i made computer stable at 1.6v vcore 50Cidle 65 load.. What can i do to lower my temp so i can go higher than a 3.8 Ghz... Every thing is in auto, i just changed the vcore and the fsb... thanks
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i made computer stable at 1.6v vcore 50Cidle 65 load.. What can i do to lower my temp so i can go higher than a 3.8 Ghz... Every thing is in auto, i just changed the vcore and the fsb... thanks
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Pete,
I think from the pics, it looks like you are using the blue slots, try the white, they are much more stable for me with the Ballistix :)
505 bios is nice....the loadline calibration is working... hmm reading from CPUZ 1.41, the idle and the load time is unchanged!!! exactly the same, gonna try the dividers soon :)
anyway does anyone has any idea where are the voltage measurement points of this mobo??? mind to provide me some pictures of it plz? :P
some initial testing with the P5E on water(at last).
i've also found the new bios's released to be completely flawed and unstable. the latest for the p5w resets the fsb if you change it. on a good side it gave me most of the maximus settings.
i'm rock stable at 3.6 @29c with 1.42vcore.
my highest stable speed so far is 3.9.... i'm glad i didnt pay the extra 70 quid for the maximus now....:p:
besides its the same board..... yeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaa!
OK if you want to talk about another model board move it to another thread that is for that board. :shrug: just a idea
ok so its same pcb but dif bios and most likly some parts on the mobo are dif manufactures will some times make a generice board with multiple ways to layout some parts. just don't thinks the board will give a acuret view of the board this therad is about.
current bios and date for P5E 10/12/2007 08:18PM 1,256,237 P5E0203.zip
current bios and date for Maximus formula 10/17/2007 02:27PM 816,836 MF0505.zip
both date and size are not same,
yep from like 1.56 to 1.46
Just to interject something....Maximus is far sexier than the p5e :D :up:
Anyways 0505 rocks, went from having to pump 1.4875v into my quad, to 1.4250 (stressing now, 6hours in)... I didnt try 1.4v probably should have but heres current settings.
CPU - 1.425v
PLL - 1.6v
NB - 1.49v
FSB - 1.4v
CPU ref - .63x
NB ref - AUTO
Load Line Calibration - Enabled
OK guys something i came across, i found out 5:6 gave me a higher bandwidth with a lower frequency, 1021 is faster at 5:6 than 1066 with 4:5. lower latency as well.
it was enable... should i increase like my ppl volt or nb or sb volt??
i changed few things like that i read i a earlier post i dont know if this is good or not thanks:
Vcore = 1.55v
CPU PLL = 1.8v
NB = 1.730
DRAM = 2.2v
FSB T. = 1.6v
SB = 1.175
SB 1.5v = 1.850
not stable ....
Gotta test that new bios, If I could get my 9x445MHz FSB stable with Q6600 G0.
BTW, is there working Asus Probe II for Vista X64?
And does Vista have ICH9R Raid drivers or do I have to slipstream them or something?
You are using 64bit Vista?
Hmm, why that probe does not work with me..
Hehe, I just looked ito that DVDROM, And found Overclocking video there with Shamino doing some work, he puts insane amount of siliconpaste.
It is that Asus PC Probe II, but it does´nt work with my PC.
Says like this:
http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/bull...obe2_error.png
Any direct link for the last bios of this fantastic board?
0505 Maximus formula bios where's it?
Langley, you should have looked few pages back:
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...ula/MF0505.zip
http://www.pctuner.info/up/results/_...5_maximus1.JPG
Just a fast test... with 0401 bios i need to test all with the new bios...
Hi, well here you go, nothing special really, got my WC waiting to be installed and seeing what you guys get out of the board:
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : Manual
FSB Frequency : 266
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066
DRAM Command Rate : Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Auto
CPU Voltage : 1.125
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : Auto
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : Auto
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
Loadline Calibration : Auto
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Auto
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Auto
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Auto
Thanks...
ChrisC
I'm aiming for 4-4.2GHz too when my package arrives (shipped yesterday).
Maximus SE review over @El Reg HW: http://www.reghardware.com/2007/10/1..._asus_maximus/
They ran Marks and it spanked the DDR3 Gigabyte... :D
455FSB booting, thats it!
I've 30+ BB guns, 4 paintball, some random 9mm and a SA80 all live and very working here left to me by my recent late little brother. He use to keep the cats away. Was too cold to rain and really clear skys!
Yeah yeah right, i was using the blue, i will give white ago. You think it's a bit like the P5k were black was faster and better?
With new bios 0505 the Vdroop value is with Q6600G0
Vcore low set:
Vcore set in bios 1,2500Volt
Real Vcore in idle 1,238Volt
Value Vdroop positive +0,014Volt
Phase full load 1,252Volt
Vcore high set:
Vcore set in bios 1,500Volt
Real Vcore in idle 1,492Volt
Value Vdroop positive +0,016Volt
Phase full load 1,508Volt
this is alternative download for bios
http://www.pctuner.net/forum/showpos...2&postcount=12
anyone have issues with the onboard power button, mine doesnt seem to be working.
YVW :cool:
Here's another chip for you guys: the other day a buddy of mine just tested the QX9650 with Maximus and he was quite pissed by the fact that Asus, despite having QX9650 on hand for months now, haven't bothered updating the BIOS: it showed up as a 12GHz+ CPU, supplied wrong voltage etc... :shocked:
Tsk, tsk, tsk. Asus, pull yourself together. Quickly, it's almost November.
...though I must add that after he set up everything manually (voltage, FSB, divider etc) it nicely ran at 4GHz without any hitch, at 1.42V, right out of the box (no water, LN or anything exotic.) BTW FSB1600 wasn't stable at all.
Any good result with 4x1GB on this board?
Will ditch my GA-X38-DQ6 that does not OC with the same settings twice and canīt OC my OCZ PC9200 over 1067MHz stable or sometimes not even stock settings on everything no matter what BIOS used, seems that board is released way to early or with the crapy chip from first batch that was recalled.
2x1GB or 2x2GB is not an option for me since 2x2 are way to expensive for good kit (Mushkin PC8500).
E.R, Not sure what you mean by it won't overclock no matter what bios is used?
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...ntitled-14.jpg
Sounds like your RAM ain't performing very well. You might want to memtest86 each stick individually, or change RAM manufactures!
Thats 2x1GB you got, i have 4x1GB and the Memory is just fine, tested them on my old Abit IN9 and they ran just fine in 600 when used 4x1GB, but that board don´t OC quad well.
Mening sometimes on reboot it just reboots 4-5 times and need to Clear CMOS to get it up and running again that have hapends even on 2,4GHz on CPU and 533 on mem and with both 1,8V and 2,3V on them witch is stock settings and pass on IN9. Tried all BIOS from F3 to F5H and all is bad on one way.
Yicks!! Good thing I'm running a dual core then!!
Good Luck!
Hi, I've just started to get "Abnormal program termination" when running probe, found that the last post here http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us worked for me...
ChrisC
I would like to get me one of those boards...
Hi guys Im having some strange things with this mobo. I got it few days ago and first thing i noticed is that the ASUS POSTER doesnt work. I dont know how to configure it to work. The next thing I was wondering if it is normal when you complitly turn off the PC and start it again it runs for a few seconds then it shuts down by itself and goes to boot again. Is it normal :confused: ???
boot issue is normal...if you disconnect mains poer, the next time it starts, it starts with default chipset strap, and then must power off and restart in order to start with the strap selected in BIOS.
You can change settings for the LCD poster within the BIOS.
ON-board will hold settings, yes, but this does not prevent the chipset from starting with the default 266mhz strap. Because of the way the chipset is initialized, it is only possible to adjust the strap when the chipset is not on...it must "start" with those settings. If you are having issues with straps and "double starts" while mains power is connected, maybe you should look elsewhere for an issue...my board boots fine after initial strap change. Board will ALWAYS boot on default strap after mains disconnect, or PSU trun off, as some cpu's, etc, may not boot under other conditions...Safety feature to ensure a proper boot is all, really.
LCD Poster: no app that I am aware of...it simply tells you what is happening when the board boots, and then changes to a clock. the display doesn't really tell you much either....it says what the board does, kinda, but the info provided is jsut "labels", and not what is actually reported by a true POST reader.
Boy's, if we are using an active external water cooling, we do not install the small clear optional fan correct?
Pete's not the only one to have issues Revolutionx's problem Ouch
Nah, I don't think you are...like I said, it's kinda useless anyway, other than finding a use for old screens. But maybe your board has issues...I dunno...mine worked right from the first time I powered up the board.
Well, yes, you should use the fan. it will blow air through the silver part down onto the mosfet cooler...and they got those coolers for a reason, IMHO.
Nevermind that the whoel reason for the fan was for set-ups as you mention...it says to ONLY use in such a situation.
Thanks for the reply.
The manual has: "Install the optional fan only if you are using a passive cooler or a water cooler. Installing the optional fan with an active CPU cooler will interfere with the airflow and destabilize the system".
Due to me not having a passive water cooler, and having an active water cooler, I didn't want to destabilize the system.
I think this could have been worded better?
I will install the fan now!! :)
Yeah saw that...man I feel for him. Mine came off very hard, had to pry on both sides at the same time and even then I wasnt sure if it was gonna give or not
Im thinking a little freezer action may provide some cheap insurance here.
Any downside to this if one uses good time managment doing so?
so if we are water cooling we shouldnt put any fan blowing toward the processor?
Naw think it's stronger than that:confused:Quote:
What is ASUS using as TIM? Loctite?
pretty darn good, ChaosMinionX!
These settings are 24/7 rock solid. 12hour SmallFFT, 12hour LargeFFT - then ran ram through Memtest86+ for 8hrs and its running a 24 hour Blend @priority 9 right now.
BIOS 0505
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency :450
FSB Strap to North Bridge :AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 120
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-900
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 10
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 25
Write Recovery Time : 3
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 7
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLED
Ai Clock Twister : STRONG
Transaction Booster : ENABLED (2)
CPU Voltage : 1.4250v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.6v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49v
DRAM Voltage : 2.18v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.4v
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : .63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : ENABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Also have 500x7 DDR2 1000/1250 4-4-4-10/5-5-5-15 working as well and stable.
500x7 takes 1.45v and a slight increase on the NB/FSB voltages and ram takes 2.28v for DDR2 1250 stable at 5-5-5-15 with some pretty good subtimings. I got some screenies goin up soon as blend finishes for 450x8.
Done nothing with 400x9 with DDR2 800 or 1000 but I would imagine its all the same, I like higher FSB's more :)
A little test :)
Heres the difference between tweaked subtimings and AUTO
Untweaked (AUTO) and Transaction Booster to AUTO
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...itled-1-20.jpg
Tweaked with Transaction Booster to (2)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...itled-12-1.jpg
The subtimings I have been using 7-3-5-4-6-4-6 have been great, real stable as well according to blend and memtest. I will be trying to lower the values some more in the coming days.
-Cheers
Just an interesting find as I was testing the board.... Memtest 86+ Test #7 is a great way to load/check subtimings and ram timings on this board. Its the only test I have had error for Maximus, and it does it when the timings are too tight, or not enough voltage.
Try it out, lemme know if anyone else sees this. :up:
Just updated on asus downloads page
Version 0505 2007/10/17 update
Description Maximus Formula BIOS 0505
1. Add new CPU uCode to support new processors
2. Revise wording used in BIOS
3. Adjust NB Voltage max to 1.85V
4. Enhance DDRII-1200 memory compatibility
5. Finetune Loadline Calibration control code
6. Add LCD Poster Mode item
File Size 816.84 (KBytes)
direct link to file
http link to MF0505.zip
or
ftp link to MF0505.zip
is voltage damper active by default on the in BIOS??? if yes how do i shut it down???
Voltage Damper = "Load Line Calibration"
Quick question....
Anyone using Vista experiencing a long load time from the Windows Vista bootup animation bar, to the the little center vista icon to desktop? from the bootup bar to the center icon flash of vista I get a long black screen?
Thanks in advance.
default its set as auto, u have 2 more options which is Enable and Disable :)
I work as the Deputy of Counter Intelligence in geeksquad and we have that issue on almost every hp that has cyberlink serviecs on in msconfig don't know if you have that service but if you do disable all cyberlink services program is powerdvd most of the time.
Its a bare Vista install I always trash installs with hardware swaps :)
Will see what else I got kickin around in there.....anyone got problems with enabled onboard audio+LAN And this sort of issue?
EDIT: Maximus on 0505 at same settings compared to my P5K Premium is showing some impressive performance gains from an everest standpoint at least :)
so should i enable it?? or not? some one told me if disable it i will get better temps...
The better temps come from the actual applied voltage being lower....
In theory say you set 1.5v after windows load and load on processor it goes to 1.4v yes its going to be cooler, but no its not giving the right voltage.
With it on theoretically 1.5v should stay 1.5v or as near to that as possible.
So keep loadline enabled, whoever told you to disable it is mistaken since you dont want differences(at least that much) from BIOS set voltage to actual windows and usage load voltage.
You dont have my ram, or my chip :)
That 1066 stuff you are using probably cant use those subtimings, might come close but nothing at those voltages. And I have a beast of a G0 quad so only use my settings as a reference not verbatim unless you have similar equipment.
On that note heres the fruits of my labor, the following stuff is 24/7 stable.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...x9ddr29003.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...8ddr2900-1.jpg
Everest test was run 2x just for consistency sake.
And heres quick comparison (sans the Maximus's subtiming control, and ability to use higher transaction booster settings. P5K premium wouldnt run Transaction well at all, so I used DRAM Static Read)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...0x8ddr2900.jpg
You may draw your own conclusions :)
Considerably better read/write and 10ns difference. I would say Maximus is clear winner :)
EDIT: Oh yeah heres the 1M calc :)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...nX/Capture.jpg
X38 - 14.359s
P35 - 14.835s
Id say thats a nice improvement.
well i atually change the ram values to :
BIOS 0505
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency :450
FSB Strap to North Bridge :AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 120
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-900
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLED
Ai Clock Twister : STRONG
Transaction Booster : ENABLED (2)
CPU Voltage : 1.5v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.6v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49v
DRAM Voltage : 2.18v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.4v
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : .63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : ENABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
this is how my bios looks
is actually my ram...when ever i run the prime small test. it will run perfect. so it is my ram.... what can i do or what should i do?
should i get new memory?? like the same but a new pack??
Nope... it probably wont change. The difference between your memory, and my memory is about 250$ difference per 2GB kit, and alot more binning as well it was binned for CAS3 DDR2 800.
Just relax some of the settings in your bios, and tweak some voltages and keep trying it. Every rig is going to act differently.
is there any software better than core temp to measure cpu temps??
my mem should be better than your right?
No, at date of purchase my ram was about $900, the Dominator 8500's were only about $500-600 for 4GB kit and are like 2nd from bottom of the dominator lineup.
IMO 9136 and 6400C3 (and I would say my 6400C3's can hold their own against 8888's at 2.4v considering I run 1000 4-4-4-12 at 2.18v) are about on the same playing field, where 8888 and 10000 are high performance.
The binning on 6400C3DFs is alot higher than the 8500s, its considered more of a "performance" part than the 8500s are since my ram will do right up to DDR2 1100 4-4-4-12. 8500s are CAS 5 @ 1066, and my subtimings can be alot tighter given they are higher binned chips...then again in the semiconductor world its all really random from each piece even if it is meticulously binned for performance.
EDIT: Also note, they have discontinued Micron IC's on the 8500 lineup... not sure of the production cutoff date, but the newest kits will not be micron based.
Source:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/...d.php?t=158651
If you purchased those recently Miguel, check your sticker on the side of your ram...you might not have Micron if they are brand spankin new.
cant make my memory stable :(
You should be perfectly fine mate :)
@Miguel - did you set Transaction booster to 1? or even off you might not be able to run it at all.
Also try this
BIOS 0505
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency :450
FSB Strap to North Bridge :AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-900
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 30-35 (should work)
Write Recovery Time : 4
Read to Precharge Time : 4
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLED
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Transaction Booster : AUTO
CPU Voltage : 1.5v (try going lower, run Prime95 on SmallFFT Priority 9 with round off checking to find lowest Vcore setting)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.6v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51v
DRAM Voltage : 2.20v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.4v
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : .63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : ENABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
any questions about that feel free to ask Miguel.
After you find lowest Vcore for your CPU using SmallFFTs from Prime95---- Go ahead and mess around with RAM settings and run Memtest 86+ 1.7 and let it loop 2-3 times and see if it comes up with any red.. if not tweak a little more see if you get any and repeat till you get red. Then relax and try 1 more loop and if your happy with your current timings and voltages then go for a 12-24hr Prime95 Blend with roundoff checking.
the 8500C5D's if they are still micron, if not its a toss up between the 2 kits.
My ram is the 6400C3DF found here.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...5&Tpk=6400c3df
and yours will be alot better than what i have right now? BTW my is the new version 2.2..
Mmmh I think my CPU isn't really good because I can't pass 460Mhz for the FSB, and I had the same problem with same CPU on the Blitz Formula ...
Is it possible for an E6850 ES to be at maximum at only 460Mhz FSB ?