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E8600 + CM V8Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
RE
Team Xtreem 2x1GB 1600
ASUS 4870 1GB
Antec Sig 850
Just the relevant specs.
So how?
And could anyone PM me the numbers that i should key in my BIOS extreme tweaker menu? for 24/7 stability and 4ghz and abv speeds.
A picture would do too....
Thanks!
try thisQuote:
Originally Posted by GregSG
should work
but before that
u need to find out whats the default vcore voltage for 3.33ghz and whats the set vcore in the bios to achieve the exact same vcore with loadline enabled
once uve done that
do this
cpu configuration.. disable everything except executable bit and multi core
multi 8
fsb 500
strap 333
ram 1600
set 1T 7-7-7-20 tRFC 110 first
disable static read and dynamic write
ai clock booster medium
performance level 8
vcore = as above default vcore for 3.33ghz stock
vdimm = ure rated vdimm for 1600mhz
vtt(fsb) - 1.12
loadline - enable
pll,nb,sb,sb 1.05 - lowest voltage aka 1.51/1.25/1.51/1.05
cpu 0 gtl +40, the rest on auto
nb dram vtt +12.5
dram channel a/b +25
spectrum disable..
run memtest86 test 5 for atleast 20 rounds without any error
keep changing ure vdimm until u get exact
once perfect
reduce the tRFC by steps until u can pass around 20 rounds
and then only run the full memtest86 for a atleast 2 hours - 4 passes
load into windows diagnotic mode
and try running interl burn test for around 50-60 runs.
have fun
btw for 4.25 ghz same setting above except
multi 9
vcore = stock vcore for 3.33ghz +0.1v...so example if 4ghz is 1.25v set then u put 1.35v...
if ure cooling is sufficient u can run inter burn test for 50-60 runs
take note this is for e8600 only.. common trait with all the e8600 i tested
'New' CellShock 1600 CS3222271 2x1GB (D9JNL ?)
I now have slightly better CL7 clocking than I did, but 900mhz is the maximum I can find for Memtest stability.
Max vDIMM before errors start is 1.90V (set in BIOS). So 900mhz/CL7 and 1000mhz/CL8 seem the limit for 86+/HCI.
CL7 up to 950mhz is mostly ok for 32M with ~ 1.96V.
Can get to windows / run Everest at CL7/1000mhz but can fail at any time.
However even if the max, 900mhz/CL7 opens up more of the board than the Transcend could - 562FSB/5:8/899mhz isn't great at CL8/tRD9, but starting to get pretty quick with CL7/tRD8.
For Read and Latency, 560+FSB/5:8/CL7/tRD8 takes over nicely from where 475/1:2/CL7/tRD6 gets to, and the board takes the strain instead of the DIMMs.
CS3222271 works ok with 0206/0403. 1001 seems good enough to keep using it with this kit.
could work as 4x1GB @ 800-900mhz/CL7, but not enough CL7 headroom for 2x1 on this board.
Using CS3222271 @ 1.90V, I have made a bit more progress with Blend, Large FFT and IBT stability at 500fsb/1:2/CL8, adjusting GTL and DDRref in line with some of cstkl1's recent recommendations :up:
All Voltage set in BIOS 0403/1001 (not measured)
Memtest HCI 2000% / 900mhz (1800) / CL7 / vDIMM 1.89V / vNB 1.40V
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/q...CI2000_CS1.jpg
475x9.5 / 950mhz / 266strap / CL7 / tRD 6 / CT Strong / vDIMM 1.96V / vNB 1.51V
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/q..._SP32_CS_2.jpg
562x8 / 899mhz / 333strap / CL7 / tRD 8 / CT Mod / vDIMM 1.90V / vNB 1.59V
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/q..._SP32_CS_1.jpg
I've included a quick IBT run aswell but more work needed for a longer test. vNB may go lower.
562x7 / 899mhz / 333strap / CL7 / tRD 8 / CT Mod / vDIMM 1.90V / vNB 1.59V
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/q...IB10_CS_1s.jpg
nice clocks cheap
heck its a coincidence..
i just got my 2x2gb stick stable for the gtl at 1800 Cl8 tRFC 60 tRD 9 at 563fsb vdimm 1.9(trying to lower this since memtest86 does 4 passes at 1.65) vnb 1.59 vtt 1.21( trying to lower this )
testing now with IBT
and man a lot of skewing this took ...
will post in a minute the full settings..
this thread is getting better and better by the day. atleast no rubbish and all good clocks..
didnt try 1001 ??
i still cant understand y memtest86 doesnt seems to be a good indicator for vdimm voltage.
cause ibt says otherwise
and loading into windows also says otherwise especially when it comes to 4gbs.
Not many here with Quads. This board needs a better bios for Quad cores.
Once I get my case up and running with WC I will be using this board with my QX9600 so will be able to give some feedback. I decided to go down this route because my S2E won't accept 8gb (I have chosen to go down the Corsair route for the memory on the X48 rather than OCZ).Quote:
Originally Posted by Think
cheap do u have a issue with 600fsb
bios shows 1800mhz
but everest and cpuz shows 2000mhz.???
4 sticks on this mobo..Quote:
Originally Posted by SimonD
is a cause for concern
cause its very chipset orientated at that point
Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
i have the same if 1800 set in bios on 400fsb strap, in cpuz shows 1000 |(ddr2000) , i am on bios 1001
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...8GB1600Mhz.jpg
8GB @ 1600 7-6-6-16 1T
400 strap divider bug showing in cpuz. the ratio is 2:3 so BIOS is correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
DerekT's screen :) does show a 2:3 ratio in Memset, but I think this is using the 266 strap as shown by DRAM:FSB ratio in Everest.
going up from 563fsb, if the DIMMS can do +900mhz/CL7, then 333strap/CL7/5:8/tRD8/CT Mod is a faster combination for chipset performance, than using 400strap with same real memory clock (600fsb/2:3).
over 600fsb, I found 333strap/5:8/CL8 is still faster tRD for tRD than 400strap/2:3/CL7.
Also guys, which tRD are you using at 600fsb on 400 strap ?
Using tRD8, I couldn't POST with 600fsb/2:3/CL7 on 400, only tRD9.
on 333strap, tRD8 still 'OK' with CL7 at +630fsb/5:8 - with good enough DIMMs (not mine).
Quote:
Originally Posted by cheapseats
Auto gives tRD 9 which is fine, ttRD 8 does post with enough Vnb but is very unstable, i hope i can get it stable with better cooling on the NB.
That is correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheapseats
A good bandwith 620 PL8:
http://images4.hiboox.com/images/500...81ff6536f2.jpg
and a 32M PL9:
http://images4.hiboox.com/images/500...af0193a371.jpg
to set coeff 8x I need my cascade or more :D
They move far less air, thus you hear less air movement, thus, they are quieter.Quote:
Originally Posted by aln688
sorry guys
wanted to post the 563 full setting
but i wanted to solve one issue
the 4.5ghz multi 8 issue when ure running above 1600mhz
first of all to do that high fsb
u need to manually set every skew
from cpu/nb and all the dram skews.cmd/clk/ctl.. u cant leave them on auto..
and i found out already how it works
but for 4.5ghz the multi 7.5/7 settings 4ghz 4.2ghz doesnt work because of the skews
i needed a definite proof.it was very easy to see the skewing gone wrong
when u run 3dmark06..the sm3 scores will vary eventhough memtest86 already says ure nb/dram voltages are perfect.
3dmark06 sm3 test very good test for high cpu clocks and skewing affects
but just go give in inconclusive hint the cmd/clk skews depend on ctl skews..kekeke and the cmd skew is dependent on the cpu/nb skews
so i did the cpu/nb skews .. so do the cpu/nb skews first.. nothing in auto then cmd and then clk and then ctl
Morning Cstkl1 & Cheapseats - some great posts on straps and performance level settings :up:. I decided to lower my multi to see what I can do and managed to hit 480FSB which I think is the limit for my setup although the temps were reasonable. Pretty good for a quad though :). Funny thing is my memory peformance reduced from 12k to 11.7k read and from 10k to 9.4k write.
Is it simply that I have moved beyond the sweet spot of my memory or is there any strap & memory settings that you could recommend ?. Currently I am on the 400 strap with CT on AUTO and tRD of 6 also from AUTO.
475
Attachment 90586
480
Attachment 90587
sorry rob cant help much on the quad
cause dont know the quad limitations for the ram /gtl and skews
anything i say or recommend would be assumptions
but for c2d the high mem clocks with higher bus
theres a link between the cpu clock skews... also found leave the nb skew to normal.
and mess with cmd/clk/clt skews
afaik i can tell on intial test
cpu skews reduces fsb vtt with higher bus speeds
nb skews does nothing and best left at normal
cmd skews and clk skews are nb voltage/gtl related
and clt skews are are vdimm voltage/gtl related.
hope this would help but again no definite answer but it was the key to get 563 stable
but didnt work on 4.5ghz.. only up to 4.22
Cheers for the info cstkl1 - I need to have a play to explore how the different settings effect one another. Might just bump the multi up another half and try to tighten the timings and leave it at 480. May even find some time fot a game or two then :rofl:
or another thing
if u had to raise the nb skews
be prepared to raise the pll voltages..
this is what happend whenever i tried for e8600 on 2-4dimms
last test
cheap
do u get inconsistent sm2/sm3 scores with 563fsb.. difference can be 1-2k for both sm2/sm3 scores at different runs
even though prime/memtest/ibt/memtest hci stable...
any idea whats causing this??
I would love to run 8gb ram on my Rampage Extreme, but $1k for ram is a little crazy. Currently operating with 4gb of the Kingston Hyper X DDR3. Will probably drop in another 4gb of the same HyperX very soon. Running a quad here (qx9770) with default settings (no OC) for past few months, it's a new build. Planning to crank up some OC soon, but not very far with the HyperX ram ? 4ghz air cooled seems very easy on this setup.
good runs guys I like to see 7-7-7 at 1900+ mhz ive pushed my Gskills about as far as they will go im sure 9-9-9 and 2t I can get well over 2000 but I dont want to use training wheels to get their stick with cas8 and 1t
you just need to pump up the voltage check this thread out.. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=199292Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozzfest05
i tested those sticks with my evga 790i board a while back and they overclock pretty similarly with my rampage extreme too :yepp:
Trying to reach a good Super Pi 32M under auto-cascade.
Everest gave me this:
http://images0.hiboox.com/images/500...6245455d6a.jpg
Super Pi1M:
http://images2.hiboox.com/images/500...d4c679e95e.jpg
Max fsb is:
http://images4.hiboox.com/images/500...ead1089f96.bmp
And max fsb valid:
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=462328
Stil can't finish a decent 32M, system crashes during the bench. Voltages are already at high value :D :(
4 hours :) my insulation isn't that bad actually... ('was doubting about it...)
Edit: Well I finished the 32M 620x9 PL8 as desired... that was... fun... :D :D
http://images4.hiboox.com/images/500...c78ed0dda9.jpg
after flashing to 0901 bios i cant load my OC settings ??? i flashed from 0501, now it always say my settings failed what am i doing wrong ?
these are my settings:
FSB Frequency: 450
CPU Ratio Setting: 09.0
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew: Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
PCIE Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 1801Mhz
DRAM Command Rate: 1N
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 8
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 8
RAS# Pre Time: 8
RAS# ACT Time: 20
CPU Voltage: 1.3500
Load-Line Calibration: Disabled
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.51106
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.10016
CPU GTLVerf (0): +70mV
CPU GTLVerf (1): +70mV
CPU GTLVerf (2): +70mV
CPU GTLVerf (3): +70mV
NB GTLVerf: +60mV
North Bridge Voltage: 1.51097
DRAM Voltage: 1.86881
NB DDRVref: Auto
DDR3 ChannelA Vref: Auto
DDR3 ChannelB Vref: Auto
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.51106
South Bridge 1.05 Voltage: 1.06039
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
rob2k, I found your combination of 400 strap and CT Auto gives some very nice results at 475FSB/1:2 :)
With CT AUTO, the 400 strap is a lot faster than it was....
I did some more Everest tests with 475x9/1:2/CL7. These are the best and worst results I got across the basic strap/CT/tRD combinations at that FSB.
All tests : 475x9 / 1:2 / CL7
266 strap / CT AUTO / AIBOOSTER AUTO (tRD7)
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/q...PLA_CS_EV1.jpg
333 strap / CT AUTO / AIBOOSTER AUTO (tRD6)
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/q...PLA_CS_EV1.jpg
400 strap / CT AUTO / AIBOOSTER AUTO (tRD6)
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/q...PLA_CS_EV1.jpg
---------------------------------------------------
with Manual tRD
333 strap / CT AUTO / tRD 6
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/q...PL6_CS_EV1.jpg
333 strap / CT Strong / tRD 6
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/q...PL6_CS_EV1.jpg
400 strap / CT AUTO / tRD 6
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/q...PL6_CS_EV1.jpg
400 strap / CT Strong / tRD 6
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/q...PL6_CS_EV1.jpg
@ cheapseats go 500 FSB and 2000mhz memory and see what timings you can achieve also I would like to see a better cpu frequency 4.5 or so with the 2000 mhz
congrats toyten good results all round, managed a 635 fsb , 600 is no prob but once i went over 615 had to up the northbridge volts to over 1.7, only problem i still have is running a high memory speed at a high fsb (over 600) no problems round 500fsb or less, any tips , i found highering the tref and manually setting performance level helped
http://www.gbwatches.com/pics/635fsb.jpg
anyone??Quote:
Originally Posted by quattro_
Hi, quattro,
Do you use a OC Profile for the eboot after flashing ? I had a similar issue willing to reboot on a Profile made under previous BIOSes. Tuning all parameters manually was the solution in my case.
In deed, the computer always rebooted everything by default, quiet annoying when one knows it was perfectly working right before the flashing. Hope I did help you
thanks for the reply ToyTen,
what is eboot??
ill try to input the settings manually and report back .
it's a kind of virtual boot unno :DQuote:
Originally Posted by quattro_
my bad, reboot was the word ;)
loool, it worked :) thank ToyTen
your welcome :)Quote:
Originally Posted by quattro_
It just happened again, coming back from 1001 to test more deeply the 0401 for Super Pi 32M on a C2D E8600. Glad I could help.
Anyone having corruption errors utilizing onboard Raid with 0 striping?
Three questions:
(1) What are these BIOS's that a user named "Kensek" is making, what is supposed to be special about them? Obviously Asus never released a 1001 BIOS so I assume this came from Kensek.
(2) When installing the Thermalright HR-05 IFX heatsink, where did you folks put the thermal compound, on the SB/NB chip, or on the bottom of the HR-05? Thermalright actually lists in their instructions to put it on both. For me, it make sense to put it on the bottom of the HR-05, the surface area of that is less than my NB chip.
(3) For RAM, is anyone running 8GB on this board? I have 4GB but want 8GB, my mild overclocking indicates the RAM will be running at stock 1600 MHz speed, i.e. 400 FSB, 8.5 multiplier, 3400 MHz (3.4 GHz), 1600 MHz RAM speed. I remember Intel's DX48BT2 board warned against installing more than 4GB, I saw no such warning on this board.
Thanks all.
Yeah I am. If you llok a few pages back (20? 30?) you will see my setting.Quote:
Originally Posted by aln688
No problems what so ever with 8Gb and 64bit Vista.
Running with 2 X 1TB RAID 0 Matrix and 2 X 1TB Speeding RAID 0. No issues. I have had to clone images back, but that was due to high FSB. Never an issue with failed RAID's. However, when the Speeding RAID 0 is enabled there is a halt while initializing in the Windows Boot. Halt is about 8 seconds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Think
8GB of Corsair 1600C7 running at 1600C7 (7-6-6-16 1T)Quote:
Originally Posted by MnM
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...08/Memtest.jpghttp://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...rekT2008/s.jpg
ASUS released a 1001 BIOS. I have it installed.Quote:
Originally Posted by aln688
Hi Cheapseats, cheers for the very informative post - some interesting results :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by cheapseats
Going to see if I can run my tRAS at your settings :)
Then one of my velicorators has failed after 2 months. Intel Raid 0 Rom indicates:Quote:
Originally Posted by DerekT
WDC WD1500HLS-0 (Error occurred (0)). I had my system imaged as well and re-installed but after a few hours I get BSOD and corrupt files. It might be the motherboard as well, not sure but I'm running the Maxtor 4.3 test on it to see.
Confirmed - Defective drive
my watercooling setup is almost done and I should be getting the HAF 932 around the new year for it dont know what to do phase change the 1200 and H20 cool the HAF seems more logical but then I need to rebuild both pcs but either way you should see me running 5ghz or 5.3 24/7 on the 8600 the phase unit is slowly coming along hopefully before the new year it should be finished aswell just waiting on some parts
They did? I checked Asus's web-site, the latest is 901:Quote:
Originally Posted by DerekT
Description Rampage Extreme 0901 Bios
Fix if use 2 pieces of HD4870X2 to build CrossfireX it may get no display from the VGA card which is inserted in the PCI-E X16_1 slot
File Size 915.62 (KBytes) 2008/11/25 update
Maybe their FTP site has something newer?
Excellent news, that inspires confidence that I can buy another 4GB of Kingston HyperX DDR3 1625 RAM modules and they'll work. I'll wait until around new year, hopefully they'll have a sale. Kingston's web-site discounts their RAM once it's in the basket, plus I have a 20% off coupon.Quote:
Originally Posted by MnM
A question to the overclocking gurus on this web-site...
If I'm overclocking my Q9550 stock 2.83 GHz to 3.4 GHz (FSB going from 333 to 400), do I need a fan on my Thermalright HR-05 which sits on the Northbridge chip? I have an HR-05 IFX/SLI on the SB and an HR-05 IFX on the NB. I'd really like to do away with the fan, but do have one if it's needed. I'm on air cooling only, no water cooling at all. I have 120x38mm Panaflo NMB-MATs on the front and rear of the case (one each), and a 92x25mm on the Noctua U9B CPU.
Thanks all.
Hi Aln688, I would try without first and if it idles below 40 then you should be fine - this allows 20 degrees under load with a mild overclock. My N/B maxed out at 65 degrees with 420FSB and stock cooling so use this for your upper limit.Quote:
Originally Posted by aln688
Hi, great mem, what vdimm, vtt, nb, sb voltages did you use for these tests?Quote:
Originally Posted by cheapseats
Another failed drive!!! This one is my WD4000YR backup storage drive on this board with the same error when running Western Digital latest bootable test. What the hell is going on:mad:
I've manage to boot at 3.6, and the temps are good around 34šC idle, but when i run prime95 I get errors, if i run prime's 1st option It works fine (Just CPU)
My System now is: Asus Rampage Extreme + Q9450 + Cellshock 14400 (1800Mhz) 8-7-6-21
Can anyone Please Assist?
My system Bios Looks Like this:
AI OVERCLOCK TUNER ==================== MANUAL
OC FROM CPU LEVEL ==================== AUTO
OC FROM MEMORY LEVEL UP ============== AUTO
FSB FREQUENCY ======================= 450
CPU RATIO SETTING ==================== 08
CPU CONFIGURATION:
CPU CLOCK SKEW ====================== AUTO
NB CLOCK SKEW ======================= AUTO
FSB STRAP TO NORTH BRIDGE ============= 400
PCIE FREQUENCY ====================== 100
DRAM FREQUENCY ===================== 1800
DRAM COMAND RATE =================== 2N
DRAM TIMING CONTROL ================= MANUAL
CAS LATENCY ======================== 8
RAS TO CAS DELAY ==================== 7
RAS PRE TIME ======================== 6
RAS ACT TIME ======================= 21
RAS TO RAS DELAY =================== Auto
REF CYCLE TIME ===================== 72
WRITE RECOVERY TIME ================ Auto
READ TO PRE TIME =================== Auto
READ TO WRITE DELAY S/D ============= Auto
WRITE TO READ DELAY S =============== Auto
WRITE TO READ DELAY D =============== Auto
READ TO READ DELAY S ================ Auto
READ TO READ DELAY D ================ Auto
WRITE TO WRITE DELAY S ============== Auto
WRITE TO WRITE DELAY D ============== Auto
WRITE TO PRE DELAY ================== Auto
READ TO PRE DELAY=================== Auto
PRE TO PRE DELAY==================== Auto
ALL PRE TO ACT DELAY================= Auto
ALL PRE TO REF DELAY================= Auto
DRAM STATIC READ CONTROL =========== DISABLED
DRAM DYNAMIC WRITE CONTROL ========= DISABLED
DRAM SKEW CONTROL ================= Auto
AI CLOCK TWISTER =================== Auto
AI TRANSACTION BOOSTER ============= STRONG
COMMON PERFORMANCE LEVEL ========== AUTO
PULL-IN OF CHA PH1 ================= DISABLED
PULL-IN OF CHA PH2 ================= DISABLED
PULL-IN OF CHB PH1 ================= DISABLED
PULL-IN OF CHB PH2 ================= DISABLED
EPU II PHASE CONTROL =============== AUTO
CPU VOLTAGE ====================== 1.40
LOAD-LINE CALIBRATION ============== ENABLED
CPU PLL VOLTAGEM ================== 1.55081
FSB TERMINATION VOLTAGEM ========== 1.40
CPU GTLVREF 0 ===================== +50
CPU GTLVRED 1 ===================== +50
CPU GTLVRED 2 ===================== +50
CPU GTLVRED 3 ===================== +50
NB GTLVRED ======================= +60
NORTH BRIDGE VOLTAGE ============== 1.55
DRAM VOLTAGEM ==================== 1.90
NB DDRVREF ======================== AUTO
DDR3 CHANNEL A VREF ================ AUTO
DDR3 CHANNEL B VREF ================ AUTO
SOUTH BRIDGE 1.5 VOLTAGE =========== 1.51106
SOUTH BRIDGE 1.05 VOLTAGE ========== 1.06039
CPU SPREAD SPRECTRUM ============== DISABLED
PCIE SPREAD SPECTRUM ============== DISABLED
ADVANCED CPU CONFIGUTION:
CPU RATION SETTING ================= 08
C1E SUPORT ======================== DISABLED
CPU TM FUNCTION =================== DISABLED
MAX CPUID VALUE LIMIT =============== DISABLED
VANDERPOOL TECHNOLOGY ============= ENABLED
EXECUTE DISABLED BIT ================ DISABLED
CORE MULTI- PRECESSING ============== ENABLED
So that's two drives you've had fail? If I were you I'd put your motherboard settings back to stock see if that makes a difference. Could it be your motherboard SATA controller (ICH9R?) is corrupting your drives somehow?Quote:
Originally Posted by Think
I believe it is now removed. It was on their forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by aln688
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us
Hi mrcape :)Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcape
some more details in my earlier post on this kit:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/FORUMS/...postcount=1704
so far the CS3222271 is OK for 32M at 950mhz/CL7 at ~ 1.96V, but I have to keep vDIMM as low as possible to avoid stability getting worse as vDIMM increases.
i found that any setting over 1.90V causes errors (in memtest86+/HCI). This (still) applies at all the clocks I've tested, so Memtest stable clocking is limited by vDIMM for now.
over 2.0V .......not so useful ;)
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/q...OM_EV_CS_1.jpg
voltages were just set roughly for the 475x9 Everest screens, but for 32M and IBT runs in the earlier post (linked above), here's what I used:Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcape
i'm just moving CPUPLL (with SB) around relative to vCore, and also to keep PLL above (or below) the vNB in use (including reported vNB droop).
475x9.5/1:2 (4512mhz) (32M)
vCore 1.3750 LLC on - higher than needed for 32M but already Prime/IBT tested.
vTT 1.39V - as tested with above vCore
GTLs +40, AUTO, AUTO, AUTO, NB AUTO - as tested with above vCore.
the rest roughly set for 32M pass, as DIMMs fail 86+/HCI at this CL7 memory clock.
vPLL 1.55V
vNB 1.51V
vDIMM 1.96V
SB1.5 1.55V
562x8/5:8 (4495mhz) (32M)
vCore 1.3750 LLC on
vTT 1.39V
vPLL 1.60V
vNB 1.59V
vDIMM 1.90V
SB1.5 1.60V
GTLs as above, but not tested further with these settings.
562x7/5:8 (3933mhz) (IBT x 10)
vCore 1.25V LLC off
vTT 1.26V
vPLL 1.51V
vNB 1.59V
vDIMM 1.90V
SB1.5 1.51V
GTLs as above, but not tested further with these settings.
I'm not sure. The drives are definitely defective except for the remaining WD velociraptor. Now the WD 400G is 3 years old but the 150 Velociraptor is only a few months old but what are the chances of both drives failing with the sameQuote:
Originally Posted by aln688
. It's not even a question if they are defunct so now I'm going to switch the remaining drive over to another sata connection and check.Quote:
Code 0225 - too many errors found
WOW, this is freaking me out!:eek:
That's really odd, I've never heard of anything like that. Try this, it's the LifeGuard Diagnostics for your drive, burn it to CD and boot from it, making sure the defective drive is plugged in a SATA port:Quote:
Originally Posted by Think
http://support.wdc.com/product/downl...sid=30&lang=en
Good idea, attaching a fan isn't a major operation either, especially with the metal wire clips Thermalright provides.Quote:
Originally Posted by rob2k
For the thermal compound, the instructions say to apply it to both the HR-05 and the chip, do you think only applying it to the HR-05 will be sufficient? Applying it to both seems like too much TIM will be between the HR-05 and the chip.
Thanks so much, I'm glad I asked. I hadn't realized there was an NB droop. I'm not yet shooting for IBT stability, just 32m stable with mem as fast as possible at high fsb. Will be benching a few e86 soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheapseats
I have 2 kits I've been testing, a Kingston HyperX 2000mhz 2x1gb kit and Gskill 1600mhz HZ 2x1gb kit. I can confirm the Gskill are D9GTS ICs, not sure what's on the Kingston, but the Gskill are doing much better. Haven't tried going below spec vdimm on either kit yet. The Kingston are rated 2.0v, which seemed high, they are really flaky so far. The Gskill do well at 2.1v. I'll try a wider range soon.
Looking forward to reviewing your posts later.
Regards
Edit - also should mention I'm running 401 bios, is there a better one out?
Hi Aln688, agreed - I would apply it to one only - usually the one with the smallest footprint which is the chip on the motherboard in most cases. I'm sure the TIM looses effectiveness when it is too thick.Quote:
Originally Posted by aln688
That's how I arrived at discerning the faulty drives. I even used the WD program to ZERO the drives but no luck they are both FUBAR. In all my years I've never encountered 2 drives being damaged on the same system - it's not logical. At the moment I'm still running my primary Velicoraptor and added an additional drive for back and will keep them closely monitored. If this happens again then I'm going to look for a sata controller card.Quote:
Originally Posted by aln688
Some CL8 32M runs, with the CS3222271. CL7 to follow.
32M details: XP SP2, 1 hard disk, no tweaks or C/W, tREF adjusted in Memset as shown.
BIOS 1001 and 0403 / vDIMM 1.90-1.95V / vNB 1.6-1.72V
a 200/333 strap comparison first :yawn2: (0403 BIOS)
500x9 / 1:2 / 333 strap / CL8 / CT Strong / tRD7
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/q..._333_32m_1.gif
the extra Read from 200 strap/tRD 6 beats the 333strap/tRD 7 by almost 2.5 seconds for 500x9 time.
500x9 / 1:2 / 200 strap / CL8 / CT Strong / tRD6
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/q..._200_32m_1.gif
the board loosens at 500FSB on any strap, so booting at 499FSB gives better bandwidth and latency.
(2-300Mb/s Read and 0.5ns Latency difference going from 499-500FSB for same other settings)
500x9 / 1:2 / 200 strap / CL8 / CT Strong / tRD6 / tRFC 72
(499FSB boot + 1mhz FSB Joystick + tREF 16383T)
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/q...1000_32m_1.gif
I gave up trying to get 'close' to 10 minutes with CL8 and 4500mhz
499x9.5 / 1:2 / 200 strap / CL8 / CT Strong / tRD6 / tRFC 72
(tREF 16383T)
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/q..._998_32m_1.gif
500x9.5 / 1:2 / 200 strap / CL8 / CT Strong / tRD6 / tRFC 72
(499FSB boot + 1mhz FSB Joystick + tREF 16383T)
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/q...1000_32m_1.gif
Everest scores might have been better but CPU stuck at 50% load after 32M :D
625x7.5 / 5:8 / 333 strap / CL8 / CT Auto / tRD9
(tRFC AUTO (110) / tREF 6240)
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/q...6_SP32_CS1.jpg
What I wonder about is, how is a new SATA card going to help? You think the ICH9R damaged the drive somehow? I would think it's electrical, maybe the PSU, that's more likely than the drive controller damaging it. My old Raptor had a five year warranty, does yours have the same? I'd send it to WD and see what they say. Just an idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Think
http://images1.hiboox.com/images/510...97e2d53cfb.jpg
This mobo really kicks asses :D
Nice 32m runs Cheapseats. Best efficiency I got so far war 11min flat at 4ghz. Iknow acouple guys were able to get around 10:50 with copywaza tweaks, maxmem etc..
Edit - wow, toyten that is a nice run
Yes, they are both being sent out with expedited replacement. I can't see it being the powersupply since they were still operating but generating errors until one finally collapsed. The other Velicoraptor that works has always been connected to the same powersupply so the only conclusion could be the motherboard IC9 for those particular ports?:shrug:.Quote:
Originally Posted by aln688
Don't know but will soon find out with these drives installed and running. I will test them thoroughly to see what happens in the next few days.
Thanks.
Could very easily be the PSU. If your PSU is unhappy with the balance of the load you're splitting across the different rails, or it's just not great quality, you're possibly getting high ripple. Lots of ripple == components that operate fine for a while, since they're getting the "right" voltage, but die because of minute fluctuations. What is your PSU?Quote:
Originally Posted by Think
It could very well also be your controller, by the way...I've only heard of a controller doing that once before (680i), but I supposed it could happen again. :shrug:
PCPower 860Watt unit - 3 months old running:Quote:
Originally Posted by DeathWalking
- # 860W Continuous (930W Peak) @ 50�XC
- # Heavy-Duty Caps, Inductors, Heat Sinks, Etc.
- # External Fine-Tune Voltage Adjust (+3.3, +5, +12)
- # Premium Sag and Surge Protection (.985 PFC)
- # 80+ Certified Ultra-High Efficiency (84% Typical)
- # +12VDC @ 64A/70A Peak(Powerful Single Rail)
- # Ultra-Tight Voltage Regulation (+VDC @ 1.5%)
- # 24-pin, 8-pin, and 4-pin M/B Connectors
- # 4 PCI-E and 15 Drive Connectors
- # NVIDIAR SLI Certified (up to Dual 9800 GX2)
- # CrossFire Certified
- # Ultra-High Reliability (200,000 Hr. MTBF)
- # Individual 14-point Certified Test Report
- # Industry's Strongest Warranty Program (7 yrs)
Running:
One - Asus 4870x2
Intel QX9650 - 4Ghz
4 Gigs of ram
2 Velociraptors 150 each
1 WD Cavalier 400G
1 Plextor DVD burner
7 120mm fans
2 fluorescent black lights
2 12V pumps - Swiftech MCP655
Not much. I had a 750was PCpower running more then that at one time without a fuss. System is running so far, Primed for 12 hours without a problem but you never know.
I had all three harddrives on one of the single 3 prong outputs of the powersupply so maybe it was too much for that rail?...hmm..wonder how I could figure this out?
I'm using cellshock 1800 and a q9450, my voltages are:Quote:
Originally Posted by cheapseats
at 3.6 (450*8)
and if i use 2x1gb I can run prime95 without problems
AI OVERCLOCK TUNER ==================== MANUAL
OC FROM CPU LEVEL ==================== AUTO
OC FROM MEMORY LEVEL UP ============== AUTO
FSB FREQUENCY ======================= 450
CPU RATIO SETTING ==================== 08
CPU CONFIGURATION
CPU CLOCK SKEW ====================== AUTO
NB CLOCK SKEW ======================= AUTO
FSB STRAP TO NORTH BRIDGE ============= 400
PCIE FREQUENCY ====================== 100
DRAM FREQUENCY ===================== 1800
DRAM COMAND RATE =================== 2N
DRAM TIMING CONTROL ================= MANUAL
CAS LATENCY ======================== 8
RAS TO CAS DELAY ==================== 7
RAS PRE TIME ======================== 6
RAS ACT TIME ======================= 21
RAS TO RAS DELAY =================== Auto
REF CYCLE TIME ===================== 72
WRITE RECOVERY TIME ================ Auto
READ TO PRE TIME =================== Auto
READ TO WRITE DELAY S/D ============= Auto
WRITE TO READ DELAY S =============== Auto
WRITE TO READ DELAY D =============== Auto
READ TO READ DELAY S ================ Auto
READ TO READ DELAY D ================ Auto
WRITE TO WRITE DELAY S ============== Auto
WRITE TO WRITE DELAY D ============== Auto
WRITE TO PRE DELAY ================== Auto
READ TO PRE DELAY=================== Auto
PRE TO PRE DELAY==================== Auto
ALL PRE TO ACT DELAY================= Auto
ALL PRE TO REF DELAY================= Auto
DRAM STATIC READ CONTROL =========== DISABLED
DRAM DYNAMIC WRITE CONTROL ========= DISABLED
DRAM SKEW CONTROL ================= Auto
AI CLOCK TWISTER =================== AUTO
AI TRANSACTION BOOSTER ============= AUTO
EPU II PHASE CONTROL =============== AUTO
CPU VOLTAGE ====================== 1.35000
LOAD-LINE CALIBRATION ============== ENABLED
CPU PLL VOLTAGEM ================== 1.56
FSB TERMINATION VOLTAGEM ========== 1.33
CPU GTLVREF 0 ===================== +50
CPU GTLVRED 1 ===================== +50
CPU GTLVRED 2 ===================== +50
CPU GTLVRED 3 ===================== +50
NB GTLVRED ======================= +60
NORTH BRIDGE VOLTAGE ============== 1.55
DRAM VOLTAGEM ==================== 1.90
NB DDRVREF ======================== AUTO
DDR3 CHANNEL A VREF ================ AUTO
DDR3 CHANNEL B VREF ================ AUTO
SOUTH BRIDGE 1.5 VOLTAGE =========== 1.51106
SOUTH BRIDGE 1.05 VOLTAGE ========== 1.06039
CPU SPREAD SPRECTRUM ============== DISABLED
PCIE SPREAD SPECTRUM ============== DISABLED
ADVANCED
CPU CONFIGUTION
CPU RATION SETTING ================= 08
C1E SUPORT ======================== DISABLED
CPU TM FUNCTION =================== DISABLED
MAX CPUID VALUE LIMIT =============== DISABLED
VANDERPOOL TECHNOLOGY ============= ENABLED
EXECUTE DISABLED BIT ================ DISABLED
CORE MULTI- PRECESSING ============== ENABLED
but if i try using 4x 1gb I can only ruum 2 testes without errors,
I've raised th nb voltage to 1.59 and I can run 4 prime testes then th cpu reboots.
In single post here u say that can be usesd 4x1gb ajusting ddrref acoirding tho recomendations, do you know what is the value?
I want to put my system stable at 450*8
Can you please help?
This mobo really DOES kick ass :D
All air (intel stock cooler), i was looking for a max fsb, haven't found it yet :p this is a wall caused by temperature/voltage equation i believe:
MAX FSB Valid 650 would crash during validation !
More to come this weekend (ln2)
PCPC is a great manufacturer. Besides that, that unit (or at least it's 1000W big brother) controls ripple superbly. The only better power supply you can get at that wattage is the Antec Signature, and that's only for slightly better voltage regulation. Seriously. That thing is great. One question though: are you using the true SATA connectors, or the ones adapted from the Molex leads?Quote:
Originally Posted by Think
nice one how much volts on northbridge
Quote:
Originally Posted by Diegis0n
The true sata connections are being used.:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by DeathWalking
Quote:
Originally Posted by GLENBOY
Most important settings i used:
DRAM SRC disabled
DRAM DWC disabled
vcore 1.4
LLC enabled
FSB TV 1.35
CPU GTL Vref (0) +40mv
NB 1.6
NB DDR Vref +12.5mv
SB 1.5 @ 1.6
SB 1.05 @ 1.1
What's not listed is or on auto (CPU/NB clock skew and DRAM skew control as well!) or irrelevant
thanks diegis on i got to 635 using higher northbridge but other settings were on auto (cpugtl and nbddrvref both sbs) i'll give it a bash
thanks
Glen
Quote:
Originally Posted by Diegis0n
No problem
With those settings, i boot @ 635 no sweat ;)
Considering your PSU is an excellent model and I personally don't think it's the ICH9R, it could be the drives themselves. You made an interesting point about the ports on the board being faulty, that is a possibility but I haven't heard of anyone else having this type of problem. Regardless of the problem source, I hope you get your repaired drives back quickly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Think
I agree...I don't know what the problem could be. The model is great, and the ICH9R is unlikely to kill the drives. If it were bad, it could corrupt them, but it's unlikely to kill the drives through the SATA cable.Quote:
Originally Posted by aln688
The PSU could be defective (unlikely), or it could be that you're drawing too much power through one cable (also unlikely). Please keep us posted!
I was playing around a lil more with watercooling on cpu:
Link :up:
I've got the micron D9GTS working nicely, but does anyone know the best settings for the Samsung ICs with this board? I have seen no improvement going from 401 to 801 bios. Is there another I should try? Am I missing something about Samsung and this board?
So far with the samsung I can get 2000 with CL9 trd7 but I can't get sub timings very tight and the efficiency sucks. Is there some different skew or trd/twister combo that I need to use with these? The GTS was smokin fast.
I think what you're "missing" about the Samsung is that the Micron ICs are far superior.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcape
Really? I thought some were getting good results with these. I still have the opportunity to return these and get more micron.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeathWalking
Then take this opportunity ! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcape
Havenīt seen any good oc-results with samsungs for a long time ( and not one good/impressive result on DDR3 ).
This is the best I've had so far from the CS3222271 (CL7/960mhz), with 32m stability :)
vNB 1.65V (set) is quite reasonable for tRD8.
No OS tweaks or C/W for these runs.
I have also tried since with silver theme, maxmem, Large system cache and SPiTweaker,
and together they take about 8 seconds off the 10m09s time. May get a bit more with experience.
Quite useful as the subtimings won't really tighten at this memory clock (if I want to finish the run).
vDIMM levels already causing errors, and unusable above 2.0V (set)
600x7.5 / 5:8 / 333 strap / CL7 / CT Mod / tRD8 / tRFC 72
(599FSB boot + 1mhz FSB Joystick + tREF 16383T)
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/q..._959_32m_1.gif
599x8 / 5:8 / 333 strap / CL7 / CT Mod / tRD8 / tRFC 72
(tREF 16383T)
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/q..._958_32m_1.gif
Hey guys, nice thread, I'm enjoying reading it, but am only part way through. I am looking at possibly getting a Rampage Extreme, and I would like to know if the Team Xtreem 2GB DDR3 PC3-12800 C7 (2 x 1GB, 1600Mhz) kit that uses D9GTR IC's plays nicely with this board?
Nothing special but i did this with my Samsung HFC0 based Gskill mem:Quote:
Originally Posted by Smooth
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...amsungHFC0.jpg
Sold this mem cause it didn't like CAS 7 much over it's rated speed, not even with 2.05V.
Thanks for the heads up guys, going to grab more micron.
i can't speak for that particular kit, but i've had no probs running GTR IC's (cellshock & ballistix)Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
@ Pyro - Great thanks that's good to know.
Same here D9GTS (CSX diablo) runs flawless on this board.
I just got mine, got to finish writing some papers then I'm devoting serious time with those babies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
Hey there just moved from P5Q-Deluxe (Considering the CL4 bandwidth issue) to DFI-UT-X48-T3RS and then back to Asus: Rampage Extreme.Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
Actually I've got both 3 main Micron IC's memory module all from Crucial. They're:
CL12864BA1067: Curcial Value CL7-1066 D9JNL
BL2KIT12864BA1336: Crucial Ballistix CL6-1333 D9GTR
BL2KIT12864BE2009: Crucial Ballistix CL9-2000 D9GTS
From my rough tests so far...D9GTR runs without any problems.
With this kit I can get
CL7-6-5-18 1T tRFC 48 1800Mhz 7/24 Stable @ 2v
CL6-6-5-17 1T tRFC 48 1600Mhz 7/24 Stable @ 2.08v
But no luck with 8-7-6-21 2000Mhz even @ 2.15v.
While D9GTS has really impressive results:
CL9-9-9-24 1T tRFC 60 2000Mhz 7/24 Stable @1.84v
CL7-6-5-18 1T tRFC 60 2000Mhz Dual PI 32m Stable @2.09v BIOS
But D9JNL's result is really disappointing:
CL7-7-7-21 1T tRFC 110 1664Mhz random freeze @ 1.9v
Any higher voltage will result in either memtest error or random freeze.
I was wonderin if there are some compatibility issues related or so?
For my own question: Does somebody know how to adjust DIMM VTT? Seems the DRAM vREF setting isn't doing a thing to DRAM VTT adjustment?
for d9jnlQuote:
Originally Posted by ci2kla
the freeze issue i solved it with nbb dram vtt +12.5 and channel a/b at +25
theres other test to show the adjustment of vtt needed and also skewing of cmd/clk/ctl
so far for myself
cmd is 1N-2N related with cpu vcore for orthos small fft
clk is nb gtl/voltage...orthos blend then custom min max 4096 fft
ctl is dram vtt related.. +nb voltage related...with orthos blend then custom min/max 4096
Cheapseats & ToyTen,
Guys you have one hell of an oclk rig there. I am reasonably knowledgeable in the Oclking scene but for the life of me I am baffled with this issue.
I have the same CS3222271 2x1GB CellShock & a C2D E8600 Rev E0 but I can never get my FSB to go higher than 400 on your MemSet parameters on a 333 FSB Strap.
I have used as much as I can gather from this thread the necessary volts increases and applied but still no luck. All my setting in Bios are on Auto except for the strap...
Could you list your modified settings in Bios with the relevant increases in volts please.
Many thanks
Yeah I'll try that later...thanks mate...Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
for the cmd/clk/ctl skew I can't get what you mean...can you explain more?
nothing amazing but i thought i'd see what fsb and ram speed i could get orthos stable on my e8600 Q822A435 on the rampage extreme, stopped it when over an hour (thats enough for me :), the q822a435 i have loves low volts and is orthos stable at 4360 at 1.272 volt real at a lower fsb, but mine runs hot for the volts used, the cpu is on watercooling as is the northbridge
Volts used
cpu 1.28 (1.2875 set in bios llc enabled)
northbridge 1.54
vtt 1.40
ram 1.93
cpu pll 1.51 set in bios
http://www.gbwatches.com/pics/600fsbddr32000orthos.jpg
Nice mate :up:
cheers loc.o you've had some amazing results recently yourself congrats m8., weird board the rampage but once its stable its rock solid
it seems for me 4.4 with 490 fsb is so easy even with low voltage but 4.5 with 500 fsb is being a b atch to say the least its like the hump I need to get over to bigger and better things I will do it but I want to get my watercooling stuff put in it first for lower temps and I want to stay under 1.30 volts for 4.5 which should be easy considering 4.4 im at 1.24 but its been a journey with it so far I was thinking changig bios versions currently on 0503
team just certified their pc3-16000 2x2gb for RE
hi frank :) - sorry for the late reply and hope you've sorted it already. My own 4x1 experience is too limited to make any useful suggestions - my max 4x1GB clock was 800mhz (1600)....CL8 :D No quad here either.Quote:
Originally Posted by frank.lopez
Also Frank, the DDRref settings that I mentioned testing, were for 2x1GB D9JNL and at 500FSB/1:2/CL8/vNB 1.60/vDIMM 1.90
(I used NBDDR +12.5 and A/B DDR +12.5).
@ ragheb
hi ragheb :), are you using a RE with CS3222271 (D9JNL) - same as me ?
I think ToyTen's kit is CS3222270 (D9GTR) :sonic:
Happy to post my CS3222271-based settings, but for which clocks ?
Also what happens above 400FSB on yours ? Is your kit memtest stable at rated 800mhz/CL7 - mine needs about 1.68V for that.
Hello and Merry Christmas to you all :toast: hope Santa bought you lots of new technology :D
Had a little spare time whilst the wife is at work so I decided to have a play with Intel Burn Test to see how stable my settings are. Well the IBT stresses the system a lot more than running HyperPi on all 4 cores. CPU temps reached 71 although my rad fans are set to 70% speed to keep things at a sensible noise level.
Here's where I maxed out 472FSB and 1888 memory .........
Attachment 91767
Not bad for a quad so I'm pleased with the results. I think the memory would go more as I kept the timings tight but the CPU just managed to pass 4Ghz and would fail the test around the 4030Hz mark.
Nice results ;)