I'm still not prime stable on it yet which disapoints me. I think now might be the time to try a more upt o date BIOS than the stock :lol: :rofl:
I'll try running 3D Mark 06, see if I can get a run out of her :P
~Bex
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I'm still not prime stable on it yet which disapoints me. I think now might be the time to try a more upt o date BIOS than the stock :lol: :rofl:
I'll try running 3D Mark 06, see if I can get a run out of her :P
~Bex
Stepping# 3845B258
Cpu Cooling = Ultra 120 Copper Lapped + Washer Mod
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1.../4GhzStabe.png
How these temps looking, ambient is 25oC
06 is actually quite hard to pass, atleast on my cpu's. The latest F9 bios's works great for me.
Yep, Bex nice low vcore for that.
And Sniper that is one of the coolest running cpus I have seen esp 4.75 prime run with low 70s at that vcore. And nice low vcore as well on 4.4.
You guys are making me want to buy a new chip just to play with.
I was actually suprised it needed that much vcore at 4746. Had several runs at lower vcore fail at anything from 30min to one at 7 hours.
I also think that cpu-z is underreporting the vcore on ud5/extreme. When I compare vcore/temp on this extreme and my DFI T3eH8, cpu-z shows much higher vcore on the DFI, event if oc and temps are equal.
Mine scales about .03v below yours, 4.4 at 1.34 prime stable, 4.5 at 1.38, but to bench 4.75 like chess test which loads all 8 cores like prime, I need 1.5vcore, so 1.45 is pretty good for prime stable at that. Scaling goes to crap on mine between 4.6 and 4.7.
I actually checked both my wifes board and mine few months ago with fluke multimeter (after killing 2 sticks ddr3 in 2 separate batches of ram running at stock settings), both x58 extremes, her vdimm, vcore is slightly above board sensors (which cpuz reads) and mine was slightly below, but both very close...somewhere had it written down but was a few months ago. But even within same brand name, same board, there will be some small variability...components being components.
Ok, thanks, maybe the DFI is wrong. The 4746 run was with HT off, max I'v done so far with 8 cores is 4.6 at 1.408.
ex58-extreme here. bios F9d, 920 D0 on water.
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4852/220ap.jpg
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/7950/4410a.jpg
Can't get 3D Mark to finish.... it stops working on the CPU test....
Really not sure what I need to change to get this stable. If I increase the CPU voltage it BSOD's, QPI increase and it BSOD's, increase PCI-E to 104 or with voltage increased it doesn't boot or boots to loading then black screens....
GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD4P
>>>> Advanced CPU Features <<<<
CPU Clock Ratio*..............................:20
CPU Frequency .....(Ghz)...................:4,400Mhz (4,600Mhz Turbo)
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech..................:Enabled
CPU Cores Enabled............................:ALL
CPU Multi Threading..........................:Enabled
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)...................:Enabled
C3/C6/C7 State Support....................:Disabled
CPU Thermal Monitor.........................: Disabled
CPU EIST Function............................: Disabled
Virtualization Technology...................: Disabled
Bi-Directional PROCHOT.....................: Disabled
>>>> Uncore & QPI Features <<<<
QPI Link Speed*..............................:x36
QPI Link Speed* .............(Ghz)....... :7.59
Uncore Frequency...........................:x16
Uncore Frequency..............(Mhz).... :3,072
Isochronous Support.......................:Enabled
>>>>> Standard Clock Control <<<<
Base Clock (BCLK) Control*..............:Enabled
BCLK Frequency (Mhz)*...................:220
PCI Exxpress Frequency (Mhz)...........:103
C.I.A.2..........................................: Disabled
>>>>> Standard Clock Control <<<<
CPU Clock Drive (mV).......................:700mV
PCI Express Clock Drive (mV)............:700mV
CPU Clock Skew (ps)........................:0ps
IOH Clock Skew (ps)........................:0ps
>>>> Advanced Dram Features <<<<
Performance Enhance......................:Turbo
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.)........:Profile1
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)........:x8
Memory Frequency (Mhz).................:1,7XXMhz
DRAM Timing Selectable (sPD) ..........:Quick
>>>> CPU Voltages <<<<
LoadLine Calibration.....................:Disabled
CPU Vcore.................................:1.3625v
QPI/VTT Voltage.........................:1.28v
CPU PLL.....................................:1.800v
>>>> MCH/ICH Voltrage <<<<
PCIE.........................................:1.50 0v
QPI PLL.....................................:1.100v
IOH Core...................................:1.200v
ICH I/O.....................................:1.500v
ICH Core...................................:1.100v
>>>> Dram <<<<
DRAM Voltage............................:1.640v
Everything else is set to auto at the moment...
Advice welcome :)
~Bex
PS. @ Bluntsmoker - just for your amusement :P
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...esGigabyte.jpg
Edit: At Bex, I need ~1.41 vcore cpuz load to bench 4600 3D, even though I can boot to 4600 with 1.3x vcore . If LLC was disabled that is probably around 1.46v core in bios, along with 1.36 qpi/vtt. Also since your ram will be OCed (assuming 1600mhz may be wrong though) you might need to bump up dram v 1.68 or so, or not. Also I would run cpu clock drive and pcie express at stock values, you have them undervolted (you have clear "cmos values" instead of "load optimal settings" values). I never tried benching with higher pcie mhz, since it makes mine less stable, but I dont use higher bclk since i have higher multi, so have to defer to those with i920 on that one.
My i950 on GB ex58 does not like ioh volts or cpu Pll. My i940 seemed to do better with increasing them, but my i950 all they do is cause instability. Guess just one of those chip to chip variables, or mobo to mobo variables. I was able to walk down vcore needed to get 5ghz validated on water with 18C ambients (computer rad near a/c vent) to 1.58. Before it was very unstable at even 1.63 using higher than stock ioh/cpu pll. But spi still wasnt happening, need ln2 for that.
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/5498/5ghzwater.jpg
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=707206
Nice rge, never got 5GHz with mine. Highest I'v been is 4810 SP1M on the DFI.
Did a quick LinX run to show that it needs lover vcore (~0.03v) than 8 hours prime. Temps not comparable, this run has higher ambient(23), vtt, mem and uncore.
http://img.techpowerup.org/090913/4746 linx run.jpg
Bluntsmoker or anyone with same setup, have you managed to run the dominators higher than 1600MHz?
I'm currently on these settings, any suggestion on how to achive 10*180 is welcome.
Everything else missing on auto or default...Quote:
Advanced CPU Features
CPU Clock Ratio*..............................:20
CPU Frequency .....(Ghz)...................:3,600Mhz (3,780Mhz Turbo)
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech..................:Enabled
CPU Cores Enabled............................:ALL
CPU Multi Threading..........................:Enabled
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)...................:Enabled
C3/C6/C7 State Support....................: Disabled
CPU Thermal Monitor.........................: Disabled
CPU EIST Function............................: Enabled
Virtualization Technology...................: Disabled
Bi-Directional PROCHOT.....................: Enabled (what is this? )
Uncore & QPI Features
QPI Link Speed*..............................:auto
Uncore Frequency...........................:auto
Isochronous Support.......................:Enabled
Standard Clock Control
BCLK Frequency (Mhz)*...................:180
Advanced Dram Features
Performance Enhance......................:Turbo
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.)........:Profile1
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)........:x8
Memory Frequency (Mhz).................:1,440Mhz
DRAM Timing Selectable (sPD) ..........:auto
CPU Voltages
LoadLine Calibration.....................: Disabled
CPU Vcore.................................: Normal (0.93 idle/ 1.168 load by cpuZ)
QPI/VTT Voltage.........................:1.3v
DRAM Voltage............................:1.66v (Defaults 1.66 with xmp enabled)
I m perfectly fine @3.8 and dont need to get any higher, i just dont feel good about running the sticks @1440 that's below factoy defaults... :/
Is it possible to go 1800MHz (10x180) with lower timings maybe like 9-9-9-24 ?
These are the results i get with the above settings under load...
LoL!!
You weirdo!!! :P
I love my hardware, but not in that kinda way! :D
Bex, have you got waterblocks on your mobo?
Got any pics so I can see how it looks?
@Javanese, mate, I have tried to get my Dominators to run faster than 1600MHz, but they just don't want to play with me at all.. :(
I think I had them up to 1680MHz, but with loose timings, so it was a pointless exercise tbh.
However, at 1600MHz I can tighten the timings up a little to 8-7-7-21-1T.
I have v3.1, I have talked to others who have v3.2 Dominators, and they managed to get nice clocks out of theirs..
TBH though mate, I haven't really tried to push anymore than 1.65v VDimm through mine because of that dumb Intel warning thing, even though I see folk on here pushing quite a bit more than 1.65v, I am to scared incase something bad happens...
But supposedly if you keep the distance between QPI and VDimm to 0.5v it is safe enough.
I recon if you were to go higher on VDimm you could probably get nice clocks out of them..
Hi mate,
Can you explain to me what those CPu/IOH Clock Skews actually do?
I have been experimenting with CPU Clock Skew, I currently have it set to 100ps, and it has allowed me to drop my Vcore down a couple of increments, and also I can now run my Vtt at 1.215v.
I tested my o/c in the past running these voltages before I had adjusted the clock skew, and it would BSOD after the 2nd pass of LinX before, but someone suggested trying 100ps CPU clock skew, so I did, and now it is Prime stable (8hours) and LinX stable to, I have been running with these lower voltages for about 5 days now I think it is, and it has been solid.
But I would really like to know what these settings do exactly, and how I can use them to gain higher clocks that are stable.
Bex, have you tried setting CPU Clock Drive to 900mV, and PCIe Clock Drive to 800mV, also try setting Performance Enhance to Standard, Raise QPI/Vtt to 1.335v, and you might also want to try IOH Core @ 1.160v and QPI PLL at 1.160v.
I have been playing with that CPU Clock Skew setting as well, and it seems to have allowed me to use lower Vcore and Vtt than I could previously, I have CPU Clock Skew set to 100ps.
I'm not sure what either clock drive or skew actually does, but they do help with high bclk on my mb. The two W3520 I have tested in this mb reacts quite differently on the skew values, one likes alot, the other none.
When trying to reach high bclk, I get a kind of woodoo feeling adjusting the drive/skew values. Its hard seeing a direct effekt of changes made to theese values, so its more of a feel for what values worked best when I reached a new level of bclk/stability.
Hicookie or other people here may know more on this though.
Haha. Before you call your OC lame, just take a moment to think about those of us who are unlucky enough to still be stuck with C0's. Mine needs 1.35v in windows to boot at ~4.1GHz, and 1.2v to boot with 3.68GHz. I don't consider your oc to be lame at all.
Also before anyone laughs at me for owning a 940, it turned up on my doorstep when I was expecting a 920 and after only paying for a 920. I thought I had hit the jackpot, how wrong I was.
lol....so many users on here well past 4ghz, was expecting some form 'lameoid' comment ;)
Bonus on getting the 940 over 920 (even tho the clocks aint so good) but why not sell it and get a 920 D0?? Surely the 940 will bring in enough for a 920 D0 and some change??
Thanx Blunt.
In order to run memory @1600, anyone knows the advantages/disadvantages* of running the cpu @19x200=3800MHz as opposed to 21*180=3780MHz?
(*not counting the idle speed @12*200 instead of 12*180 as a big disadvantage)
Where do you think i might need more power in order to achive this?
I would do as Johnny suggested, sell the 940 on to someone and use the cash to get a D0 920.
@javanese, why don't you try for 4GHz mate?
Seems to be the target for the majority of i920 users I know.
Most D0's will do 4GHz without breaking a sweat, though there are still the odd chip that can't do 4GHz..
The one that I had before my current one was only able to do 3.8GHz, and I have talked to several guys on OcUK forums that can't do 4GHz as well, but like I said, the majority of them can do it no problem at all.
Maybe i ll give it a try in the future but for now main reason is that i'm very happy with my volts, especially the "normal" option of vcore. (see the my above post 3813 for full settings)
I m afraid i ll need to juggle a lot with the power options for the big 4, so not that excited about it. :)
3.8 suits me just fine, except for the damn rams :D which frustrates me to run below factory spec.
Any opinion on 21*180 vs 19*200;
Cheers for your time and answers mate :)
@ Bluntsmoker - hope this is suffice :D
And what's wrong with me hugging my hardware? Don't you know it makes it more likely to go faster? :P
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...D4P-Blocks.jpg
I'll try playing with the settings tongiht, see what I can get out of her :)
Damn it Bex, that board looks sweet with those blocks fitted!!
Though I much prefer the HK 3 copper CPU block than the XSPC Delta 3, but still, it looks very nice indeed!
I'm in the process of setting up my first ever custom loop, and I had only planned on watercooling my CPU and GPU, but after seeing this pic, it has made me seriously consider putting my board under water to, as it looks so much cooler with those blocks, instead of the stock passive heatsinks.
One thing though Bex, is that mobo lying directly onto a carpet?!?!
Doesn't the thought of static electricity worry you??
Did you fit everything yourself, yes?
I have got just about everything I need to setup my loop now, I'm just waiting to get my HK 3 block, and then I will be ready to start, but I am actually quite frightened about starting it, as I am scared incase I damage my GPU when I get round to removing the stock cooler, as I read that the GTX280 cooler can be a real PITA to remove, but I have read up quite a lot of stuff over the last couple of months, preparing myself for this, so I am sure everything will be just fine!!!
I think I will stick with only cooling my CPU and GPU to begin with, and if everything goes smoothly, I will buy those mobo blocks and get my board under water to, as it would look really good having the entire system water cooled!!
It will have to be those acetal top blocks that I go for as well, as I don't really like the look of the acrylic ones.
@javanese, I am unsure about the 21x180 vs 19x200 thing mate, I guess having higher Bclk should give you slightly better performance though, as QPI and Uncore speeds will be slightly higher??
Maybe someone else can chime in here though, as I am not 100% sure man.
Sorry for going off topic, but does anyone know if S3 Sleep works properly with the F9e BIOS? I'm still on the F6e bios and was thinking of updating...
hi
i have watercool a few motherboards (nforce 680 did need it) but the x58 and the ud5 do not seem to get that hot and not enought to effect over clocking
the ioh (NB heat sink) will need a little air flow when using a water cooled cpu
UD5 with F9d extreme bios
Air : Cocage true spirit with papst 2200rpm
About 20c ambient
http://img.techpowerup.org/090916/062.jpg
@ Fosco
That's some very nice figures on air. Push/pull config right?
I've honestly thought hard about doing that and as much as I would like to get to 4GHz on lower voltages than what my 940 will, the times that I have clocked to that speed have not given me anything in the way of better vantage scores (this pc's only purpose is for gaming). I gained an extra 400 points on top of my regular result which to me is nothing, so I am happy for the time being.
In saying all that, if I could sell my 940 for the same price of a new 920, I may just sell the thing. Only problem now is that everyone has cracked on to the 920 D0's being a much better chip, looking quickly on ebay, the 940's look like they are going for half the price of a new 920. Whilst that would help, I really don't see the point in spending even more on this set up when it does everything just as well as when it is clocked to 4.1GHz paired with my now smallish GTX 260's.
@Bex, phew, I am glad that there was cardboard underneath that mobo!!
You have definitely inspired me to get those blocks for my UD5, as it looks so much nicer than the stock heatsinks.
Can I ask you what your entire loop consists of?
As I am a little worried that what I am using won't be good enough for my system to keep the temps nice and low.
Here is what I will be using in mine:
XSPC DDC 10w Pro Pump/Reservoir
Aqua Computer 120.3 Rad
XSPC RS240 rad
Heatkiller 3 Copper CPU Block
EK FC-GTX280 block and backplate
DTek 1/2" High Flow barbs (I will be changing these fittings out for some Bitspower compression fittings at some point)
XSPC 7/16" ID 5/8" OD White Tubing
Akasa Apache 120mm fans
I will only be using my triple rad to begin with, but I will be getting my Silverstone TJ07 next month, which has much more room for watercooling, so I will fit my XSPC rad into the loop as well which should help with the cooling.
This should cope with a GTX280 and my overclocked i920 right?
@nipper, I didn't realize that the 940's were getting sold for such low prices, I thought you would probably be able to sell it on for a good bit more than the price of a D0 920, but I just checked ebay there, and from what I could see they are selling for around £260 mostly, which is just a little more than the cost of a D0 920.
@Sniper, that is a really good chip you have there, I wish that I could have gotten a Bloomfield Xeon instead of another 920..
Hey guys, I just decided to pull the trigger on a new i7 machine and and first glance over i picked this board, I will spend some time reading this thread, which will take some time but any heads up for buying this board?
Here in Australia, the buy-it-now price for a 940 on average tend to be around $400 - $500 for a brand new chip. When I purchased my "920" the 940's were $1000.
Remember that my chip would be 2nd hand, there is no hope that I could get anywhere near the 400 - 500 dollar mark as anyone with half a brain would buy the new chip over the 2nd hand one. The 940's with no buy it now price are struggling to hit half of what the news ones are going for from a quick observation and they are still brand new chips, not 2nd hand.
It's a pity as I would very likely upgrade otherwise. Not to worry anyway as my impulsiveness to have new toys will overwhelm me at some point.
Hey guys, I need some help getting stable. I am trying for 4GHz with a 920 D0 on the UD4P. I was able to pass 12 hours of small ffts P95, but I can not pass large ffts at all. So I started increasing QPI/VTT and IOH one at a time trying to find a setting. But, I just can't get it. I went up to 1.455v but that didn't work.
Maybe it has to do with the memory timings? I am running OCZ obsidian 1600 kit at the standard timings, but I left the sub timings at auto. Maybe I need to adjust those? Advice is welcome as I have no experience with that.
Here are my settings:
GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD4P bios F9e
>>>> Advanced CPU Features <<<<
CPU Clock Ratio*..............................:20
CPU Frequency .....(Ghz)...................:3,820Mhz (4,011Mhz Turbo)
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech..................:Enabled
CPU Cores Enabled............................:ALL
CPU Multi Threading..........................: Enabled
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)...................: Disabled
C3/C6/C7 State Support....................: Disabled
CPU Thermal Monitor.........................: Enabled
CPU EIST Function............................: Disabled
Virtualization Technology...................: Enabled
Bi-Directional PROCHOT.....................: Enabled
>>>> Uncore & QPI Features <<<<
QPI Link Speed*..............................:x36
QPI Link Speed* .............(Ghz)....... :6.87
Uncore Frequency...........................:x16
Uncore Frequency..............(Mhz).... :3,056
Isochronous Support.......................:Enabled
>>>>> Standard Clock Control <<<<
Base Clock (BCLK) Control*..............:Enabled
BCLK Frequency (Mhz)*...................:191
PCI Exxpress Frequency (Mhz)...........:100
C.I.A.2..........................................: Disabled
>>>>> Standard Clock Control <<<<
CPU Clock Drive (mV).......................:800mV
PCI Express Clock Drive (mV)............:900mV
CPU Clock Skew (ps)........................:0ps
IOH Clock Skew (ps)........................:0ps
>>>> Advanced Dram Features <<<<
Performance Enhance......................:Standard
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.)........:
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)........:x8
Memory Frequency (Mhz).................:1,528Mhz
DRAM Timing Selectable (sPD) ..........:Expert
CAS Latency Time ..........................: 9
tRCD ............................................: 9
tRP ..............................................: 9
tRAS ............................................: 24
Command Rate (CMD) .....................: 1
Subtimings ....................................:AUTO
>>>> CPU Voltages <<<<
LoadLine Calibration.....................: Enabled
CPU Vcore.................................:1.28750v
QPI/VTT Voltage.........................:1.395v
CPU PLL.....................................:1.840v
>>>> MCH/ICH Voltrage <<<<
PCIE.........................................:1.50 0v
QPI PLL.....................................:1.180v
IOH Core...................................:1.160v
ICH I/O.....................................:1.500v
ICH Core...................................:1.100v
>>>> Dram <<<<
DRAM Voltage............................:1.660v
DRAM Termination ......................: AUTO
Rest of settings on Auto
Here is a shot of the subtimings:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a37...subtimings.jpg
Again, I want to get this stable but am stuck. I saw bluntsmoker was running bios F7. Maybe I should ditch this F9e and try F7 out.
Try disabling VT.
I recommend that you upgrade to F10d BIOS as anything after F9c didn't do so well (for me that is).
Hi all, i've some questions, i recently got a UD5 with 920 and geil 2133mhz 9-9-9-28 2T dualchan kit memory, tried the latest f9e bios it won't work with 1866mhz 8-8-8-24 1T. I flash to a older version f7, should i try other newer bios like f8s or f9a/d? whats the best bios for UD5 now?
Got board whilst trying to boot with 4.7Ghz and decided to try out some things... Seems setting your board to "standard" is better than "turbo" or "extreme" at stock speeds, going to do a comparision with higher overclocks but I think it's going to be the same...
Interestingly though, "turbo" dishes out the same results as "standard"
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...i1Standard.jpg
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...Pi1Turbo-1.jpg
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...Pi1Extreme.jpg
~Bex
Can someone tell me how to get rid of the 222BCLK restriction problem? 223bclk wont boot whatever I do.
There was some bios and soldering method? can someone pm me that or to this thread, thanks!
Yeah hicookie will sort you out :)
I'm waiting on a response too so I can have a go!
By the way, if anyones interested, the SuperPi testing is getting interesting with the Standard, Turbo and Extreme settings :D
~Bex
Water Cooling :)
Still working on 4.6Ghz being stable but meh, thought I'd do some inbetween testing for now :D
~Bex
pic was already posted, but...
http://wright-pc.com/pyr0/UD5/EX58_M..._clock_mod.jpg
hope it helps
I got given this mod a while back, but I took one look at the size of them resistors and thought "%&£* that!!", that pic is probably slightly larger than the resistors on the mobo..
I suck with a soldering iron, so I wouldn't dare try a mod like this.
One thing though, I was able to break the 222 Bclk wall with my board, not by much, 227 or thereabouts.
I did this by setting Bclk in the BIOS to 222, booting into Windows, and then using SetFSB in baby steps until I hit 227MHz.
I tried for more but it just wouldn't go any higher, my system kept locking up beyond 227...
Wish that I knew someone who was capable of performing this mod, as I would get them to do it on one of my UD5's so I could do some serious overclocking..
TBH though, unless you are using extreme cooling, there really isn't any need to perform this mod really..
Some more results with Pi and Standard / Turbo / Extreme settings!
At 4Ghz "Turbo" mode does indeed benifet the CPU's performance :D
Theory tested with both 191 x 21 (TB) and 200 x 20 (TB Off) with 191 x 21 coming out on top by - wait for it - 0.001s :rofl:
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...i1Standard.jpg
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...1SPi1Turbo.jpg
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...Pi1Extreme.jpg
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...i1Standard.jpg
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...0SPi1Turbo.jpg
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...Pi1Extreme.jpg
I intend on testing further - will look at 4.2Ghz seeing as how this is the next popular OC level and 4.4Ghz then if I can, 4.6Ghz - at some point the extreme has gotta marginally come top surely? :)
~Bex
PS. Ignore volts - they are set to auto for testing atm - so but on both tests they remained the same throughout the process (TB on was 0.76v more-ish)
Hi everyone. I'm picking up a GA-EX58-UD5 thanks in no small part to your contributions. :)
You are leaving Vcore on auto for this testing Bex?
When I first got my X58/i7 system, I tried a little o/c to 3.2GHz, and I left the Vcore on auto, and when I checked it in CPUZ it had set it right up to 1.3500v!!
I only need like 1.165v for 3.2GHz iirc!
The motherboard overvolts like crazy when things are left on auto, I really don't think it's a good idea tbh...
Blunt did you finally get a 200*21 steady settings setup?
Post them if you did mate. :)
Results for 4.2Ghz!!!
Since breaking the 200BCLK "Extreme" setting shows it's colours and brings 210x20 above turbo boost! So less volts, less heat and more performance! (winning by 0.016s)
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...i1Standard.jpg
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...0SPi1Turbo.jpg
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...Pi1Extreme.jpg
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...i1Standard.jpg
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...0SPi1Turbo.jpg
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...Pi1Extreme.jpg
Hope that helps some more people - testing 4.4Ghz but I've got some wierd results so far....
~Bex
So my GA-EX58-UD5 showed up today i got it installed however something is not working. It lights all up but no display to the monitor. The digets show 69 which in the manual says "Turn on L2 cache". After a while it turns to 6F which is "1. Initialize floppy controller
2. Set up floppy related fields in 40:hardware".
Any tips?
I'll be setting up my new UD5 mobo with an i7 950 and a 6GB Patriot Viper PC3-12800 C8 kit in a couple of days .. and I was wondering how stable the F9E BIOS was .. Otherwise i'll just make sure I'm using the F7 BIOS that supports the 950.
Hey guys, I've been running the UD5 for over a month now, and I love it. The past week I've been getting Thermalright stuff for the board. I have a HR-05 IFX non-sli for the IOH, a HR-05 SLi for the Southbridge, and the HR-09 U and S Trype3 for the mosfets.
Ok, I already installed both HR-05 heatsinks, then when I was about to install the HR-09U Type3 on the mosfets close to the I/O port, the damn thing can't fit! But for the HR-09 S Type3 for the upper mosfets is fine. So I checked the Thermalright site just to double check if I bought the right coolers for the mosfets, and yes, it's stated on the Motherboard Compatibility List: http://www.thermalright.com/new_a_pa.../05-09-mcl.htm
I measured the heatsinks for the mosfets of the stock heatpipe assembly and found out the measurements were the same as the HR-09 type4. That really sucks! I'm pissed off about it. Especially that it states on the list that it's compatible...but no it's not. :SIGH:...
Got a new D0 here batch# 3918A478 for my UD5, can i have some help on the overclock here with it? what bios should i use and what configs?
I wanted to go at least 4200 with this one.
Thanks
I updated the bios to the F9e and now just need the settings for it does anyone have the settings for the UD5 that coul take me to 4.2 at least?
Thank you
Thinking of buying UD5 and a question started to bother me.
What BIOS version does UD5s come these days from factory? F3?
Asking cause i want to get i7 920 D0 or even Xeon W3520 and was wondering if it would work with them on stock BIOS.
Waiting for that same thing from bluntsmoker :D
Bought mine on May and came with the F4.
Had to update to F7 for the "support for the new i7 D0 cpu stepping".
I wouldnt worry though, mine booted with no problem with the D0 and the F4 bios. Even installed vista and drivers before i update to F7.
Ok i tried out these settings but they didnt work for me everytime it tried to boot it would say "BOOTMSG is missing" so i tried to put to vcore to 1.38v it would get to the Welcome screen and freeze and give me the blue screen with the numbers counting up to 100 and would restart on it self, any ideas?
CPU Clock Ratio [20x]
Advanced CPU Features [Press Enter]:
CPU Clock Ratio [20x]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech [Enabled]
CPU Cores Enabled [All]
CPU Multi Threading [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) [Enabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function [Enabled]
Virtualization Technology [Disabled]
Bi-Directional PROCHOT [Disabled]
Uncore & QPI Features [Press Enter]:
QPI Link Speed [x36]
Uncore Frequency [x19]
Isonchronous Frequency [Enabled]
Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]:
standard clock control
Base Clock (BCLK) Control [Enabled]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) [200]
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) [AUTO]
C.I.A.2 [Disabled]
advanced clock control
CPU Clock Drive [ 800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive [ 900mV]
CPU Clock Skew [ 100ps]
IOH Clock Skew [ 0ps]
Performance Enhance [Turbo]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.) [Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) [x8]
DRAM Timing Selectable (sPD) [Manual]
Channel A
CAS Latency Time 8 [9]
tRCD 8 [9]
tRP 8 [9]
tRAS 20 [24]
[1]
Channel B
CAS Latency Time 8 [9]
tRCD 8 [9]
tRP 8 [9]
tRAS 20 [24]
[1]
Channel C
CAS Latency Time 8 [9]
tRCD 8 [9]
tRP 8 [9]
tRAS 20 [24]
[1]
Advanced Voltage Control [Press Enter]:
Load Line Calibration [Enabled]
CPU Vcore 1.15v [1.28750v]
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v [1.320v]
CPU PLL 1.800v [1.840v]
MCH
PCIE 1.500v [1.540v]
QPI PLL 1.100v [1.140v]
IOH Core 1.100v [1.200v]
ICH I/O 1.500v [AUTO]
ICH Core 1.1v [1.200v]
DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v [1.660v]
DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Well some suggestions that come to mind ...
Try an Uncore Frequency of x16 and leave Performance Enhance on standard.
Maybe try a DRAM Timing Selectable (sPD) on auto too.
I leave Load Line Calibration disabled.
Dont know what that CPU Clock Skew option does... why put it on 100ps and not leave it on default?
Unfortunately cant help you with the volts. Someone more experianced needed.
@ javanese, what is it you want to know mate?
If it is my voltages, they are set to 1.29v Vcore, and 1.275v Vtt, IOH Core is at 1.140v, QPI PLL @ 1.140v, 1.300v CPU PLL, and 1.66v VDimm.
CPU clock drive 800mV, PCIE clock drive 900mV.
I also have CPU clock skew at 100ps, as this really helped get my 4.2GHz o/c stable.
I spent about 4 days trying like crazy to get this clocks stable, I had even tested with my Vcore right up to 1.35v, and Vtt at 1.415v, but it would crash instantly with those voltages, I really was starting to think my chip wasn't capable of running at 4.2, but I think it was someone on here who suggested I tried lowering my voltages as having them to high can also cause things to be unstable, so I started playing around with lower voltages, and I finally found a stable o/c with those settings above.
If there are any other settings you aren't sure about, just ask me.
Maybe I'm just lucky, but overclocking up to 4.2 ghz I just raise the bclk to 200, cpu voltage @ 1.281, qpi/vtt @ 1.24 in the bios. I upped the dram voltage to get better timings, but with everything except cpuv & qpi on auto worked fine to get into windows. Stable.
For 4.4 Ghz cpuV goes to 1.387, qpi/vtt @ 1.3 & I bump the IOH to 1.2. All other setting can be auto (I do set my dram up manually for better performance).
Here some more things i 'd care for your suggestion mate.
*Those v settings are with LLC disabled, right?
Surprised with that 1.300v CPU PLL as it defaults at 1.800 when auto.
*Do you keep XMP enabled (if not, why?) and everything memory wise on auto?
*CPU clock drive 800mV and PCIE clock drive 900mV are the defaults on mine, weren't them on yours?
I'm a little afraid of that cpu skew option as I dont have the slightest clue what it is, but if it didnt blow up your mobo :D will give it a try too.
*What are your QPI Link Speed and Uncore Frequency settings?
Much obliged for your time sir :up:
Will take my "four days" experimenting too and report back if successful.:)
Still waiting a message from hicookie, because the solder picture was poseted I still needed a special bios? EX58 i7 UD5.
Anyway im having loads of trouble getting this sucker processor stable...
i7 920 D0 should be one of the best 920-s out there, infact the second best heh, It did 240bclk with turbo on on 1.500v! And 4500MHz on 1.35v! But im having trouble clocking this processor on the UD5, I cant get it to windows even on 1.2v at 4GHz, something is wrong me thinks, and i think that the UD5 is utter Bull:banana::banana::banana::banana: for overclocking. Im guessing the big problem lies in bclk, 200x20 is not stable on 1.2v but 190x20 is. I think I am gonna get the EVGA Classified and gonna keep this baby on 4500MHz 24\7 on 1.30v or smth. Im pretty baffeled about UD5-s poor performance, and the fact that I had to find out that bclk dilemma like this was horrid, I just should have kept my old ASUS P6T until Classified... jeez.
edit:
OMG, your settings work for me :o Im now stable on 200bclk with 1.25v vcore, ill try to lower it some more, but that helped BIG TIME! I would have never guessed to up the 100ps marker and never ever would have guessed to but cpu pll to 1.300v!! Also thx for the IOH volts! Before I got to windows and then when I saw desktop icons it froze or it didnt get even that far. Gonna go do some more tests now but this looks like im gonna get my 4500MHz 24\7!!! Hench, i really dont need the Classified so quick now, but then again I do want to bench over 5GHz with watercooling.
FPO SLBEJ 3912B351
Hi everybody. I'm new on this forum. Really glad I found it too. I just finished a new build with an Core I7 920 D0 CPU and the Gigabyte EX58-UD5 Motherboard with Bios F9e. It all water cooled too. My full specs are in my sig.
Although I managed to get a stable 4.2Ghz (Turbo boost enabled), I am floored by the voltage requirements I had to set as well as the Idle and Full load temperatures that I'm getting. I was hoping you guys could give me some assistance.
Here are my Bios settings:
Because I am new to the Core I7 and X58 platform, I used this guide from GigabyteCode:CPU Clock Ratio [20x]
QPI Clock Ratio [X36]
BCLK [200]
Advanced CPU Features
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech [Enabled]
CPU Cores Enabled [All]
CPU Multi Threading [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) [Disabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology [Disabled]
Bi-Directional PROCHOT [Disabled]
Uncore & QPI Features
Uncore Clock Ratio [x17]
Isonchronous Support [Enabled]
Advanced Clock Control
Base Clock (BCLK) Control [Enabled]
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) [AUTO]
C.I.A.2 [Disabled]
CPU Clock Drive [ 800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive [ 900mV]
CPU Clock Skew [ 0ps]
IOH Clock Skew [ 0ps]
Performance Enhance [Standard]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.) [Profile1]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) [x8]
DRAM Timing Selectable (sPD) [Quick]
CAS Latency Time 8 [9]
tRCD 8 [9]
tRP 8 [9]
tRAS 20 [24]
CMD [2]
Advanced DRAM Features:
Performance Enhance [Standard]
Channel Interleaving [Auto]
Rank Interleaving [Auto]
Load Line Calibration [Disabled]
CPU Vcore [1.50V]
QPI/Vtt Voltage [1.520V]
IOH Core [Auto]
DRAM Voltage [1.50V]
Advanced Voltage Control
CPU PLL 1.800v [Auto]
PCIE 1.500v [Auto]
QPI PLL 1.100v [Auto]
IOH Core 1.100v [Auto]
ICH I/O 1.500v [Auto]
ICH Core 1.1v [Auto]
DRAM Voltage 1.500v [1.50V]
DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Notice how high he sets the voltages for the Vcore and QPI/VTT !
Well, to get a stable 4.2 GHZ so did I apparently. I tried lower voltages but would get BSOD withing 2 minutes of ORTHOS. I can get a stable 4Ghz at 1.4V with Turbo Boost disabled.
Now here's where I get freaked out. While running Orthos (one instance for each core, 2 threads per instances) at 4.2 GHZ and the above mentioned 1.5V , my core temps jump as high as 79C!!!! That's on freakin' water! Is this normal? And my idle temps again at 1.5 are between 42C and 46C.
With Turbo boost disabled, a vcore of 1.4 my temps idle between 37C and 41C and can reach 71C during Orthos.
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/3246/dsc00024ao.jpg
This is my third watercooled build and I'm fairly sure that the CPU block is properly seated. I mean it's hard to install the Swiftech GTZ poorly. Could it be the Radiator not performing to specs? On my previous build I had a quad 120mm rad, cooling an OCed E8600 to 4.5 Ghz and a Radeon 4870X2 and my temps idled in the 24C to 28C range and never went above 62 at full load. That's what I'm used to seeing.
Also, I'm confused as to why CPUZ reports a Core Voltage of 1.392 even thought I set it to 1.5V.
Anyway, sorry for the lengthy post. If anyone on here could put in their 2 cents I'd much appreciate it.
Thank you very much. :shrug:
That guide if for C0/C1 cpu's. Lower your Qpi/Vtt voltage to 1.3v and start reducing vcore etc while testing. Also turn on LLC as you lower vcore. Set Dram voltage to 1.64v.
holy crap 1.5vcore.
Thanks for the tips Sniper. I tried your suggestions: QPI/VTT voltage to 1.3V, brought down Vcore to 1.3, upped DRAM voltage to 1.64V, something I was reluctant to down since my ram is rated 1.5-1.6. I also enabled LLC.
Sadly, it's a no go. 3 minutes into Orthos and it's BSOD.
I also tried the following: 1.29v Vcore, and 1.275v Vtt, IOH Core is at 1.140v, QPI PLL @ 1.140v, 1.300v CPU PLL, and 1.66v VDimm.
CPU clock drive 800mV, PCIE clock drive 900mV.
CPU clock skew at 100ps
BSOD after 5 minutes into Orthos.
In both cases my temps idled at the 37 to 39C range and 62C-63C during Orthos while it lasted. Turbo boost is also disabled.
I also tried lowering the DRAM frequency to 1200 to rule it out but it didn't help.
Now I'll try a mix of the two: 1.29V Vcore, 1.3V QPI/VTT , 1.6V DRAM
Quick Quest
I've got a UD4P
could i flash it with a UD5 or Extreme bios ?
if so is there any benefit ?
Does anyone else here have a problem with (lowish) cpu temp trip on their ud5?
Even with cpu temp & prochot disabled in the bios I just can't get this thing to let me cook my cpu a bit more when stress testing or benching, as soon as I get to 77 or 78 C in realtemp OCCT stops with a 'cpu too hot' error. Running linx or prime I'll see the same temps right before the screen goes black & POST starts up.
Just curious if it's the motherboard or cpu, attaching a screenshot of OCCT at 4.5 ghz, you can see the max temps in realtemp...
http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/y...empfail77C.jpg
Oct has it's own trigger. Click the orange top right button to bring up the settings tab. You should see at the top MAX CPU temp of 80C which confirms why it's stopping for you. Just change it to what you want.Quote:
OCCT stops with a 'cpu too hot' error
Dear all
Realizing that this thread is for the ud5, the minor differences are inconsequential.
My reason for ranting is simply a very unstable Core I7.
Specs:
Antec p180 case
Antec 1000w True Power Quattro Pro
LG dvd rw
First Mobo ASUS P6T Deluxe V2
Second Mobo EX58 UD4P
CPU Core I7 940
Graphics 295 Nivida
First Set or Ram Kingston 6gb 2000ghz
Second Set of Ram Corsair 6gb 2000ghz
Stock cooling
HD 2x 500gb Seagate
1x SSD 80gb Intel
OK here goes ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 I went through two of those the first had a PCIe failure the second I replaced with EX58 UD4P because I had lost confidence in the board after replacing The Kingston ram the first time.
Realizing I will still having major issues with Ram I replaced Kingston with Corsair on the new EX58 UD4P only to realize that the Corsair ram was faulty and had been pulled by Corsair.
So After much fighting with suppliers got new set of ram new range ok so happy days NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO not to be still major heat, stability problems 124 errors win7 to 40 minutes to load random rebooting you name it . So after searching hundreds of pages I find a guy with similar problems, his problem being he swapped Patriot ram 1333 for 1600 happy days no not to be also major stability problems so guy helping him suggested a few step by step remedies the first being RESET CMOS NOT WITH BUTTON BUT JUMPER AS MOBO REMEMBERS CPU PLL VOLTAGE OF PREVIOUS RAM.
Ok so we are on our way oh by the by this has been going on for 3 months now, so mobo a lot cooler stability better not so many random reboots, so I get ssd wack the two 500gb as raid 0 hoping this would increase loading time of win7 not be so a bit of a hunch made SSD No:1 on stata ports leaving a space physically I make both 500gb slaves to SSD and way down made DVD master on one of the last sata ports happy days win 7 loads in 11 minutes.
Now comes the real sh1t, 940 CANNOT I REPEAT CANNOT SUPPORT 2000GHZ RAM ya major expense for nothing but does Intel tell you these things no they do not. So Final settings are as follows:
BCLK 179
CPU Clock Ratio 19
Frequency 3.40
Performance Enhance Standard
QPI 36x
Uncore 20 x 179 3580
XMP disabled
System MEM multiplier 10
Mem Frequency 1796
PCIE Frequency 100hz
Intel Boost Tech Disabled
CPU Core Enabled ALL
CPU Enhanced Halt C1E Disabled
C3/C6/C7 State support Enabled
CPU Thermal Minitor Disabled
CPU Eist Function Disabled
Virtulization Thech Disabled
Bi-Directional Prochot Disabled
LLC Enabled
CPU voltage 1.281
QPI/VTT auto could not set any woltage refused to get past post
CPU PLL 1.8
Pci E 1.5
QPI PLL 1.14
IOH Core 1.4
ICH I/O 1.64
ICH Core 1.240
Dram Voltage 1.64
So Any suggestions would be welcom seems stable Prime 95 hovers 89 90 deg C on stock cooling.
Thanks for Listening
Sincerely
M.A
Master Aries
hi all.,sorry off topic abit.,i want to change platform.,but now i dunno which 1 is the best for me..can u guys give me some advice which platform should i change..
Core i7 860-Gigabyte P55-UD4P
OR
Core i7 920-Gigabyte EX58-UD5
TQ
I'd personally suggest going for 920 atm. New i7s overclock worse atm, perform a bit worse yet cost about the same.
Plus the "older" platform is certainly more "bug free" when it comes to BIOSes and OCing.
Also you get a nice upgrade path with 6 core Gulftown.
And LOL @ your sig! :D :rofl:
ezaleina,i agree with zalbard
i would get the i7-920 and the UD5 like me.
i had the UD4P and i5-750,very easy to OC
but,i think my i7 rig stomps it.the new i5-i7
cpu's need lots of vcore just like the old 920
CO's did.maybe after a while the new i7-i5's
will get a stepping refresh and be better
TQ bro radaja..Tq so much.,u always help me..TQ.,
your welcome.keep us updated on your new rig when you get it
ok.,how about the RAM.,which 1 is better in terms of OC..Gskill or Corsair..?
i really cant say,ive only ever used my ozc ddr3-1333 LV Animal kit
with this setup.so maybe someone else can chime in on this one.
also you check people sig in this thread and see whats the most popular
kits.good luck
sorry go off topic giga x58 ud3r board ok ? im getting a i7 soon and want to know a solid board for oc,ing it and more to my worry im reading alot of ram issues with some x58 boards someone tell me what ram would be best with what x58 board cheers. dan
G.Skill definitely. Price/performance and looks are amazing. Also Elpida BBSE overclocks great.
So i am trying to get my new 920 on the UD5 stable at 4.0ghz.
First off i have been reading this thread like crazy. And doing a lot of experimenting. 3.8 seems really easy and i cant do anything wrong but once i hit 4.0 sometimes i can get into windows sometimes i cant, and it never makes it past a few seconds of OCCT.
Anyway my main question at this points is what are the max voltages on things i dare try.
Every generation has a different known cap for safty, for the vcore etc and i don't really know what the i7's is.
*EDIT*
Basically i am looking for 24/7 with not much dmg to the hardware.
Is it better to flash the UD5 to the Extreme bios?
GA-EX58-Extreme - F9h
-Support for Core i9
Released 29.Sep 09
Well i was stable for about 5 minutes of OCCT at 4.0ghz, my vcore in bios was a smidge aboove 1.4 but after vdroop it was around 1.34 does this sound normal? And is 1.40-142 range ok for 24/7?
is that with the volt mod?
Ok here is my bios i am 3.8 stable but just cant seem to get 4.0 stable
Any ideas are appreciated.
I have tried cranking the vcore up and while that lets me boot, i am not stable. The higest i have got is 1.42 or so and it drops to 1.36 under load.Code:
Advanced CPU Features [Press Enter]:
CPU Clock Ratio [20x]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech [Enabled]
CPU Cores Enabled [All]
CPU Multi Threading [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) [Enabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function [Enabled]
Virtualization Technology [Disabled]
Bi-Directional PROCHOT [Disabled]
Uncore & QPI Features [Press Enter]:
QPI Link Speed [x36]
Uncore Frequency [x16]
Isonchronous Frequency [Enabled]
Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]:
standard clock control
Base Clock (BCLK) Control [Enabled]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) [190]
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) [AUTO]
C.I.A.2 [Disabled]
advanced clock control
CPU Clock Drive [ 800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive [ 900mV]
CPU Clock Skew [ 100ps]
IOH Clock Skew [ 0ps]
Performance Enhance [Turbo]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.) [Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) [x8]
DRAM Timing Selectable (sPD) [Manual]
Channel A
CAS Latency Time [8]
tRCD 8 [8]
tRP 8 [8]
tRAS 20 [24]
Channel B
CAS Latency Time [8]
tRCD 8 [8]
tRP 8 [8]
tRAS 20 [24]
Channel C
CAS Latency Time [8]
tRCD 8 [8]
tRP 8 [8]
tRAS 20 [24]
Advanced Voltage Control [Press Enter]:
Load Line Calibration [Enabled]
CPU Vcore 1.15v [1.27500v]
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v [1.23500v]
CPU PLL 1.800v [1.840v]
MCH
PCIE 1.500v [1.540v]
QPI PLL 1.100v [1.18000v]
IOH Core 1.100v [1.1600v]
ICH I/O 1.500v [AUTO]
ICH Core 1.1v [1.100v]
DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v [1.640v]
DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]