VTT Voltage:1.45
DDRII Controller Ref Voltage: auto
DDRII Channel A Ref Voltage: auto
DDRII Channel B Ref Voltage: auto
tCL (CAS Latency): 5
tRCD: 5
tRP: 5
tRAS:15
Command Per Clock (CMD): 2
Advance Memory Settings
tRRD: AUTO
tRC: AUTO
tWR: AUTO
tWTR: AUTO
tREF: AUTO
tRD: AUTO
tRFC: AUTO
Async Latency: AUTO
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Internal Thermal Control: Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E): Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
Virtualization Technology: Disabled
Enhanced Intel Speedstep Tech: Disabled
LDT Frequency: 5x
PCIEX16_1 Frequency (Mhz): 100
PCIEX16_2 Frequency (Mhz): 100
PCIEX16_3 Frequency (Mhz): 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, Mhz: 200
Awesome! Will do, thanks a million for such a fast reply :D
Oh, what BIOS do I want?
EDIT: One more thing: What about the setting SLI-Ready Memory?
Leave it disabled if you want to set things manually for your overclock.
If you enable SLI-Ready (if the ram has an EPP profile) it will automatically set your ram speed, timings, and voltage. Disabled is where most "overclockers" want to be :)
Ah, thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by RyderOCZ
As an aside, my 3DMark score I just got seemed really weak for 2 8800 GT's...
Any speculation as to why?