hi I have tried overclocking to 4ghz but but with no luck tried 400x10 and 450x9 but won't stop stable at 1.40v for longer than 15 mins. I've got 4 pin plug in should I try 8 pin thanks for your help David
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hi I have tried overclocking to 4ghz but but with no luck tried 400x10 and 450x9 but won't stop stable at 1.40v for longer than 15 mins. I've got 4 pin plug in should I try 8 pin thanks for your help David
If you have the appropriate 8-pin plug on your psu, use it. I doubt that is your problem though to be honest.
what might be the problem then Ive tried your template and another 2 and still nothing will it be the bios 803 seems to be good or 1201 sounds to be going well when it's on asus site lol. Could anyone surgest anything to help me out thanks
My ambient room temps are finally cool enough to run 440x8 for 3.52ghz. I am having a problem though. At 425x8 I was able to run my ram at PL7/strong and since I have increased the clock speed it is obvious I will not be able to run at PL7 but I can boot at PL8 and have found that I need 1.46vcore with the CPU and am now trying to pass an OCCT ram test at PL8 but I keep getting BSOD's and OCCT crashes. My ram passes PL8/Moderate with memtest86 v2.01 in DOS. What seems to be my problem? Here are my settings and my set-up is in my sig, thanks!
PHP Code:ASUS P5Q DLX Template :
JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 266
FSB Frequency: 440
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 1103
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
AI Clock Twister: Moderate
AI Transaction Booster: 8
Pull-In of CHA PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH4: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH4: DISABLED
CPU Voltage: 1.4625
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.34
DRAM Voltage: 1.98
NB Voltage: 1.32
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO
Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
CPU VID: Default
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
Try 1.45v to see if volts are the issue - even if you think thats too high for regular use (i dont beleive it is), it will identify that is where the problem is.Quote:
Originally Posted by davidoff619
I didn't have this issue since 0704 bios, maybe you are pushing the rams and board a bit too much so that it becomes unresponsive, post ya template again plz... also before trying out a new setting I opt to save in an OC profile in case off a complete unforeseen reset.... 1201 with the same settings as 1103 seems to give me a bit better bandwith and lower latency (but no miracles ofcourse)Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
Try 1201 mate, runs flawless here with the Qx... and try 3.6Ghz first and determine ya Vcore there and post back... could be some pll and GTL tweaking does the trick... Vcore at 3.6Ghz already gives a good idea what will be required for 4Ghz ops... if you are at 1.25 plus for 3.6ghz you can expect pretty easily 1.4vcore for 4ghz ops.... hows ya cooling ?Quote:
Originally Posted by davidoff619
One of the reasons I almost never use memtest in dos as it seems to be stable there, yet your OS can crash in a flash...I still love XP as it's less hard on ya OC's then Vista... just try to disable static read control and see what gives or loosen to PL 9... think it's time to settle for some slightly looser settings to increase stability... does the CPU and co pass all small tests, ya rig caps out in blend or large mode ?Quote:
Originally Posted by PortCitySlim
I wouldn't run my precious Qx daily over 1.4, think he needs to verify all the settings and power connections and get the hang of the board and settings before pushing on... templates are nice but each CPU/Mobo/Ram combo is different... just like women lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Runkett
Perhaps it is your ram, or your cpu. Not all do 4GHz with <1.40v. Some ram is also very sensitive to the secondary & tertiary timings. AUTO doesn't cut it for these rams.Quote:
Originally Posted by davidoff619
Fill out the bios settings template and post it up here, that makes it much easier to help you out.
Thanks, I have only ran small fft's with prime95, I have not ran large or blend tests there. I am crashing when I run the OCCT Ram test for 2 hours. It will run for 1h45mins and then crash. I think I should just try without Static read control and then maybe go to 2.0v for ram and if all else fails I will go back to 3.4ghz because my ram runs really good there and the extra clock speed is not worth the slash in ram performance to me. Thanks, againQuote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
I guess price of cpu does directly relate to how much juice you are willing to feed it. my e8400 was pretty cheap so if it starts to fade after a year I wont really be upset (good excuse to upgrade) but if I had dropped over a grand on an extreme quad things may well be very different. I still dont think small tests over the comfort zone to see if volts are the issue is going to do much if any damage though (within reason) but trying other things first is the way to go if you are worried about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Hello guys ! First post here, just read 50 % of hundred pages. Huge topic ! Wow.
I think, by my personnal experience, Bios 12.01 is,for me, the most stable i ever used, all olds ones (other that first one) give me issues like windows freez or BSOD. With this bios, it's then the first i can boot on 480 FSB. But 481 don't boot. I'm not an O/C guru as well that's sure but if someone can give me some tips for using an 500*8, it would be nice !
My 24/7 config is 3.6 ghz stable with OCCT 2hours passed without craches.
I can run 480 FSb but only for viewing movies or listenning music , normal use. i can't play or ful load cpu freez my vista. But on idle, it's ok. T° are 34 ° idle @ this core.
(sry for my french english :/)
bios 1201 E8600@4.6GHZ 460x10 stramp 400=1232MHZ level 10
CPU Voltage: 1.4250v= 1.400v
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.30
DRAM Voltage: 2.3
NB Voltage: 1.2.6
NB GTL Reference: 0.610
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO
Probably not an issue, but what are people finding their motherboard temps reaching? I'm using everest to display, but im sure other things give the same reading - I have noticed it goes as high as 40c when/after doing some of the stress tests. While 40c is not a big number compaired to a lot of other components these days, my old 680i board only ever got to about 33c in the same case (P190 with lots of big fans everywhere).
Is that anything to worry about? What part of the board is this a temp reading of anyway?
Two annoying bugs:
1.If you press the power button on first express gate screen and then turn on the computer, OC will always fail.
2.If you put computer in hibernating (I am using vista x64), when you wake up it, all chassis fans will be on 500rpm. I have qfan disabled but the same will happen if it is on.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mac_69
You almost have the same setup as me and I have been having this issue but, I will see if it still persist today as I am getting two new bios today that are preflashed to 1103.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin.v.r
What is the bios showing your GTL values to be? I think E0 stepping has different default values
Here's my template for what settings will be stable at DDR 1199 MHz, but fail to even boot when raising the FSB & therefore ram by 1 MHz. The fact that I am totally stable at 499FSB/DDR1199 then it totally fails to even boot at 500/1200 is obviously a board/bios issue of some kind. I am quite an experienced overclocker and this type of behaviour is very strange.
I have tried every strap at every possible FSB/Ram frequency combination to no avail. 1200 + ram speed is not possible.
PHP Code:ASUS P5Q DLX Template :
JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 499
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 1199 (reads as 1200 in windows)
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: 8
Read to Precharge Time: 5
DRAM Static Read Control: disabled
DRAM Read Training: disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
AI Clock Twister: light (setting to lightest makes no difference)
AI Transaction Booster: 10 (setting up to 13 makes no difference)
Pull-In of CHA PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH4: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH4: DISABLED
CPU Voltage: 1.3625 (I am not cpu vcore limited, I can bench at 571 FSB easily and boot at 590 FSB at this voltage)
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.12
DRAM Voltage: 2.1 (stable at 1199 at 2.1v, setting up to 2.3v makes no difference still cant boot at 1200)
NB Voltage: 1.28
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Load Line Calibration: disabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO
Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Enabled
Vanderpool Technology: Enabled
CPU TM Function: Enabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
Try:Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
DRAM Static Read Control: enabled
DRAM Read Training: enabled
MEM. OC Charger: auto
AI Clock Twister: moderate
I know that seems to be totally oposite to what would work.. but with those settings I have had no problem booting over 1200. I was playing around with mine tonight and would not boot when i chaged from mod to light (wtf) back to mod and booting again... (still failing stress, but i may be just trying to push it too hard).
My only other differnce was more volts, but we have differnt ram and yours may melt at my 2.3v
I'm glad too see you got strap 400 to work as well as the RAMs over 1200. I'll give it a try this weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin.v.r
I suggest you try other memory divider to make sure your RAM can do over 1200 on this board. Maybe 400fsb 266strap 1200RAM would be a good test.Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
WHat is the tighest PL can be reached ( and what strap/divider) up to 450FSB? ( P35:PL 6 / X38/48 : PL7) and what can be reached when doing 500FSB( what strap/divider)?
Any word about the new BIOS: 1201, better then 1103 and 0704?
500 FSB, PL9 1:1, PL8 12:10, both with all pull ins enabledQuote:
Originally Posted by CERO
It varies CERO. Every board/setup is different.
Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
Have you tried using a higher VTT?
Thanks mate but no go. I tried those combos before, and just did again then for the hell of it, and no go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Runkett
I just updated to bios 1201 and made no difference. I was hoping it would. I'll just keep playing with it.
No, It's not my cpu holding me back. I can be stable at 571 FSB with those vcore/vPLL/vVTT settings. It's either my ram, or the MCH, or bios, that is my issue. However as this has been my situation from bios 0610 to 1201, I think I can rule out bios. It must be ram or MCH.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumid
In bios 1201 the ram voltages for me have changed. Now:
Bios/ Real Idle/ Real Load
1.96v /1.97v / 1.98v
1.98v /1.99v / 2.00v
Now I basically get what I set, and it increases by 0.01v under load. That is much better.
hows the Vdroop on this board with that 16 phase power? Non existent?
i get a .01 vdroop but with llc its either not there or +.01
My droop was .03 without LLC, with LLC load was +.01.Quote:
Originally Posted by Budwise
Can someone do me a favor either look at what direction the notch is going on the bios chips on there board or post a high uality up close pic of the board where I can see plainly what direction the nothc is going thank you very much ahead of time.
Sweet jebus.... google man!!!!
http://images.google.com/images?sour...=1&sa=N&tab=wi
Ok after digging through all the pics that are not the deluxe on that link....... I found one.. good enough. I have them plugged in right I am clearing the cmos right now thanks and I did google those pics suck bad and more then half are not the deluxe.
^notch towards the rear of the case :up: Hope you did it right.
Ok here is my verdict they sent me two chips that will not boot up everything spins but nothing else no screen nothing. It also acts like an overclock failure at first then just reboots and sits there with everything spinning. I stuck the one chip I have left back in it and boom it fires right up??
Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
Thank you and yes i did it right. I have the old one running on it right now so....????
Can you perhaps stick your good chip in the primary socket, and a new one in the secondary socket. Then flash the secondary chip. Then swap and place the newly flashed chip in the primary socket, and put the second new chip in, and flash it? That must be pretty annoying.
No there isn't a way to flash the secondary slot they said hen I talked to them Monday. I'm half tempted to send my whole unit to them and tell them to try to figure it out but, my friend said to tell them to send me a new one and then I will send them this one. I just don't get it..
After reading CryptiK post i am really curious about voltages... Are they really fix them and now BIOS value and real value are equal ? If this is right i understand now why my rig is not stable with 1201 at same settings... Can someone to measure the voltages ?
I talked to Asus regarding my issue and the tech said maybe it has to be certain chips but he was under the impression that as long as it was a 8 pin dip chip it would be ok so this might be his fault awaiting call back from him he is checking into it with level three. I mentioned to him that the bios'es keep disapearing and he said ever since they moved a server that it has been acting funny with their phones and everything there so them disapearing is a server issue guys. The 1201 is official.
Double Boot
I don't think this is a problem, the ASUS P5Q-Deluxe, P5K-E WIFI/AP and the P5B-Deluxe all did this double boot thing but only when the machine is powered on for the first time from a cold start (i.e you just plugged the PSU into the mains or toggled the rocker switch from 0 to 1). It never does the double boot thing when soft powered up (i.e you hit the power button on the front of the case).
Double Post
Secondly this thread is completely out of hand and there is no way to control it now, I spent five hours reading it from post #1 all the way through and the quality of information is very low, lots of good posts spread amoungst the thousands of bad posts, waaaaay to much stuff about maximising memory bandwidth in that everest benchmark, it really is not that interesting to someone like me (pl8, pull ins, blah blah) so please don't grumble if I make a single double post instead of using the multiquote feature, I had to read all your cr*p so don't get your knickers in a twist if I made a one post too many!
Now lets all chill out and get back to it, maybe a group hug is in order? everyone seems a bit tense or what! :D
Okay...update on my problem...
Last night, the crackling came back in-game from the sound (using digital out) until I restarted, though even after restart I still had a little bit of crackle (not nearly as much, though, where things would turn to static practically).
Popping/clicking in Teamspeak is still going on. It's an intermittent thing rather than happening every second or something like that.
I ran checks on the memory et al. and that all seems to check out OK.
I have until tomorrow to exchange it for a new one, but I'm kind of reluctant to tear everything apart if it isn't going to help with this problem. Any more ideas, guys?
How are you connecting (digital out?, RCA or Toshlink?)and what are you connecting to?
I am using 4:1 speakers and on occassion a headset and have no crackle but I am using analogue?
Does anyone know what to do if one of my cores constantly crashes almost imediately(<3min) in Prime95?
I have a Q9450@3.8GHz, other 3cores run fine but only the #3 thread fails.
Bios is 0803,already pretty much maxed out with voltages. GTLs are on Auto.Should i mess with them to see the #2 core stable?
Which is the value to begin?0.61 is ok? Max should be 0.67-0.68 if this is like my DFI.
^^ Up the GTLref... default is .67, so try .68 or so. ^^
Just put together new P5Q-D with new Q9650 that won't post with Corsair Dominators:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...Tpk=20-145-197
Tried flashing to 1201, no difference.
This setup works with other RAM I have, just not the Dominators, fans spin, no video, nothing.
I had a previous P5Q-D that worked with the same RAM, and I can move this RAM to another mobo, it works fine.
I also tried setting the RAM voltage to 2.0 or higher manually, then putting the Dominators in, still no go.
Any ideas?
Could it be the Q9650? I don't have another CPU to test right now.
Did you setup the speeds as well?
I dont think it would be the processor considering it booted with other ram..
ASUS probably has multiple web servers in a farm and has problems keeping them in sync. Some would see new info others old info. Not a hard issue to resolve if they spent a few minutes on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeastNotro
Using the coax output, connecting to a d/a conversion box.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big.Wayne
I forgot to mention, the crackling probably occurs principally in Empires mod for HL2. I haven't noticed it, for the most part, elsewhere though one time it showed up while watching Youtube videos.
I have had the same problem only from an X-fi and not the onboard. I figured it had to do with the 525fsb I was running at the time, although PCi freq was at 100. What speed are you running? Mine could also be caused by the SB being in the slot above my 4870, only slot I can put it in. This board was not layed out very well at all if you use a PCI device :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by intarweb
Not yet, since the first P5Q-D I had worked with the same RAM set to AUTO, I would have guessed that this one would as well. Like I said, it is known good RAM, works today (not on this P5Q-D) so what else could be different?
Quote:
Originally Posted by jas420221
Running at 400FSB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pntgrd
I had a P5Q-E before the Deluxe, but switched to the Deluxe due to some stability issues with the E and 4x1GB low latency memory. The Deluxe fixed the stability problem in spades, but this sound problem seems to have arrived with the entry of the Deluxe into my system. I don't recall the E doing this, despite having the same sound chipset :confused:
Mostly what I'm trying to figure out at the moment is if this is just driver/software or if it's a hardware failure since driver/software I have plenty of time to try to fix and hardware I don't since I have to return it probably today or tomorrow to be able to exchange X_X. As I learned from the -E, though, there is some sample variability and I'm a bit worried about exchanging it and ending up with a less stable board, overall.
They are sending me more chips.. The ones they sent me were not right.
I have that same RAM with no issues. I even reinstalled vistax64 last night. I had a separate issue with 1201 and ended up using 803 bios and I still have everything set on auto (not set anything overclocked yet). I have mine in the yellow slots.
You say fans come on but no video, if the fans startup and then stop after a few secs it can be a short between motherboard and case - I had that with the backplate cooler that came with the thermalright 14 - had to junk it.
Good luck
Quote:
Originally Posted by aamsel
I just got my RMA Ballistics 8500 , I asked in the phone to the tech at crucial to send me the old double sided Kit , he said yes they are a few available I will try to send you one of the old Kits double sided. Guess what i just recived the memory back and im playing to see where My Asus P5Q-Deluxe will take this marvelous Ram Kit. A quick test reveiled that Bios 1201 its oriented towards memory overclockability. I lost a few Mgz in FSB in trade for high OC in the memory department on Bios 1201 , previous bioses tested wont let me oc ram stable past 1200 neither.
Quick Test
vram 2.34v
cpu E8400 1.40v
manual settings to 5-5-5-15 everything else at auto.
:eek: DDR2 @ 1300 with only 2.34v
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...untitled-6.jpg
No, the fans stay on, and the P5Q-D is not in a case yet, no short.
Just no video or keyboard lights with the Dominators.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mac_69
I hope I'm wrong Aamsel but it might be that a) the board is DOA or b) it just doesn't know what to do with ya CPU... is there anyway you can lend a cpu to see if it posts then... have you tried with one dimm ? did you pop the battery ? tried with a PCI vidcard ?Quote:
Originally Posted by aamsel
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big.Wayne
Wayne mate the bandwith thing is to me the only thing that needs to be improved (and so do feel many other users) to be a true P35 beater... setup is still fairly easy but the P35 was a tad faster in the ram department... and really the multiquote thing is pretty handy when you reply to more than one post... and if you have a change of heart or want to add something just edit ya post...don't post a new one then 2 minutes later like some tend to do...that's why the thread moves too fast sometimes...
I wished the mods would allow me to edit the OP first posts so I can add some common info there (like Jvidia's volt readings, current biosses, the templates, some stuff that works for most etc...)
Keep up the good work lads... Nehalem maybe next for me...
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=402667
PC8000 CL4 Cellshock 2.3V
Quote:
Originally Posted by chispy
Micron d9s clock like mad on this board, mine are doing 600mhz with 2.14v no sweat
It it working fine with 2GB of GSkill now, but still nothing with the 4GB of Dominators. I tried every BIOS from 0803 until 1201, no difference, drained CMOS every time.
Also, even if it is working with 1GB of GSkill and I add either Dominator module, same thing, no video or keyboard.
Any reason for this?
Also, the VID on the Q9650 is 1.1v.
Is that good?
Just started testing it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
At least your systems working. That ram is on the SQV list and does work stock with no tweaking/settings required - I've seen other posters using it too. Strange that it works in another board though. Can you RMA the set and try another set of them or another brand of 8500 2x2GB - that way you can check your board.Quote:
Originally Posted by aamsel
some1 mentioned, he did read it with a DIMM that 1201, is near to what u set @ BIOS real, according to him vDIMM doesnt overvolt with 0.08 instead it overvolts with 0.01 and 0.02 during load. But Any1 else have yet to confirm it aswell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kartoff
Some memory observations (P5Q-premium, but probably the same for P5Q-deluxe):
FYI, Corsair CM2X1024-9136C5D really dislikes this motherboard.
Without huge tweakings:
Max stable (E8500) 9,5x429, memory at 1143 MHz.
Unstable: Lots, but e.g. 6x450, memory at 900 Mhz!
Good part:
Initial testings with G.Skill 2x2Gb PC2-9600 1200Mhz:
Stable without tweaking at 1226 Mhz.
Seems weird, but as someone else posted earlier in this thread, ASUS P5Q motherboards has compatibility issues with Corsair memory.
I could RMA it, but it is good, tested, working RAM that worked on another P5Q-D as well.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mac_69
Ahh sorry, and I just read back and saw you'd posted that earlier. Pity about your motherboard then.Quote:
Originally Posted by aamsel
Just got my P5Q-Deluxe back from RMA... set it up caseless on my wood kitchen table.
First boot - no POST
Second boot - no POST
Cleared CMOS
Third boot - no POST
I pressed and held the reset button on the board until it shut off and then it turned back on itself. It POSTed that time. Give that a go... my first P5Q-Deluxe was DOA, but I didn't try that method.
Has anyone gotten RAID to work on this board? I used the driver CD to make a floppy with RAID drivers on it and it only has AHCI drivers, not RAID and thus, I can't get any further installing Windows.
So your using 2.34v bios vdimm, what FSB/vNB/strap?Quote:
Originally Posted by chispy
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin.v.r
So you're at 420FSB, 3:5, what vdimm/vNB?
Thanks
**EDIT - Yes I measured the vDIMM with a DMM - 1201 BIOS - it overvolts 0.01v from bios set at idle, then this increases to 0.02v overvolt under load. So, 1.96v (bios) gives 1.97v (idle) and 1.98v (load).
If you have vista you don't need it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Polizei
Aight guys I'm getting extremely mad here.
I bought a new PC for my GF's family and I can't for the life of me get this damn PC stable even at stock speed...
The system consists of:
P5Q Deluxe
Q6600
G.Skill 4GB PC2-8000
HD4870
etc
I have been trying everything, but I mean everything: Running everything at stock, setting manually the right specs for the memory, upgrading BIOS 605 to 803, and the list goes on and on...
I have selected lower memory specs, auto timings, manual timings, auto CPU voltage, manual CPU voltage up to 1,4V for stock speed, upping the memory voltage up to 2,10V, changing the PLL voltage, changing the PCI Express speed from 100 to 110, disabling any spread spectrum, enabling loadline calibration, loosing the board's timing, leaving everything at auto...
EVERY THING GIVES ME ERRORS WITH PRIME95 WITHIN THE FIRST MINUTE
I'm really desperate; did I receive the worst CPU Intel has ever made in its whole history or is it my board that is a total POS?
I have finished a similar build with a P5K Premium a few months ago and I have had none of these issues...
I seek some help or I will RMA the board and CPU!
EDIT: I gotta add that 60% of the time, when I change a setting in the BIOS, the board will not even boot and gives me a Overclocking failed on the 2nd attemp even though everything is set at auto...
My CPU has a VID of 1,325V and is running at 1,32V at stock speed...
Ok, try setting AI Transaction Booster to 'Manual', then below that set level 10.
Then set 1.30v vNB
See how that goes.
Okay, I tried playing Empires again today and didn't hear any crackling. Haven't tried teamspeak. This is definitely a weird intermittent thing, which is why I hadn't returned the board yet, unless this can also be a hardware-induced phenomenon? Looks like tomorrow is zero-hour with respect to being able to avoid having to do a warranty request with Asus.
So, think it's probably drivers? Or more likely hardware? I'll tear it apart and exchange the board if it's hardware, but I have to admit I'm worried the next board might be worse >.<
I haven't had sound problems in other games so far, so I do kind of wonder if maybe HL2 is doing something fishy. I sort of suspect it may be related to having voice chats going on as they seem to really aggrivate the problem. So, it could be that it's having trouble dealing with sounds of multi sample rates (which I think it resamples all to 48KHz per the AC97 spec), but that could still be hardware. It's kind of weird that restarting tends to fix the problem.
I have had this issue with teamspeak before even with a Xifi card, noise got verry erratic and crackled sometimes, seemed it had loads of interference... think it's more software related then hardware mate, I didn't have this on 32bit OS but on 64 it came back... now with the latest version I don't have those issues (though I updated my creative drivers too)Quote:
Originally Posted by intarweb
Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
Please, can anyone else confirm this? This might be why I am having a pain in the a** overclocking my ram with bios 1201. Before I was setting the voltage 0.08v lower to offset the voltage increase, but I have not multimeter and could really really use one more person confirming this is true and I can change my voltage to reflect the change. Thanks!
Edit: Sorry, I was just reading through the last few pages and saw that a couple others have already asked the same question. I did not see them, but this new finding does explain some weird things I have been seeing with my RAM.
I gained extra 20MHz with my crappy RAM while with 1103 BIOS it just stopped dead at 800MHz (max RAM freq. by specs). It's not much but it seems to help.
Okay, sounds like this may be software, then. I remember just now I had almost exactly this same problem with a sound card I used to use on my old computer (Diamond XS71), both the TS problem as well as the crackling of doom in HL2. Everything else is working awesomely, though. The computer is wicked fast overall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Which BIOS are you using now, then?Quote:
Originally Posted by RejZoR
Here CryptiK
bios 1201 E8600@4.2 mem 1400MHZ level 10
CPU Voltage: 1.296v
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.30
DRAM Voltage: 2.3
NB Voltage: 1.2.6
NB GTL Reference: 0.610
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO
It's me or all new bios are removed from asus site? (Only 0803 is available?) That is annoying :/
Someone know the reasons?
Server probs, nothing to do if the bios is okay or not...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fedos
Grab the 1201 here :P5Q-ASUS-DELUXE-1201.zip
or via their ftp:
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/P5Q_Deluxe/
Thanks for answer, i was on 'ftp.asus.com' and was only 0803 available.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Mom :help:
need a little help
E8600 @ 5GHZ Cellshock PC8000 CL 1000MHZ 5-5-5-15/18 2T
can run superpi ½ time,by 500x10 fsb,an 501x10 no go
stramp 400 a 500x10 ? no go,can only run strap 333 here :confused:
501+ x10 fsb can i not run superpi more,MEM will not be write :(
have tried everything,with temingset.
what can I Disabled,so I can get mem with again,over 500x1o fsb
AI Overclock tuner: manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 10
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
FSB Frequency: 500
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1000
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
2nd Information :
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO
3rd Information :
WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disable
MEM. OC Charger: Enable
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
Common Performance Level [10] to 13
Pull-In of CHA PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH4: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH4: DISABLED
CPU Voltage: 1.58XXV
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.36
DRAM Voltage: 2.36 more volt help not
NB Voltage: 1.56
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
Thanks for the help, will try that asap.Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
Anybody else has some inputs? See my previous post on p.157.
try with one stick , if it behaves then , swap it for the other one... might be you got one bad ram stick... also did you try any other dimm slots ?Quote:
Originally Posted by S1mon-
I'm using WinXP Pro... Can't find the drivers on Asus's site either.Quote:
Originally Posted by truehighrollerIf you have vista you don't need it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Polizei
MMM yahhh... you might be in trouble there. I don't know what you would do there. Call ASUS maybe?Quote:
Originally Posted by Polizei
Why don't you download Intel drivers directly from Intel website? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Polizei
INTEL MATRIX STORAGE MANEGER
Is your G.skill new? I heared from some German dudes that G.skill used recently new powerchips in their 8000CL5 4GBPQ, and they are incompatible witht he Asus P5Q series.Quote:
Originally Posted by S1mon-
Also a friend of mine wanted to buy a kit for his P5Q deluxe and the shopowner said they had several RMA because of the newer chips in the 8000CL5 4GBPQ and recommend him not to pick that kit, however older chips works on this board......maybe ask G.skill technician about it. Maybe u can confirm yourself if u have a spare kit of a different brand/chip
* edit I am sorry I got somehow mixed with another thread , and thought u had the G.skill but u got the ballistix, and those should work espacially good old micron chips.
polizei,I'm on a p5q-e,Raid is working on mine.
Try this-
http://rapidshare.com/files/137527598/xp.rar-files to put on floppy
or this-
http://rapidshare.com/files/137527790/xpmakedisc.rar-makedisc utility
The raid driver is the same download for p5q-e/deluxe.
Which slots tends to clock better on this board, normally the black ones (slot2/4) on most asus boards, but how about on this board, heared some said slot1/3 the yellow onces.
I used the yellow ones.
the manual says the yellow ones
$199 looks like an ok deal for this board. Think I'll order one. There's plenty of great info here to get a o/c running fast! Thanks everyone.
Thnx, The yellow it is then, what does actually Mem Charger do ? Does it give performance boost in programs like everest, or just for stability? Could this be drive strenght?
I did some testing with different DRAM SRC, strap and Clock Twister, all on 534 FSB.
This is what I came up with:
http://shrani.si/f/38/sh/4vPDSlat/everest-memory.jpg
Not much of a difference, so I then tested 9x445 SRC En./333/Moderate:
9013-9444-9341MB/s
Judging by these results, FSB matters the most.
Screens with settings used:
http://shrani.si/t/1H/TK/1YohuizZ/ev...-src-disab.jpg
http://shrani.si/t/T/7w/bFkVOpy/ever...-src-disab.jpg
http://shrani.si/t/5/rO/4l64LugJ/eve...-src-disab.jpg
http://shrani.si/t/x/ao/4Qaz9KUq/eve...-src-enabl.jpg
http://shrani.si/t/1H/zB/DGTCcx4/eve...-src-enabl.jpg
http://shrani.si/t/i/I7/2jL34vso/eve...-src-enabl.jpg
333/Strong resulted in no boot.
9x445, DRAM 1069:
http://shrani.si/t/X/HV/1Is45xqR/eve...src-enable.jpg
Orthos stable:
http://shrani.si/t/S/125/3HmtHsNr/75...375v-llc-e.jpg
http://shrani.si/t/2m/si/2JTLw13f/9x...75v-llc-en.jpg
Had no luck with 1.26V NB/strap 400 and Strong, so I am not done testing.
ive tested both, neither is better then the other.Quote:
Originally Posted by CERO
yes, 1:1 is much more aggressive then any ratio. as nice as that seems to be it also seems to be the "problem" with high fsb overclocking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gr1mR34p3r
JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: 10
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1002 tried on 800
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: MANUAL
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 tried on 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55 tried on auto
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO
CPU Voltage: 1.4
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.30
DRAM Voltage: 2.0
NB Voltage: 1.30
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Load Line Calibration: ENABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO
Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 10
CPU VID: Default
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
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right theses are my settings will boot and stay stable for about 16 mins tops some time a few seconds i cant understand why. i only have the 4 pin power in not all 8 pins. bios 1103 but going to 1201 when i go home 2moz ram in yello slots.
i also tried 465x8.5 with a lower v core and it stoped stable for 22 mins but nothing wants to work not even 450x9. if anyone has any templates for me to try then pm them me. and ill try in the morning. i need my rig rock solid stble for gaming temps not a problem 9800 gx2 and cpu watercooled.
thanks in advance will let you know how i get on
it is usually a better idea to gain stable fsb with a low multi first, then add the higher multi later. that way if there is a problem you know its not the CPU.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin.v.r
too much voltage can crash these system just as easily as not enough. lower your voltages to 1 notch above defaults.
Oke there were rumours that the 1201 BIOS would be close to real according to Cryptik, he said with all previous BIOS if u set @ BIOS: 1.96v , in windows Ilde: 1.97 and load : 1.98v. So I just installed my board it came shipped with 0803 BIOS and I was curious about it , so I grabbed my $7 Multi meter and check it out. I set @ BIOS : 1.96v , in windows idle I get 2.04 ( steady), when I run Blend it fluctates all the time between 2.04- 2.05v. After this I installed the 1201 BIOS, unlike Cryptik this BIOS behaved the same : when I set 1.96v it indicates still 2.04 @ windows Ilde and fluctates between 2.04- 2.05 during Prime blend. We just have 2 peeps measured the DIMM @ BIOS 1201 would be nice if some1else could meassure it aswell, so we can be abit more "sure" about it
*edit I also tried it @ 2.00v BIOS set windows Ilde: 2.07 -2.08 prime blend: 2.08- 2.09
I just tested Vdimm Full Load.... Bios 1201
I am folding right now...... so Bios is set at 1.96 and volt meter reads . fluctuates 1.96-2.0 MAX... cause of folding going on...... so MAX is 2.00 load.
As for idle i don't know yet, but i assume it is around 1.96-1.97v
I will check later on today when i decide to shut folding off.
Yes ThugsRook
600x6 is ok,but will have the same problem here by 601x6,I have with 501x10 :confused: the temp is not high, i got watercooling.
guys,
its not just vdimm that overvolted... CPU PLL, FSB term, and NB, all overvolted. especially on AUTO or what was supposed to be the "default" setting.
i got most if not all of my OC by lowering my voltages, not by raising them :yepp:
Guys, why is it an advantage to set the PCIE @ 101 instead of 100? thanks
[thanks for the replies guys]
good question, as it does nothing for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by mac_69
Hi Boyz
I just bought this motherboard and an E8600 and 2x1GB Kingston 12800 CL9 modules wich im able to overclock to 1800Mhz. :)
The only problem i have so far is that i cant seem to adjust the bass and diskant on the onboard audio.
Does any know how to adjust theese settings?
/*Svend