My best HIGH BCLK board is P6T WS Pro.
But I think REX3 is not so bad for high BCLK & X-COOL.
REX2 is totally F**K for high BCLK & X-COOL.
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well there are plenty of other reasons why it's a decent buy. it does have great OC abilites regardless if you can't pump the crap out of BLCK, but that's also why CPU's have multipliers and also why there are unlocked CPU's aswell so that you wont need to go so high on BLCK setings.
i personally got the board for 1 - good memory OC abilities, 2 - 6core support / favored and great OC, 3- has 9128 controler for SATA3 raid ability *though not marketed with the board, it's listed as SATA3 raid capable on Marvel's page*, 4- USB 3.0, 5- loads of power stability... it's just a good future proofe board that'll get it's owner some years out of it without a thought of upgrading for a while.
you don't have to have HIGH BLCK to get good numbers, balanced settings will get you where you want to go aswell.
^^I agree..well said :up:
Let us therefore rock the R3E!
when you are working with a 21 multi high bclk is a must, i enjoy playing with the 920/930 do's especially for 200.00 at micro center. I got this board in hopes of going a bit higher than on my ud7, which got me 4.725ghz linx stable on water, but i cant even get close. i refuse to pay 900.00 for a cpu, for me that just takes the fun out of it. it is nice to buy a lower priced chip and see what you can do with it, bloomfield 920/930's and clarkdales are just a blast to oc and wont break the bank.
Thanks Kurumi Japan, your method worked! Seems as if there is a bug with bios 0860 as it will not let you update to 0901 and give you problems. I updated to 9124, then back down to 0901 and all systems go!
I also noticed when flashing from 0860 the process was a lot quicker and didn't seem to flash completely. Thanks once again!
you're still not seeing the point of the R3E, it's a 32nm favored board so yes, if you're running somethings that's not a 32nm tech chip, you're probably not going to see alot of glory from it. it's been stated several thousand million bagillion gazillion times that it's favoored to gulf chips. that being said *that many times* it should be a heads up that yes you'll do fine with most 45nm chips but you'll do better with a 32nm. your UD7 platform was probably designed for the general purpose of being used with both 45 and 32 techs but probably does better with 45nm due to it being a more widely used chip range than 32nm just yet.
but i'm not gonna lie, i too am having issues with my R3E and have yet to get much of an answer from anyone on here the times i have posted my bios setings, so i really don't have the help i need to get to my goal or past it, of which i know is more than capable of hitting because it's only 4.5ghz and then times i CAN get it running for a bit at that speed, temps stay to the low 70's at most.
I need a Gulftown chip :-( I can't get this thing past 21 X 218 BLCK no matter what I do.
Going to Vegas in Oct and saving every penny right now. Hopefully I hit it big so I can buy a Gulf when I get back LoL.
bclck=222 is probably highest my air-cooler can handle.
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Very nice oc harbin. :up:
I probably wont be testing the new bios on LN2 until this week. My ud9 crapped out as well.. Bummer.. I really liked that board. Big bang x-power seems to work better now. I just said the hell with the IOH HEAT.. I need maximum stability and since the rampage is my favorite benching board I just decided to put an LN2 pot on the NB. All is well while benching when the IOH is at -5c :)
I decide to buy this board because I want not to tost my crossfire setup (2 x 5870) first and in future have a cheap 6 core cpu.
I think today REXIII is the only board at that price (345 euro here in Greece) that can have if you handle 2 vga and want to have them at low temps.
The problem with IOH solved for me when reapply thermal paste and put the optional with fan
My room temp is 25c
http://a.imageshack.us/img839/8426/amb25.png
I have no problem to boot even at 231 (without slow mode), but my W3520 definitely has a wall at 231, because there is no matter if I use slow more or not I can't pass bclk 231. I can't even under windows rise the bclk to 232 :( I think the broblem isn't the board. It depends of CPU potentiality.
http://a.imageshack.us/img834/8026/pi8377.th.jpg
Yes, CPU BCLK limit exists.
But many of people faces mobo BCLK limit, not CPU limit.
They can raise up BCLK if they use slow mode or other mobo.
But They can not raise up high QPI mode same as slow mode BCLK level.
This BCLK limit is depend on X58 chip.
My REX3 can raise up BCLK 245MHz with x36 QPI(QPI speed is 8.8TB over).
But in the slow mode, I can not raise up BCLK over 251MHz (QPI speed is around 8,0TB).
My REX3 has BCLK margin when it works slow mode.
But it can not raise up BCLK over 251MHz because of it faces CPU BCLK limit.
So I test x36 BCLK limit & slow mode BCLK limit when I buy new chip & mobo.
If high QPI & slow mode BCLK limit is almost same.
→It faces CPU BCLK limit, change other CPU.
If slow mode can raise up BCLK than high QPI mode.
→It faces mobo BCLK limit, change other mobo.
Sorry, I confused you so much.
So, 0901 is the best BIOS right now, including an i7?
I love β9124 & 0901 BIOS.
Now, I tested both BIOS about 3D benchmark on air.
0901 a little bit faster than 9124.
I think 0901 improve 3D06 cpu test score from 9124.
Test results are as my blog.
Very nice results, I also hope to eventually get a 6core chip, but it doesnt look like they will ever be cheap. I think the board is nice and loaded with tons of great features that are all functional unlike some other boards which makes it very appealing, just not ready to make the jump to gt yet. I will keep it so that when the time comes all I'll need is the chip.
somethings up here on my system...
randomly with 0901, i can't seem to set uncore to the proper speed with the memory... oddly enough, every time i try it just wont boot period even on other uncore speeds. only time it'll boot is when uncore is set to AUTO and when it does boot it comes up with a speed that doesn't match (EI 1866mhz mem should have 3733 uncore or slightly higher but comes up at 2800-3000 with AUTO. i've tried on mem speeds between 1800 and 1900 with proper uncore speeds and nothing. i DO notice that this really only happens when BLCK is at stock 133 setting... otherwise it'll... sorta boot on other settings.)
EDIT: what i mean by not booting is that it hangs on CPU check during bios start.
I've read that 980 only need 3:2 ratio uncore to RAM. Here's very nice thread over i4memory
Very nice temps. I also reapplied the thermal paste, Shin-Etsu G751. On cold boot it is at 38c, then slowly climbs till after 20 mins it hovers around ICH/IOH - 50/52c with MB at 32c. Room temps ~26-27c. You run your board in a case? If so which one? Oh also I am NOT using the optional Northbridge Thermal Module.
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8.007 Ghz on my Rampage 3 Extreme with Core i7 920 DO...
LoL
This is what happened today while benching... Screen froze and then it jumped to this and stayed on the screen so I grabbed my G1 and took a picture.
So far the highest boot settings is 216 BCLK on my i7 920 DO. With the ROG connect I can get it to 222 then freezes at 223 no matter how much voltage I give it or settings I change. I think im done for awhile until I get a Gulftown or the next bios comes out. I'm going to order a new bench table ( probably a Danger Den Torture rack ) and LN2\Dice pot and try dice for the first time here soon.
Wish me luck ... LoL
Wow, 920 world record?
Only P4s can do 8GHz, I guess. ;)
thanks that actually helped quite a bit. i've gotten alot more successful passes through LinX with the info in those sub links.
so far my favored settings is 4.333ghz / 1896mhz memory. doubt i'll hit 4.5ghz until i can upgrade the water cooling system a bit more, right now it's CPU, mobo and dual GPU all in one loop on a single double deck 120mm x4 radiator with silent fans :shakes: but it helped alot thanks.
How are you cooling the VRM's if you have a pot on the NB as the chipset cooler is one large piece?
Me too. It's really annoying when I'm sitting at 254 BCLK trying to hit 255 and all of the sudden it hardlocks because of a software issue...
I actually was'nt cooling the VRM'S at all.. But I ran a bunch of tests for an hour or so and they never really caused a problem. I did have a couple fans on different areas of the board though.
The R3E died on me last week, sent for RMA.
Good luck guys
^^ that sucks man, sorry to hear that.
If I told you guys that my 920 hit 5GHz, how much do you think I'd be running my RAM at?
really slow?:shrug:
i've been trying to get my 980x to run LinX stable at 4.5ghz on water... though i think most getting it stable at that point are doing it with HTT disabled, i'm doing it with Enabled and MAN this runs stupid hot... :eek:
TJ max being in single digit zones is kinda scary :shocked:. i think i'll get this validated and then roll back to 4.3 with HTT enabled...
i think i might look into chilled cooling next :yepp:
Hi people. I am not an expert as most of you are. I am just now trying to put together this system.
And I need some technical info if anyone here knows.
Well, my two Radeon HD5970 video cards had a hard time fitting into the ANTEC 900 TWO computer case with all my Hard Drives.
So instead of using the PCI-E slots #1 and #3 for CorrosFireX as stated by Asus
I was only able to fit the cards in PCI-E slots #2 and #4
I need to know if this will be ok !?! Will I still get 16x and 16x out of this setup ? And will slot #2 act as the primary PCI-E slot ?
Thing is I heard that X58 chipset has 32 PCI-E lanes for video cards.
I also heard that slots #1 and #2 make up first 16 lanes and slots #3 and #4 make up the other 16 lanes.
So is it not possible to use slots #2 and #4 to get 16x and 16x ???
(Note: I also turned the PCI-E swiches to " off " on all but slots #2 and #4 )
I am just putting it together now, so no OS is installed yet. No way to test.
Can anyone please reply ?
Thank you.
@Samson
PCI-E 1 & 2 share 16 lanes and PCI-E 3 & 4 share another 16 lanes, so as long as there is one VGA in 1 or 2 and one in 3 or 4 you are fine.
There are exceptions though. If using 3 VGA's in 1, 2 and 3, 1st will run @ 16x while 2nd and 3rd will run @ 8x. Also if you have VGA @ 16x and stick in some sound card for example in near slot @ 1x, you won't slow down VGA, IIRC.
Thank you so much for the info !!
But I am surprised at the last part of what you said about the sound card.
I thought this " would " in fact slow down the video card to less than 16x.
Are you sure it will not ??
Anyways, I will not be putting in any additional video cards.
I will only be using PCI-E slots #3 and #4 for my two Radeon HD5970, and the
standard PCI slot for a 56K Modem.
So I am safe to put my 5970's in slots 3 and 4 and still get 16x/16x bandwidth ??
No, you can't use 3 & 4 and maintain 16x speed for both. You said you will be using 2 & 4 and it would be OK for 16x/16x. :up:
You can use 1&3 or 1&4 or 2&3 or 2&4 to keep it at 16x/16x, and not 1&2 or 3&4 as it will drop to 8x/8x.
About using x1 card by the side of VGA and maintaining VGA at 16x, I'm 99% sure, as I read it somewhere what people tried, but didn't try it myself.
alright so...
4.3ghz / 1880mhz mem is Prime95 stable for 19 hours, 27 minutes on all 12 threads and no errors... yet it wont pass a 20 round test in LinX... i think something is wrong with LinX.
i've got the update but every time i try using that one it hangs on it's test. i puts about 98% load on the CPU and just sitings on test one and never completes or stops on error... just keeps going and going. :shrug:
Ok, I am sorry, it is my mistake I was very tired, it was in the early morning
hours and I hadn't gone to sleep yet. I meant to say slots 2 and 4 but typed
out 3 and 4. Sorry.
But thank you so much for the perfectly clear reply. The good side of my
error is that it caused you to give an even more detailed explanation of
which slots can be used for 16x. It is crystal clear now, and should be to all
looking at this topic.
Thank you again.
Nvd
i shouldn't have too, that's the issue...
i'm on water, temps are fine... i can't seem to use any QPI voltage between 1.33 and 1.38v... it BSOD's on every segment between that range. can't seem to boot @ or above 1900mhz on memory. i DO have 12gb of memory but with what memory it is and what cpu i'm using i shouldn't be having the issues i am with a 980x + (6x2) Dominator-GT's... none of them are defective either and it's really irritating. i SHOULD be able to get 4.5 on cpu and 2000 on memory but it just wont do it... critical errors left and right so whatever... and i don't trust LinX anymore... EVERYTHING else i have to stress test with passes the 4.3ghz / 1880mhz setup and does it solid for nearly 24 hours straight... yet LinX thinks it's not stable... i don't trust it... specially when it's not exactly putting 100% load because i get nearly 15% more power consumption when testing with Prime.
I can confirm that using a sound card in slot 4 or 2 does not slow slots 1 and 3 at all,
currently I have a D2X in slot four and both my 5870s are running at x16.
Power consumption is not the full picture. It depends where that power is being drawn from and which bus is being stressed as a result. Overall Linpack is harder to pass than Prime in my experience.
DDR3-2000 with 12GB of memory unconditionally stable, is going to be difficult. I achieved DDR3-1904 with 12GB at 7-9-8-20 - using a GSkill PSC based kit. If you can get that, it is more than enough. Alternatively, you can aim for DDR3-1600 CAS 6 with a tRCD of 6. Higher bandwidth does not add up to much as the dominating factors for random access are tRCD and tCL. A tRCD of 6 at DDR3-1600 gives you a plenty fast random access time of
7.5ns, versus a time of 8 ns with a tRCD of 8 at DDR3-2000. The burst time period will be a little faster at DDR3-2000, but not by enough to make any kind of noticeable difference to applications.
i had no problems with 12gb of dominator gt @ 2050mhz 8-8-8-24 with 980x i had 1.42v for qpi
its after 2100mhz i ran into problems but then i was only usind 1.65v
try 1.67v
i dont use prime much anymore i like linx cause its way faster
most times i can do prime n cant pass linx for 2 min lol
mine are the Corsair CMT12GX3M6A1866C9 kit with PSC chips. what are the complete settings you had for that setup if you don't mind me asking? blck, multiplier, other timings of the memory and so on. i'll see if it'll work for me or tweak them a bit. as of right now i've yet to even get it to post with memory set to 2000+ even with QPI set as high as 1.48. so unless i'm over looking some timings or something i can't quite figure out why it wont go.
i KNOW 12gb is difficult to get to high speeds due to the IMC, but i KNOW this kit and others like it can do it without issue with the 980x but NO ONE really lists the detailed settings they have to have gotten there. they just say "oh ya i've got mine at such and such speed" when someone like me is having issues and is asking for help but never do they say what settings they used :shrug:
how much memory are you testing with prime?
the default is 1600mb which will explain why you pass it, you are only testing a small percentage of the total memory. do a custom run using more mem and it will probably fail if linx does.
IMO that is the only reason blend passes and linx fails (not enough mem selected), on older platforms where 2 or 4gb was the norm linx required a little less voltage to pass, and on my x58 if i set custom blend and use more memory blend is still harder to pass. using the latest version 26.xx i bsod in blend on a linx stable system, 4500mhz.
hey skuldarin I found linx the hardest to pass with 980x. So if you're looking for 24/7 stable definetly run linx 25K+ problem size and maybe a quickie Hyper Pi run
i do custom blend and test the rough amount of available memory like LinX does (before i used LinX i was testing 10gb of memory leaving the rest with a bit of head room for windows and whatnot while testing.). i've been making sure to test as much memory as possible every time to insure stability.
hell, even with LinX, before i test all memory i first start with a 10minute pass with 16mb (about 4500 passes), then i test 64mb for 5 minutes and then i test 128mb and 512mb for 1000 passes. then i test 1gb and 2gb for 100 passes and THEN go to full memory. it may seem like major over kill, but if nothing is caught through all of that, it should be fine in my eyes...
i'll try it and see if there's any differences. right now i'm testing 4510mhz / 1866mhz @ CL7 (7-9-7-24-72) and in the middle of the 10 and 5 minute passes right now. almost every attempt i've been doing hasn't passes the 10minute 16mb test but this one just finish without errors so i'll update later.
^^ if it doesnt crash or fail in anything you do, i would call it stable and move on. i always had a harder time passing blend but im not on a gulftown.
i play bc2 mostly, getting tired of overclocking for now. i run the i7 930 at 4600mhz to play the game with ht disabled, but i dropped vcore down from what it required to pass linx because it has run the game fine for many many hours with no issues at all. i ran linx a lot to get on that 4.5ghz linx stable thread but other than that i could really care less if it passed, as long as it does what i need it to without problems.
Hehe your like me. I did it just for that thread. Otherwise I tend to just run Hyper Pi 32M multi core and then if it passes just play games etc. After a while you get used to how the cpu behaves and just up a setting here and there then all good.
And good to hear Skuldarin. Btw 1866Mhz CL7 is fine I wouldnt have a problem with that. But understandable you want to run 2Ghz+ 12gb if possible
i just wanted to hit 2000 because it's been done and from the sounds of it, rather easily.
if LinX is just THAT difficult to pass then i'm just not going to worry about it and go by the other programs (Prime, PI, memtest) cause they all pass without any issue all the time. and like Nub says, LinX does require me to up vcore quite a bit over when i would deme stable through other programs. i only need about 1.43v vcore for it to pass everything else at 4.5ghz where as LinX wants me to put it to 1.47 which just sky rockets temps.
@ 4.5ghz / 1866mhz CL7, it passes Prime95 previously tested upto 11 hours and no hickups, it passes Pi multi on 32m repeatidly with no issue and it passes memtest easily enough aswell all without BSOD at the following:
vcore - 1.44v
vtt - 1.3125v
dram - 1.7v
IOH - 1.23v
PICE - 1.53v
uncore - 2800
link - 7444mhz
ratio - 29x155
cpu - 4.510ghz
mem - 1866mhz @ 7-9-7-24-72-2T
average temps - mid 70's
peak temps - 84*c on core 1, 82 on core 5, 79 on the rest
EDIT: not to mention the only error i get from anything at all is with World of Warcraft. it does get a critical error on a very RARE basis but other than that i don't have any issues.
i'll do more stress testing tonight but here's a shot just before i did about an hour of FFT-12k stressing. i used a memory size of 10512mb (left about 200mb headroom for whatever operations were going in the background). FFT-12k testing showed a peak temp of 89*c but there's much that i do that hardly gets the cpu past 70*c so i'm not worried about it.
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Just tested my board last weekend on dice
The board turned out to be quite good:)
250 mhz superpi 1M stable on my I7 920 and it booted fine with 255 mhz blck:D
If that kit is PSC based you will not get tRCD 8 stable over 2K. 7-9-8-20 should be doable to 1900 without flailing VTT after that you may have to go for a tRCD of 10 which is not worth it becasue you will lose access time on random reads until you hit a speed of DDR3-2100 or so vs a tRCD of 9 at DDR3-2000. The sense amplifier in PSC and the newer Elpida variants is not as aggressive as what was used in the now de-funkt Hyper. For sub-timings to start with check this image (tighten only when you pass your stability test).
http://img205.imageshack.us/f/hyper1945mhz798crop.png/
Be sure to enable extreme 0V in BIOS and turn off OCP to DRAM and perhaps VTT.
Later
Raja
hye guys..is it possible for me to hit 3600 uncore with my 1600mhz dram mem..??i've set the timings to 8-8-8-24/88..i've push my cpu vtt till 1.400..but keeps on error on linx after 11th test..huhu..any guide..? ..or i have to get the 2000mhz ram in order to achieve that 3600 uncore..?
a guy in hardwareluxx forum has an internal 0009 bios for gulftown owners with 3-4 new bios entrys
look
http://www.abload.de/img/zwischenablage0122nf.jpg
i can has?
I'm going to try to push this board for 3D tonight in a dice session. As per usual, I've had difficulty getting past the ~4GHz QPI wall.
Does anyone have any suggestions? My chip will WPrime 1024 at almost 5.2GHz so I figured it should be able to make it through Vantage around 5.1GHz. But then again, that's going to require a 243 BCLK and I've never taken this thing above ~225 without slow mode enabled.
Without slow mode i have managed to run some benches up to 238BCLK . Low temperatures help a bit .
I haven't tried 3D because it just doesn't worth it . Find a friend with a good 950/960(That can do over 5300 3d) or 980x and bench your VGA cards there .
What's your bench clocks with slow qpi ??? Did you manage to break 255BCLK wall ??
wonder if I can run this oc on water stable? Now it's on air
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Wow, what's your RAM running at?
nah i'm good with it at 1866 CL7 (7-9-7-24-72). it's prooven to be "stupid" fast so i'm not worried about it.
i DID get my first BSOD though, seems my vcore needed atleast 1.456v at this clocking. since i bumped it up to that point it hasn't done it yet and i've been gaming it up for... WAY too long :rofl:
play with it,and give Feedback to me
http://www.interupload.com/files/1Q3...0009.rar_links
I believe the last one I tried was 0806? I'll be using the most recent when I do the 3D runs. I was a little dead after work yesterday so I didn't do anything.
Bummer about the 238. I won't have access to anything other than my 920/W3520 until I get back to school and even then that's probably it. I need to find some local overclockers but I seriously doubt there are any nearby.
I've made it to 255 but not higher as I was only using 115 PCI-E. I was on vacation last week and haven't done any runs since mid-July. I'd like to get some in this weekend, though.
Juts got my R3E today. First Asus board in many years and I am far from impressed. Ethernet doesn't work. Takes 2 minutes to POST. Takes 4 minutes to exit BIOS & POST. Tried the 0901 bios and it does the exact same things. :down:
Yeah, trust us, the R3E is a lot quicker than that. You must have a defect somewhere.
^ please dont say "us", i am not impressed either lol.
For some reason, R3E runs my i7 920 at 20x multiplier under ubuntu while in windows 7 it runs at 21x. Bios was set at 21x. Anybody knows if there is a fix for ubuntu running 21x?
Can that board break 222 blck? I will be running a cascade as soon as ruffus finishes mine.
Anyways I've already sent the board back, and asked for a replacement. I'll give Asus another try. The R3E is pretty damn feature rich I will admit. I just hope the next one works properly.
^does that mean i get my money back?