What drivers are installed? disable the HDMI audio device if installed, it is a long shot, but worth a try. Download Process explorer from microsoft, do a search for sysinternals. Post a screen shot of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan7171
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What drivers are installed? disable the HDMI audio device if installed, it is a long shot, but worth a try. Download Process explorer from microsoft, do a search for sysinternals. Post a screen shot of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan7171
Ok I think I fixed it I did a system restore and reinstalled the chipset drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by charged3800z24
The only things installed were the chipset drivers and I did the windows updates. that was it! so it stopped.:shrug:
ok I found it it was my cd/dvd-rom drive driver which updated itself..........right after, the problem started again, so I disabled it for now, problem solved.
Weird, glad it is fixed. I have never had that happen before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan7171
I'm trying to tweak my IMC/RAM timings but my board fails to post with an HTRef >250.... Anyone else tried this or had this problem? :shrug:
Since the 1600 Mem divider fails too it's the only way I can get RAM clocks up.
I know the board is capable of higher HTRef clocks. I've had it up to ~275 on stock NB v's using ET6 and AOD...
BTW: VERY nice work with the IGP OldTimer & Wuttz! :clap:
EDIT: New Bios "F5" is available.
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/M...ctID=3342&ver=
yea its a liteone IDE drive...........Windows 7 installed its version of the driver and I guess theres a problem with it. Drive would run full speed the disk refused to eject and it wouldnt read the disk that was inside anyway. Mind you its the same drive I installed windows with so it works fine. Just that dam driver messing up:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by charged3800z24
I havent started messing with the bus but I can say that 1600 works for me I have it set at 1600 8,8,8,22,30.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daveburt714
On the bad side the onboard graphics wont finish 3dm06 and Im getting corruption in the bios and windows desktop.:( cpu is stock NB 2400/htt2400, memory 1600 IGP stock..........so I dont know what the deal is. Im gonna see if I put my graphics card in if it does the same.:shrug:
Thanks for the heads up Titan7171.. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan7171
I haven't tried booting at CL8, it may work with the divider @ 1600 but I'd really like to stay @ CL7 if I can!
Nothing is set in stone (of course) and I may play with CL8 down the road, if it will boot at 1600...:)
I did flash the F5 bios tonight, and managed to get my machine to boot @ 257 HTRef (which is an improvement)!
I'm still playing with this board, it feels different from the UD4P and the bios has alot of new options to play with... I just have to figure them out... :p:
Overall, I've gotten better results on the new chipset (work in progress). ;)
Here's a SS of what happened tonight:
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...0_890GX_CB.png
I'm working with a new Board and Ram at the same time, so I'm not sure what is making things better....
I'm pushing 2.8 IMC though! I was lucky if I could get a complete CB10 @ 2600 on the UD4P... :p:
Thanks again for the new board Simon!
I'm diggin the 890GX so far... :D
ok well its getting worse windows started one time with the 5970 on it I installed the drivers and then it never booted again. I tried both sticks of memory seperately and I tried my 4850x2 and the 5970.......both turn on fans spin but screen never turns on.pulled tha battery and unplugged it to no avail.
heres spme screens of the setup
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...1/P3250339.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...1/P3250342.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...1/P3260348.jpg
and a video of what its doing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTlid9Am3nA
Looks like IGP os toast but.......try using 1 stick in white slot furthest from cpu.......Drop ram divider all the way down and reflash board.
Ill try again tomorrow.......its been 7 hours doing this windows installation drivers......downloading apps and semi testing then 4 hours of troubleshooting.......I hope it works!
Not sure how much this will help Titan, but normally when I get screen couruption like that memory voltage is too low...
If you just get sparkles around the Windows logo on boot, it usually means the IMC voltage is too low...
I have to admit, I've never seen it quite that bad, but it looks like you may need a little more juice on the RAM...
Good Luck Bro! ;)
was running 1.605 into the ram.......thing is I cant see the bios anymore its all jibberish......and the system will start only if I clear the cmos before every restart. I also tried using the dual boot but both bios did the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daveburt714
This is what My board did also. Bios was weird etc. Mine was fine with the 5850, then nothing worked at all. Fans spin and that is all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan7171
:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
HD4290 3D Performance Evaluation
Test Platform
AMD Phenom II 965BE 3.4GHz, CPU-NB@2.0GHz
Gigabyte 890GPA-UD3H/HD4290 IGP
G.Skill DDR3-1600 CL9
Silverstone ST-1000
Seagate 7200.12 500GB/16MB
Screenshots : http://s664.photobucket.com/albums/vv4/wuttzi/HD4290/
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/v.../HALFLIFE2.png
HOC DEMO ONE
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/v...ALFLIFE2-1.png
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/v...ALFLIFE2-2.png
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/v...ALFLIFE2-3.png
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/v...ALFLIFE2-4.png
HOC DEMO TWO
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/v...ALFLIFE2-5.png
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/v...ALFLIFE2-6.png
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/v...ALFLIFE2-7.png
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/v...ALFLIFE2-8.png
HD4290 is very capable of mid-range gaming! :up::up::up:
Looks like my son might get an upgrade from his 790 GX.
MSI 890GXM-G65 MB all tests @4.3GHz. on Windows 7 RC 64-bit.
965-C3 @4.3GHz
Corsair GT 2000 CL8 except 8GB see Performance Test 7 below
Test drive =4xOCZ 30GB Vortex SSD drives in Raid0 Partitioned as 20/100GB, boot drive=80GB-IDE
GFX=IGP 4290 @940/667MHz air cooled
CPU cooling =chilled water (windshield washer fluid) fluid temp=-10/-15C
I improved some of the test results as I worked the HTT up a bit more. I ran the HTT up to 279 today but that’s when the system refused to boot backed it down and it booted right up. It will boot and test at 270 though. I didn’t keep trying different settings maybe tomorrow lowering the memory divider may allow higher HTT as it did earlier?
This MB running the original bios doesn’t like any IGP changes in the bios setting when the HTT is clocked up as it usually won’t boot. I need to drop the HTT down 10/20 clicks then make the IGP changes, reboot and then raise the HTT to previous over clocked setting.
3DMark01
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...7MHz22063s.png
3DMark03
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...81116score.png
3DMark05
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...t6801score.png
3DMark06
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...73058score.png
CrystalMark
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...38149score.png
Performance Test 7
I knew this test liked more ram but I didn’t have four matching sticks so I set the bios memory setting to auto then removed the two sticks of Corsair GT 2000 CL8’s . I then installed two sticks of OCZ 1600 CL6 in the first two slots and two sticks of Corsair 1600 CL8’s in the other two for a total of 8GB. She booted up and ran the test.
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...GBmixedram.png
titan, if you can bring down the memory clocks lower.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan7171
i experienced this type of "corruption" during reboot with 1600MHz sideport memory clocks & 895MHz GPU. after a reset/reboot it just went away. probably insufficient voltages. but bring it down if you can.
very nice benches oldtimer! thanks for the kudos dave!
i'm signing off now on the gaming benches, chew*. gonna wait for that sp|ntel hsf to come around so i can play with DICE again. on second thought, i may spend the whole weekend twiddling with gpu-memory sizes to find that sweet spot you tipped us about! :D
I cant unless someone guides me into the bios I, I cant see anything except green lines on the screen looks like the Matrix has me.Quote:
Originally Posted by wuttz
Also why would the mobo not work even with an external GC in the pci-e slot??
Is there a way to shut down the IGP?
Clear cmos/pull battery and install vidcard then boot should change device priority.
ok will try now and report backQuote:
Originally Posted by chew*
no go, tried both cards cleared cmos pulled battery and installed card......nothing onscreen. also tried VGA of the IGP and it also showed same results on screen radom colors and green screen lines. IGP is still getting warm like its doing something.....just not the right thing.:)
Yep ok board is likely toast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan7171
have you tried reseating the nb heatsink? maybe its making poor contact?
yup even put some arctic silver on it, it doesnt move if I push down or pull up on it its making contact ok as far as I can see.Quote:
Originally Posted by crazydiamond
as5 is conductive, you sure you didnt get some of it on the resistors?
Yeah, as soon as I read that I thought..."Isn't AS5 conductive?"
It's fine as long as you don't use way too much of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
Thanks Dave. I've been following your tests and I'm looking forward to some more. This MSI doesn't like the 1/4 memory divider very well at least not when clocking up the HTT. What is the max HTT you can get it to boot (using the lowest memory divider and relaxed timings of course)?Quote:
Originally Posted by Daveburt714
Thanks wutts. Interesting game test results. Great work:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by wuttz
I hope to get started on some game benches today if all goes well.
I don't think that is it, since it was a problem before he made the change. My board did the same thing, it is off to RMA.Quote:
Originally Posted by wuttz
Did anyone see my post a few pages back with the screen shot that looked like Titan7171's? I think it is a Gigabyte issue. I even tried a newer bios with same issue. Now the board doesn't even POST. I never even got to touch settings.
Quote:
Originally Posted by wuttz
Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
Hah yea guys sorry it wasnt arctic silver 5 it was Arctic silver ceramique the white one. Even so, I put so little on its not enough to go anywhere. Even if I used as5, I know how to apply thermal paste:yepp:I squeezed the hs on to make sure of contact, checked the bottom of the hs, checked the core again then reinstalled the heatsink. I did this after the problems started thinking it was bad contact/heat issue on the hs though.
Even so when I apply the theramal paste is only on the center core and nothing is touching the resistors around it.
I tested the HT a little more today. I had to drop the memory divider to 1:2 and then the HT cranked on up a bit more.
At 4312MHz 14x308 the system ran wPrime 32m, SPI- 32M and Cinebench 10 repeatedly but it wouldn’t run any 3D tests as the GFX driver would stop working. I lowered the IGP memory speed from 667 to 533 and then the system would run the 3D tests at the above bios settings of 14x308. The 3D scores suffered though I assume from the lower IGP memory speed.
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...SPI-32-and.png
Thanks for the advice man! I get a little impatient sometimes... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by theoldtimer
Anyway, the problem doesn't seem to be with the board's HTRef clock.
I'm still trying to narrow it down, but it's either my RAM or IMC (still weak).
With everything else in a known good range it will post and boot with the HT @ 300 in bios.
I'd rather not run it that high, but at least it's one thing I can take out of the equation... :p:
Heres a SS:
(set from bios)
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3..._300HTBoot.png
I may double post, I'm going to run some SSD comparisons at different HTRef clocks... What can I say, I'm curious... ;)
Warned you all I might double post! :D
These test are not scientific, just a single HDTune run with different HTRef clocks.
I tried to keep CPU, RAM and IMC as close as possible.
This wasn't a tweaked run or anything, all services and sidebar running (real world kinda thing)...
Actually, I'm kind of surprised there wasn't a difference, nothing that couldn't be attributed to normal variances anyway...
HDTune @ 240 HTRef:
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...burt/HT240.png
HDTune @ 300 HTRef:
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...burt/HT300.png
Interesting SSD tests. It looks like your MB handles HT alright Dave. How well does your MB take changes in the bios? This MSI doesn’t like too many changes at one time because if I change say HT and NB bios settings it may not reboot. Where as if I just change the HT bios setting then reboot then reenter the bios and change the NB speed it reboots the next time just fine. :shrug:
I ran a few tests with the NB @3000+/- today but I used the 32-bit OS. I didn’t need that much vcore I just forgot to lower it when I changed the bios settings.
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...NB32-bitOS.png
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...NB-32-bitO.png
I haven't dug into it too far yet OT, but yeah, it seems to have post problems sometimes... I was blaming it on the high HTRef clocks, but now that you mention it, multiple changes may be the problem...Quote:
Originally Posted by theoldtimer
I think you have a better chip than me man, then again, I'm running on ambient water and your running on chilled... :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by theoldtimer
This is a fun chipset... :up:
It's different, but part of the adventure is finding out what stuff likes.
In the end, I'm pretty sure this board will give me better performance than the UD4P... :D
My CPU score went up 120 points and I got the same '06 score with a 20 Mhz lower GPU core clock. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Daveburt714
CPU PWM is good for 4+1 also. It's beefy and under stress 4000 @ 1.55v the voltage never budges. :clap:
Ok I ran AquaMark3 today and it test fine but I can’t get a screen capture in order to add all the CPUz system info to a full screen shot. AquaMark runs in full screen and when I do a printscreen the paste into paint all I get is a black image. I’ve also tried Alt+printscreen and control+printscreen with the same results in paint a black image.
Do I need to buy the full bench test in order to capture a screen shot?:shrug:
I finally just used a camera to take a picture of the screen which is posted below.
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...M/DSC01078.jpg
I ran some Stalker bench tests also plus I posted my best CrystalMark score so far on this MB. All these tests were on Windows 7 RC.
Stalker Static lighting
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...GXM/ST-CoP.png
Stalker Full dynamic lighting
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...T-CoPf-d-l.png
CrystalMark
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...878score-1.png
try renaming the direct3d.dll file to direct3d0ld.dll ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by theoldtimer
Beilieve after that it will use the correct dll file found in registry for your current device. That is if you didn't delete it to run vantage :p:
Thanks :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
That happens to me all the time and I can never figure out what I did to make it work. Old age I guess LOL
Did you try alt+tab? I never ran the bench before, but most apps will minimize or windows when usig alt+tab.Quote:
Originally Posted by theoldtimer
OK since you guys can use the "tips" it seems.....
Depending on driver/version of 3dmark your using......
06 add space -nosysteminfo to the end of the executable on desktop.
Vantage remove/rename direct3d.dll in winnt/system32
AM3 rename direct3d.dll to anything else so it will use the dll file in system32 that you correctly renamed after running vantage.
For reference -nosysteminfo is preety taboo once the benches get the correct systeminfo patch updates to identify the hardware properly and the drivers are "updated".
Charged, alt tab will not fix the issues he is having ;)
BTW this is just since the hd4290 is new......shouldn't be a problem in a month or so.....
Thanks Chew* for the info. I can't wait to get back to testing. I do have the Gigabyte running, well kinda. The onboard video is dead. As long as I keep it off in the bios and use the 5850 it kinda works. It isn't stable much, crashes randomly. While I am waiting on the MSI to return, I ordered this water block for the Egg. I have an Apogee GT and it doesn't like voltage. I was trying to find comparisons between the 2 but only found some vs the Apogee GTZ on Intell systems. It seem to do pretty good.
http://3800z24.info/Phenom/Enzotech-1.jpg
http://3800z24.info/Phenom/Enzotech-2.jpg
http://3800z24.info/Phenom/Enzotech-3.jpg
I have the saphire from Enzotech great performance for the price!Quote:
Originally Posted by charged3800z24
This block isn't gonna like voltage too man, it prefers water. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by charged3800z24
Thanks for the suggestion chew but I searched for a direct3d.dll without success. This being windows 7 rc may be part of the problem. I've been having trouble with both the 32 and 64-bit versions this time around and I'm not sure why. The 32 snd 64-bit versions refuses to run UT3 even patched plus AquaMark3 won't start on the 64-bit version. I've enjoyed testing Windows7 RC but I guess it's time to move on. I'm installing Vista 32-bit on the MSI right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
I did find a fix for the AquaMark3 problem though.
AquaMark3 creates a folder in the pictures library and saves the pictures as files with.tga file extension in that folder. Gimp will open these files as seen in the posted screen shot of the AquaMark3 test below.
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...821632-bit.png
:p: you know what i mean;) I am hoping it does better, but we'll see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
What is 3dmark/ Vantage doing again?Quote:
Originally Posted by theoldtimer
Anyone else had problems with the onboard LAN?
4th time I've lost connectivity is today. Every other PC is fine. It says the cable is disconnected.
Safe mode, I get connectivity and in windows it just doesn't work. I have to reinstall drivers like once a week. I was thinking about RMA...
Gigabyte is being a pain in my arse trying to get the RMA going lol. MSI just need the problem discription and the serial number :p:
Have a facebook page?Quote:
Originally Posted by charged3800z24
Add them and message them:
http://www.facebook.com/gigabyteusa#...SA/28864403694 :rolleyes:
Vantage wouldn’t start but the direcpll.dll fix was all that was needed. 3D06 needed the 1.2 patch, if I remember correctly 3d03 or 05 was also fixed by the direcpll.dll fix.Quote:
Originally Posted by charged3800z24
I did a fresh install of Vista 32 today and then installed all the 3d’s 01, 03, 05, 06 and Vantage then tested. Everyone started and ran first try. I’ve had trouble getting one or the other to run on the first try (usually 06) in the past but the direcpll.dll was usually all it would take to get it to move past the splash screen.
chew* i got my NB cooler!
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/v...i/IMG_0996.jpg
i prolly need to use a hammer on this.
i've been pushing on it since this afternoon. :rofl:
I disabled the IGP today to test some crossfire with the 4870x2’s. I also wanted to see if the 8GB of mixed ram would cause any trouble with the raid0 when I clocked the system up a little more. I did need to lower the memory divider to 1:2 in order for the system to boot into windows.
The 3D06 score was low for the test speed but it ran the test several times at this speed and didn’t crash or drop to the desktop.
I don't think the Vantage score is all that bad considering the installed hardware and OS.
MSI 890GXM-G65 MB -OS=Windows 7 RC 64-bit.
965-C3 @4.5GHz
8GB total memory 2x2GB Corsair 1600 CL9+ 2x2GB OCZ 1600 CL6
Test drive =4xOCZ 30GB Vortex SSD drives in Raid0 Partitioned as 20/100GB, boot drive=80GB-IDE
GFX=2x4870x2’s in quadfire @780/970
CPU cooling =chilled water (windshield washer fluid) fluid temp=-10/-15C
3D06
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=13588099
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...core64-bit.png
Vantage
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=2045814
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...ore2x4870x.png
A press at an automotive shop makes short work of it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by wuttz
or a socket the same size as the copper insert ans one that is way bigger. Place it in a vice (Small socket/intel P.O.S./big socket) and press it out that way. It takes almost no effort at all. All that hammering business will warp that copper slug all out of proportion.
That 06 result looks pretty depressing for the clocks, what CPU-NB were you running there?
I hope this won't be the norm for 890 boards. :(
Windows 7 isn't the best for 06 but i would have expected the score to be a thousand points higher though.
probably the 8gbs of ram slowing it down, looks to only be running 1300mhz with 8-8-8-24(30)Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
I think it's down to several reasons: Windows 7, 10.3 driver, low memclock+slack timings and lowish CPU-NB clock.
All that combined does not draw a right picture for 3d mark 06 performance of the board but i honestly doubt it will be better than a good 790FX board for 3D.
Drivers and yes 06 in win7 = big hit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
That post in question was more of a 64-bit OS test of the MB and chipset than anything else. I wanted to test Performance Test 7 with 8GB of ram but I don’t own four matching sticks of ram so I installed what I had on hand. Then I thought I would see if this combination would run every test in my list and it did, repeatedly. The 06 and Vantage tests were the only ones I posted. That combination of ram sticks didn’t want any timings below 8 and forget about the 1:4 divider as the system wouldn’t boot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
I think this MB could use some bios work because it doesn’t like the 1:4 divider and it’s sometimes a crap shoot as to whether the system will reboot after a simple setting change in the bios. I don’t know how much the pci-e lanes @x8 x8 (when two GFX cards are installed) effect the 3DMark06 score but Vantage seems ok. From my testing on the 4870x2’s with AMD and Intel MBs IMHO the 9.12 hot fix drivers are the best (at least for the 4870x2’s.) If I remember correctly the 9.12’s wouldn’t install when using the internal 4290 GFX chip so I’m on the 10.3’s (for that reason). I may remove the 10.3’s and try to install the 9.12 hot fix drivers again to see it they help the 06 score?
I did remove the 8GB of memory and install the 4GB Corsair GT’s with better timings but the other setting were mostly the same and still on the 64-bit OS.
The 06 score gained a bit the link is below.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=13592771
The tests below were done using different bios settings than during the 64-bit tests but the CPU clock speed was very close. As you can see there isn’t that much difference between the 64 and the 32-bit OS scores in 06 and Vantage.
Maybe I should put it this way based on the test settings and hardware used there wasn’t much difference between the scores of the 64/32-bit OS’s.
3D06 in Vista 32-bit 10.3 cats
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=13594100
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...26343score.jpg
Vantage in Vista 32-bit 10.3 cats
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=2048332
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...22208score.jpg
Thanks for that test old, that looks a lot better. Still not too great due to that 10.3 driver but a lot better. Thanks for putting my mind at ease, 890 board is not scraped from my upgrade list now. ;)
Is the 10.3 driver that bad?
For 06, yes.
Ok, I’ve been trying to find the reason for the low 3DMark06 when testing this MSI 890GXM-G65. I ran some single GFX card (4870x2) tests today. Eight total, four using PCI-e slot #1 and four using PCI-e slot #2. Three test were GFX tests and one full test per each PCI-e slot. Below is an excert from the manual. I read it as PCI-e slot #1 X16 when used alone, X8 when slot #2 is also used. Now PCI-e slot #2 is x8 when used as well as PCI-e slot #1 but what I don’t know is if slot #2 is x16 when used alone.
The whole point of this PCI-e test was to find out if maybe slot #2 was maxed @x8 and if so the when in crossfire with both slots running @x8 if this could be the cause for the low 3d06 score?.
[from the manual]
“Slots
2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 slots
when you install two expansion cards into both PCIE x16 slots, the PCI_E1 &
PCI_E2 lanes will run with x8 speed.
if you intend to install only one expansion card, please install it into PCI_E1 slot,
and the PCI_E1 lane will run with x16 speed
1 PCI Express x1 slot
1 PCI slot, supports 3.3V/ 5V PCI bus Interface”
When one card is installed CCC lists it as x16 when installed in slot #1, X8 when installed in slot #2 but when two cards are installed in crossfire CCC lists slot #1 as x8 and slot #2 x8. I included that CCC info in two of the screen shots below.
I have links for all of the GFX tests if you want to see them let me know. Anyway the average of the three GFX scores on PCI-e slot #1 was 12,497 and the average for the three GFX tests for slot #2 was 12,529. Maybe X8 is enough for a 4870X2? :shrug:
The CPU was @ 4551MHz one 4870X2 @778/980MHz for All tests, the full 3d06 run was the fourth test in each set. Slot #2 was tested first.
PCI-e slot #2 first GFX test with CCC in SS
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...st1x4870x2.jpg
PCI-e slot #1 first GFX test with CCC in SS
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...ot11x4870x.jpg
PCI-e slot #2 full 3DMark06 test
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=13601026
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...nalwithcpu.jpg
PCI-e slot #2 full 3DMark06 test
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=13601545
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...lot1finalw.jpg
3DMark06 PCI-e test quadfire 2x4870x2’s
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=13607415
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...nalwithcpu.jpg
Now that's what I'm talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by theoldtimer
Sure looks like slot 2 is hard wired X8 and that it doesn't matter one bit even when the CPU is OC'd. Now go do the same thing with the Heaven benchmark using DX 10 setting....:clap:
I want that cooler core alive...no disintegrations!Quote:
Originally Posted by wuttz
Sidebar question, I have a drive that won't recognize consistently but will upon reboot; looks like the drive isn't powering up fast enough and isn't getting recognized by BIOS. Is there a way to delay IDE detection? Gigabyte 790FXTA-UD5P.
Cant find anything in bios to delay it :shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by 64NOMIS
Maybe drive needs firmware update?Quote:
Originally Posted by 64NOMIS
will pressing pause on post not give time for drive to spin up?
or maybe setting some other bios options to slow down post?
Yah you may have quick boot enabled.....disable it.
i think 965 C3 is better than my 955 C3
it require 1.5++ Vcore to bench @ only 4.0-4.1 Ghz
I was going to say the same thing. Plus, what drive is it? Did you say it was an actual IDE?Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
I added a quadfire 3DMark06 test to the above set. I ran out of time yesterday so I didn’t get it in that set. The test is @ the same system clocks.
Thanks Simon, below is the Heaven Benchmark 2.0 pci-e tests x16, x8 and x8 + x8.Quote:
Originally Posted by 64NOMIS
Again as earlier I ran three tests of each PCI-e slot #1 x16 and #2 x8 using 1x4870x2 GFX card. I averaged the results of each three run set to find the test results for each PCI-e slot. The screen shots are of the last test or third test of each three test set. I also posted one screen shot (bottom of post)of a test ran in quadfire (2x4870x2’s).
The CPU @4551MHz 1x4870x2 @778/980MHz Vista 32-bit
PCI-e slot #1 average of three tests
FPS=103.6
Score=2610
Min FPS=52.6
Max FPS=209.4
PCI-e slot #2 average of three tests
FPS=102.7
Score=2586
Min FPS=51.4
Max FPS=207.9
PCI-e test slot #1 x16 third test SS with CCC
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...12612score.jpg
PCI-e test slot #2 x8 third test SS with CCC
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...22586score.jpg
PCI-e test both slot #1 and #2 both @ x8 quadfire 2x4870x2’s
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...9scoreDX10.jpg
very nice testing with the pci-e slots/bandwidth oldtimer!
so it looks like there is no "bottleneck" even with just using x8 mode.
Sig Worthy. Xtremely Helpful. :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by theoldtimer
Thanks wutts and Simon. I’ve been meaning to run that test for quite a while and frankly I was a little surprised by the results.
I’ve been testing Vantage the past few days trying to get the GFX scores up but I haven’t gained on it much. What I have noticed testing both 06 and Vantage is that this 890GX/850 chipset MB will complete both tests at a higher CPU clock than my 790FX MB’s. The CPU score is better in both tests but the memory doesn’t clock up as well as I’d like. Maybe chew has some insight as he’s tested this chipset?:shrug:
Anyway below is today’s Vantage test results. This is the best CPU score I have had using this CPU.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=2064688
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...22721score.jpg
Raising the bar to 4.6GHz for 3D huh? :up: I wouldn't worry too much on that memclock, 830 6-6-6 should be good enough for 3 marks, unless you're able to raise CPU-NB over 3.2GHz. Otherwise i would leave the mem like it is.
Congrats on the results Oldtimer you really pushing it.........the highest 3d Ive gotten was 4.5ghz in 06 and 4.4 in vantage. Is this one of the newer cpus?
One thing Im very impressed about is the power of the 5series cards your 2x4870x2 still slower in GPU result in vantage against my 5970. ATI did a great job with these cards.
Heres my vantage result http://service.futuremark.com/result...eResultType=19.
This particular result was done at 4.2ghz.
Thanks Zeus, the memory will just have to be what it is for now. No this chip doesn’t like NB much over 3GHz at least using my cooling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
Thanks Titan7171, this is the same and only 965-C3 I own or have tested, Old 666. I’d like to have some 5870’s or a couple of 5970’s but that isn’t going to happen for a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan7171
I didn’t want to double post but this is the last in this set so I figured I’d go ahead because I’m going to flash the 1.2 bios then install the 555 and see if it unlocks on this MSI as it’s a proven unlocker on other MB’s I’ve tested.
The CPU score was higher when I tested @4.58GHz but the overall score was lower. The SPi-1M and sPrime-32 scores remained about the same from 4.55 up to 4.62GHz so the higher speed didn’t help in those tests.:shrug:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=13637798
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...27131score.jpg
Major kudos. Good timing and OC's all around.
That's what i'm looking for myself, 27K. :)
I really envy your CPU power, 4625MHz is far beyond my reach.
Looks like this board is a tad slower than your 790FX board, you did 27K with 100MHz less CPU power on that one.
Btw, the cpu score does zero for the total score, i wouldn't worry too much about that. ;)
Thanks guys, I"m starting to learn just a little bit of what this MB likes but I doubt I'm smart enough to understand what it needs.
what does that cpu do for 24/7?? can you get 4.3ghz for 24/7?
Sorry Titan7171 but 24/7 over clocking holds very little interest for me. :scope::scope::scope:
titan, he has his cpu on the chiller i think - im sure he can chime in :p: but i thought it was on chiller, not regular water
you dont use that cpu for regular computing/ every day use? you just leave it at stock when you not testing?:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by theoldtimer
Yea I was thinking it was chilled water or something but I didnt notice the temps anywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by crazydiamond
That looks like a good one anyway:up:
Well Folks....
Looks like I've joined the dead GBT 890GX club... :shakes:
What really sux is I had just found a 24/7 stable clock I was happy with.
245 x 17 x 11 x 11 @ 1.52 Vcore and 1.325 NBcore (4.165/2695), decent Memory timings and Prime Blend stable for over an hour. :(
I woke up this morning, went to check my E-Mail and the machine Posted fine, but when it got to the Windows splash screen I had nothing but a moveable pointer.
I rebooted and it all went downhill from there "Nothing", fans spin, pump works, but not even a post screen....
I tried everything, reset CMOS, pulled Battery, unplugged while doing all the other things, pulled VC, pulled 1 stick of RAM and all non OS drives, and... Nothing!
Pretty sure it's dead!
I swapped my 790XT-UD4P back in tonight when I got home from work and everything is working fine.
Oh well, it was fun while it lasted... :p:
oh noes!! thats too bad i wonder whats goin on w/ them? kinda nervous now :p: mine hasnt had anything crazy like that but it does get random crashes w/ safe settings. i have been playing with it sooo much lately when im not doing homework, but its so random that i cant really tell whats causing them :shrug: oh well, at least its posting :p:
wow thats 3 out of 5 dead?
I can't say for sure guys...
But ever since my 1st Phenom board (MSI K9A2), I've been a little leary of boards with a 4+1 power section. This 890GX fits that mold...
I understand that quality components can make a difference and I had really hoped this board would prove that point.
I examined the board pretty closely after I pulled it and couldn't see anything burnt, but it does kind of reinforce my original observations.
Wrong or not, I personally won't ever buy a board with less than an 8+2 power section..... ;)
The GBT 890GX actually seemed to OC better than this 790XT-UD4P, but this 790 has been a frikken tank! :up:
Bring on the 890FX Premium boards! I'll buy one... :D
Sorry to hear that it broke Dave. I agree with the 890 MB’s OC’ing at least this one OC’s better than the 790FX’s I own. I hope you get a replacement that’s more durable.
@Titan7171, yeah I’m testing using chilled water. As to the 24/7 OC’ing deal, well this is the way I test. If the switch is on you can figure the system is running as fast as I can get it to run at that time. To test 24/7 stability I would have to slow it down and that just runs against my nature. :yawn2:
Dave, sorry to here. I have been trying my hardest to get the GB 890 board working again. I actually had to put in a PCI video card to get a display. I have to pull off some vodoo to get it to post and then sometimes it will boot. If I try to save any bios settings it requires the clr CMOS with no power cord. I can flash the bios from a USB stick odly enough, but all bios version are doing the same thing. The MSI will be here tomorrow and I will try to recover the bios. My only problem is, I don't have the original 1.0b bios that was on the board. It looks like oldtimer has 1.0, not sure why mine was diff.
OK Im still a bit confused:p:sorry really:shrug:...........can you run chilled water all day long as long as you have the system running? Is there a oc setting that you run thats less than the highest runs you do? Do you only test on that system or do you use it for playing games or surfing the net when you not running benches? This is what I mean by 24/7.Quote:
Originally Posted by theoldtimer
The reason I ask is because if you running 3d at 4.6ghz.......you can prolly run 4.4-4.5ghz for gaming and surfing:yepp:
I dont leave my system running 24/7 but as long as Im up the system is on and running at 4.1ghz (now that Im on 64bit windows) I would love to heve a cpu running at 4.4ghz for daily use.
daveburt: i have 4+1, still OK :). But...how much phase will have 890FXA-UD7 a 890FXA-UD5???its not just like "8+2"
Ok, I don’t mean to confuse. I only bench test this system and when the testing is over I turn it off. My chiller isn’t the best one going so the longer the computer runs the warmer the cooling fluid gets. In other words the freezer can’t keep up. When I start bench testing usually sometime in the morning the fluid temp is -15C +/-. When the fluid temp gets up to -5C I usually stop benching because of instability.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan7171
I haven’t taken the time to play a game in months; it appears the benching has become the game. :D
ahh ok thats what I wanted to understand its only a test rig, -5c is pretty cold still......I wish I could try something like that myself....the coolest I can get my system is 10-12c idle and I got those 3d runs at 4.5ghz.......That -17c lower you get makes a big difference:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by theoldtimer
I am in complete gaming withdrawl. Its a problem. After Thuban launch, then there is hope.Quote:
Originally Posted by theoldtimer