***Asus Rampage III Extreme Owners Thread***

Speaking of Ivy Bridge, check this out:

Socket 2011 :D

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Originally Posted by spoolindsm127

Speaking of Ivy Bridge, check this out:

Socket 2011 :D

LOL... 1.6GHz. "First ES" is right.

Outstanding speed :)

How frustrating is that... doing 25 passes on LinX at 4.67ghz and 1866 mem and 3733 uncore. Each pass scratching at 102gflops and it BSODs on the 24th pass at full mem of 12gigs with a 101 stop code >.< vcore at 1.51825v... temps are average 85-89*c so ill bump it to 1.525 and try one more time. After it passes, its back down to 4.13ghz for the spring and summer to keep cores at 60*c and below.

Malik think you missed my post after yours on previous page. I suggested a 970 since 6cores have made a large difference to my photography image processing times. Highly recommend hexcore + X58 over SB.

What I found to be fascinating was the die size; 22nm!! :eek:

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Originally Posted by skuldarin

How frustrating is that... doing 25 passes on LinX at 4.67ghz and 1866 mem and 3733 uncore. Each pass scratching at 102gflops and it BSODs on the 24th pass at full mem of 12gigs with a 101 stop code >.< vcore at 1.51825v... temps are average 85-89*c so ill bump it to 1.525 and try one more time. After it passes, its back down to 4.13ghz for the spring and summer to keep cores at 60*c and below.

From my experience skul, that happens purely due to too much heat. Maybe not necessarily just the CPU, but the surrounding components as well.

A trick I found is to do the run with the pc near a open window on a relatively cool night. It's like cheating to make your rad stay cool but hey, it works. I'll admit that was how I got to 4.5GHz :p:. I did mention ambients tho haha

P.S. PPCs has the EK full MB block for $79.95. Both acetal and acrylic versions :up:

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Originally Posted by Malik

For now, this is max.

http://www.abload.de/img/4.2stablevpnb.jpg

OMG WOW!

You got a chip worse than mine .... LOL, sucks to be you :p

If you already had a better 920 before, why didnt you keep it until you had finished testing the 960?

Mine does 4.2 Ghz with 1600 Mhz ram with 1.38v CPU and 1.275v QPI. My Cas 6 2 Gb modules worked with 1.59v DRAM, and my new Corsairs are doing fine with 1.35v at Cas 9 (higher timings, but the PC feels a lot faster with the larger modules).

But your results confirm that gambling from a 920 to a 960 isnt worth it. The only CPU that would be worthwhile upgrading to for 920 owners is the 970 for is 32 nm and extra 2 cores, but its still too expensive for most people.

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Originally Posted by spoolindsm127

Speaking of Ivy Bridge, check this out:

Socket 2011 :D

LOL, what a fail :D

Hopefully Ivy Bridge and Bulldozer will make the I7 970 even cheaper for us R3E owners to get a nice upgrade.

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Originally Posted by spoolindsm127

What I found to be fascinating was the die size; 22nm!! :eek:

Yea, but if you already have such a nice R3E mobo, and a decent I7 chip running over 4 Ghz, you should skip this gen and wait for 16 nm :)

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Originally Posted by spoolindsm127

What I found to be fascinating was the die size; 22nm!! :eek:

From my experience skul, that happens purely due to too much heat. Maybe not necessarily just the CPU, but the surrounding components as well.

A trick I found is to do the run with the pc near a open window on a relatively cool night. It's like cheating to make your rad stay cool but hey, it works. I'll admit that was how I got to 4.5GHz :p:. I did mention ambients tho haha

P.S. PPCs has the EK full MB block for $79.95. Both acetal and acrylic versions :up:

i actually don't seem to have any heat issues at all. CPU stays in low to mid 80's during load and i have a full mobo wate block aswell. i think i might toy with the PWM freqs though and see if that'll help... though i highly doubt that's the issue. everything on the board stays around 35-39*c most of the time. as for my rad, i use a stupid huge Mora3 Pro 9x120mm rad which has prooven to be good for daily clocks and silent fans... but when i do load prime95 and leave it going for about 5-8 hours, it does seem to get heat soak. startin to think my two 4x120 BlackIce GTX xtreme 480's would be more effective for these high loads for extended amounts of time.

rampage friends... is that sure that the EK waterblock that fits this RIIIE fits the same on the RIII Black Edition?! i need to know this... couse i'm about to do that :)

For me it fits, i own both and the EK block but decide to not place it on the BE.

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Originally Posted by p3gaz_001

rampage friends... is that sure that the EK waterblock that fits this RIIIE fits the same on the RIII Black Edition?! i need to know this... couse i'm about to do that :)

Try it and see then tell us ;)

Pinto seems to think it does. Give it a go.

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Originally Posted by pinto

For me it fits, i own both and the EK block but decide to not place it on the BE.

Hows it compare to the normal R3E?

My EK WB barely fits on my non black. :( I almost removed my 1st PCI-E x16 slot lock because it has to be bent to fit correctly with the block.
I don't want to send the block back because I need my computer. :(

Better because some new bios settings are great to control memory oc like the feature to stop memory disappear when you boot, better voltage accuracy (on my r3e the vcore was really high compare to bios setting).
I love the boot post led too, so it's better not too much but better in feature, perf clock to clock and look!

I did some fotos from my r3be bios here:

http://picload.org/folder/cid.html

but that 0404 bios feels like a beta, cpu temp reading is wrong, and southbridge / northbridge temp readings are completely missing in this bios.

regards ac001

Interesting, will be good to see how it compares as it matures. I have no intention of swapping over, I really like the R3E now I have GT, but interested nonetheless.

zoson I had no clearance issues with my EK block, the first PCI-E lock is close but doesnt quite touch (I mean by fractions of a mm) the block.

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Originally Posted by pinto

For me it fits, i own both and the EK block but decide to not place it on the BE.

why not? at least you could try it and give us a feedback :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by CryptiK

Try it and see then tell us ;)

Pinto seems to think it does. Give it a go.

Hows it compare to the normal R3E?

yea .. i'd like to know too :clap:

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Originally Posted by pinto

Better because some new bios settings are great to control memory oc like the feature to stop memory disappear why you boot, better voltage accuracy (on my r3e the vcore was really high compare to bios setting).
I love the boot post led too, so it's better not too much but better in feature, perf clock to clock and look!

that's nice... every time mainboard do not like what i've set on bios on boot i see 2gb ram disappear, i got angry every time...

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Originally Posted by ac001

I did some fotos from my r3be bios here:

http://picload.org/folder/cid.html

but that 0404 bios feels like a beta, cpu temp reading is wrong, and southbridge / northbridge temp readings are completely missing in this bios.

regards ac001

sexy bios! :up: :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by p3gaz_001

why not? at least you could try it and give us a feedback :rolleyes:

Good job criticizing others for your own incompetence :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Even if google worked for you it wouldn't help

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Originally Posted by nowakjan2000

Yes, but when I install the latest official intel RST drivers (10.1.0.1008) it hangs at boot logo. No probs with 9.6.0.1014 thou.

Supposedly 10.1.0.1008 is the version included in the 1208 bios?

Interesting thread on the crucial forum suggesting raiding a single drive for better performance on ICH1OR and custom intel rom updates to the newest rom and rst drivers:

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lsdmeasasp

Here ya go man, the version included in that BIOS was 10.1.0.1008

Here is modified BIOS with the latest I have, 10.5.0.916
http://www.mediafire.com/?7zvoxxxgia2xqib

And here is latest RST Drivers as well 10.5.0.1015
http://www.station-drivers.com/page/intel%20raid.htm

This would be untested, as I am a Gigabyte guy myself, but all looks good from here and I just did a few similar BIOSes last week. Flashing is at your own risk, which should be fine, please let me know how things go!

Thanks

Not yet tested the custom 1208 ROM mod yet ( thanks lsdmeasasp ). Cross posting in case any one else might be interested.

Just tested the 1208 mod bios and it flashes fine but does not work in RAID mode. If I boot in RAID mode with 1208mod there are no drives detected on the ICH10R. Seems to work fine in ACHI and IDE modes though....

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Originally Posted by spoolindsm127

Good job criticizing others for your own incompetence :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Even if google worked for you it wouldn't help

i wonder how sad is your life to come in a pubblic forum and pic me up for this kind of nonsense, this is not the first time and moderator don't do anything to stop your free trolling..... btw i'm happy for you that's the only fun u can have. keep going, have fun.

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Originally Posted by Biker

Just tested the 1208 mod bios and it flashes fine but does not work in RAID mode. If I boot in RAID mode with 1208mod there are no drives detected on the ICH10R. Seems to work fine in ACHI and IDE modes though....

I'll run the issue pass lsdmeasasp and see if there is a solution.

here's a curious issue...

was doing one last improvement to my gFlops for the LinX thing with settings as follows:

vcore - 1.525v
VTT - 1.36825v
DRAM - 1.68
MEM - (stock) 1866 @ 9-9-9-24-82 (rtrl stock is 74 but bios only does 72 and it seems to get goofy)
CPU - 4.672ghz @ 133x35
QPI - 6400
UNCORE - 3733

thing is... at this sitting it was pushing 102gflops consistantly... and frustratingly stoping on error between tests 17 and 20 after about 2 to 2 and half hours on full mem (12gb).

the oddest thing... seems this last day or two. every time i go back to refine the tuning and try again gflops droped to 99... and then again to 97-98. now i haven't tryed again today but i'm gonna assume it might do it again :shrug:. there doesn't seem to be any degrading going on, going back down to normal daily clocks that i run, it's perfectly stable and haven't had to increase vcore any at all. for the moment i'm leaning more toward just some odd randomness.

I just looked at the BIOS again, and I don't see Intel AHCI ROM in there, that is probably why the RAID ROM fails although I dunno since 10.1.0.1008 is in there to begin with?

Not sure though, and I could be missing the AHCI ROM, I was in a hurry. I'll check when I get home, can anyone verify that Intel AHCI ROM is used, I'd expect 1.20E, and if it's used you should see the AHCI BIOS load during POST if you don't haev quick boot or fast boot enabled.

If Intel AHCI ROM is used, and it's older, maybe that needs to be updated as well first before the newer RAID ROM will work? If so, once I find it I'll replace it as well and you guys can test if you like.

planes are already changed, no black edition, but 970 ES . hope is not gonna be a problem the locked multiplier :)

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Originally Posted by Biker

Just tested the 1208 mod bios and it flashes fine but does not work in RAID mode. If I boot in RAID mode with 1208mod there are no drives detected on the ICH10R. Seems to work fine in ACHI and IDE modes though....

Hello people, I have been away for some time but I noticed that a new BIOS was posted for R3E
Rampage III Extreme Bios Ver 1208 Official
Notes
1. Update Intel Raid Option ROM

Since I am using RAID 10 I flashed to that BIOS. In the BIOS I selected RAID and my raid 10 is detected fine and working. I also installed the latest drivers
Intel Rapid Storage Technology v.10.5.0.1015.

But can anyone please tell me in plain English (clearly) what has been made better in this new BIOS with regards to RAID ? And what is the meaning of "Update Intel Raid Option ROM "
Has something been fixed, added, corrected, improved ??
What's the story, I don't understand ?

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Originally Posted by Samson

Hello people, I have been away for some time but I noticed that a new BIOS was posted for R3E
Rampage III Extreme Bios Ver 1208 Official
Notes
1. Update Intel Raid Option ROM

Since I am using RAID 10 I flashed to that BIOS. In the BIOS I selected RAID and my raid 10 is detected fine and working. I also installed the latest drivers
Intel Rapid Storage Technology v.10.5.0.1015.

But can anyone please tell me in plain English (clearly) what has been made better in this new BIOS with regards to RAID ? And what is the meaning of "Update Intel Raid Option ROM "
Has something been fixed, added, corrected, improved ??
What's the story, I don't understand ?

If your stuff was working before, you probably won't notice any changes.

Hi guys.

I have been thinking of buying another Crucial RealSSD C300 256GB to raid them together for double performance but I have never tried to raid drives before so i'm unsure
how to set this up on the R3E, so I was wondering if someone could let me know the propor way to set up raid on the Marvell Controller with two drives.

When setting up raid on the Marvell Controller do I have to install the Marvell drivers or can I still use windows own built in drivers? and if I can still use the built in windows
drivers will I lose automatic Trim with raid setup?

Also would I have to reinstall my windows to setup raid or can I convert my existing windows install onto a raid drive setup?

What would be the best raid mode to use for best performance, raid 0, raid 1 etc?

Thanks a lot guys for helping.

Sylver123.

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Originally Posted by Sylver123

Hi guys.

I have been thinking of buying another Crucial RealSSD C300 256GB to raid them together for double performance but I have never tried to raid drives before so i'm unsure
how to set this up on the R3E, so I was wondering if someone could let me know the propor way to set up raid on the Marvell Controller with two drives.

When setting up raid on the Marvell Controller do I have to install the Marvell drivers or can I still use windows own built in drivers? and if I can still use the built in windows
drivers will I lose automatic Trim with raid setup?

Also would I have to reinstall my windows to setup raid or can I convert my existing windows install onto a raid drive setup?

What would be the best raid mode to use for best performance, raid 0, raid 1 etc?

Thanks a lot guys for helping.

Sylver123.

to what i recall - the Marvell controller and the Intel controller are two seperate controllers. the one you see when you first built your computer (to my knowledge) is the Intel controller. i personally just use the intel controller sense when i got my board the marvell controller was a bit off but i also haven't tried the new drivers either. you'll just have to decide which you want to use... although the marvell controller for our board is SATA6 ready where as the intel controller is not.

as for installing windows, yes you'll have to as setting up raid requires erasing all data and sync'ing both drives together. Raid 0 is your performance buster.

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for an update on stability...

cranked
4.672ghz LinX 21 pass stable at full 12gb mem at 1866 and 2x uncore (3733) 101.2Gflops
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71...us/jackpot.jpg

daily
4.272ghz LinX / Prime95 stable at full 12gb mem at 1866 and 2x uncore (3733) 93.1Gflops
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71...lus/daily1.jpg

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Originally Posted by Samson

Hello people, I have been away for some time but I noticed that a new BIOS was posted for R3E
Rampage III Extreme Bios Ver 1208 Official
Notes
1. Update Intel Raid Option ROM

Since I am using RAID 10 I flashed to that BIOS. In the BIOS I selected RAID and my raid 10 is detected fine and working. I also installed the latest drivers
Intel Rapid Storage Technology v.10.5.0.1015.

But can anyone please tell me in plain English (clearly) what has been made better in this new BIOS with regards to RAID ? And what is the meaning of "Update Intel Raid Option ROM "
Has something been fixed, added, corrected, improved ??
What's the story, I don't understand ?

The Intel raid option ROM is code supplied by Intel and packed inside the BIOS that is necessary to manage every raid configuration.

As this option ROM has been never updated by Asus since first BIOS, it was very old and causes some issues with SSD.
They decided to update the Intel option ROM with a newer release in BIOS 1208 but unfortunately they broke the compatibility with third party raid controllers. :(

I hope my english is enough clear even it is not my mother language. :)

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Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap

I just looked at the BIOS again, and I don't see Intel AHCI ROM in there, that is probably why the RAID ROM fails although I dunno since 10.1.0.1008 is in there to begin with?

Not sure though, and I could be missing the AHCI ROM, I was in a hurry. I'll check when I get home, can anyone verify that Intel AHCI ROM is used, I'd expect 1.20E, and if it's used you should see the AHCI BIOS load during POST if you don't haev quick boot or fast boot enabled.

If Intel AHCI ROM is used, and it's older, maybe that needs to be updated as well first before the newer RAID ROM will work? If so, once I find it I'll replace it as well and you guys can test if you like.

Intel AHCI is totally managed by drivers and Intel option ROM is called only when you set BIOS to RAID.
There isn't an Intel AHCI option ROM.

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Originally Posted by skuldarin

to what i recall - the Marvell controller and the Intel controller are two seperate controllers. the one you see when you first built your computer (to my knowledge) is the Intel controller. i personally just use the intel controller sense when i got my board the marvell controller was a bit off but i also haven't tried the new drivers either. you'll just have to decide which you want to use... although the marvell controller for our board is SATA6 ready where as the intel controller is not.

as for installing windows, yes you'll have to as setting up raid requires erasing all data and sync'ing both drives together. Raid 0 is your performance buster.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

for an update on stability...

cranked
4.672ghz LinX 21 pass stable at full 12gb mem at 1866 and 2x uncore (3733) 101.2Gflops
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71...us/jackpot.jpg

daily
4.272ghz LinX / Prime95 stable at full 12gb mem at 1866 and 2x uncore (3733) 93.1Gflops
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71...lus/daily1.jpg

I`ll be using the Marvell controller as the Crucial RealSSD C300 drives work better off this controller.

The thing I wanted to know if anyone knows is to raid on this controller do I need to install the Marvell drivers or will windows own built in drivers work?

Also you said i'll have to reinstall windows but is there no way I could just make a image backup of my current windows install and then when seting up raid,
chose to create a hard drive partition the same size as my orignal install partition the restore the image backup onto it?

I`m sure I have read on the internet there are ways to convert non raid windows to raid.

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Originally Posted by zoson

I did not have to install any drivers for the raid0 to work with my Marvell controller in windows for my OS boot drive. I just had to change the boot order in the bios and it worked no problems at all.

At one point I installed the Marvell console because windows update suggests it. I uninstalled that crap shortly after because it was just bloat-ware.

Just ignore skuldarin... He doesn't read and comprehend the questions people are asking. I understand how frustrating it is to have someone like him giving you bad and/or irrelevant information. Adding him to my ignore list was an excellent choice... Except I still have to read his junk when people quote him. :(

I take it a image backup method of keeping my existing non raid install and then restore the image on a partition of the same size on the created raid
should work without problems? and ones I have restored my existing bootable windows non raid install to the partition raid, on booting, windows should
see it as raid and install the necessary drivers and change registry configurations etc?

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Originally Posted by Sylver123

I take it a image backup method of keeping my existing non raid install and then restore the image on a partition of the same size on the created raid
should work without problems? and ones I have restored my existing bootable windows non raid install to the partition raid, on booting, windows should
see it as raid and install the necessary drivers and change registry configurations etc?

I would expect that your image won't boot after restoring it. You'll need to use a windows install disk to repair your installation after the image has been restored.

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Originally Posted by zoson

I would expect that your image won't boot after restoring it. You'll need to use a windows install disk to repair your installation after the image has been restored.

To get around this could I not just clone my existing non raid install onto the raid drive using a tool such as Acronis True Image Home 2011?

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Originally Posted by Sylver123

I`ll be using the Marvell controller as the Crucial RealSSD C300 drives work better off this controller.

You would be better of running your raid 0 from the intel sata II controller. On this board the Marvell controller is the 9128 and is limited by a PCI-E x1 lane speed. I know your ssd is sata III but you will find a bottleneck if you try to put it on the Marvell 9128.

Intel x58 is a better chip all around anyway. If you really want to get the most out of your raid 0 with 2 sata III ssd's, you'll need to get a raid card.

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Originally Posted by Sylver123

To get around this could I not just clone my existing non raid install onto the raid drive using a tool such as Acronis True Image Home 2011?

No, the drivers will be different for your marvell controller. a copied image will not have these drivers installed. You run the installer to fix that. Your MBR might also be invalid for the new drives, but the install repair feature will fix that also.

Does Raid actually work on the Marvel controller?

Haven't tried it yet but the RAIDFix application mentioned in the crucial thread looks promising.

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Download RAIDFix 1.1.0
45 KB, .exe – Requires .NET 3.5

RAIDFix is a small application that allows you to enable RAID on an Intel ICH-based motherboard after installing Windows with RAID disabled.

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Originally Posted by bhavv

Does Raid actually work on the Marvel controller?

There are 2 ways to set up the raid. Of course you must connect your 2 drives to the red 6gbps ports in order to have the options available.

First thing to do is in the bios go to:

Advanced Tab
Onboard Devices Configuration
Onboard SATA6G Controller
Choose AHCI

First method is in the bios.
Go to the Tools tab.
Scroll to "Drive Xpert Configuration"" and press enter
Scroll to "Update To Super Speed" press enter and enable for Raid 0
("Update To EZ Backup" is for Raid 1)

The other method is just like intel
When you are booting up, watch for the Marvel Configuration Utility and press control "M"
From in the utility you can set up your Raid

All this said, I would not use the Marvel to run raid 0 anyway. The Rampage III Extreme uses the 9128 chip for the Marvell Controller and is limited to PCI-E x1 lane speed.

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Originally Posted by claydough

Haven't tried it yet but the RAIDFix application mentioned in the crucial thread looks promising.

Wait, so if I buy another 64 Gb C300, I can raid it with my current one without reinstalling windows?

Ok, I got the answers to the Raid 0, I thought it didnt work all this time, bring on 64 Gb C300 price cuts!

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Originally Posted by bhavv

Does Raid actually work on the Marvel controller?

yes.

Doesn't look like it behaves as well as an intel raid. lsdmeasasp posted a pretty comprehensive comparison:
Marvell Vs. ICH10R(intel) Vs. Highpoint 640 (Single/RAID)

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Originally Posted by zinsco

All this said, I would not use the Marvel to run raid 0 anyway. The Rampage III Extreme uses the 9128 chip for the Marvell Controller and is limited to PCI-E x1 lane speed.

Sure, it is a limit. But I still get about 470mb/sec read off my two x25-m 80GB in raid0 on the 9218 chip, and write speed is not bottlenecked at all running at a solid 140mb/sec(saturation point of two x25-m 80gb's in raid0).

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Originally Posted by bhavv

Wait, so if I buy another 64 Gb C300, I can raid it with my current one without reinstalling windows?

Ok, I got the answers to the Raid 0, I thought it didnt work all this time, bring on 64 Gb C300 price cuts!

That's not what he was saying. It enables you to install other drives as raid after installing windows without the driver.

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Originally Posted by zoson

That's not what he was saying. It enables you to install other drives as raid after installing windows without the driver.

Sorry, I'm a complete nubcake when it comes to Raid :(

Right now I've got my two F3s in Raid 0. If I buy a second 64 Gb C300 and then erase my current one, can I put the two C300s in Raid 0 before reinstalling Windows onto them? Would the data on my F3 raid 0 array remain safe? I have it regularly backed up onto an F4 anyway, but it still seems like setting this up would be a nightmare:

- Raid 0 64 Gb C300s on Marvel Sata III ports with Windows 7 installed on them
- Raid 0 Samsung F3s for my gaming drive
- 1 F4 for backing up the raid, the other F4 for everything else.

Thats what I want to do, would it be easy or difficult to setup on this board?

From the results posted, people pretty much confirm what I've always heard about the marvel ports - a single Sata III SSD on them is faster than it is on the Intel Sata II ports, but two SSDs in Raid 0 work a lot better on the Intel ports than they do on the Marvel.

I think I'll simply not bother, I've always wanted raid 0 goodness with my C300, but it wont do anything plugged into my remaining marvel port.

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Originally Posted by zoson

Sure, it is a limit. But I still get about 470mb/sec read off my two x25-m 80GB in raid0 on the 9218 chip, and write speed is not bottlenecked at all running at a solid 140mb/sec(saturation point of two x25-m 80gb's in raid0).

If you had them on the sata 2 intel chip, you would get the same if not better. Why use the Marvell if you don't get any performance boost over the intel and the intel chip is tried and true for a long time. Not just performance in speed but a better chip period.

Here's my two vertex 2's R0 on the intel:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22074005/20100915.PNG

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Originally Posted by bhavv

Sorry, I'm a complete nubcake when it comes to Raid :(

Right now I've got my two F3s in Raid 0. If I buy a second 64 Gb C300 and then erase my current one, can I put the two C300s in Raid 0 before reinstalling Windows onto them? Would the data on my F3 raid 0 array remain safe? I have it regularly backed up onto an F4 anyway, but it still seems like setting this up would be a nightmare:

- Raid 0 64 Gb C300s on Marvel Sata III ports with Windows 7 installed on them
- Raid 0 Samsung F3s for my gaming drive
- 1 F4 for backing up the raid, the other F4 for everything else.

Thats what I want to do, would it be easy or difficult to setup on this board?

From the results posted, people pretty much confirm what I've always heard about the marvel ports - a single Sata III SSD on them is faster than it is on the Intel Sata II ports, but two SSDs in Raid 0 work a lot better on the Intel ports than they do on the Marvel.

I think I'll simply not bother, I've always wanted raid 0 goodness with my C300, but it wont do anything plugged into my remaining marvel port.

Modifying the ssd raid config will not affect the raid config of your hdd raid. You'll get faster performance with a raid0 on marvell than a single disk, it just won't be as fast as raid0 on the intel controller.

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Originally Posted by zinsco

If you had them on the sata 2 intel chip, you would get the same if not better. Why use the Marvell if you don't get any performance boost over the intel and the intel chip is tried and true for a long time. Not just performance in speed but a better chip period.

Here's my two vertex 2's R0 on the intel:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22074005/20100915.PNG

I have my intel controller populated fully with platter based disks and my optical drives... I'm not really going to cry over less than 80mb/sec in the grand scheme of 450+mb/sec read speeds... lol and well, my intel drives couldn't write faster than 140mb/sec even if they wanted to.

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Originally Posted by zoson

I have my intel controller populated fully with platter based disks and my optical drives... I'm not really going to cry over less than 80mb/sec in the grand scheme of 450+mb/sec read speeds... lol and well, my intel drives couldn't write faster than 140mb/sec even if they wanted to.

I hear ya.:up:

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Originally Posted by bhavv

Right now I've got my two F3s in Raid 0. If I buy a second 64 Gb C300 and then erase my current one, can I put the two C300s in Raid 0 before reinstalling Windows onto them? Would the data on my F3 raid 0 array remain safe? I have it regularly backed up onto an F4 anyway, but it still seems like setting this up would be a nightmare:

- Raid 0 64 Gb C300s on Marvel Sata III ports with Windows 7 installed on them
- Raid 0 Samsung F3s for my gaming drive
- 1 F4 for backing up the raid, the other F4 for everything else.

Thats what I want to do, would it be easy or difficult to setup on this board?

From the results posted, people pretty much confirm what I've always heard about the marvel ports - a single Sata III SSD on them is faster than it is on the Intel Sata II ports, but two SSDs in Raid 0 work a lot better on the Intel ports than they do on the Marvel.

I think I'll simply not bother, I've always wanted raid 0 goodness with my C300, but it wont do anything plugged into my remaining marvel port.

Your setup would be easy to do with your three arrays/disks.

The marvel controller will give you faster performance in raid0 with two C300's than it would with a single C300. If you put the same C300's on the intel controller, you'll get even better performance in raid0 on intel than you would on marvel.

I know I mentioned this earlier today at 2:11pm, but it's on the last page and it was apparently missed by some people. :shrug:

Needless to say, raid0 on either marvel or intel would be significantly faster than a single drive. If you want the last bit of performance, go with the intel controller as it doesn't have the bottleneck others were mentioning with the 1x pcie lanes.

Otherwise, the marvel will do you just fine. You can always plug your optical into the marvel, also. I would have done that if my drives were capable of saturating the marvel controller.

Anyway, you will probably have to format to make this switch. That makes it easy for you to do either option!

How come windows 7 shows a lower cpu speed when bclk is low and multi is high? Is there a fix?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22074005/cpu%20speed.PNG

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22074005/cpu%20speed%204.6.PNG

^^
i've seen that too and wondered about it but never really thought much about it.

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new daily settings: 4.4ghz @ 1.40625 vcore, 68*c average temp. w/HT off.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71...lus/daily2.jpg

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Originally Posted by skuldarin

^^
i've seen that too and wondered about it but never really thought much about it.

Ya, it's not gona stop me from using a high multi if that's the setting that works best for what I'm trying to do, but I would like to know why it does it and how to fix it.

Windows assumes stock multi is being used and goes off BCLK only so it will calculate BCLK x stock multi and give you the speed in sys info.

Aren't you taking a big performance hit with 2t cammand rate and ht off. :sofa:

^^^
not really actually. tested with both T2 and T1 on the same timings and it seems to come out the same every time on what programs i have to test it. i DON'T have everest though which would show in detail what i'm missing out on but nothing else seems to be noticing a difference.

I just finished reading this whole thread. Took me about a week and I don't think I retained
half of the information, but thanks to all of you guys I have learned a lot.

I need some help with linx and any suggestions at all with my settings.

I can pass prime95 but linx stops with error after first loop. My average temp is below 70c.
I can drop my vcore if I go to 4500MHz but stops linx after two loops. Here's my settings:

Code:

Target CPU Frequency 4600MHz Target DRAM Frequency 2005MHz LN2 Mode [Disabled]*** QPI Loadline Calibration [Enabled]*** Sync Mode [] AI Overclock Tuner [Manual] OC From CPU level Up [Auto] 2D Performance Booster [Disabled] CPU Ratio Setting [23.0] CPU Turbo Power Limit [Disabled] >CPU Configuration---------------------------- CPU Ratio Setting [23.0] C1E Support [Disabled] Hardware Prefetcher [Enabled] Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch [Enabled] MPS and ACPI MADT ordering [Modern ordering] Intel(R) Virtualization Tech [Enabled] CPU TM Function [Disabled] Execute Disable Bit [Enabled] Intel(R) HT Technology [Enabled] *Active Processor Cores [All] A20M [Disabled] *Intel(R) SpeedStep(TM) Tech [Disabled] Intel(R) C-STATE Tech [Disabled] C State package limit setting [] C1 Auto Demotion [] C3 Auto Demotion [] ---------------------------------------------- BCLK Frequency [200] PCIE Frequency [100] DRAM Frequency [DDR3-2005MHz] UCLK Frequency [3008MHz] QPI Link Data Rate [Auto] Memory Configuration Protect [Disabled] >DRAM Timing Control-------------------------- CAS# Latency [ 8 DRAM Clock] RAS# to CAS# Delay [ 8 DRAM Clock] RAS# PRE Time [ 8 DRAM Clock] RAS# ACT Time [24 DRAM Clock] RAS# to RAS# Delay [Auto] REF Cycle Time [Auto] WRITE Recovery Time [Auto] READ to PRE Time [Auto] FOUR ACT WIN Time [Auto] Back-To-BackCAS# Delay [Auto] Timing Mode [1N] Round Trip Latency on CHA [Auto] Round Trip Latency on CHB [Auto] Round Trip Latency on CHC [Auto] WRITE To READ Delay(DD) [Auto] WRITE To READ Delay(DR) [Auto] WRITE To READ Delay(SR) [Auto] READ To WRITE Delay(DD) [Auto] READ To WRITE Delay(DR) [Auto] READ To WRITE Delay(SR) [Auto] READ To READ Delay(DD) [Auto] READ To READ Delay(DR) [Auto] READ To READ Delay(SR) [Auto] WRITE To WRITE Delay(DD) [Auto] WRITE To WRITE Delay(DR) [Auto] WRITE To WRITE Delay(SR) [Auto] ---------------------------------------------- CPU Differential Amplitude [Auto] CPU Clock Skew [Auto] IOH Clock Skew [Auto] ------------ Extreme Engine Digi+ ------------ Digi+ PWR Mode [T-Balanced] PWM Volt. Control [Auto] Load-Line Calibration [Full Calibration] CPU Voltage OCP [Enabled] CPU PWM Frequency [Auto] Extreme OV [Disabled] Extreme OC [Auto] CPU Voltage [1.47500] CPU PLL Voltage [Auto] QPI/DRAM Core Voltage [1.30000] DRAM Bus Voltage [1.65625] >DRAM REF Voltages---------------------------- DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA [Auto] DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA [Auto] DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB [Auto] DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB [Auto] DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC [Auto] DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHC [Auto] ---------------------------------------------- IOH Voltage [1.15275] IOH PCIE Voltage [Auto] ICH Voltage [1.15275] ICH PCIE Voltage [Auto] ---------- Spread Spectrum Control ----------- CPU Spread Spectrum [Auto] PCIE Spread Spectrum [Auto] ***on-board jumper dependant

Quote:

Originally Posted by zinsco

I just finished reading this whole thread. Took me about a week and I don't think I retained
half of the information, but I have learned a lot. I need some help with linx.

I can pass prime95 but linx stops with error after first loop. My average temp is below 70c.
I can drop my vcore if I go to 4500MHz but stops linx after two loops. Here's my settings.

Code:

Target CPU Frequency 4600MHz Target DRAM Frequency 2005MHz LN2 Mode [Disabled]*** QPI Loadline Calibration [Enabled]*** Sync Mode [] AI Overclock Tuner [Manual] OC From CPU level Up [Auto] 2D Performance Booster [Disabled] CPU Ratio Setting [23.0] CPU Turbo Power Limit [Disabled] >CPU Configuration---------------------------- CPU Ratio Setting [23.0] C1E Support [Disabled] Hardware Prefetcher [Enabled] Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch [Enabled] MPS and ACPI MADT ordering [Modern ordering] Intel(R) Virtualization Tech [Enabled] CPU TM Function [Disabled] Execute Disable Bit [Enabled] Intel(R) HT Technology [Enabled] *Active Processor Cores [All] A20M [Disabled] *Intel(R) SpeedStep(TM) Tech [Disabled] Intel(R) C-STATE Tech [Disabled] C State package limit setting [] C1 Auto Demotion [] C3 Auto Demotion [] ---------------------------------------------- BCLK Frequency [200] PCIE Frequency [100] DRAM Frequency [DDR3-2005MHz] UCLK Frequency [3008MHz] QPI Link Data Rate [Auto] Memory Configuration Protect [Disabled] >DRAM Timing Control-------------------------- CAS# Latency [ 8 DRAM Clock] RAS# to CAS# Delay [ 8 DRAM Clock] RAS# PRE Time [ 8 DRAM Clock] RAS# ACT Time [24 DRAM Clock] RAS# to RAS# Delay [Auto] REF Cycle Time [Auto] WRITE Recovery Time [Auto] READ to PRE Time [Auto] FOUR ACT WIN Time [Auto] Back-To-BackCAS# Delay [Auto] Timing Mode [1N] Round Trip Latency on CHA [Auto] Round Trip Latency on CHB [Auto] Round Trip Latency on CHC [Auto] WRITE To READ Delay(DD) [Auto] WRITE To READ Delay(DR) [Auto] WRITE To READ Delay(SR) [Auto] READ To WRITE Delay(DD) [Auto] READ To WRITE Delay(DR) [Auto] READ To WRITE Delay(SR) [Auto] READ To READ Delay(DD) [Auto] READ To READ Delay(DR) [Auto] READ To READ Delay(SR) [Auto] WRITE To WRITE Delay(DD) [Auto] WRITE To WRITE Delay(DR) [Auto] WRITE To WRITE Delay(SR) [Auto] ---------------------------------------------- CPU Differential Amplitude [Auto] CPU Clock Skew [Auto] IOH Clock Skew [Auto] ------------ Extreme Engine Digi+ ------------ Digi+ PWR Mode [T-Balanced] PWM Volt. Control [Auto] Load-Line Calibration [Full Calibration] CPU Voltage OCP [Enabled] CPU PWM Frequency [Auto] Extreme OV [Disabled] Extreme OC [Auto] CPU Voltage [1.47500] CPU PLL Voltage [Auto] QPI/DRAM Core Voltage [1.30000] DRAM Bus Voltage [1.65625] >DRAM REF Voltages---------------------------- DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA [Auto] DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA [Auto] DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB [Auto] DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB [Auto] DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC [Auto] DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHC [Auto] ---------------------------------------------- IOH Voltage [1.15275] IOH PCIE Voltage [Auto] ICH Voltage [1.15275] ICH PCIE Voltage [Auto] ---------- Spread Spectrum Control ----------- CPU Spread Spectrum [Auto] PCIE Spread Spectrum [Auto] ***on-board jumper dependant

Bump up your Vtt (QPI) 1.30v is probably too low for DDR3-2000 MHz. Try something like 1.3625v (probably about 1.32v real) and see if that helps.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CryptiK

Bump up your Vtt (QPI) 1.30v is probably too low for DDR3-2000 MHz. Try something like 1.3625v (probably about 1.32v real) and see if that helps.

Well, I tried higher Vtt but no joy. Why is it that I can run prime95 no problem, but linx is a no go?
Do I have wrong settings maybe, or does linx put more stress?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brama

Intel AHCI is totally managed by drivers and Intel option ROM is called only when you set BIOS to RAID.
There isn't an Intel AHCI option ROM.

Thanks, that's correct and may be why the mod does not work. I looked through all 36 modules in the BIOS with a hex editor and notepad, and none are Intel AHCI ROM, so this may by why the new ROM fails to load, some other module in the BIOS would also need edited to call the new RAID ROM into action.

I ran into a similar issue trying to mod the 10.1.0.1008 ROM into some EVGA BIOSes for users a few weeks ago, they are in a similar boat with no Intel AHCI ROM either, so without the manufacturer editing in the newest ROM it's not going to work using normal end user mod methods.

10.1.0.1008 is a good ROM though, so you guys should be fine with that. I am not sure what was in your BIOS before this one, but many boards are still using 9.6 or earlier (Updated a few from 8.0-8.5 last week), so at least you now have 10.1.0.1008 anyway!

@ C300 SSD users - if any of you are thinking about setting up RAID on the Marvell 9128 controller please see my C300 review linked in my signature! This controller cannot handle SSD's in RAID, and speeds will be slower than that of a single drive (When it's not crashing on you during a bench :D) Gigabyte has even edited their specifications for boards with these controllers, adding that SSD RAID should not be used.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zinsco

Well, I tried higher Vtt but no joy. Why is it that I can run prime95 no problem, but linx is a no go?
Do I have wrong settings maybe, or does linx put more stress?

try running with HT off maybe and try manually setting qpi data link manually at closest to 6400 and then try toying with your rTL's manually as they tend to be choosen too tight or too loose when set to auto.

New bios 1301 ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/LG...e_III_Extreme/

Quote:

Originally Posted by SOYLINDA

New bios 1301 ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/LG...e_III_Extreme/

Wow that was fast. I wonder what the changes are.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap

Thanks, that's correct and may be why the mod does not work. I looked through all 36 modules in the BIOS with a hex editor and notepad, and none are Intel AHCI ROM, so this may by why the new ROM fails to load, some other module in the BIOS would also need edited to call the new RAID ROM into action.

I ran into a similar issue trying to mod the 10.1.0.1008 ROM into some EVGA BIOSes for users a few weeks ago, they are in a similar boat with no Intel AHCI ROM either, so without the manufacturer editing in the newest ROM it's not going to work using normal end user mod methods.

10.1.0.1008 is a good ROM though, so you guys should be fine with that. I am not sure what was in your BIOS before this one, but many boards are still using 9.6 or earlier (Updated a few from 8.0-8.5 last week), so at least you now have 10.1.0.1008 anyway!

@ C300 SSD users - if any of you are thinking about setting up RAID on the Marvell 9128 controller please see my C300 review linked in my signature! This controller cannot handle SSD's in RAID, and speeds will be slower than that of a single drive (When it's not crashing on you during a bench :D) Gigabyte has even edited their specifications for boards with these controllers, adding that SSD RAID should not be used.

I'm wondering if the new Marvell FW and option ROM will possibly solve this issue? I don't have 2 C300s to test with, but the new BIOS I got from MrToad (SEE HERE) for the Rampage III Gene fixed all the issues I was having just trying to have the computer recognize the drive to install Windows. Might be able to input the same Marvell package into the 1301 release for the Extreme.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zinsco

Well, I tried higher Vtt but no joy. Why is it that I can run prime95 no problem, but linx is a no go?
Do I have wrong settings maybe, or does linx put more stress?

Quote:

Digi+ PWR Mode [T-Balanced]

try changing that 4.6 is to high for it to runn TB

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoson

Modifying the ssd raid config will not affect the raid config of your hdd raid. You'll get faster performance with a raid0 on marvell than a single disk, it just won't be as fast as raid0 on the intel controller.

I figured out how I can put them on the Intel controller, I cant believe how I overlooked it before ...

Move the DVD drive to a marvel port, then I have two free Sata II ports :)

So now I just need to wait for the 64 Gb C300 to go on offer, which should happen as soon as the M4 is released

Thanks for the advice, I'll keep a look out for 64 Gb C300 reductions over the next few weeks.

Yeah Bios 1301 is on the ftp site!

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/LG...ge_III_Extreme

Thanks, Deboyzfun for the info. Getting it now and i wonder what the deal is with this one. Two of them released in one month. Odd indeed but i like they are doing them though that fast.

technical question, should i connect both EZ_PLUG while running two way sli or one is just enough?! cause i'm having some kind of stabilty problems ...

I assume you have one card in the first pci-express and the other in the third. I do believe each ez plug powers the two shared lanes. So the first plug will power 1rst & 2nd pci-express. And the other will do the 3rd & 4th slots.

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Originally Posted by p3gaz_001

technical question, should i connect both EZ_PLUG while running two way sli or one is just enough?! cause i'm having some kind of stabilty problems ...

They are both on the same power plane so use either.

I cleaned up the thread from some irrelevant posts over the last pages.

Carry on and be nice.

Just a quick question.

I'm running SLI with 2x 480's in slot #1 and #3, this blocks off my PCI slot for my soundcard, Do I have to skip this soundcard and use the built in one? :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by haxxie

Just a quick question.

I'm running SLI with 2x 480's in slot #1 and #3, this blocks off my PCI slot for my soundcard, Do I have to skip this soundcard and use the built in one? :(

Why not place it in the forth one? Or is it too tall to go in the second lane? As you know they will work in a full pci express lane also. Also forgot to mention if you are using the hard sli-bridge, just use a long flex cable maybe.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_K

I assume you have one card in the first pci-express and the other in the third. I do believe each ez plug powers the two shared lanes. So the first plug will power 1rst & 2nd pci-express. And the other will do the 3rd & 4th slots.

by now i've plugged EZ_PLUG2 .. i do not have enough cable to reach the EZ_PLUG

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raja@ASUS

They are both on the same power plane so use either.

OK, i'll be using the second one.. in a second time, i'll connect the first to if it works the same... thank you!.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jupiler

I cleaned up the thread from some irrelevant posts over the last pages.

Carry on and be nice.

:up:

Quote:

Originally Posted by haxxie

Just a quick question.

I'm running SLI with 2x 480's in slot #1 and #3, this blocks off my PCI slot for my soundcard, Do I have to skip this soundcard and use the built in one? :(

.. unless you buy a single slot video card bracket.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_K

Why not place it in the forth one? Or is it too tall to go in the second lane? As you know they will work in a full pci express lane also. Also forgot to mention if you are using the hard sli-bridge, just use a long flex cable maybe.

in the users manual it's wrote that, 2 way sli is only supported on slot 1 & 3.

Quote : in the users manual it's wrote that, 2 way sli is only supported on slot 1 & 3.

At x16, yep 1 and 3 but wil work in any combination of slots just with different speeds.

and another fact i'd notice since i've got sli is my overclock, it becomes very unstable... how to avoid this?! 102 pci-e clock ? bumping pci-e voltage? do anyone had this kind of problem coming from a single gpu config?

When i said the 4th slot i meant move your sound card there. As why i mentioned the flex sli bridge if it was two tall for a hard sli bridge.

Quote:

Originally Posted by p3gaz_001

and another fact i'd notice since i've got sli is my overclock, it becomes very unstable... how to avoid this?! 102 pci-e clock ? bumping pci-e voltage? do anyone had this kind of problem coming from a single gpu config?

Increase IOH and ICH voltage. I need 1.2v IOH and 1.16v ICH for my SLI setup.
I find pci-e freq does nothing for me unless I'm above 205bclk.

Also, you may need to increase QPI.

Quote:

Originally Posted by haxxie

Just a quick question.

I'm running SLI with 2x 480's in slot #1 and #3, this blocks off my PCI slot for my soundcard, Do I have to skip this soundcard and use the built in one? :(

The board is designed for a PCI-E soundcard with either 2 triple slot, or 3 dual slot GFX cards unfortunately.

You could maybe sell your current soundcard and get a nice PCI-E one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoson

Increase IOH and ICH voltage. I need 1.2v IOH and 1.16v ICH for my SLI setup.
I find pci-e freq does nothing for me unless I'm above 205bclk.

Also, you may need to increase QPI.

i'll do some trials.... i'll be here writing if something goes wrong/not as it suppost to.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhavv

The board is designed for a PCI-E soundcard with either 2 triple slot, or 3 dual slot GFX cards unfortunately.

You could maybe sell your current soundcard and get a nice PCI-E one.

quote, exactly what i've done!

Anyone try 1301 yet? Does it have tRL adjustment?

i'm on 1301 did not see nothing like that apart a new voice called "memory recheck".

Just updated to 1301, running great. I have no idea what the changelog is though....haha

Quote:

Originally Posted by WangChung

I'm wondering if the new Marvell FW and option ROM will possibly solve this issue? I don't have 2 C300s to test with, but the new BIOS I got from MrToad (SEE HERE) for the Rampage III Gene fixed all the issues I was having just trying to have the computer recognize the drive to install Windows. Might be able to input the same Marvell package into the 1301 release for the Extreme.

The problem must not be universal. I've installed Win 7 64 numerous times on C300 256GB drives connected to the Marvell controller. For what it's worth, in my tests I've always started from a secure erase state.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CryptiK

Bump up your Vtt (QPI) 1.30v is probably too low for DDR3-2000 MHz. Try something like 1.3625v (probably about 1.32v real) and see if that helps.

Quote:

Originally Posted by skuldarin

try running with HT off maybe and try manually setting qpi data link manually at closest to 6400 and then try toying with your rTL's manually as they tend to be choosen too tight or too loose when set to auto.

skuldarin, any suggestions on what to try with my rTL's?

Thanks to you two guys I finally passed linx. I think the biggest factor was the HT. That leads me to three questions.

1. I was able to pass prime95 with HT on at 4.6 but not linx. Once I turn HT off I can pass linx. How important is it to pass say 20 loops with linx if I can pass prime95. I mean other than benching and being able to post in the 4.5 club and stuff like that because linx is the requirement? Is it good enough, or in other words, is my system stable enough passing prime95.

2. Is a higher speed with HT off better than a lower speed with HT on or visa versa. For example, 4.6 HT off compared to 4.5 HT on.

3. Why the difference between prime95 and linx or what is the difference?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dom7184

try changing that 4.6 is to high for it to runn TB

OK, I will play with that some also, or do you think I still need to since I've passed linx?

Also, do you guys have any suggestion on how I can bring my vcore down or am I pretty much stuck with where I have it for the 4.6GHz. If so would you say for 24/7 I will need to just bring the speed down so that I can keep the vcore no higher than 4.5?

Here's my settings showing the changes I've made:

Code:

Target CPU Frequency 4600MHz Target DRAM Frequency 2005MHz LN2 Mode [Disabled]*** QPI Loadline Calibration [Enabled]*** Sync Mode [] AI Overclock Tuner [Manual] OC From CPU level Up [Auto] 2D Performance Booster [Disabled] CPU Ratio Setting [23.0] CPU Turbo Power Limit [Disabled] >CPU Configuration---------------------------- CPU Ratio Setting [23.0] C1E Support [Disabled] Hardware Prefetcher [Enabled] Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch [Enabled] MPS and ACPI MADT ordering [Modern ordering] Intel(R) Virtualization Tech [Enabled] CPU TM Function [Disabled] Execute Disable Bit [Enabled] Intel(R) HT Technology [Enabled] Disabled *Active Processor Cores [All] A20M [Disabled] *Intel(R) SpeedStep(TM) Tech [Disabled] Intel(R) C-STATE Tech [Disabled] C State package limit setting [] C1 Auto Demotion [] C3 Auto Demotion [] ---------------------------------------------- BCLK Frequency [200] PCIE Frequency [100] DRAM Frequency [DDR3-2005MHz] UCLK Frequency [3008MHz] QPI Link Data Rate [Auto] 7218 Memory Configuration Protect [Disabled] >DRAM Timing Control-------------------------- CAS# Latency [ 8 DRAM Clock] RAS# to CAS# Delay [ 8 DRAM Clock] RAS# PRE Time [ 8 DRAM Clock] RAS# ACT Time [24 DRAM Clock] RAS# to RAS# Delay [Auto] REF Cycle Time [Auto] WRITE Recovery Time [Auto] READ to PRE Time [Auto] FOUR ACT WIN Time [Auto] Back-To-BackCAS# Delay [Auto] Timing Mode [1N] Round Trip Latency on CHA [Auto] Round Trip Latency on CHB [Auto] Round Trip Latency on CHC [Auto] WRITE To READ Delay(DD) [Auto] WRITE To READ Delay(DR) [Auto] WRITE To READ Delay(SR) [Auto] READ To WRITE Delay(DD) [Auto] READ To WRITE Delay(DR) [Auto] READ To WRITE Delay(SR) [Auto] READ To READ Delay(DD) [Auto] READ To READ Delay(DR) [Auto] READ To READ Delay(SR) [Auto] WRITE To WRITE Delay(DD) [Auto] WRITE To WRITE Delay(DR) [Auto] WRITE To WRITE Delay(SR) [Auto] ---------------------------------------------- CPU Differential Amplitude [Auto] CPU Clock Skew [Auto] IOH Clock Skew [Auto] ------------ Extreme Engine Digi+ ------------ Digi+ PWR Mode [T-Balanced] PWM Volt. Control [Auto] Load-Line Calibration [Full Calibration] CPU Voltage OCP [Enabled] CPU PWM Frequency [Auto] Extreme OV [Disabled] Extreme OC [Auto] CPU Voltage [1.47500] CPU PLL Voltage [Auto] 1.4045 QPI/DRAM Core Voltage [1.30000] 1.3625 DRAM Bus Voltage [1.65625] Auto >DRAM REF Voltages---------------------------- DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA [Auto] DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA [Auto] DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB [Auto] DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB [Auto] DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC [Auto] DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHC [Auto] ---------------------------------------------- IOH Voltage [1.15275] IOH PCIE Voltage [Auto] ICH Voltage [1.15275] ICH PCIE Voltage [Auto] ---------- Spread Spectrum Control ----------- CPU Spread Spectrum [Auto] PCIE Spread Spectrum [Auto] ***on-board jumper dependant

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22074005/Xtr...ystems/4.6.PNG

Quote:

Originally Posted by zinsco

skuldarin, any suggestions on what to try with my rTL's?

Thanks to you two guys I finally passed linx. I think the biggest factor was the HT. That leads me to three questions.

1. I was able to pass prime95 with HT on at 4.6 but not linx. Once I turn HT off I can pass linx. How important is it to pass say 20 loops with linx if I can pass prime95. I mean other than benching and being able to post in the 4.5 club and stuff like that because linx is the requirement? Is it good enough, or in other words, is my system stable enough passing prime95.

2. Is a higher speed with HT off better than a lower speed with HT on or visa versa. For example, 4.6 HT off compared to 4.5 HT on.

3. Why the difference between prime95 and linx or what is the difference?

something to do with LinX and the libraries, it's not testing HT right and is pretty tough to get a 4c/8t or 6c/12t to pass on those speeds. it's been pretty difficult to do with HT on with high cpu speed AND LinX doesn't test 32nm chips at full potential either with HT on. Prime95 has been prooven to pull upto 10% more demand on 32nm chips.

as for your memory. alot of us have found a +2 / +1 different between RTL's gives the best stability. for you i'm not entirely sure i would start at around 57-59-60 or 61-63-64 for 2000mhz on there. for me it's 61-63-64 for 1866 on 12 gigs so you might get luckier with lower settings with your setup. for your tRL's put them all to normal and work your way up or down as needed. though if you're passing LinX with HT off, you really wont need to worry about this. if you want to pass with it on, this MAY help... but don't get your hopes up.

@ zinsco, does your cinenbench crash @ 4.6GHZ. Mine crashes every time i hit start and now it is rather annoying. Just wondering if someone else is having that issue or it is just me. Also you are taking a big hit with you uclk freq that low and qpi speed that low.

KILLER K - what's your settings?

Zinsco - i forgot to add that if you're passing at 1.475-1.488 vcore at 4.6-ish then you're fairing better than i. mine required 1.53 something to be stable in the 4.6 range. but honestly if you're trying for daily, i'd back down to 4.4 and try vcore around 1.38 to 1.41 with LCC 100%. i got mine down to 1.4125 vcore for 4.4 and the performance different between that and 4.6 is hardly much at all for daily use and you lower risk of degrading your chip over time.

@ skuldarin, i just tried his template and it crashed also. Not windows crashed, just cinebench only. All my other test runs fine. I think it is just cinebench being picky.

try not to copy everything exact to his template as stable voltages vary from chip to chip and mobo to mobo... well from product to product really.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_K

@ zinsco, does your cinenbench crash @ 4.6GHZ. Mine crashes every time i hit start and now it is rather annoying. Just wondering if someone else is having that issue or it is just me. Also you are taking a big hit with you uclk freq that low and qpi speed that low.

Haven't tried cinebench yet. I'll let you know when I do. Also, I thought Gulftown was only 1.5x the ram not 2x. Is it that Gulftown can go that low but at these speeds I should raise it to 2x and how high with qpi?

Quote:

Originally Posted by skuldarin

if you're trying for daily, i'd back down to 4.4 and try vcore around 1.38 to 1.41 with LCC 100%

Yeah, I plan on that. Trying to get 4.7 first. Actually, I'd like to get 4.8 before I back down. How high can we go on the vcore for benching and for how long before we cause damage? My temps are real good. My water cooling is doing really well. I'm real pleased with how it has held up, which makes it a bit of a shame if I can't really push it because of the cpu needing so much juice to stay stable. With my temps, I could maybe reach 5GHz.

Oh, and what is LLC?

^^
i meant LLC >.< tequila fingers don't do too well for spelling it seems.

for water cooling i've seen vcore upto 1.6 on 980's but even then that's pushing it and only on certain chips too. you've got a bit better chip than i have and you're getting stable at much lower voltage which is why your temps are so much better.

here's what i needed to get 4.7ghz (4.710ghz). this was also done with 2x uncore.

EDIT: only reason why my temps are so high is of a couple reasons... thinkin the EK block is a bit better for 1... 2, need to seperate my cpu in it's own loop instead of having one big loop on everything... and 3 get better luck next time with a couple chips that aren't so power hungry (i have two 980's, one more power hungry than the other, but both are starving).

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71...s/Jackpot2.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoson

Increase IOH and ICH voltage. I need 1.2v IOH and 1.16v ICH for my SLI setup.
I find pci-e freq does nothing for me unless I'm above 205bclk.

Also, you may need to increase QPI.

i've increased ioh to 1.24 and ich 1.20, and it seems to work much better, 985mhz with the two cards....that's ok for now, but the cpu is horribly unstable .... bsod very often while running 3dmark vantage .... :shakes: :shrug:

You have a multi rail PSU? Running cards and 8 pin mobo power off same rail?

Quote:

Originally Posted by p3gaz_001

i've increased ioh to 1.24 and ich 1.20, and it seems to work much better, 985mhz with the two cards....that's ok for now, but the cpu is horribly unstable .... bsod very often while running 3dmark vantage .... :shakes: :shrug:

Can you PM me a BIOS template and complete system configuration please?

-Raja

Quote:

Originally Posted by p3gaz_001

i've increased ioh to 1.24 and ich 1.20, and it seems to work much better, 985mhz with the two cards....that's ok for now, but the cpu is horribly unstable .... bsod very often while running 3dmark vantage .... :shakes: :shrug:

All that remains: QPI.
Remember, adding another GPU causes more QPI traffic(two gpu's talking to the cpu instead of just one).
Here's my template at 4.2 200bclk:

Code:

Target CPU Frequency 4200MHz Target DRAM Frequency 2005MHz LN2 Mode [Disabled]*** QPI Loadline Calibration [Enabled]*** Sync Mode [] AI Overclock Tuner [Manual] OC From CPU level Up [Auto] 2D Performance Booster [Disabled] CPU Ratio Setting [21.0] CPU Turbo Power Limit [Disabled] >CPU Configuration---------------------------- CPU Ratio Setting [21.0] C1E Support [Enabled] Hardware Prefetcher [Enabled] Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch [Enabled] MPS and ACPI MADT ordering [Modern ordering] Intel(R) Virtualization Tech [Enabled] CPU TM Function [Disabled] Execute Disable Bit [Enabled] Intel(R) HT Technology [Enabled] *Active Processor Cores [All] A20M [Disabled] *Intel(R) SpeedStep(TM) Tech [Enabled] Intel(R) C-STATE Tech [Enabled] C State package limit setting [Auto] C1 Auto Demotion [Auto] C3 Auto Demotion [Auto] ---------------------------------------------- BCLK Frequency [200] PCIE Frequency [100] DRAM Frequency [DDR3-2005MHz] UCLK Frequency [3608MHz] QPI Link Data Rate [7218] Memory Configuration Protect [Disabled] >DRAM Timing Control-------------------------- CAS# Latency [ 7 DRAM Clock] RAS# to CAS# Delay [ 9 DRAM Clock] RAS# PRE Time [ 7 DRAM Clock] RAS# ACT Time [24 DRAM Clock] RAS# to RAS# Delay [4] REF Cycle Time [88] WRITE Recovery Time [10] READ to PRE Time [6] FOUR ACT WIN Time [24] Back-To-BackCAS# Delay [Auto] Timing Mode [1N] Round Trip Latency on CHA [Auto] Round Trip Latency on CHB [Auto] Round Trip Latency on CHC [Auto] tRL CHA [-1] tRL CHB [-1] tRL CHC [-1] WRITE To READ Delay(DD) [Auto] WRITE To READ Delay(DR) [Auto] WRITE To READ Delay(SR) [Auto] READ To WRITE Delay(DD) [Auto] READ To WRITE Delay(DR) [Auto] READ To WRITE Delay(SR) [Auto] READ To READ Delay(DD) [Auto] READ To READ Delay(DR) [Auto] READ To READ Delay(SR) [Auto] WRITE To WRITE Delay(DD) [Auto] WRITE To WRITE Delay(DR) [Auto] WRITE To WRITE Delay(SR) [Auto] ---------------------------------------------- CPU Differential Amplitude [Auto] CPU Clock Skew [Auto] IOH Clock Skew [Auto] ------------ Extreme Engine Digi+ ------------ Digi+ PWR Mode [T-Balanced] PWM Volt. Control [Auto] Load-Line Calibration [Full Calibration] CPU Voltage OCP [Enabled] CPU PWM Frequency [500KHz] Extreme OV [Disabled] Extreme OC [Auto] CPU Voltage [1.37500] CPU PLL Voltage [1.25625] QPI/DRAM Core Voltage [1.35000] DRAM Bus Voltage [1.65625] >DRAM REF Voltages---------------------------- DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA [Auto] DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA [Auto] DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB [Auto] DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB [Auto] DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC [Auto] DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHC [Auto] ---------------------------------------------- IOH Voltage [1.20525] IOH PCIE Voltage [Auto] ICH Voltage [1.16600] ICH PCIE Voltage [Auto] ---------- Spread Spectrum Control ----------- CPU Spread Spectrum [Disabled] PCIE Spread Spectrum [Disabled] ***on-board jumper dependant

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raja@ASUS

Can you PM me a BIOS template and complete system configuration please?

-Raja

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoson

All that remains: QPI.
Remember, adding another GPU causes more QPI traffic(two gpu's talking to the cpu instead of just one).
Here's my template at 4.2 200bclk:

Code:

Target CPU Frequency 4200MHz Target DRAM Frequency 2005MHz LN2 Mode [Disabled]*** QPI Loadline Calibration [Enabled]*** Sync Mode [] AI Overclock Tuner [Manual] OC From CPU level Up [Auto] 2D Performance Booster [Disabled] CPU Ratio Setting [21.0] CPU Turbo Power Limit [Disabled] >CPU Configuration---------------------------- CPU Ratio Setting [21.0] C1E Support [Enabled] Hardware Prefetcher [Enabled] Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch [Enabled] MPS and ACPI MADT ordering [Modern ordering] Intel(R) Virtualization Tech [Enabled] CPU TM Function [Disabled] Execute Disable Bit [Enabled] Intel(R) HT Technology [Enabled] *Active Processor Cores [All] A20M [Disabled] *Intel(R) SpeedStep(TM) Tech [Enabled] Intel(R) C-STATE Tech [Enabled] C State package limit setting [Auto] C1 Auto Demotion [Auto] C3 Auto Demotion [Auto] ---------------------------------------------- BCLK Frequency [200] PCIE Frequency [100] DRAM Frequency [DDR3-2005MHz] UCLK Frequency [3608MHz] QPI Link Data Rate [7218] Memory Configuration Protect [Disabled] >DRAM Timing Control-------------------------- CAS# Latency [ 7 DRAM Clock] RAS# to CAS# Delay [ 9 DRAM Clock] RAS# PRE Time [ 7 DRAM Clock] RAS# ACT Time [24 DRAM Clock] RAS# to RAS# Delay [4] REF Cycle Time [88] WRITE Recovery Time [10] READ to PRE Time [6] FOUR ACT WIN Time [24] Back-To-BackCAS# Delay [Auto] Timing Mode [1N] Round Trip Latency on CHA [Auto] Round Trip Latency on CHB [Auto] Round Trip Latency on CHC [Auto] tRL CHA [-1] tRL CHB [-1] tRL CHC [-1] WRITE To READ Delay(DD) [Auto] WRITE To READ Delay(DR) [Auto] WRITE To READ Delay(SR) [Auto] READ To WRITE Delay(DD) [Auto] READ To WRITE Delay(DR) [Auto] READ To WRITE Delay(SR) [Auto] READ To READ Delay(DD) [Auto] READ To READ Delay(DR) [Auto] READ To READ Delay(SR) [Auto] WRITE To WRITE Delay(DD) [Auto] WRITE To WRITE Delay(DR) [Auto] WRITE To WRITE Delay(SR) [Auto] ---------------------------------------------- CPU Differential Amplitude [Auto] CPU Clock Skew [Auto] IOH Clock Skew [Auto] ------------ Extreme Engine Digi+ ------------ Digi+ PWR Mode [T-Balanced] PWM Volt. Control [Auto] Load-Line Calibration [Full Calibration] CPU Voltage OCP [Enabled] CPU PWM Frequency [500KHz] Extreme OV [Disabled] Extreme OC [Auto] CPU Voltage [1.37500] CPU PLL Voltage [1.25625] QPI/DRAM Core Voltage [1.35000] DRAM Bus Voltage [1.65625] >DRAM REF Voltages---------------------------- DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA [Auto] DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA [Auto] DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB [Auto] DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB [Auto] DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC [Auto] DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHC [Auto] ---------------------------------------------- IOH Voltage [1.20525] IOH PCIE Voltage [Auto] ICH Voltage [1.16600] ICH PCIE Voltage [Auto] ---------- Spread Spectrum Control ----------- CPU Spread Spectrum [Disabled] PCIE Spread Spectrum [Disabled] ***on-board jumper dependant

ok guys, thanks for the support, i'm doing a template for that right now!

i'd like to have 4.55ghz for benchmarks, (as before, single cpu) :rolleyes:

@zoson, i have a similar setup .... it worked fine till the sli comes. :shakes:

----------------------
so this is what i've got right now

Target CPU Frequency 3960MHz
Target DRAM Frequency 1804MHz

LN2 Mode [Disabled]***
QPI Loadline Calibration [Enabled]***

Sync Mode []
AI Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Setting [22.0]
CPU Turbo Power Limit [Disabled]

>CPU Configuration----------------------------

CPU Ratio Setting [22.0]
C1E Support [Disabled]
Hardware Prefetcher [Enabled]
Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch [Enabled]
MPS and ACPI MADT ordering [Modern ordering]
Intel(R) Virtualization Tech [Enabled]
CPU TM Function [Enabled]
Execute Disable Bit [Enabled]
Intel(R) HT Technology [Enabled]
*Active Processor Cores [All]
A20M [Disabled]
*Intel(R) SpeedStep(TM) Tech [Enabled]
Intel(R) C-STATE Tech [Enabled]
C State package limit setting [Auto]
C1 Auto Demotion [Enabled]
C3 Auto Demotion [Enabled]
----------------------------------------------

BCLK Frequency [180]
PCIE Frequency [101]
DRAM Frequency [DDR3-1804MHz]
UCLK Frequency [3608MHz]
QPI Link Data Rate [Auto]

Memory Configuration Protect [Disabled]

>DRAM Timing Control--------------------------
CAS# Latency [ 6 DRAM Clock]
RAS# to CAS# Delay [ 8 DRAM Clock]
RAS# PRE Time [ 6 DRAM Clock]
RAS# ACT Time [22 DRAM Clock]
RAS# to RAS# Delay [6]
REF Cycle Time [88]
WRITE Recovery Time [12]
READ to PRE Time [8]
FOUR ACT WIN Time [24]
Back-To-BackCAS# Delay [Auto]

Timing Mode [1N]
Round Trip Latency on CHA [Auto]
Round Trip Latency on CHB [Auto]
Round Trip Latency on CHC [Auto]
tRL CHA [-1]
tRL CHB [-1]
tRL CHC [-1]

WRITE To READ Delay(DD) [Auto]
WRITE To READ Delay(DR) [Auto]
WRITE To READ Delay(SR) [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(DD) [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(DR) [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(SR) [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(DD) [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(DR) [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(SR) [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(DD) [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(DR) [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(SR) [Auto]
----------------------------------------------

CPU Differential Amplitude [Auto]
CPU Clock Skew [Auto]
IOH Clock Skew [Auto]
------------ Extreme Engine Digi+ ------------
Digi+ PWR Mode [T-Balanced]
PWM Volt. Control [7V]
Load-Line Calibration [Full Calibration]
CPU Voltage OCP [Enabled]
CPU PWM Frequency [AUTO]

Extreme OV [Disabled]
Extreme OC [Auto]

CPU Voltage [1.25625]
CPU PLL Voltage [1.65625]
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage [1.43750]
DRAM Bus Voltage [1.61650]

>DRAM REF Voltages----------------------------
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA [Auto]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB [Auto]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHC [Auto]
----------------------------------------------

IOH Voltage [1.24550]
IOH PCIE Voltage [Auto]

ICH Voltage [1.23225]
ICH PCIE Voltage [1.56350]

---------- Spread Spectrum Control -----------
CPU Spread Spectrum [auto]
PCIE Spread Spectrum [auto]

*-----------*

this is a 4ghz cfg for normal using ..... from here i'd like to know where to start to get stable 4.5ghz just for benchmarks, if that's possible! thank you every one!

6-8-6-22-88 T1 is pretty good timings for 1800 :clap:, mine wont touch CL6 past 1730
i also didn't think about needing more qpi due to your sli setup. i forget about that all the time with having a dual gpu card :shakes: probably why i need 1.375-1.38v for VTT and more ICH voltage even though i've been keeping my mem speeds near stock.

Quote:

Originally Posted by skuldarin

6-8-6-22-88 T1 is pretty good timings for 1800 :clap:, mine wont touch CL6 past 1730
i also didn't think about needing more qpi due to your sli setup. i forget about that all the time with having a dual gpu card :shakes: probably why i need 1.375-1.38v for VTT and more ICH voltage even though i've been keeping my mem speeds near stock.

ye i was suprised for those timings, i'm goin to RS those timings in a second time.
Raja is helping me out to go get this 975 running perfectly with 2 580. at this moment i'm at 167x24 = 4362mhz and i've passed 5 linx loop ..... :up:

more updates later! :up:

Quote:

Originally Posted by skuldarin

try not to copy everything exact to his template as stable voltages vary from chip to chip and mobo to mobo... well from product to product really.

Yes i know that. I was just trying to see if his would allow me to make cinebench work. As all my other benchmarks and apps works fine. Like i said i think cinebench is just showing its age really now. Hopefully he will run it and let me know what he finds out.