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Originally Posted by slim142
thank you :up:
What is better?? Linked or unlinked?
q6600- 400x9 1600mhz
7-7-7-20 800 1600mhz
Regards
Any getting Distored Audio when scrolling through the forums? I cant figure out what it is.. If I run stock I dont get it
These results are all running in unlinked modeQuote:
Originally Posted by |SiLA|
P1:Auto P2:Auto
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2...autoye9.th.jpg
P1:Enabled P2:Enabled
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/5854/p1p2ls8.th.jpg
P1:Enabled P2:Auto
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8...autodi6.th.jpg
P1:Auto P2:Enabled
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9...top2eh4.th.jpg
This one below is with Linked and synced
P1:Enabled P2:Auto
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/4...syncnq6.th.jpg
It looks like you get almost the same memory bandwidth expect gaining maybe a tad on copy. I don't know about the stability though. Will have to test more.
Since P1 is the one that gives the Bandwidth, I will now try to prime with P1 Enabled and P2 on Auto. Will post back
Hey guys. Just got my 790i running with some cellshock 1866 ram. Everything was wroking fine except the ram running at a very slow speed.
I tried updating my bios to PO4 and received an error message. When I rebooted, my error checker is now stuck at FF. It doesn't cycle and the board won't boot? Does anyone have an idea how to fix this?
I am pulling my hair out over this Distorted Audio With this board.. I am starting to think its because I am running RAID 0..
Maybe using a 3rd party raid card is better? anyone having this issue?
Hi,
Im buying this Ram OCZ SLI RAM 2000MHZ EPP2.0
Since it is SLI ceritfied, the problems mentioned in this thread still gonna happen?
What ya think of this ram?
Looks nice but 2gb????
I've been again and again through the threads about 790i Ultra SLI in this forum, reading again and again those stories about data corruption, which I absolutely believe. Also it seems that some settings working for some don't work for others on similar hardware configs, which obviously means that at least the Asus Striker II does not have a regular production in terms of quality, results, performance, a real nightmare :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by QuadSLI
Now the other thing and the reason why I post now is that I've been already thinking about these EPP 2.0 sli certified RAM modules, supposed to be the only ones fully compatible with the Striker II Extreme, and unfortunately unavailable until...well a few minutes ago according to the link provided by "QuadSLI". So I'm asking the question again: could the use of non-EPP2.O ram modules be actually responsible for data corruption issues, bsod etc...with the SIIE ? I'm not saying that it's the case, just looking for opinions.
I'm planning to build a new rig in a few weeks from now, based on SIIE, but after what I've read, I'm almost ready to either give up SLI for single NVidia, or even CrossFire (depending on what ATI will do in may-june) and run a 100% Intel mainboard.
off topic: I also read that Intel will probably stop giving NVidia any license by the end of this year, when the Nehalem and the new chipsets/sockets come out. Finally!!! as that will most likely force NVidia to give away SLI for Intel chipset mobos.
I've been again and again through the threads about 790i Ultra SLI in this forum, reading again and again those stories about data corruption, which I absolutely believe. Also it seems that some settings working for some don't work for others on similar hardware configs, which obviously means that at least the Asus Striker II does not have a regular production in terms of quality, results, performance, a real nightmare :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by QuadSLI
Now the other thing and the reason why I post now is that I've been already thinking about these EPP 2.0 sli certified RAM modules, supposed to be the only ones fully compatible with the Striker II Extreme, and unfortunately unavailable until...well a few minutes ago according to the link provided by "QuadSLI". So I'm asking the question again: could the use of non-EPP2.O ram modules be actually responsible for data corruption issues, bsod etc...with the SIIE ? I'm not saying that it's the case, just looking for opinions.
I'm planning to build a new rig in a few weeks from now, based on SIIE, but after what I've read, I'm almost ready to either give up SLI for single NVidia, or even CrossFire (depending on what ATI will do in may-june) and run a 100% Intel mainboard.
off topic: I also read that Intel will probably stop giving NVidia any license by the end of this year, when the Nehalem and the new chipsets/sockets come out. Finally!!!
sounds like the bios is corrupted, did you try to reset it?Quote:
Originally Posted by FuriousSalesman
i guess whatever fsb/mem combo you tried wasnt stable, at least with the settings you used... :/
i dont think sli certifaction makes any difference whatsoever... sli memory = 2 things, tested by nvidia and EPP2.0 profile.Quote:
Originally Posted by QuadSLI
afaik nvidia certifies the memory on their own boards, not on asus gigabyte or other mfg boards. and EPP doesnt really make a difference compared to configuring the memory manually. for EPP 1.0 there was a drive strength setting etc, but for EPP 2.0 there is no additional setting that really changes anything, at least afaik...
EPP 2.O detection and profiles are part of the Asus SIIE bios, with NVidia chipset; so certified and usable on this Asus mobo. OK that's only about profiles, I was just wondering; could have no impact on all those fsb and ram issues experienced by users not running EPP 2.O ram. That was just a question.
What is EPP2.0 then, i think is the same like EPP2.0 on DDR3 (stored profiles)Quote:
... configuring the memory manually. for EPP 1.0 there was a drive strength setting etc, but for EPP 2.0 there is no additional setting that really changes anything, at least afaik...
PS. Striker II Ex BIOS 601 was deleted from Asus site (whats wrong is with this version?)
I've had this problem since the 680i with my x-fi (same with 790i now). You using an add-in card or the on-board? For x-fi cards, the issue has generally been around use of SLI. I've pretty much given up on creative, and now nvidia for the most part... just need to good x48 board to come along... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by X2beach
i find on 790i boards there indeed holes
eg 1600 mhz on cpu fsb is a hole on 0601 because I could not even get past the windows boot screen, however an 1800 FSB in sync mode alowed me to get past that and see a BSOd.
Very odd results.
canislupy, I tried both Onboard Audio(Which is a Addon Card) and PCI-E SB X-FI Extreme Audio they both do it
check the EPP 2.0 whitepapers, i didnt see any reference to drive strength in it...Quote:
Originally Posted by OBR
there are long and short profiles, short are like a normal spd profile with vdimm and 1 or 2 chipset timings. long profiles have extra chipset/memory timings. for EPP 1.0 it included drive strength, for 2.0 there wasnt anything about drive strength at least iirc.
ok, let me try to answer your question as good as i can, but you should ask ocz since its their memory and only they know what profile exactly they use and how it affects the chipset.Quote:
Originally Posted by Logos4
but beeing optimistic, at best what the profile can do is configure the memory propperly at 2000mhz memory speed with the right combination of chipset and memory timings and voltages.
i dont see how trying different memory and fsb combinations which results in fsb holes would change if the memory has an epp profile...
so no, im 99% sure it wont affect the fsb holes at all.
hmmmm i had this problem too iirc... on an asrock kt266a board i used for a folding machine :DQuote:
Originally Posted by X2beach
i dont think i ever found a fix for it... it only happened when i oced the cpu/fsb to really high speeds... hmmm did you try changing the pciE speed?
did you try different slots for the soundcard?
I have the pcie speed at 100mhz I am going to try and move the card to different slot tonight.. thinking about getting a Asus sonar card also
Many thanks for the posting of 0601 bios. Finally have a stable setup. :up:
thanks for your post. I actually thought the same. It's just that since NVidia and Asus are keeping so desperately quiet (yeah, "we're agressively lookin' into it" :D ), I was wondering what hadn't been tried yet. But yes, it's definitely the chipset that's responsible for all the trouble.Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
For people interested on this EPP 2.0 and love OCZ memory I would go for this one
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...tCode=10008353
EPP 2.0
Runs @ 2000Mhz at 9-9-9-24.... but runs at 9-8-8-24 when paired with an 790i :)
Only disavantage is 2Gbs I believe but they must be some nice chips since they do all of this with only 2.0v :)
Unfortunately I already have my G.Skill... but once is time to upgrade to 2x2Gb, I will go OCZ to try them out :)
I've been away for about 6 months and come back to read more nforce horror stories in this thread (just read the last few pages). This 790 is really reminding me of my horrible 680i experiences when it was first launched. This is so disappointing because because like most of the rest of you, I want SLI. Damn you nvidia. Let intel make the chipsets and you just concentrate on GPUs.
If you guys had it to do over, would you go with 680 780 or 790? Or are you feeling like me and thinking about going intel and crossfire.....
Glad to see you all again. Well off to read some more. Its time for a new system. I sold all of my sig stuff and put it into a reef tank. Time to start over!
I hope Intel doesnt give NVIDIA its license for QuickPath that way NVIDIA will have nothing to offer but its SLI license.
NVIDIA gets basically all their profits from gfx, not from motherboards...
NVIDIA already has QuickPath license from last NOVEMBER! Dont believe every crap on internet ...
Anybody figure out the voltmods for the EVGA/XFX boards? esp vcore and vdimm..
Also is there any way to reboot ( from bios ) so it wont shut off first before it boots? Thanks
Maybe helpful.Quote:
Anybody figure out the voltmods for the EVGA/XFX boards? esp vcore and vdimm..
Also is there any way to reboot ( from bios ) so it wont shut off first before it boots? Thanks
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=181677
RLM
:eek:... wow probably missed that.:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by OBR
they don't...coming back in a minute with a couple of links...Quote:
Originally Posted by slim142
here:
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...=6320&Itemid=1
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/d...essor_Bus.html
OK the content of those articles might not prove anything, but I haven't found anything so far saying that NVidia was granted the new license for QuickPathInterconnect. And I really hope they won't. they just deserve that.
Any problems with EVGA 790i and OCZ3P1600EB4GK that non EB has? Had to change my order from OCZ3P16004GK or wait another 10 days.
Thats the last thing I read about this topic regarding NVIDIa and CSI from Fudzilla thats why I thought NVIDIA didnt have the license yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Logos4
And yes I hope they dont receive it because they simply cannot keep up with their chipsets even though 1% are capable of running good.
I just did my best to read through this entire thread (yes all 42 pages) and although I probably missed a few things I got a basic understanding of all the pros and cons of this chipset. With that said where are people initially finding all these BIOS version for the Striker II Extreme that are not listed on the Asus website? I realize people have asked this question but there really weren't any specific answers?
At the moment (in the last 10 minutes) there are only 3 BIOS versions listed on Asus's website (0101, 0402, and 0508). Along with that the website lists BIOS version 0402 as being released on 04/14 and 0508 being released on 04/03. This is very interesting and I can't make heads or tails of it?
Some people have mentioned Asus's FTP server, well can somebody post a link for this? Also is it alright to pull files from this location or is it akin to piracy? I'm no expert with that stuff, hence why I'm asking?
At the moment I'm using BIOS version 0511 which came on my board when it was delivered (bought it used). So thanks for any help anyone can give, much appreciated!
Does anybody have wierd screen flickering when gon over 450 FSB. I Had to raise the PCIE to 110 for the flickering to go away,but then my PC locked up.
I have to play around some more. This could be a driver problem also. I am on XP and will try to install vista and see what happens.
This thread and the corruption thread make me feel sick. I was really looking forward to a good chipset from Nvidia... Has anyone gotten the 4GB ddr12800 G.Skill kit working with this board? I need to know, so I can RMA it if it wont.
I would like to know that too Razor
I would start with BIOS 0511 then work to 0601 then now as of 2 days ago BIOS 0603 which I am on. I went from 0511 and using my Q6600 was able to hit a 1800 FSB. And on my QX9650 I was able to hit a about a 1820 FSB. Then I went straight to the 0603 BIOS and I could'nt get anything stable on my QX9650 above a 1700 FSB. I was aiming for a 4GHz OC Prime95 stable. So I decided to throw back in my Q6600 and give it a go. And again nothing over a 1700 FSB stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
Thanks Lu(ky, but where are you getting these BIOS files from? I've searched a handful of regular BIOS sites with no luck (tried googling for Asus ftp but it looks like you need some kind of user name and password to get access)? I assume that is where you guys are getting these files from?
With that said I'm going to see how far this 0511 gets me, depending on the results I'll make the change to 0601 like you suggested. Thanks again man, your help is greatly appreciated!
........................#266 of this threadQuote:
Originally Posted by GAR
@GAR: am I dreaming this did you originally had a SIIE mobo?
The reason I ask is that I had to SIIE's mobo is from two different retailers but both have the same problem, and my original Striker Extreme is currently away at repair, here is my story of woe :
1) both mobo shipped with BIOS# 0405 (I read somewhere that this was a beta BIOS), which couldn't be updated with the Asus recommended Award Flash or even my trusted older award Flash version 1 .18, so I couldn't get into even the BIOS with my 9800G X2 on my 4 GB ocz memory, although 2 GB and an older 8800 GTX was my only solution.
2) myself and Asus don't seem to be getting a long at the moment. Let me explain. With the two above SIIE faulty, one returned to one retailer and a full refund and the other retailer refusing to take take the motherboard back for a refund and insisting an RMA back to Taiwan for repair after only a week's ownership, post and packaging at my expense. That's not it, my original third older Striker Extreme is on its way back to Taiwan for repair due to the Vista service Pack 1 and the inaccessible onboard Asus gigabit ethernet Microsoft knowledge base known issue I am getting on to four weeks without a high end mobo. I'm sure you feel my pain!
I wouldn't mind but I have a entry-level 1333 FSB ASRock £45 motherboard that runs the 9800 GX2 with a cheap 650 watts £45 win pro PSU combined with the 250 W Thermaltake GPU PSU no problem on my Intel core two duo 805 CPU effortlessly, whereas both SIIE (from different retailers) and my Q6600, 4 GB /2 GB OCZ DDR 3 memory, £98 mid-range ASAKA 650 W PSU combined with the Thermaltake GPU PSU combo twice hasn't even got off the ground, never mind overclocking.
Any EVGA 790I sli Ultra or any other mobo manufacturers fun boys care to educate me as to why I should switch to their preferred mobo after my horrific experiences with Asus?
Cheers guys and girls as I need a lifeline here before I throw in the towel.
Here is a links to the Asus Striker II Extreme 790i BIOS 0603 from (PMP) Also here is another link with all current Asus Striker Extreme 790i BIOS from BenchZowner (0402,0507,0508,0509,0511,0512,0601)Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
ive finally given up trying to get this striker II extreme board working stable with ocz ram, ive tried 2x2gb OCZ1600EB sticks and 2x1gb OCZ1333 both do exactly the same and crash in windows in around 2 hours of prime95, more if i just leave it idling. in any case ive ordered 2x1gb supertalent projectX 2000 to test if the board really doesnt like ocz memory and should be here friday.
Bump for some answers. Has anyone been successful with G.Skill RAM on the EVGA?Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor_Blade
Very, very cool! Thank you much my friend!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lu(ky
On a separate note, despite my best efforts any FSB speed above 1333Mhz results in no bootup? I've only spent a few hours working on it but this shouldn't be so difficult, lol! Thankfully there are a few other BIOS versions to check out!
Aight so here are some updates
Got tired of all of this drama and Im giving a try to the Striker II Extreme (Yeah ya all heard me right :P )
Will see if this motherboard can challenge me face to face :)
lol, I love that one! :D I wish you luck :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by slim142
Well, if you run them at stock, then 680 780 and 790 are all... fine...Quote:
Originally Posted by nugzo
they are just not good at ocing, half of the boards semm to freak out every now and then... at stock speed the 790 is the fastest of the 3, and it supports cpu independant pciE link assertion between 2 videocards, so sli perf should be slightly better with 790 as well.
id say if it HAS to be sli, and you want it stable and reliable, then go for 790 BUT couple with with some 1333 memory and DONT overclock it at all :D
wow.... wow... yet another AWFULL asus expirience... yikes...Quote:
Originally Posted by optical10
ohhh i see, your one of those types then, you like pain and suffering dont you? you probably have a collection of whips in your basement :DQuote:
Originally Posted by slim142
well, crossing my fingers that you get one of the bugged striker boards so you get all the suffering you are looking for :D
your chance to get a bugged board seems to be 50% by looking at the poll, so you have a fair chance :D
well my super talent project x 2000mhz 9-9-9-28 ram arrived this morning, ram voltage is set to 1.50 in bios about 1.55 real and ive been priming for about 4 & 1/2 hours now with no lockups, seems my striker II really hates running stable with ocz ram wonder if this can be fixed with a bios update in the future?
Noooo! I dont like pain and suffering! I just like pleasure and satisfaction :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
Why you wish I get a bad board :down:
I just want a nice board which can give me a nice OC so I can be happy :cool:
Looking forward to get my board!
It seems like I got a good board on my 2nd Striker II. Problem is Priming now.
I can't get all 4 cores to prime stable at 4 ghz (400x10) with 1.3625 Vcore and 1.36VTT.
Any suggestions on how I can get it higher/
I am thinking on messing with the GTL Ref ratios..
Not really. I cannot run my memory at its standard 1600MHz at any timings.Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
WOW, 1.36 VTT for 400 FSB. Mine does 445FSB with 1.28VTT and am prime stable for like 4 hours without any cores crapping out. I will keep it going and post a screen shot and my settings tomorrow morning. It's almost 2AM here and am tired.Quote:
Originally Posted by Broly
You're also running 24 TRAS man. I'm running 20.
That's huge.
I lowered VTT and it's giving me the same result. I :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing hate when 1 or 2 cores don't live past a few mins. I am trying to figure out how to fix it.
tekjunkie, if you get your system estable when you wake up, please post your BIOS settings as Im not really into mV and the GTReF lines and I wouldnt really know what to do in case problems happens.
Btw Ill be using a Q9450
off topic:Quote:
Originally Posted by slim142
saw in your sig...
slim if you really want the Armor+ you might just as well buy the non-ESA version now. You might be able later to buy the ESA module - it's just a card/panel to plugin fans + PSU USB connector etc... Not one hundred percent sure this will be sold separately but honestly, ESA is just about NVidia propaganda imho. You can get most of the info (except the PSU though) through other panels and software.
Actually Siverstone even make some ESA panels:
http://www.silverstonetek.com/produc...MD01-ESA&area=
hope that helps
I got my evga board back from step-up today. I took 4 weeks, so while I have been waiting I have seen all this bad stuff happeing. So I hoped mine would be OK. But with an E8400, 2x8800GT and Kingston 1600 7-7-7-20 2GB it's not stable at stock. It crashes in CoD4 after 2 mins. I have tried a lot of gtlf volts, and vtt's. But 10 mins of CoD 4 is the most i can get out of this board. And that was with Vtt 1.35 and -0.25mv. Lowering the ram to 1333 doesn't do diddily, nor do any vcore. I will continue to try combinations of volts, but I was looking forward to play some games after 4 weeks without a computer. Is there any hope P03R2 is better than P04?
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Originally Posted by Broly
Quote:
Originally Posted by slim142
BOOYEAH!!!I finally nailed it. 14 hours of being prime stable @445 FSB for 4GHZ on my QX9650. It looks like my QX9650 likes somewhere around .64x and .65x GTL.
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/8...5fsblp3.th.jpg
@ Broly, I am ruuning 18 TRAS with my Gskills 2x1GB sticks. I am getting my OCZ EB 4 gb sticks which was RMAEd Monday.
@Slim, Hang on buddy, let me reboot and see the exact GTL settings. On top of my head it's like -31mV and -32mV, but let me makse sure. Also, your mileage may vary with your yorkie.
Lower your VTT, thats on the brink for any 45nm CPU... use 1.1-1.2VTT then find your proper GTLVREF's from there.Quote:
Originally Posted by hifiking
Ok, I have been trough 1.2 aswell. Will try 1.1 now.
Ok, here are my settings for 445FSB prime stable for 14 hours with no errors on any cores.
QDR/RAM=1780 Unlinked
PCIE1/PCIE2 = 100
SPP<-> MCP= Auto
vCORE=1.375(1.344 in windows per cpuz)
Loadline =Enabled
vTT = 1.28
PLL=Auto
vDIMM=1.9
vSPP =1.46
vMCP = 1.55
CPU GTL_REF0 = -29mV
CPU GTL_REF1=-32mV
I am gonna run 3dmark06 in a loop, to see how 3D stable I am.
Oh, I'm running linked... I care about that setting alot.
Yes, I was thinking about that because Im really tired of waiting and im getting my stuff next week and with no case, Im nowhere since I wont have anywhere to put my stuff. Thermaltake said they will NOT sell the ESA module separately but I been thinking about it and is just a fan controller with fan readers which Im probably gonna use once or twice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Logos4
Ok so you lowered the REF0 to -29 and the REF1 to -32, since we have yorkies, this settings might also work for me in case I run in trouble. What I want to know, what are the default settings for REF0 and REF1? Because what I plan to do is to lower those settings by -5 until I find the spot. Also, do you manually imput this or does it show you a panel with options? like -30, -29, -28 etc etcQuote:
Originally Posted by tekjunkie
BTW, Congrats tekjunkie :up: nice job now show to us that you are 3D estable and also might want to run some other benchies to be 100% sure :)
EVGA 790iU 24/7 Stable settings w/Q6600 + 2GB Micron D9GTR + SLI 8800 (G80)
Computer been on for 2-3 weeks, gaming, DLing, Watching HD + looping it all night every night, web surfing, formatting HDDs, transferring 350GB around just for fun etc etc.. NO HANGS/Freezes or BSODs in XP or Vista Ultimate under any circumstances.
Q6600 G0 @ 3.55GHz
444 /1777FSB x 8
Linked and Synced
P1 + P2 Enabled
Timings: 7-7-7-21-1T (All other sub-timings auto)
CPU Vcore: 1.50 (Bios)
FSB VTT: 1.35
Memory: 1.95V
SPP: 1.40V
MCP: 1.50V
GTLVREF +35mv all lanes (works at +%2.6 - +%2.7 no matter the VTT all the way down to 1.20VTT and even upto 1900FSB)
Virtualization: enable
All other CPU features: disabled
Hey 5010, thats a golden mobo... or should I say a patient user with goals accomplished :)
Couple of questions
Do you keep your FSB at 444 because it wont boot at higher FSBs speeds or because it gives you corruptions/bsod after 444?
For Q6600, I think you need to increase GTLREFs 0 and 1 and for Yorkies and Wolfys you need to decrease them right?
Hmm I got a stable 3dm06 of 20487 with 1600mhz FSB synced with 10 multi.
:banana::banana::banana::banana:ing prime :(
Neither actually, I set 1777FSB / 7-7-7-21-1T as a sort of "personal goal" before I even got the board in my hands, I find it's good to have something to work toward. Besides that, I wanted to make it absolutely 100% 24/7 commercially warrantiable so that I can reproduce these settings on PC's I'll be building in the future at work, one failure in this respect is a complete failure. Another reason is that 1.95V is about as much as I feel comfortable with giving the RAM on a 24/7 Basis aswell as 1.50Vcore on the CPU, atleast while on air cooling alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by slim142
However I have mapped some preliminary stability settings at 475/1900FSB linked and synced w/ P1 & P2 @ 1T but the board or perhaps the P04 BIOS dislikes a 7X multiplier and using 8-9X gets the CPU zipping along pretty fast for air alone to consider it as 24/7 and warrantiable. Might end up going that route for my own rig here since I plan on replacing the RAM and CPU anyways but in all honesty I'm very pleased to have achieved my goals and except for benching there's really no use in getting my CPU/FSB any faster since when benching CRYSIS @ 1900FSB I saw *0 performance improvement over my current settings I cant really justify any real world performance gains over the reduced life expectancy of my components by going any higher :)
Stay tuned though I may just defeat 1900FSB for the fun of it :up:
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As for the GTLVREFs - I personally found that I had to adjust all lanes equally to attain the best stability but yes Kentsfields do tend to like a higher ratio while yorkies and wolfies like it lower.
I can be rock stable with 3dmark06, OCCT...but Orthos is pissing me off. I finally got to the point of being rock stable with OCCT for hours and hours but orthos just doesn't like my system. changing my VTT/GTLs got me stable with OCCT.
5010 what's version 2 of the 790i?
CPU-Z reads the board as "132-CK-NF79 | 2"Quote:
Originally Posted by Broly
w/ Chipset Rev. B1
Mine says B1 but not version 2. Mine's an S2E so i dunno
Quote:
Originally Posted by slim142
3dmark06 stable for 3 hours. It pissed me off when it the driver crapped out on me the first time, but when I looked @ ntune, I realised thta SLI was disabled and I enabled it and everything worked fine. I don't know why disbling SLI would crap the driver out.
3DMark06 with gfx @ default
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/2...rk06ew1.th.jpg
3DMark06 with moderate OC of the gfx
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/1...06ocrd9.th.jpg
Its in intervals (dunno of how much, ive never really been bothered to check).Quote:
Originally Posted by slim142
And i have a Q9450, and ive tried literally every GTLref in the negatives from when it literally wont boot, to the minimum value closest to 0, and still i freeze 10 minutes in to Call of duty 4/Crysis.
Lol my values never have frozen. Just don't prime stable. Screw prime :(
I got the version 2 board. I have been using cod4 as a stability test, and it freez in max 10 min regardless of gtrlf or vtt. So I continued to other tests. OCCT at least 20 min stable, stopped it myself
3DM06 gfx tests 20 min stable, stopped it myself
memtest86, 20 min stable, stopped it myself
The only way I can freez this board is CoD4, or hours of occt/orthos might do it, but as long as cod4 freez I know there is a problem. I am gonna try some OC now.
My 1600 Kingston memory does 2000 at 8-8-8-20-1T and 2.1v, but performance is best at 1600 7-6-6-12-1T
was jk man :DQuote:
Originally Posted by slim142
damn :/Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyke
are you sure its not the mem tho?
does it work fine on another board or 50mhz lower or higher than 1600?
dude, tras doesnt really have an impact at all... :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Broly
wow... kingston bins very lose... so the mem should def be fine...Quote:
Originally Posted by hifiking
not even 1600 or 1333? i mean lets say its a config problem, and if configured rght you can get the board stable... but thats not ok... how many hours is it supposed to take tweaking to get the system stable at stock? :S
and you disabled p1 and p2, right?
sweet, finally some good news :DQuote:
Originally Posted by tekjunkie
thanks for sharing your results :toast:
nice!Quote:
Originally Posted by 5010
thanks for sharing! :toast:
either your not 100% stable or... the nvidia driver just crapped outlike they tend to do :DQuote:
Originally Posted by tekjunkie
dont forget the statistics microsoft released showing one 3rd of all reported vista crashes were caused by buggy nvidia drivers :lol:
im going to update the first post of the 790 corruption thread now :)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=183119
I ran OCCT for 20 min at 500 FSB now, a temp sensor in this board is drunk, 93C with E8400 and 1.35vcore?
Using gtlvref -0.1 and -0.05 and 1.35vtt.
I am doing some idle stability testing now, just browsing folders and reading mails. At 550 FSB I get 4E boot code and half the bios post screen. Suppose the cpu want some ice for that.
I tried your settings as posted here, but there's one concern.Quote:
Originally Posted by tekjunkie
While cpuz reports 1.344v vcore, everest and Asus probe II both report 1.42v.
LLC enabled overvolts ~.05v on my board, and 1.42v is kinda the scary region for 45nm, (at least that's what I've read so far).
I'd be careful in that voltage region, I like to stay below 1.37 with LLC enabled which will give me a rock solid 3.8 which I'm happy with.
what different SOFTWARE tools report has nothing to do with what the real voltages are at.
they ALL read their values from the same single resistor/register! and this register/resistor is never spot on, never...
and even if its reliable at lets say 1.3v real measuring 1.31v, at 1.4v real it might measure 1.35v and be way off...
so all software tools use a different formula to calculate their final values, which they get from a probe which is never spot on to begin with...
So if 2 tools show 1.3v and one shows 1.4 it doesnt mean you are most likely at 1.3v...
you might as well be at 1.5v and they all misinterpret the values.
Plus if the bios is updated the probe might report different values than before the bios update...
the decent tools like cpuz and everest read the values directly from the probe, but most tools from asus gigabyte etc only read the bios values
and those values change depending on the algorythm the bios uses to interpret the values from the probes.
if you REALLY want to know what voltages your using then theres only one way... meassure them with a DMM :)
and that is pretty much guess work with variables because your DMM could be off and your readings will vary greatly from ground point to ground point.Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
your vCORE is what you want to believe it is ;)
Hi all,
I need some serious help with my EVGA 790i and Q6600 G0, with my old board P5N32-E SLI(680) I could run the chip stable at 3.6Ghz all day long but now I have swapped to the 790i board I cant even get it stable at 3.6Ghz :(
I have tried some of the settings that people have been using in this thread but all to no avail.
System is as follows
Q6600 G0
EVGA 790i Ultra SLI
Corsair Twin3X 2GB DDR3 (2x1024MB) TWIN3X2048-1333C9 DHX 1333MHz
Etasis 750W PSU
CPU and Gfx on water, cooled with a Thermochill 120.3
If anyone can help me out here I would be hugely grateful :)
Cheers all
Demon^
Some new info on my freezing problem. I can run ortos/occt 3dmark etc as much as I want. CoD4 lock up in minutes.
So I tried 3dmark in full resolution, 1920x1200. Lockups in minutes, tried a few times now. So, is there a bandwith problem here? I can't tuch the pcie frequncy even 1 mhz, I get post code 11 if i trie, any value. I'm going to play cod4 at a lower resoluton now to see if there is anything to it.
EDIT: cod 4 at 1280x800 crashes in 1 min, so it's a dead end.
I can play crysis @ medium quality @ 1024x768 to my hearts content. Move it to very high @ 1440x900 and ittl crash in about 20 minutes.Quote:
Originally Posted by hifiking
Cod4 @ highest quality @ 1680x1050 will crash in about 5 minutes. I think its definately a bandwith problem.
prime can DIAF for me because I'm having no problems gaming lots, but only in PRIME!
Prime is causing problems for me aswell.
Has anybody tested the NB GTL yet on the SIIE? Do we still go in the negatives if we own a wolfdale? Or does it not apply to the NB GTL.
Post all your voltages so we can help you and see whats not right. Probably too low or too high vtt?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coupa
:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
BTW, I will do my best to appear on that first page ;)
Ok, where did this version 2 came from?Quote:
Originally Posted by hifiking
Try to use 1.20vtt and 1.30vtt to see if that solves anything. Since you have an E8400, dont go higher than 1.38vcore and also make sure when you change your GTLREFS settings, you change them equally. For ex: if its REF0 -20mV and REF1 -10mV, change them to REF0 -30mV and REF1 to -20mV. I think 5010 mentioned this in a post.
Also, make sure you run memtest86 (from DOS) for your RAM, 2.1v is waaay too high for a 24/7. I wouldnt go higher than 1.95v and 2.00v if you have a nice heatspreader or fans on top of them.
You should also try to use 2T because many experience problems running at 1T.
Finally set your SPP to MCP frequency to auto and lock PCI-e frequencies to 100Mhz.
Hope that helps
Another GTL to mess with? I didnt know there was such thing as NB GTL. Well, since we have 2 people so far who are stable and didnt mess with it, I wouldnt touch it at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Myke
Thx slim142:
I'v been trough most vtt from 1.1 to 1.35 with gtlvrefs from 0 to -0.40. And then different values for ref 0 and ref 1. Best so far is -0.1 and -0.5 with vtt at 1.35
Using the mem at 1.95 for 24/7
Tried 8-8-8-25-2T and the freezing in cod4 wasn't changed.
And 3DMark vantage has been on loop for quite some time now, no problems at stock resolution. Is there a way to increase pcie stability?
Yes it certainly exists.Quote:
Originally Posted by slim142
From AnantechQuote:
NB GTL_REF Ratio - [Auto, Default, -126mV ~ +160mV] The NB (SPP) GTL reference voltage provides the same functionality as those for the CPU, the only difference being that the Northbridge uses only a single value. Tuning in the right GTL reference voltage (usually near the nominal 67% value) can sometimes lead to lower stable VDIMM requirements.
Yeah but that needs HIGHER values for quad 45nms. Not LOWER if you read.
I used this, it's useful sometimes ;P
Tried between 1.20 and 1.36, all go and freeze mid game.Quote:
Originally Posted by slim142
Although later today i might go start playing even more with them. Someone said lower VTT voltages for 45nm help so i might do the whole range of tests - every gtl ref voltage that will boot with every available VTT between that range (wow thats gunna take some time, but its really all i can do).
Try leaving VTT at 1.20 and start lowering your GTLrefs. I see a lot of prople with VTT at 1.20. You can also check what are the voltages 5010 and tekjunkie are using to see if that helps you in something.Quote:
Originally Posted by hifiking
If you say you are still having trouble, then I recommend you run memtest86 in DOS and run 2 standard tests and 10 times test#5 to see if there is a problem with your RAM sticks, if there is, RMA them or try another kit?
Best estability for pcie is to leave them at 100.
EDIT: Hey hifiking, try this
QDR/RAM=(your RAM speed) Unlinked
PCIE1/PCIE2 = 100
SPP<-> MCP= Auto
vCORE= (your vcore)
Loadline =Enabled
vTT = 1.28
PLL=Auto
vDIMM=(Manually put the stock voltage and timings for your ram)
vSPP =1.46
vMCP = 1.55
CPU GTL_REF0 = -29mV (this is from a qx9650)
CPU GTL_REF1=-32mV (this is from a qx9650)
You might also want to try different RAM speeds like 1650 instead of 1600, or 1605, 1610 etc
Also, I would try increasing your vcore (REMEMBER, DONT go higher than 1.38-1.40 ok?)
Didnt really notice that, but are you guys messing with it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Myke
It certainly does help in many cases.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coupa
@ everybody
I recommend you check your RAM sticks with memtest86. I know most of you dont use floppies anymore but this utility is really helpfull so you dont run the risk to BSoD or corrupt anything on windows.
I usually go with the temps of my core. If I am atleast 30 below tjmax I am happy. I also don't go with the actual temps reported by any of the utilities either. Since there is no documentation for the tjmax on the desktop chips, I rely on the direct reading from the DTS.Quote:
Originally Posted by nuclearjock
Memtest is the very first thing I do, when I start changing anything in BIOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by slim142
I start with test #6. I have noticed that with low VTT or low SPP voltages, memtest just freezes in test #6, with low vDIMM or higher VTT than required Test #6 shows errors.If I get atleast 3 good passes for test #6, I run Memtest for 3 full passes.
Also, I am getting my RMAed OCZ EB 4Gb sticks tomorrow. Will keep you guys posted.
http://i30.tinypic.com/2nhe0p4.jpg
Voltages at 450MHz + Xeon 3350 (Q9450)
I need 2.0V DDR3 because unstable 3D games ... now is everything fine (using Ultra SLI)
http://i31.tinypic.com/ie0c2a.jpg
Is 24 hour Prime95 Blend stable, 10+ hours OCCT MEM + CPU test ...
Temp of CPU with watercool in OCCT 55C ...
http://i26.tinypic.com/bha91g.png
Here is Xeon + memory settings: 20-7-7-7 P1,P2 Enabled ...
PS. Something new in 0603 BIOS?
OBR - Tried your settings with my Q9450, freeze in 2 minutes on Cod4.
Im using BIOS 0402 which may be why, i dont have P1 or P2.
What BIOS are you running?
What BIOS version are you on??. By the looks of it, it's below 0603. I say thisQuote:
Originally Posted by OBR
as I noticed something different in 0603. As soon as you go above 1.30V VTT, the color changes to yellow.Something to take note of. I guess the engineers @nvidia or asus, determined that anything above 1.3 VTT is stepping into danger area given that the people @ AT blew their QX9650 @1.36VTT.
When I was running 0601, I had the GTLs on Auto and prime errored out on 1 my cores consistently @ a given point of time. But, with 0603, prime errored out immediately with GTL on Auto, with the same exact BIOS settings. Not that means anything, as there are two many parameters here to come to a conclusion, but I just want to throw it out there. It could very well be the different BIOS versions tune the GTLs differently on AUTO.
Also, 0603 gives the same memory bandwidth as what you have posted, but without P1/P2. The article @ AT said that they keep P1/P2 on Auto below 1900 to be stable. So, I guess P1/P2 does do something detremental to stability, albeit giving more memory performance.Also, Ryder and Tony of OCZ recommend P1/P2 on Auto if running below 1900.
With the evga this is the closest I get, and it still freez. I'm going to try memtest again later today when I am leaving.Quote:
Originally Posted by slim142
vtt 1.25
vspp 1.45
vmcp 1.55
gtl0 -30
gtl1 -30
As you can se it increases by 5.
Well, ive never seen a DMM beeing really off... whats the highest youve ever seen a DMM to be off? 0.02? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by 3oh6
And yeah, i also had trouble with different ground spots in the past... but you just gotta check all the ground spots against each other to find a propper one :D that always worked for me at least...
so do all you guys with 3d instability and pciE ocing problems use the S2E?
Iirc the asus 790 board has a different pciE clock signal than the reference board wich made pciE ocing very unstable or impossible.
Could it be that bad that it actually crashes at stock speed when the pciE bus is really stressed with high bw? hmmm
Evga forums are full of freezing in 3d games too arnt they?Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
But the PCIe bus being the problem does make alot of sense, in that i havnt frozen when ive just been using CPU, RAM and HDDs, but as soon as you start using the Graphics cards, in the PCIe slots, then you start running into problems.
Id plug in a PCI graphics card and have some fun on...erm...yeah. But the problem of course is that i can run some of the lower powered games for as long as i want without crashing. Is there a way to just stress the PCIe slots?
Coupa - i am on 0601, and no freezing in games ... i played this weekend whole Rainbow Six 2 without any crash ... game completed successfully with no problem.
Most important thing in stability of 3D Games is timing and voltage of MEMs ... my Corsairs are crap and it is very hard to do them stable ... with another TeamGroup modules i am happier.